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| [00:06:34] | RagingMind: | and of course I botch the 2nd half of the sentence |
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| [01:31:39] | chronic1: | wagnerrp: thanks for the information! |
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| [01:51:56] | wagnerrp: | sphery: what graphics card did you decide on getting? |
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| [02:46:49] | bray9082_: | if i were to push my backend out over SSH coudl other front ends pick it up |
| [02:46:55] | bray9082_: | could |
| [02:47:34] | [R]: | "push"? |
| [02:47:58] | bray9082_: | push as in send it out |
| [02:48:20] | bray9082_: | broadcast it over ssh |
| [02:48:25] | [R]: | huh? |
| [02:48:57] | bray9082_: | what don't you understand |
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| [02:49:07] | [R]: | what "broadcast it over ssh" means |
| [02:49:28] | bray9082_: | like send out my backend over SSH |
| [02:49:37] | [R]: | that makes no sense |
| [02:49:41] | bray9082_: | why |
| [02:49:47] | [R]: | because it doesn't |
| [02:49:51] | bray9082_: | what doesn't |
| [02:50:04] | [R]: | what you said |
| [02:50:30] | bray9082_: | https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Andr . . . kend-via-SSH |
| [02:50:32] | bray9082_: | that's what i mean |
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| [02:51:03] | Korny: | Evening |
| [02:51:34] | bray9082_: | Hello Korny |
| [02:51:39] | Korny: | Hello.... |
| [02:51:51] | [R]: | no |
| [02:51:58] | [R]: | mythfrontend needs access to the sql database |
| [02:52:08] | [R]: | and it expects to be on the same network as the backend |
| [02:52:32] | bray9082_: | but then why is there that guide |
| [02:52:50] | Korny: | [R]: he's using ssh tunneling, so if he opened up the correct ports he could do it, HOWEVER he probably doesn't ahve the bandwidth |
| [02:52:54] | [R]: | it telsl you exactly what itws for... |
| [02:53:21] | bray9082_: | that's what i want to do but i want to connect it to mythtv |
| [02:53:27] | bray9082_: | waite |
| [02:53:30] | bray9082_: | let me resay that |
| [02:53:35] | Korny: | bray9082_: are you connecting remotely? |
| [02:53:42] | bray9082_: | korny i want to |
| [02:53:48] | bray9082_: | i want to conenct to XBMC |
| [02:53:50] | Korny: | if so you be better off connecting to port 6544 and using services |
| [02:53:57] | Korny: | or mythweb |
| [02:54:06] | bray9082_: | korny will it work through SSH |
| [02:54:52] | Korny: | Why do you need to use ssh |
| [02:55:06] | bray9082_: | well i wanted to have my choice of front ends |
| [02:55:19] | Korny: | huh? |
| [02:55:56] | bray9082_: | i wanted to use any frontend i chose to connect to my backend remotly |
| [02:56:08] | Korny: | You still messing with XBMC? |
| [02:56:24] | Korny: | What internet pipe do you have? |
| [02:57:18] | Korny: | because unless you have a 15+ Mbit upload all this is pointless |
| [02:59:03] | bray9082_: | I have 30MB down |
| [02:59:10] | bray9082_: | im not sure about the up |
| [03:00:31] | bray9082_: | but i will try it and if it doesn't work it doesn't work |
| [03:00:58] | bray9082_: | i mean i can stream video with ssh with no problem |
| [03:01:24] | bray9082_: | so i don't see why mythtv would be any different |
| [03:01:33] | Korny: | mpeg2 |
| [03:01:48] | bray9082_: | i am streaming vob |
| [03:03:07] | Korny: | At what bitrate? |
| [03:03:19] | bray9082_: | let me check that |
| [03:04:27] | bray9082_: | it looks like 2 |
| [03:04:34] | bray9082_: | but i am not in a place where i can check that |
| [03:05:01] | bray9082_: | I mean if i can lower the quality to 2MB that's fine |
| [03:05:58] | [R]: | myth streams whatever it gets |
| [03:06:12] | bray9082_: | so mythtv is automatic |
| [03:06:25] | [R]: | huh? |
