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| [00:14:51] | sphery: | jasonsmr: if this is a brand new install with an empty database (TV database included), your best bet is to start the whole database over |
| [00:15:29] | sphery: | if you have other data (recordings, etc.) you want to keep, you can try getting rid of the mythgame schema |
| [00:15:46] | sphery: | but in the future, don't kill mythbackend or mythfrontend when it's doing database upgrades/creation--or it will cause this problem |
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| [00:30:06] | Mode for #mythtv-users by pratchett.freenode.net : +v wagnerrp | |
| [00:31:08] | Jester86: | hey guys. Anyone experience a PVR 150 not working properly after upgrading to 0.25? |
| [00:31:33] | Jester86: | when it first starts recording it works fine but if I change the channel the video gets all messed up |
| [00:31:59] | jasonsmr: | it took a few tries to remove and flush tha database but mythgame plugin finaly ran, ill have to see the damage to the main database |
| [00:32:03] | jasonsmr: | thanks |
| [00:32:14] | jasonsmr: | btw it was a new database |
| [00:33:12] | Jester86: | Hey sorry not sure if anyone saw my message or not – I just identified with freenode |
| [00:34:03] | Jester86: | I upgraded my system to 0.25 and now my PVR150 is no longer working properly |
| [00:34:36] | Jester86: | When it first starts recording the video from the PVR150 is fine, but when you change the channel the picture gets all messed up |
| [00:35:27] | Jester86: | I have about 3 screens/ scaled down to 1/3–1/2 the normal size. The screens overlap one another then below there is just random flashing portions of the normal full sized screen. |
| [00:39:13] | jasonsmr: | okey now Im getting database errors |
| [00:39:22] | jasonsmr: | how do I reconfigure the database? |
| [00:39:46] | jasonsmr: | there is an error stopping the mythbackend from starting |
| [00:40:09] | jasonsmr: | also is it wierd that mythgame starts even if the mythbackend is not running? |
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| [00:57:01] | wagnerrp: | mythgame runs as a plugin in mythfrontend |
| [00:57:10] | wagnerrp: | and mythfrontend will refuse to run if you do not have a backend to connect to |
| [00:57:30] | wagnerrp: | it won't close outright, but it will repeatedly pop up warnings |
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| [01:11:20] | sphery: | jasonsmr: if it was a brand new database, just do: http://pastebin.com/QW5Ga5q6 |
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| [01:11:53] | sphery: | jasonsmr: You may have to run it as mysql root user. Then start mythtv-setup (to create the TV schema), then mythbackend, then mythfrontend (to create all plugin schemas) |
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| [01:25:40] | Gumby`: | hi all. I'm starting mythbackend with --logpath /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log however nothing gets written to the log. Do I have to specify anything else to log to file? |
| [01:25:58] | wagnerrp: | because you're giving it a filename |
| [01:26:07] | wagnerrp: | you need to give it a directory |
| [01:26:13] | Gumby`: | ah, ok |
| [01:27:30] | Gumby`: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [01:28:35] | Gumby`: | is this still incorrect then.. "/usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --logpath /var/log/mythtv/ --user mythtv -v eit" |
| [01:29:07] | wagnerrp: | that looks fine, except i don't understand why people use '--user' |
| [01:29:28] | Gumby`: | "shrug" I guess you are right, its not really useful here |
| [01:29:31] | ** wagnerrp believes it's the purpose of any good init system to change user accounts for the application ** | |
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| [01:37:52] | mzb: | I'm looking for a way to do .. err... perhaps a video pop-up for my security cams if/when they're triggered |
| [01:38:05] | mzb: | the video widget doesn't look anything like what I need |
| [01:38:18] | mzb: | is there a nice way of doing this both in the menu and during playback? |
| [01:41:14] | mzb: | a combination of solutions could be possible ... eg: OSD or text notification while in the menu/mythwelcome, and the pip during playback |
| [01:41:19] | mzb: | any suggestions? |
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| [01:43:24] | mzb: | a nasty hack might be to force the Samsung TV itself into playing DLNA (?), but consider the WAF-- for Doctor Who being interrupted by the neighbour's cat ;) |
