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| [01:57:03] | sphery: | jm|laptop: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/535888#535888 |
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| [10:01:31] | exoon: | good morning. I still trying to setup a backend, but I cant start the process of channel searching. The capture card is setup (and works with other apps). |
| [10:02:18] | exoon: | I try to read in a channels.conf but I am not sure about the format. I used w_scan and scan, both are not working. |
| [10:03:18] | exoon: | channels.conf from scan has entries like this: ASTRA SDT:12551:v:0:22000:0:0:12 |
| [10:03:53] | exoon: | w_scan: tagesschau24;ARD:10744:hC56:S19.2E:22000:101:102:0:0:28721:0:0:0 |
| [10:08:31] | exoon: | the w_scan file "fails to parse %1" |
| [10:08:49] | exoon: | the scan file: finds no channels |
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| [11:25:32] | exoon: | It now scans through the list, but every channel is timed out. ... I give it time to finsh, but looks strange. |
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| [11:57:11] | larrikin_: | can someone explain to me the concept of a PID filter as is associated with USB DVB decoder? On the related subject of support for the decoding of channels that are using an H.264 stream, this is still inside an MPEG2-style container? Is there any way to be confident that a given USB DVB decoder can handle these H.264 channels as well as the traditional MPEG2? |
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| [12:37:44] | exoon: | I scan through channels.conf. I get about 80% strength and signal/noise about 80%. Timeout is disabled – For every channel I get .... Timedout, no signal. |
| [12:38:12] | exoon: | I am not sure if my lnb settings are correct. |
| [12:40:19] | exoon: | I use Single(Europe) Standard(Voltage) |
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| [14:14:00] | dekarl-work: | exoon: you likely want LNB type "Universal (Europe)" |
| [14:14:56] | dekarl-work: | larrikin_: MPEG-2 refers to many standards. among others a Transport Mechanism for multiple audio/video services in one transmission channel, but also an audio and a video codec. |
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| [14:15:49] | dekarl-work: | the raw MPEG-2 Transport Stream will likely stay with us for some time. But the embedded Video streams are often encoded in the advanced video codec from MPEG-4, aka H.264 |
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| [14:22:59] | paulgardiner: | dekarl-work: Hi. Did you see I replied to your comments concerning ticket 11531? |
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| [14:25:13] | dekarl-work: | larrikin_: so your hardware needs to support the transmission scheme (DVB-C/C2/S/S2/T/T2) as the switch of the physical transmission often is used to also switch to newer codecs. but thats only coincidence |
| [14:25:22] | dekarl-work: | #11531 |
| [14:25:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11531 ** | |
| [14:26:13] | dekarl-work: | paulgardiner: yes, I already started a reply to ask if it makes sense to avoid the float to int conversion per frame |
| [14:26:52] | paulgardiner: | Just in the patch, or in the cutter in general? |
| [14:27:16] | dekarl-work: | does it make sense to generally change audioFramesToCut to float, to avoid the rounding errors adding up |
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| [14:28:34] | ** paulgardiner takes a look ** | |
| [14:31:02] | dekarl-work: | also your comment (comment:2) appear to describe the code that I posted (comment:1), but you say that your code is correct. Very confusing :) |
| [14:31:10] | exoon: | dekarl, mythTV is scanning over channels.conf, but find nothing: http://i.imgur.com/bIMe7o5.png |
| [14:31:30] | dekarl-work: | paulgardiner: but I totally agree on "the logic is difficult" ;) |
| [14:34:14] | exoon: | if I look to femon I see 0% signal, after I break the scan, it shows 94% as long as I start scanning again. |
| [14:35:21] | dekarl-work: | exoon: so scanning works outside of mythtv? Can you run a tuned scan where you manually enter all data of one transport? |
| [14:36:24] | dekarl-work: | exoon: do you have some kind of switch between the card and the lnb? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . iSEqC_Switch |
| [14:36:53] | exoon: | dekarl-work, I tryed it, but I guess I was not able to figure out what I should type in: what must I type in for this channel: ZDF:11953:h:0:27500:110:120:28006 |
| [14:36:55] | paulgardiner: | dekarl-work: my comment 2 wasn't supposed to describe the code that you posted. |
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| [14:38:22] | exoon: | frequency: 11953? horizontal? Symbolrate 23500000? dvb-s2? |
| [14:38:53] | paulgardiner: | dekarl-work: at the end I say "decreas both audioFramesToCut and videoFramesToCut", which is what my patch does in the case in question. |
| [14:39:24] | dekarl-work: | exoon: frequency 11953000000 Hz |
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| [14:43:09] | exoon: | deathader, 11953 -> failed to find any channels, 11953000000 -> error parsing parameters |
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| [14:46:29] | exoon: | sorry, I mean dekarl-work |
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| [14:51:08] | dekarl-work: | exoon: I have never seen a DVB-S setup, so I'm just guessing from the documentation :/ |
| [14:51:50] | paulgardiner: | dekarl-work: I see what you mean about making audioFramesToCut a float. That may possibly be an improvement. But I'd rather leave it as a separate issue, since the patch fixes a definite bug and doesn't introduce further conversions of audioFramePerVideoFrame |