| [03:06:38] | bray9082_: | atuomatic bitrate |
| [03:06:52] | [R]: | its whatever the source is |
| [03:06:57] | [R]: | it doesnt touch it |
| [03:07:16] | bray9082_: | yes Automatic |
| [03:07:48] | [R]: | that makes no sense |
| [03:07:50] | [R]: | but whatever |
| [03:07:58] | bray9082_: | that's the way my current setup is with my other videos but the application downgrades it to 2MB |
| [03:08:31] | Korny: | Mythtv doesn't autotranscode according to bitrate available, at least not that I know of |
| [03:09:00] | bray9082_: | alright |
| [03:09:19] | bray9082_: | maybe i can downgrade it with XBMC |
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| [03:46:50] | PsychoSquirrel: | Hello, everyone |
| [03:48:31] | PsychoSquirrel: | I was wondering how can I get "Slingbox" functionality on MythTV 0.25? I found Mythstreamtv online but it's support only goes as far as 0.20. |
| [03:50:26] | [R]: | what "slingbox" functionality do you want? |
| [03:51:20] | PsychoSquirrel: | live tv over internet |
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| [03:52:37] | [R]: | yeah, myth dosnt really work too well over antyhign other than a lan |
| [03:53:09] | PsychoSquirrel: | hmm ok |
| [03:53:46] | PsychoSquirrel: | anything in Linux that can accomplish live tv over the internet? |
| [03:54:47] | PsychoSquirrel: | I even went as far to thinking maybe Wine with Orb 2.0 but It becomes a gray area when trying to think how the hardware would interact with an emulated software |
| [03:54:59] | [R]: | this is #mytthtv-users not #randomlinuxsoftware |
| [03:55:08] | PsychoSquirrel: | sorry |
| [03:55:17] | PsychoSquirrel: | Ill keep it on topic |
| [03:55:47] | Korny: | I use emit |
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| [03:56:03] | Korny: | you might want to look into it, its not live per say but can play mythtv recordings |
| [03:57:46] | PsychoSquirrel: | Ive been working at this for 2 days so far. Im still trying to figure out how I can get mythtv to open dvd iso files and put it through to my dlna client too. |
| [03:58:43] | [R]: | your client would need to know how to play it |
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| [04:00:25] | PsychoSquirrel: | True |
| [04:02:50] | PsychoSquirrel: | ok I think that is it for now. I'll figure out something. |
| [04:03:01] | PsychoSquirrel: | Thank you [R] and Korny |
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| [04:17:19] | tom__: | Hi all, looking for information on using a Ceton card under myth as a clearQAM tuner w/o a cable card |
| [04:17:44] | [R]: | read the wiki |
| [04:18:21] | tom__: | [R] – I did – unelss I missed something – I don't see anything there about using w/o cablecard |
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| [04:20:32] | tom__: | Everything I ead seems to elude to being able to use the card like a "regular" tuner, but if I try adding it to myth as a QVB tuner, myth won't take it |
| [04:21:08] | tom__: | If I add it like a ceton card, there is no way to scan for channels and w/o a calbe card it seems that you would have to do that |
| [04:22:25] | [R]: | you should try the mailing list |
| [04:22:51] | tom__: | OK, thanks [R] |
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| [06:37:37] | bray9082_: | Can i use SSH to connect to an XBMC PCR client |
| [06:37:43] | bray9082_: | wrong roon |
| [06:37:44] | bray9082_: | sorry |
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| [07:25:03] | bray9082_: | What does this mean |
| [07:25:05] | bray9082_: | mythtv.dyndns.org |
| [07:27:06] | sheppard: | it's a hostname |
| [07:30:26] | bray9082_: | yes |
| [07:30:34] | bray9082_: | but what would i use for my own host name |
| [07:33:12] | bray9082_: | how would i find the values i would use |
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| [08:07:00] | bray9082_: | Anyone know how i would find my mysql details |