| [01:44:33] | wagnerrp: | very few devices support DLNA RUI |
| [01:45:49] | mzb: | I meant that I can remotely force the TV to play a DLNA source instead of the HDMI input ... but this would ruin viewing |
| [01:46:11] | mzb: | ideal solution is to (remotely?) get mythtv to do a PIP |
| [01:48:41] | mzb: | I don't need mythtv to do any selection as that can be handled remotely .. it's simply displaying a PIP on demand |
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| [01:50:56] | mzb: | I guess I could bind CREATEPIPVIEW to some weird key (that wouldn't confuse the frontend if playback wasn't in progress) |
| [01:51:18] | wagnerrp: | you could add another hook into the messaging system |
| [01:51:38] | wagnerrp: | or use the frontend services api |
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| [01:57:25] | mzb: | ok thanks ... I'll have a think/play/etc |
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| [04:55:49] | Jester86: | boo |
| [04:55:56] | Jester86: | mythtv 0.25 hates me |
| [04:56:27] | [R]: | well its old enough |
| [04:56:54] | Jester86: | Have you heard of anyone having issues with PVR150s? |
| [04:57:04] | [R]: | over the years o' |
| [04:57:05] | Jester86: | I deleted the cards and rebuilt their inputs |
| [04:57:08] | [R]: | ve heard of lots of 150 problems |
| [04:57:42] | Jester86: | Well I've read of a lot of people suddenly having all of the same issues immediately following a 0.24 to 0.25 upgrade |
| [04:58:05] | [R]: | well retsore your backupr or sopt using old stuff |
| [04:58:31] | Jester86: | the PVR150s no longer support liveTV playback.. unless you don't change the channel that is |
| [04:58:43] | [R]: | mythtv is a dvr |
| [04:58:45] | [R]: | not a dvp... |
| [04:58:50] | [R]: | maybe you want soemthingg else |
| [04:59:06] | [R]: | but if you've found a bug, on the current version of myth, file a bug reoprt |
| [04:59:24] | Jester86: | It worked fine in 0.24, its just a matter finding the issue and solving it |
| [04:59:35] | [R]: | "the issue"? |
| [04:59:42] | Jester86: | w/e the issue is |
| [05:00:04] | Jester86: | These cards worked fine under 0.24, suddenly they're not working properly under 0.25 |
| [05:00:13] | [R]: | alot of things changed in 256 |
| [05:00:14] | Jester86: | most likely there was just something fat fingered in the code |
| [05:00:14] | [R]: | 25* |
| [05:00:17] | [R]: | alot changed since then |
| [05:00:18] | [R]: | like i said |
| [05:00:21] | [R]: | try the current version |
| [05:00:25] | [R]: | and if you have a bug, file a bug report |
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| [05:00:55] | Jester86: | Well I'd like to find someone who has a PVR150 running in w/e version I'm going to |
| [05:01:22] | [R]: | then post on the forums |
| [05:01:26] | [R]: | s/forums/ml/ |
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| [05:12:58] | Jester86: | ? |
| [05:13:06] | Jester86: | dang no robots in here |
| [05:13:16] | Jester86: | kormoc |
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| [07:06:19] | bray90820: | Guess whos back |
| [07:06:48] | bray90820: | I cant seem to get my backend to connect to any third party front ends |
| [07:06:54] | bray90820: | xbmc being the one i want to use |
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| [07:12:45] | [R]: | bray90820: that seems unfortunate |
| [07:12:57] | bray90820: | Can you help me |
| [07:13:05] | [R]: | if your crappy 3rd party broken frontend isnt' working |
| [07:13:08] | [R]: | complain to the authors |
| [07:13:41] | bray90820: | it's not just 1 front end |
| [07:13:45] | bray90820: | it's all of them |
| [07:13:53] | [R]: | most 3rd party apps are crap |
| [07:14:01] | [R]: | and dont interface with myth properly |
| [07:14:12] | bray90820: | it was working until like 3 days ago |
| [07:14:26] | [R]: | sounds quite unfortunate |
| [07:15:26] | bray90820: | your not even going to try to help me are you |
| [07:15:49] | [R]: | this is the official support channel |
| [07:15:53] | [R]: | for support of mythtvg |
| [07:15:56] | [R]: | not random 3rd party things |
| [07:15:57] | bray90820: | yes |
| [07:16:14] | bray90820: | and i think it is a mythtv error because they all stopped working at once |
| [07:16:43] | [R]: | does the official frontend work? |
| [07:17:18] | bray90820: | i will check once mithfilddatabase is done |
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| [07:29:52] | bray90820: | Anyone else wanna look at my logs? |
| [07:29:53] | bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt |
| [07:30:02] | bray90820: | there are some errors in there |
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| [07:38:55] | bray90820: | Anyone around |
| [07:39:07] | bray90820: | ? |
| [07:40:59] | lapion: | am I correct to assume that mythtranscode and mythutil cache the whole file in ram when transcoding and archiving ? |
| [07:41:50] | lapion: | because most files cannot be transcoded because I would have to have a system with more than 4GB |
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| [09:00:37] | dekarl: | bray90820: check your network ports / firewall / NAT... |
| [09:01:34] | dekarl: | suspicious lines: E HttpServer74 httprequest.cpp:1015 (ParseRequest) Timeout reading first line of request. |
| [09:02:05] | dekarl: | or: E CoreContext mythsocket.cpp:375 (writeStringList) MythSocket(1fba0c0:83): writeStringList: Error, No data written on writeBlock |
| [09:09:06] | bray90820: | could it be that i recently installed ssh on the computer |
| [09:10:08] | bray90820: | dekarl: could it be that i recently setup ssh on the computer |
| [09:11:15] | dekarl: | bray90820: its unlikely for the ssh service to cause the observed behaviour. But made the installation triggered some configuration update of the firewall or something along these lines |
| [09:11:35] | bray90820: | i don't have a firewall |
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| [09:11:58] | bray90820: | unless ubuntu comes preinstalled with one |
| [09:14:18] | dekarl: | well, your log says something is hitting the internal webserver but its not a http client |
| [09:14:33] | bray90820: | does it give a port number |
| [09:16:23] | bray90820: | because ssh is the only thing i installed in the past while |
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| [09:17:12] | dekarl: | I'm not finding a list of network port numbers on the wiki :( |
| [09:17:50] | bray90820: | 22 is SSH |
| [09:17:56] | dekarl: | 6543 and 6544 are for mythtv |
| [09:18:14] | bray90820: | yes |
| [09:18:37] | dekarl: | 6546 would be the frontend control port |
| [09:19:11] | bray90820: | then why is it telling me 6543 |
| [09:20:00] | bray90820: | it worked before when i put 6543 in my front end |
| [09:20:17] | bray90820: | frontend |
| [09:21:59] | bray90820: | i could uninstall ssh and see if that works |
| [09:27:00] | dekarl: | bray90820: got to leave... I bet its some swapped numbers or typo somewhere |
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| [10:57:02] | wagnerrp: | bray90820: this looks like a serious issue... "MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75!" |
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| [12:30:09] | sphery: | lapion: no, neither mythtranscode, nor mythutil (does it even process files in any way?), cache file data in RAM. mythtranscode must have direct file system access to work--meaning you must do transcoding on the recording host or another host that has NFS-type access to the file. |
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| [12:34:19] | sphery: | lapion: also note that some /file systems/ have file size limits (such as the 2GB file size limit in SMB and 2GB in FAT16 and 4GB in FAT32) |
| [12:35:40] | sphery: | so if you're using smb, change to CIFS and if you're using FAT, change to any real file system |
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| [12:50:52] | Oleg_: | how can I remove certain channels from mythtv's browse list? |
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| [12:59:33] | Oleg_: | oh, I know how to do it now |
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| [13:12:56] | joelsplace: | Anyone have any thoughts on my slave tuner killing my upcoming recordings. I've posted on the Ubuntu, LINHES and MythTV forums and no help so far... |
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| [15:18:29] | sphery: | joelsplace: Do you have sufficient available temp directory space? MySQL requires a lot of "scratch space" to run the scheduler query. |
| [15:18:41] | sphery: | joelsplace: see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/499109#499109 |
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| [15:20:24] | sphery: | joelsplace: see, also, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/temporary-files.html |
| [15:25:37] | gigem: | joelsplace: Definitely check your /tmp space as sphery suggests. If that doesn't help, use "-v schedule,database" when you run --testsched. |
| [15:26:03] | sphery: | joelsplace: so, for example, if you're using a distro that uses a tmpfs for /tmp , there's a good chance that's the problem (and it only manifests with 2 tuners because of the more-complex scheduling/additional possibilities) |