| [14:52:35] | dekarl-work: | paulgardiner: either way. If you wrote it and got an improvement which I don't understand I'll side with you knowing your code better then me :D |
| [14:53:15] | paulgardiner: | :-) |
| [14:54:02] | dekarl-work: | btw, the same method would work with H.264 encodec videos, we "just" need to copy the MPEG-2 logic over, right? |
| [14:54:17] | exoon: | deathader, 2013-05–16 16:53:40.967737 E DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Tune(): Setting Frontend tuning parameters failed. |
| [14:54:43] | dekarl-work: | exoon: hmm, there should be a line that says which parameter it is that fails :( |
| [14:55:09] | dekarl-work: | usually its autodetection of a parameter not being implemented in hardware and not in the driver either |
| [14:55:13] | exoon: | eno: Das Argument ist ungültig (22) |
| [14:56:03] | dekarl-work: | paulgardiner: so, how do we move on? This fix has been tested and just needs to be pushed to master and fixes/0.26? |
| [14:56:13] | exoon: | 2013-05–16 16:56:04.406188 W DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Your frequency setting (2301000) is out of range. (min/max:950000/2150000) |
| [14:56:22] | paulgardiner: | dekarl-work: if you would, thanks. |
| [14:57:01] | exoon: | while reading channels.conf always the frequency parameter is out of range |
| [14:57:03] | dekarl-work: | exoon: awww, thats a false positive. it checks the real frequency against the intermediate frequency range... It does the right thing, though |
| [14:57:19] | dekarl-work: | exoon: reading channels.conf is known broken |
| [14:59:04] | paulgardiner: | I also have #11512, where I've updated mythweb to pick up values from the default recording template. I don't seem to have atracted anyone's attention to it so far. Is there anyone in particular that usually handles mythweb patches? |
| [14:59:04] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11512 ** | |
| [14:59:50] | dekarl-work: | I think mythweb is without maintainer atm |
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| [15:01:09] | dekarl-work: | paulgardiner: how to the templates work? Is everything copied to the rule, or does a rule derive updates values from a template if one changes it? |
| [15:02:29] | dekarl-work: | otoh, its likely an improvement over what we have now... might as well push it |
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| [15:04:24] | dekarl-work: | exoon: ohh, wait a second... the message was about 2301000>2150000. have you changed the lnb type already? |
| [15:05:03] | paulgardiner: | My thoughts exactly. We should probably have a drop down list allowing a template to be chosen (if there are others besides the Default), but I thought for now just copying across the settings from the default would be better than nothing. |
| [15:07:11] | paulgardiner: | Not sure of the answer to your question. I hadn't considered what is supposed to happen if you change a template that is in use. I'd imagine only subsequent uses would be altered. |
| [15:10:49] | exoon: | dekarl-work, lnb is set to universal(europe) |
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| [15:14:22] | estefan: | is it possible to run mythtv-setup native on the client, connecting to the server? without X-forward? |
| [15:15:03] | estefan: | my (to be) backend is headless, and mythtv-setup via X-forwarding segfaults |
| [15:16:30] | dekarl-work: | estefan: i don't think so |
| [15:17:09] | dekarl-work: | exoon: crazy idea, can you try a different (lower) frequency? |
| [15:17:39] | exoon: | deathader, I tryed many frequencies, no sucess |
| [15:18:31] | dekarl-work: | ahh, then its the other parameters, likely you need to look them up at lyngsat (or similar) and manually specify them for on transport |
| [15:18:33] | paulgardiner: | estefan: vnc? |
| [15:20:13] | estefan: | paulgardiner: ah, vnc might work. i'll try. thanks |
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| [15:22:11] | paulgardiner: | estefan: That's what I do... although I'm always careful to start the vncserver after su'ing to the same user as runs mythbackend. Not sure if that's important. |
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| [15:24:32] | exoon: | dekarl, I am not sure about inversion and roll-off |
| [15:24:47] | dekarl-work: | estefan: running mythtv-setup as the same user that runs mythbackend would be good |
| [15:24:48] | exoon: | sorry I mean -dekarl-work |
| [15:26:08] | exoon: | deathader, I found one channel :) |
| [15:26:27] | dekarl-work: | exoon: I'd try inversion off before on. |
| [15:26:31] | exoon: | with manual data from http://www.lyngsat.com |
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| [15:26:38] | exoon: | this is a step forward |
| [15:26:52] | dekarl-work: | exoon: cool, now mythtv should have learned all other transponders from that one! |
| [15:27:43] | estefan: | dekarl-work: didn't run mythtv-setup as same user. just as user in the right group |
| [15:27:53] | exoon: | dekarl-work, cool ... its doing something |
| [15:28:11] | exoon: | I will wait till its finished .... thx so far. |
| [15:28:58] | dekarl-work: | estefan: may lead to issues with xmltv configuration files and channel icons... if you didn't touch that area everything should be ok. |
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| [16:10:53] | estefan: | only recording DVB-T MPG2 SD. no recoding |
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| [17:08:57] | exoon: | what hd ringbuffer size do I need? |
| [17:10:52] | exoon: | How many jobs? |