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| [08:18:48] | SteveGoodey: | bray9082_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MySql |
| [08:19:50] | bray9082_: | Thank you |
| [08:22:17] | SteveGoodey: | Not sure if that's what you're after. |
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| [08:35:35] | bray9082_: | well i don't actually need the info anymore anyways |
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| [12:42:59] | lpx: | hi all, I am a newbie trying to set up mythtv with a dual DVB card |
| [12:43:33] | lpx: | The goal is to watch live tv on XBMC on another machine. |
| [12:43:44] | lpx: | So far I have very partial success. |
| [12:44:22] | lpx: | I have to open mythfrontend on the backend machine, choose the channel, manually choose the input for that channel, and then the XBMC side works. |
| [12:44:53] | lpx: | My first question: when I choose a channel in mythfrontend, should it be choosing the input for me? |
| [12:45:40] | lpx: | (Each DVB input goes to a switch with three LNBs). |
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| [14:44:03] | tgm4883: | lpx, yes |
| [14:44:26] | lpx: | mmh, that's a pity. |
| [14:44:58] | wagnerrp: | if xbmc is not doing the right thing, there's nothing we can do to resolve that |
| [14:45:00] | lpx: | I updated to 0.26 hoping that would fix it |
| [14:45:10] | lpx: | It's not XBMC it's mythfrontend. |
| [14:45:38] | wagnerrp: | you said mythfrontend was working properly, xbmc was not |
| [14:46:04] | lpx: | Ok, maybe I wasn't clear. |
| [14:46:33] | lpx: | I was asking if mythfrontend should be changing the input based on the channel because it is not changing the input when I change channel. |
| [14:46:55] | wagnerrp: | it would only change the input if it needs to to access that channel |
| [14:46:55] | tgm4883: | lpx, depends, how are you choosing the channel? |
| [14:47:16] | lpx: | up-down buttons then enter. :S |
| [14:47:27] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, does mythfrontend allow you to choose channels on different tuners without going to the guide now? |
| [14:47:37] | tgm4883: | IDK, I haven't used livetv in a long long time |
| [14:47:47] | wagnerrp: | it always did, with the "browse across tuners" option |
| [14:47:47] | lpx: | THen it fails to lock unless I use C to choose the input to the right LNB. |
| [14:48:00] | wagnerrp: | but i believe with 0.26, that option was removed and the behavior set permanent |
| [14:48:05] | tgm4883: | lpx, sounds like you've got something setup wrong |
| [14:48:12] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ah |
| [14:48:18] | wagnerrp: | you don't choose the lnb, you choose the tuner |
| [14:48:30] | wagnerrp: | and the tuner figures out what lnb it needs to access through your multiswitch |
| [14:48:36] | lpx: | Ok, now I'm *really* confused. |
| [14:48:37] | tgm4883: | lpx, it sounds like you've got mythtv thinking that all channels exist on all tuners |
| [14:48:58] | wagnerrp: | it sounds like you did not set up diseqc properly in mythtv-setup |
| [14:49:01] | lpx: | Maybe if I tell you how I did my setup |
| [14:49:16] | lpx: | Hang on I'll load the setup prog. |
| [14:49:18] | wagnerrp: | you have two tuners. can those tuners not access the same channels? |
| [14:49:21] | tgm4883: | lpx, you need to have a separate guide data source for each tuner |
| [14:49:33] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, doesn't sound like it |
| [14:49:49] | lpx: | Both tuners have an identical feed. |
| [14:50:00] | wagnerrp: | then why would you ever need to change tuners? |
| [14:50:03] | lpx: | They're each going into a 4x4 lnb switch. |
| [14:50:15] | tgm4883: | yea that doesn't make sense |
| [14:50:37] | ** tgm4883 is unfamiliar with LNB stuff ** | |