| [15:27:09] | sphery: | gigem: I wonder if I can find a way to get more info from MySQL so we could put an explicit message in the logs for that issue... I'll have to play around with my dev box and see if I can repro. |
| [15:35:46] | gigem: | sphery: I just did a quick search for why Qt and/or MySQL might be truncating the error message, but didn't find anything. Being able to print the full message would be a big help. We could then print another message saying "If the above error says blah, blah, blah, it means blah, blah, blah". |
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| [16:44:35] | sphery: | gigem: I think the message is getting cut off by the logging message buffer size |
| [16:45:35] | sphery: | gigem: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . ogging.h#n21 |
| [16:47:03] | sphery: | that said, normally there's an error from Qt-MySQL drivers that appears right after "DB Error (AddNewRecords):", then the next line says "Query was: " and gives the query. |
| [16:48:05] | sphery: | So I'm thinking MySQL isn't giving an error message at all (just an error) and/or Qt MySQL drivers aren't interpreting it for us |
| [16:49:41] | sphery: | actually, maybe not... maybe the db error message is always given after the query |
| [16:57:43] | gigem: | sphery: If I understand you correctly, no. MythDB::DBError() logs it all as one, long string. Good catch on the logging doing the truncating. |
| [16:59:27] | sphery: | yeah, so it seems that the actual driver error comes last, after the query (and in the case of super-long queries, like in the scheduler, we don't get the error) |
| [17:00:36] | sphery: | gigem: perhaps we should change MythDB::DBError() to log the query and the error message separately |
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| [17:30:26] | gigem: | That would work or change MythDB::GetError() to put the error message first, then the query and bindings. |
| [17:32:40] | sphery: | I'm test-compiling a patch that splits them out |
| [17:33:04] | sphery: | (unfortunately pretty much requires recompiling everything, since it's at such a low level) |
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| [17:59:13] | sphery: | stuartm: yeah, the problem here is that it's logging the failed query, but it puts the driver error message at the end, and since the logging buffer only allows messages a little less than 2kB, we lose the actual error message with extremely long queries, like in the scheduler. I have a patch to log the query separately from the driver error. |
| [17:59:46] | sphery: | wow, I keep messing up my channels |
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| [18:17:27] | bray90820: | So can anyone help me with my logs |
| [18:17:28] | bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt |
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| [18:22:08] | bray90820: | wagnerrp: you said earlier "MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75!" |
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| [18:32:07] | jarle: | "EITScanner (7): Added 225 EIT Events" What kind of "events" is this? Is this number of programs, or something else? |
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| [18:59:29] | bray90820: | Anyone around? |
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| [19:23:06] | jst^: | Hey guys, about time to redo the server. I have an Infinitv Ceton 4 card on it, and am really dreading calling FiOS to have it activated. Is there any way aroudn this? Thanks. |
| [19:41:40] | Tobbe5178: | jarle: it is programs in the program guide, EIT stands for event information table, or in plain english program guide over dvb |
| [19:44:14] | jarle: | Tobbe5178: sure, I understand what EIT is, but after EITScanner has added the events EITHelper will do "EITHelper: Added 7 events" |
| [19:44:34] | jarle: | Tobbe5178: I was just wondering if this was the same kind of events they talk about. |
| [19:44:50] | jarle: | EITScanner vs EITHelper |
| [19:45:26] | Tobbe5178: | i know the code have some fixup of eit guide data, maybe one of them is from the fixup |
| [19:45:34] | jarle: | I'm guessing that EITScanner is doing the actual harvesting of EIT data, and then EITHelper will see if it needs to update anything? |
| [19:45:52] | Tobbe5178: | havent used eit for a long time due to the bad data quality compared to the stuff you get from xmltv |