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| [17:15:47] | tgm4883: | ringbuffer? |
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| [17:21:07] | exoon: | tgm4883, yes in the backend general settings |
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| [17:23:33] | estefan: | mythtv-setup also segfaults on vnc. any idea what is wrong? |
| [17:23:35] | estefan: | http://pastebin.com/5gMYR7br |
| [17:23:37] | estefan: | MIPS cpu, ~60MB free RAM on segfault |
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| [17:27:20] | lautriv: | estefan, segfault is independent of free ram, there is something truncated and tries to cach the wrong area. that's no OOM |
| [17:31:24] | estefan: | using another Theme leads to a glibc error. free of invalid pointer 0x32... the problem is, the box is too weak to compile mythtv. so I can't compile a debug build |
| [17:34:00] | lautriv: | estefan, rebuild would not help, where did you get it from ? |
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| [17:35:32] | estefan: | the box is running debian lenny, i got mythtv from the debian-multimedia rep for squeeze |
| [17:35:49] | estefan: | ... there are no deb build in this repo |
| [17:36:02] | estefan: | http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-multimedia/ squeeze main |
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| [17:36:38] | lautriv: | estefan, if it's build against squeeze, you should dist-upgrade to squeeze. |
| [17:41:06] | estefan: | I am stuck to a closed source kernel 2.6.21. I don't know if dist upgrade would be possible this way. |
| [17:42:01] | lautriv: | that's unfortunate but kernel is never closed source (GPL) are external modules involved ? |
| [17:54:07] | estefan: | lautriv: There seem to be problems with i2c wich is needed for the tuner afaik. |
| [17:56:57] | lautriv: | estefan, i guess it is sulved in a somewhat recent kernel however you have 2 choices : rebuild myth for old system or upgrade the system. if you have too less resources, you may consider a crosss-compile. |
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| [18:04:36] | estefan: | lautriv: well. I guess I'll try to cross-compile. Somebody is working on running the 3.1 linux kernel on the box though. |
| [18:05:25] | lautriv: | estefan, ever had a look if there is some /proc/config.gz ? |
| [18:07:13] | estefan: | lautriv: /proc/config.gz does not exist |
| [18:09:52] | lautriv: | that's bad and also no .config somewhere else ? |
| [18:13:57] | estefan: | find found only a mythtv file called .config ... but the root file system is custom build by some hacker |
| [18:16:20] | lautriv: | are you able to attach some extra space via SD or the like ? |
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| [18:59:26] | estefan: | lautriv: the box has sata and usb available. HDD space is not the problem. I'm running out of RAM memory when compiling mythtv |
| [19:02:30] | lautriv: | estefan, setup some swap, take a few days do not use -j90 ;) |
| [19:02:57] | lautriv: | assumed swap is possible with this kernel ... |
| [19:03:47] | estefan: | aaww. no. swap is disabled :( |
| [19:06:13] | lautriv: | ok, then b.) cross-compile ............ or install a distro-kernel just for compilation. |
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| [19:31:10] | larrikin_: | dekarl: noted, thanks.. what I'm trying to get a handle on is if its possible that a device can decode MPEG2 inside an MPEG2 container, but not H.264 inside MPEG2 or if these devices don't care about the content of the bitstream and are just a demux.. and if it is therefore 'safe' to buy something which may not be explicit about H.264 |
| [19:33:06] | larrikin_: | I'm keen for any recommendations on cheap USB DVB-T hardware, still available to buy.. |
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| [23:08:30] | mihanson: | What's the best way to accomplish custom keybindings for several different groups of users? All users are on identical hardware. I was thinking that creating custom frontend ID's with the keybindings defined the way I want and then in the frontend settings of each box enter the frontend ID of the "profile" I want that user to have. |
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| [23:16:49] | dekarl: | larrikin: the devices don't care whats inside. but depending on your location you might need DVB-T2 to get the HD/H.264 streams (e.g. UK has it like that) |
| [23:19:32] | wagnerrp: | mihanson: the only way to select the profile is to define it in the config.xml |
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| [23:31:16] | skd5aner: | ok, I'm trying to schedule a one time recording for a show via mythweb... |
| [23:31:40] | skd5aner: | however, everytime I click save, the rule doesn't seem to take effect |
| [23:32:32] | skd5aner: | ah, appears to be a priority issue |
| [23:36:53] | mihanson: | wagnerrp: thx. Still trying to wrap my head around it. |
| [23:43:26] | wagnerrp: | when mythfrontend starts, it reads '~/.mythtv/config.xml', which tells it where the database is, and optionally what profile to use |
| [23:43:33] | wagnerrp: | edit that file to edit the profile |
| [23:44:28] | mihanson: | wagnerrp: That's the "LocalHostName" field? |
| [23:44:50] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [23:44:54] | mihanson: | thank you |
| [23:45:32] | mihanson: | can the same be accomplished on first run of mythfrontend by ticking the custom frontend id and entering the name there? |
| [23:47:53] | wagnerrp: | i assume so |
| [23:51:38] | mihanson: | thank you again |
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