| [14:50:42] | lpx: | Physically, as it were, I have 3 LNBs pointing at 13E,19E,28.2E plugged into a 4-port multi-switch. |
| [14:51:10] | lpx: | So each tuner has access to its own DISEqc to switch between LNBs. |
| [14:51:15] | wagnerrp: | it's both of our belief that with diseqc set up properly, mythtv and your tuner will automatically manage your switch as needed |
| [14:51:39] | wagnerrp: | however neither of us has any experience with DVB-S or diseqc to claim that with any authority |
| [14:52:06] | tgm4883: | unfortunately, this is true |
| [14:52:07] | wagnerrp: | DVB-S is of nearly zero value in the states |
| [14:52:24] | lpx: | I think the LNB stuff is working. |
| [14:52:37] | wagnerrp: | it exists, but it's filled with religious and shopping channels |
| [14:52:42] | lpx: | It's just that, as you said, something's wonky with how it's associated channels to them |
| [14:54:26] | lpx: | MythTv-wise... I have two DVB capture cards. Each is configured with a switch then three LNBs below it. |
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| [14:55:05] | tgm4883: | lpx, I just want to make sure I understand this correctly |
| [14:55:11] | tgm4883: | lpx, you have 3 tuners? |
| [14:55:27] | lpx: | No, sorry, I have one card with two inputs. |
| [14:55:50] | wagnerrp: | he has two tuners, tied into three LNBs |
| [14:55:59] | wagnerrp: | the LNB is the little unit that sits on the dish |
| [14:56:08] | lpx: | +wagnerrp, correct. |
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| [14:56:22] | tgm4883: | have, IDK, this LNB stuff is confusing me. You shouldn't need to switch tuners to get the other channels |
| [14:56:22] | wagnerrp: | and converts the 10–20GHz polarized signal down to a 1–2GHz signal you can send over the wire to the tuner |
| [14:56:36] | wagnerrp: | Low Noise Block converter |
| [14:56:56] | wagnerrp: | it just takes a chunk of that high frequency space, and converts it down to a usable frequency |
| [14:57:20] | lpx: | And each LNB points at a particular "constellation" of satellites. |
| [14:58:19] | lpx: | Ok, so I have those two tuners. At the moment I am using a single "Video Source". |
| [14:58:56] | tgm4883: | lpx, ok, so if we just look at one of the tuners, in a working scenario, that should be able to access all of your channels right? |
| [14:58:58] | lpx: | Then in inputs I have one input per LNB per tuner, effectively. |
| [14:59:10] | lpx: | Yes. |
| [14:59:13] | tgm4883: | (because it will change stuff on the 4x4 LNB switch) |
| [14:59:29] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: assuming mythtv is properly sending the necessary signals over diseqc to control the switch |
| [14:59:48] | tgm4883: | ok, then at this point i'm out. IDK the inner working of mythtv's ability of configuring the switch |
| [14:59:49] | lpx: | I can get all the channels I should if I scan each LNB in turn. |
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| [15:02:54] | lpx: | I don't think it's down to the switch stuff really. |
| [15:03:07] | lpx: | It should be just like a card with multiple inputs. |
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| [15:03:37] | lpx: | Except in my case it seems to not know which input a channel is actually on, or assumes all inputs can give that channel (then they cannot). |
| [15:04:46] | tgm4883: | lpx, but, I thought we just said that a single tuner should be able to get all channels? |
| [15:05:17] | lpx: | A single tuner, yes, but in mythtv that gives me an input per LNB. |
| [15:05:48] | lpx: | So for each tuner I have three inputs. |
| [15:06:04] | lpx: | I wonder if I need video source per LNB. |
| [15:06:10] | tgm4883: | yea, this is where my unfamiliarity with LNB's is confusing |
| [15:06:39] | wagnerrp: | i also. i assumed that bit would have been hidden from the user |