| [19:46:57] | jst^: | Hey guys, about time to redo the server. I have an Infinitv Ceton 4 card on it, and am really dreading calling FiOS to have it activated. Is there any way aroudn this? Thanks. |
| [19:47:13] | Tobbe5178: | no idea what a ceton card is, sorry |
| [19:47:21] | jarle: | me neither.. |
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| [19:54:36] | jst^: | it's a cablecard reader |
| [19:54:50] | jst^: | takes an m-card and allows you to stream up to 4 shows concurrently ;) |
| [19:56:10] | jarle: | jst_: and why do you think you will ned to have it reactivated? |
| [20:00:42] | jst^: | i've reinstalled debian before (i really need a testing vm/box) and i had to call an 800 number 3x to get it working again |
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| [21:06:20] | RogerM: | maybe someone here can point me in the right direction. I managed to activate collecting of EPG data från EIT data for a couple of channels but they have the wrong start time. What am I missing? |
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| [21:21:18] | sphery: | RogerM: what do you mean "the wrong time"? offset by your GMT offset or ??? |
| [21:21:22] | sphery: | RogerM: what version of mythtv? |
| [21:22:42] | RogerM: | It's one hour into the future. I'm at almost latest 0.26 (mythbuntu). I noticed the the EITTimeOffset setting was set to auto. Set it to None to see if it is trying to correct time that is already correct.. Waiting for EIT to insert data at the moment. |
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| [21:26:19] | RogerM: | how often is EIT data collected? Tried to find some information about that but my google-fu isn't that good. |
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| [21:28:05] | sphery: | RogerM: there is no EITTimeOffset setting in 0.26--are you just inspecting settings directly in the database? |
| [21:29:32] | RogerM: | yes I am.. (since I cant take down the backend at the moment). |
| [21:29:44] | RogerM: | Well.. Then that wont solve the problem.. |
| [21:29:59] | sphery: | yeah, it used to be a setting, but isn't now |
| [21:30:15] | RogerM: | It's like the scanner is adding one hour to the data collected. |
| [21:31:13] | sphery: | are you 1hr offset from UTC? |
| [21:31:31] | sphery: | it seems you're close, based on ip |
| [21:31:55] | RogerM: | I'm at CEST at the moment.. It should be +2 of GMT/UTC. |
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| [21:33:19] | sphery: | I'd suggest asking on the mythtv-users mailing list--and mentioning your provider. It's likely someone who's using the same could help you, but you're more likely to find them with an e-mail to the list with a good subject |
| [21:33:54] | sphery: | (not saying you can't stay here and hope you find someone from your area with the same provider, just that it's probably easier to do so on list) |
| [21:34:14] | RogerM: | ok.. Will try that. |
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| [21:34:34] | sphery: | sorry I'm not more help |
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| [21:37:13] | RogerM: | No worries.. :) |
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| [21:37:31] | RogerM: | You did ask and I appreciated that. :) |
| [21:38:59] | dekarl-too: | RogerM, can you Post the Data as Seen by dvbsnoop together with the Expected Data to the List? |
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| [21:40:10] | sphery: | ah, and here's our EIT/listings expert |
| [21:40:37] | RogerM: | I probably could but I'm not that well versed in dvbsnoop-ing. You have some good arguments I should use? |
| [21:41:28] | bray90820: | Can someone take a look at my logs and tell me what is going on |
| [21:41:29] | bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=grQQPPmt |
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| [21:42:27] | sphery: | bray90820: you know what's going on better than anyone who just randomly looks at your logs... i.e. what are the symptoms of the problem you're trying to solve |
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| [21:43:05] | sphery: | from the random line or 2 of errors I see in there, it looks like a) you're using some 3rd party client that doesn't use the protocol properly (and may or may not connect/work properly) |
| [21:43:14] | sphery: | b) you have some problems with your channel definitions |
| [21:43:23] | bray90820: | i can't connect to backend to any 3rd party front-end and the official front-end skips massively |
| [21:43:30] | dekarl-too: | I think the Default, decoded Data. Plus hexdump, Would be Good. Basically dvbsnoop 0x12 and pick a Show that you know the Expected Data. |
| [21:43:31] | sphery: | c) you may or may not have network/socket issues (though those could be caused by a broken frontend) |
| [21:43:36] | sphery: | s/frontend/client/ |
| [21:43:52] | bray90820: | The client is CBMC |
| [21:44:02] | bray90820: | XBMC |
| [21:44:07] | sphery: | for the mythfrontend frontend, you say it skips? |
| [21:44:27] | sphery: | you mean like "<lots of> frames behind, dropping frame" type skips? |
| [21:44:35] | bray90820: | while watching tv there is a lot of stuttering |
| [21:44:41] | sphery: | what do you have specified for your Playback Profile group? What video card? |
| [21:44:43] | bray90820: | live tv that is |
| [21:44:52] | sphery: | what about watching pre-recorded TV? |
| [21:45:03] | bray90820: | let me check |
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| [21:46:11] | bray90820: | pre recorded works fine |
| [21:46:40] | sphery: | then the issues with live may be at least partially related to the channel issues |
| [21:46:59] | bray90820: | jus for informational purposes xbmc did you to work fine |
| [21:47:24] | bray90820: | are you saying the live TV issue was with one channel |
| [21:47:33] | sphery: | channel issues like: |
| [21:47:37] | sphery: | Apr 23 02:19:51 Server mythlogserver: mythbackend[5692]: E HDHRStreamHandler dtvsignalmonitor.cpp:321 (HandlePAT) DTVSM(131600CB-0): Program #0 not found in PAT!#012Program Association Section#012 PSIP tableID(0x0) length(13) extension(0x0)#012 version(18) current(1) section(0) last_section(0)#012 tsid(0) programCount(1)#012 program number 1 has PID 0x0032 |
| [21:47:37] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/0 ** | |
| [21:47:37] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/012 ** | |
| [21:47:37] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/012 ** | |
| [21:47:37] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/012 ** | |
| [21:47:48] | sphery: | grr... those aren't tickets! |
| [21:48:00] | sphery: | is this HDHR Prime? |
| [21:48:11] | bray90820: | yes it is |
| [21:48:15] | bray90820: | with a cable card |
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| [21:48:54] | sphery: | ok, so maybe those aren't channel issues |
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| [21:49:12] | sphery: | in theory, it should handle all the tuning just given a channel identifier (number) |
| [21:49:31] | bray90820: | well i can tune from channel to channel just fine |
| [21:49:37] | bray90820: | but the playback is choppy |
| [21:51:04] | bray90820: | and i have no idea why these errors are happening at all |
| [21:51:21] | sphery: | in mythfrontend, if you start Live TV, then hit pause for a few seconds (about 10, say), then resume playback, is it still choppy? |
| [21:51:34] | bray90820: | let me check |
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| [21:53:15] | bray90820: | well i just checked and there is no choppy playback at all |
| [21:53:21] | bray90820: | but i till have socket errors |
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| [21:54:49] | bray90820: | Right? |
| [21:55:48] | sphery: | not sure what's causing the socket errors, but if it's not impacting performance... |
| [21:56:14] | bray90820: | it is making it to i can't connect to any other front end beside a local one |
| [21:56:38] | sphery: | mythfrontend on other hosts doesn't work? |
| [21:56:58] | RogerM: | dekarl-too: Is there a way for me to filter the dvbsnoop to a channel or do I have to dump everything? I get EIT-data but cant see which channel it is so I can compare. |
| [21:57:20] | bray90820: | sphery: can we fix the socket erros? |
| [21:57:42] | sphery: | you'd have to figure out what's causing them |
| [21:57:56] | bray90820: | how |
| [21:58:07] | sphery: | generally it either means a broken network (connection/configuratin/...) or a client using the protocol incorrectly |
| [21:58:32] | bray90820: | by the way i will have to go soon i will be in and out from time to time for the next few hours |
| [21:58:51] | bray90820: | sphery where you you recommend i start |
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| [21:59:36] | sphery: | I'd recommend you start with getting supported clients--mythfrontend--working, then move on to "use at your own risk" clients |
| [22:00:07] | bray90820: | i ment for fixing the socket errors |
| [22:01:13] | dekarl-too: | RogerM you'll get all Data in the frequency you are tunend to. You can Filter, but i have Never used that and always Filter manually |