| [15:06:39] | lpx: | I know – if you've not dealt with the satellite stuff before it's a bit funky. :) |
| [15:06:41] | tgm4883: | lpx, it sounds similar to multirec, but with that you'd have the same channels on each side |
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| [15:07:45] | lpx: | What's multirec? |
| [15:08:26] | tgm4883: | lpx, you can use a single tuner to record multiple channels on the same multiplex |
| [15:08:45] | tgm4883: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Record_multiple_ch . . . ne_multiplex |
| [15:09:01] | lpx: | ah ok, that works too on satellite so long as they're all on the same transponder. |
| [15:10:30] | lpx: | I'm going to go configure an EIT per LNB and see what I get. :) |
| [15:10:42] | lpx: | (SOrry, a video source per LNB). |
| [15:13:58] | wagnerrp: | lpx: all i can suggest is to idle around here for a while for some other european DVB-S users to come on, or try the mailing list |
| [15:14:35] | wagnerrp: | while there are a decent number of DVB-S users, most of them don't use switches, so it might be difficult to find someone with experience in that area of the program |
| [15:15:32] | lpx: | tgm4883, +wagnerrp, thanks for the help, I'll poke the install further and idle here a while, then post a mail tomorrow if I get no further. :) |
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| [15:24:32] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [15:25:00] | mattwj2002: | I need some help |
| [15:25:03] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [15:25:15] | mattwj2002: | my recordings are getting corrupt |
| [15:25:30] | mattwj2002: | I think it is because I am recording too much at once....any thoughts? |
| [15:26:51] | lpx: | mattwj2002, have you done the obvious things like check the filesystem (fsck, whatever)? |
| [15:27:16] | wagnerrp: | what type of tuner? |
| [15:27:32] | mattwj2002: | AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics running only at 780 Mhz what? |
| [15:27:53] | wagnerrp: | hopefully this a a low duty backend? |
| [15:28:03] | mattwj2002: | hdhomerun and wintv-dcr-2650 |
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| [15:28:12] | mattwj2002: | 4 tuners |
| [15:28:19] | mattwj2002: | 2 per device |
| [15:28:27] | mattwj2002: | yeah all it does is record |
| [15:28:32] | wagnerrp: | yikes |
| [15:28:54] | mattwj2002: | 800 Mhz what the heck? |
| [15:28:56] | wagnerrp: | i would keep a close eye on those scheduler run times, throwing a cablecard tuner and a large cable lineup on such an underpowered machine |
| [15:29:27] | wagnerrp: | what kind of network? |
| [15:29:42] | mattwj2002: | copper |
| [15:29:47] | mattwj2002: | 1 Ghz |
| [15:29:51] | mattwj2002: | grr |
| [15:29:51] | wagnerrp: | i mean... gigabit? |
| [15:29:57] | mattwj2002: | 1 Gigabit yeah |
| [15:30:20] | wagnerrp: | if you were running 100mbit, i would suggest you were saturating it, and dropping packets from the HDHR |
| [15:30:24] | lpx: | How come it's at 780MHz, it should be 1.3GHz, no? |
| [15:30:53] | wagnerrp: | probably from Cool&Quiet |
| [15:31:00] | wagnerrp: | it's idle, so it downclocked itself |
| [15:31:14] | mattwj2002: | lpx that is what I saw from cpuinfo |
| [15:31:54] | mattwj2002: | should I elimate one two of my tuners? |
| [15:32:06] | mattwj2002: | my hdhomerun I mean |
| [15:32:10] | lpx: | ok, but it's dual core... shouldn't be that much of a tuner load, surely? (sorry, I'm a newbie) |
| [15:32:25] | wagnerrp: | recording isn't an issue, it's scheduling |
| [15:32:39] | mattwj2002: | what do you mean wagnerrp? |
| [15:32:59] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler is largely single threaded, is very intensive, and if it takes more than a minute to run, you're going to start getting complications with failed or delayed recordings |