| [22:01:56] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o sphery | |
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| [22:12:27] | AndroUser2: | So wjat should i do about my socket errors |
| [22:12:37] | AndroUser2: | Hang on |
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| [22:13:26] | RogerM: | dekarl-too: Thanks for the help. I got some data and found a program to compare too. It looks like the EIT-data is UTC. Atleast it says so. So Myth does the right right and adds CEST but it should att CET to be correct.. Sigh.. Looks like bad data. |
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| [22:13:52] | bray90820_mobile: | So what should i do about my socket errors |
| [22:16:21] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -o sphery | |
| [22:17:23] | sphery: | bray90820: the socket errors are a symptom of another problem, not the real problem |
| [22:17:38] | sphery: | they could be the 3rd party clients |
| [22:18:04] | sphery: | to find out you simply ensure you're not using any 3rd party clients on any host or device on your network and see if they go away |
| [22:18:26] | bray90820_mobile: | :( |
| [22:18:39] | sphery: | if they occur between mythbackend and mythfrontend (official/supported software), then it's likely network problems or network configuration |
| [22:19:04] | sphery: | I remember reading something about some kernel parameter that has to be adjusted for networking to work properly on some systems |
| [22:19:11] | sphery: | no idea what it was, though |
| [22:19:44] | bray90820_mobile: | Actually come to think of it i haven't used a 3rd party front end in about a month |
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| [22:20:28] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v dekarl | |
| [22:22:18] | dekarl: | RogerM: yes, EIT data is in UTC, the channel must signal what time it thinks currently is (TDT) in UTC plus can optionally signal the current offset (TOT) to convert to local time for display. |
| [22:23:21] | sphery: | bray90820: Apr 23 wasn't a month ago... |
| [22:23:23] | sphery: | Apr 23 01:59:44 Server mythlogserver: mythbackend[5400]: C ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1294 (HandleVersion) MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75! |
| [22:23:39] | sphery: | as no official MythTV application speaks protocol version 8 |
| [22:23:46] | sphery: | (at least it hasn't since, like, 2003) |
| [22:24:21] | RogerM: | dekarl: Ok.. My DVB-C capable TV is getting it right (LG Smart TV). I See in dvbsnoop the starttime but Can I see TOT in the output too? |
| [22:25:17] | dekarl: | RogerM: just change the 0x12 to 0x12,0x14 http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-tot_tdt.html |
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| [22:28:43] | bray90820_mobile: | Sphery Well i never successfully used that frontend |
| [22:29:35] | sphery: | bray90820_mobile: what I'm trying to imply is that it could just be that client's connecting (and disconnecting and reconnecting and ...) that's causing socket errors |
| [22:30:33] | bray90820_mobile: | I can later send logs from a point where i never used a 3rd party frontend |
| [22:31:28] | bray90820_mobile: | If that would help |
| [22:32:54] | sphery: | well, it sounds like you said that mythfrontend is working fine |
| [22:33:05] | sphery: | and if that's the case, the socket errors are nothing to be concerned about |
| [22:33:33] | sphery: | and if your only remaining issue is getting xbmc to work with mythtv, your best bet is to ask in xbmc channel |
| [22:34:00] | bray90820_mobile: | Its a mythtv error |
| [22:34:14] | sphery: | it's an error noticed by mythtv |
| [22:34:28] | sphery: | it's mythtv being contacted by something else on the network |
| [22:34:32] | bray90820_mobile: | Once the socket errors are fix i will conclude its xbmc |
| [22:34:38] | sphery: | and that something else is either failing to use the protocol correctly |
| [22:34:56] | sphery: | or the network is failing to work correctly (and, for instance, cutting off the communications mid stream) |
| [22:35:11] | bray90820_mobile: | Any computer i try to connect it to fails |
| [22:35:12] | sphery: | and, again, it could well be that libcmyth is causing the errors |
| [22:35:21] | sphery: | because it's known to not use the protocol correctly |
| [22:35:33] | sphery: | mythfrontend on another computer fails to connect? |
| [22:36:04] | bray90820_mobile: | I will check that latet |
| [22:36:24] | RogerM: | dekarl: I cant snoop on two pids at the same time but snooping on 0x14 I found this row: Local_time_offset: 01:00. If I add this to the starttime it gets correct. Is myth taking this into account? |
| [22:36:42] | bray90820_mobile: | Is it ok if i use 0.25 to connect to a 0.26 backend |
| [22:37:10] | sphery: | bray90820_mobile: no, mythtv requires that all parts be the same version--we don't support any cross-version compatibility |
| [22:37:12] | RogerM: | bray90820_mobile: No.. You have to have same version on both sides. |
| [22:37:33] | bray90820_mobile: | Ok |
| [22:37:39] | bray90820_mobile: | I will use 0.26 |
| [22:38:17] | bray90820_mobile: | What are the minimal system requirements for the frontend |
| [22:38:51] | RogerM: | dekarl: Btw. Do you know if myth EIT-scanner populates the Episode information if it's found? |
| [22:38:53] | dekarl: | RogerM, no it is not taken into account. The reasoning being that we just copy UTC times from the EIT feed to the database without fiddling about. But it might explain why your TV shows it correctly, basically two wrongs (the broadcaster sending the wrong times and the TV show channel local time of a different time zone) make one right... |
| [22:39:11] | dekarl: | RogerM: what do you mean by "episode information"? |
| [22:39:49] | dekarl: | RogerM: MythTV will by default put the short event description into the episode title field and the long event description into the synopsis field |
| [22:39:50] | RogerM: | dekarl: I noticed in the snoop that there was an episode-num entry on the show I was looking at. |
| [22:40:53] | dekarl: | RogerM: hmm, can you post an example to the list? I've never heard of such a field, but it could be a generic key/value pair or something in the plain text for fixups to scrape |
| [22:42:05] | sphery: | bray90820_mobile: fwiw, another possibility for "using the protocol incorrectly" would be some non-MythTV thing (web server or mysql client or ...) connecting to your mythbackend port (i.e. 6543)... you could also try to catch what's doing the connecting with netstat and see if you've misconfigured something unrelated to mythtv |
| [22:42:20] | RogerM: | dekarl: So should myth assume that the starttime is "correct" UTC or should myth use the time offset the EIT data is using? |
| [22:42:24] | dekarl: | RogerM: if the issue is with only one channel we may be able to come up with an EITFixup that fixes the times, leaving only the CET->CEST and CEST->CET switch with wrong data |
| [22:42:49] | sphery: | and, fwiw, netstat may show the port as lds-distrib or something, rather than 6543 |
| [22:44:10] | dekarl: | RogerM: the "lets just use local time" assumption breaks as soon as your channels span multiple time zones. E.g. watching german and british free satelite tv |
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| [22:45:46] | RogerM: | dekarl: I found the episode-num in an 0x4e descriptor tag: item_description: "episode-num" — Charset: Latin alphabet no. 5 |
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| [22:46:31] | dekarl: | RogerM, cool. Can I have a specimen? That's the first time I see the generic key/value system in use where I'm not on the writing end :) |
| [22:47:14] | RogerM: | dekarl: sure.. No problem. Is it ok with a cut and paste from dvbsnoop? |
| [22:47:30] | dekarl: | ^- implicit message, no MythTV does not support the key/value system, but it would be nice to add some EITFixups that make use of available data |
| [22:48:27] | dekarl: | RogerM: yes. the full section would be nice (aka. one full block of text+hexdump) |
| [22:49:27] | dekarl: | for the station that has the wrong time code a full section would be nice, too. and a little note pointing out if its only one channel or the full transport that is 1 hour off |
| [22:51:05] | RogerM: | dekarl: How can I send it to you? |
| [22:51:46] | dekarl: | as its likely of interest to others mythtv-users? |
| [22:53:04] | RogerM: | Sure.. It's not much text (one of the shorter hex dumps). I'll drop a note on the list. |
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| [22:53:58] | RogerM: | dekarl: I sure would like to see some fixup adding the episode-num as "Part X Season Y". :) |
| [22:54:05] | RogerM: | as subtitle.. |
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| [23:07:55] | dekarl: | RogerM: thanks, maybe just attach it as a file and put a reduced subset in the body or so. (got to leave for the night) |
| [23:08:42] | RogerM: | dekarl: Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.. |
| [23:09:05] | dekarl: | y/w |
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