| [15:33:24] | wagnerrp: | especially with the several hundred channel cable lineup a cablecard tuner throws into the mix |
| [15:33:40] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: I don't have a cablecard |
| [15:33:49] | wagnerrp: | then why have a DCR-2650? |
| [15:33:49] | mattwj2002: | I have 4 clear qam tuners |
| [15:34:04] | mattwj2002: | because I use to have a cablecard |
| [15:34:15] | mattwj2002: | I am just using it with clearqam |
| [15:34:55] | mattwj2002: | the recordings have a lot of blocks in the frame |
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| [15:35:44] | mattwj2002: | *frames |
| [15:44:31] | mattwj2002: | I think I'll cut back to just the wintv |
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| [15:49:45] | tonsofpcs: | do the recordings have a lot of blocks or does the playback have a lot of blocks? |
| [15:49:59] | mattwj2002: | playback |
| [15:50:32] | mattwj2002: | I could try on a different computer and make sure it isn't my playback system |
| [15:52:12] | mattwj2002: | tonsofpcs: |
| [15:52:35] | mattwj2002: | I noticed the blocks seem to appear when there are 4 recordings going on at once |
| [15:52:48] | mattwj2002: | like around 5 or 5:30 pm |
| [15:53:11] | mattwj2002: | if I try a recording at like 3:30 when there are only 2 recordings it seems fine |
| [15:58:12] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like you're overloading something, and dropping data |
| [15:58:18] | wagnerrp: | is this local or networked storage? |
| [15:58:46] | wagnerrp: | it could also mean your first device is working fine |
| [15:59:02] | wagnerrp: | but when you spill over onto the two tuners on the second device, those recordings have issues |
| [15:59:31] | mattwj2002: | local storage |
| [15:59:39] | wagnerrp: | i've got a script somewhere on the wiki that scans through your recent database logs, and tells you what input something was recording through |
| [16:00:12] | wagnerrp: | maybe it's not on the wiki |
| [16:00:30] | wagnerrp: | heres the old perl one that works off the file logs |
| [16:00:41] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Which_recorder.pl |
| [16:00:51] | wagnerrp: | it probably doesn't work with the newer logging format in 0.25+ |
| [16:01:00] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: |
| [16:01:06] | mattwj2002: | it is the recordings |
| [16:01:14] | wagnerrp: | https://github.com/wagnerrp/mythtv-scripts/bl . . . _recorder.py |
| [16:01:25] | mattwj2002: | I just played it on my laptop same issues |
| [16:01:33] | wagnerrp: | i'm not doubting that |
| [16:01:44] | mattwj2002: | huh? |
| [16:01:53] | wagnerrp: | i'm saying either something is getting overloaded, trying to handle the content of four simultaneous recordings |
| [16:02:14] | wagnerrp: | or... when you spill over onto the two tuners of the second device, that device itself is having issues and producing bad recordings |
| [16:02:34] | wagnerrp: | presumably you have the two HDHR tuners, and then the two DCR-2650 tuners |
| [16:02:38] | wagnerrp: | or the other way wround |
| [16:02:50] | mattwj2002: | DCR-2650 is first wagnerrp |
| [16:02:53] | wagnerrp: | meaning the two tuners on one of those devices are causing problems |
| [16:03:06] | wagnerrp: | if you know specifically what recordings have problems |
| [16:03:16] | wagnerrp: | that script will tell you what tuners those recordings were made on |
| [16:03:22] | wagnerrp: | for any recording made in the past two weeks |
| [16:03:51] | wagnerrp: | (since two weeks of logs are stored in the database) |
| [16:03:59] | mattwj2002: | nice |
| [16:04:02] | mattwj2002: | one second |
| [16:04:34] | wagnerrp: | you can run it on any machine with the python bindings installed. it doesn't need to be your master backend |
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| [16:04:50] | wagnerrp: | the two scripts are actually designed to be tied into the status information system |
| [16:05:06] | wagnerrp: | and its output appended to the bottom of the backend status page in mythweb |
| [16:05:16] | mattwj2002: | oh it outputs to html |
| [16:05:19] | mattwj2002: | one second |
| [16:06:01] | wagnerrp: | no, it can output to html |
| [16:06:14] | wagnerrp: | see --text and --html command line options |
| [16:06:29] | mattwj2002: | I got it |
| [16:06:32] | mattwj2002: | thanks :) |
| [16:06:45] | wagnerrp: | sphery: did anyone ever write a multiplexer for that? |
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| [16:07:02] | mattwj2002: | capature card 11 |
| [16:07:03] | mattwj2002: | hmm |
| [16:07:05] | mattwj2002: | one second |
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| [16:07:28] | mattwj2002: | that is my hdhomerun |
| [16:07:32] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [16:07:40] | wagnerrp: | what generation? |
| [16:07:54] | wagnerrp: | newer units have better tuners |
| [16:08:57] | mattwj2002: | I think first |
| [16:09:04] | mattwj2002: | hdhomerun dual |
| [16:09:21] | mattwj2002: | the white version with dual tuners |
| [16:10:28] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: what about hooking the hdhomerun directly to the pc? |
| [16:10:36] | mattwj2002: | using a usb nic? |
| [16:10:50] | wagnerrp: | should make no difference if you're actually on a gigabit network |
| [16:11:03] | mattwj2002: | I am wagnerrp |
| [16:11:15] | wagnerrp: | if anything, a USB NIC may actually cause more problems than it solves |
| [16:11:22] | mattwj2002: | oh yeah good point |
| [16:12:53] | mattwj2002: | so what is your suggestion? |
| [16:12:58] | mattwj2002: | replace the tuner? |
| [16:13:13] | mattwj2002: | yeah tuner 16 (hdhomerun) is doing the same thing |
| [16:13:46] | mattwj2002: | now lets see if tuners 1 and 6 is also breaking up in that timeframe |
| [16:15:34] | wagnerrp: | do you have any amps in the line? |
| [16:16:05] | mattwj2002: | yes I have one amp |
| [16:16:09] | mattwj2002: | for all of them |
| [16:16:28] | wagnerrp: | try removing it, and just using a splitter |
| [16:16:53] | wagnerrp: | cable lines are already fairly high power, since they're expected to drive several devices |
| [16:17:10] | mattwj2002: | oh crap |
| [16:17:13] | wagnerrp: | it's possible you're running that HDHR too hot |
| [16:17:28] | mattwj2002: | the hdhomerun is the issue |
| [16:17:36] | mattwj2002: | okay cool wagnerrp |
| [16:17:55] | mattwj2002: | I am watching a recording from the same time frame |
| [16:18:04] | mattwj2002: | on the wintv tuner it is fine |
| [16:21:34] | mattwj2002: | I'll have to purchase a divider or look in storage |
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| [16:23:30] | Oleg_: | schedulesdirect is not able to retrieve the programming guide info for channel 25.3 CUNY |
| [16:26:48] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: thanks for all your help |
| [16:26:50] | mattwj2002: | :) |
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| [17:58:15] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
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| [17:58:21] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: are you here? |
| [18:01:07] | mattwj2002: | The HDHomeRun PRIME has two clearqam tuners and one cablecard tuner right? |
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| [18:06:27] | gpd: | does UK freesat require a rescan? started to fail to record over last few days |
| [18:07:03] | sheppard: | tried to record manually? |
| [18:07:11] | sheppard: | just to make sure the cap card hasn't hung or anything silly |
| [18:07:30] | gpd: | not yet – had assumed someone on here would say that rescan required... |
| [18:19:30] | gpd: | looks like a kernel update / reboot might have reordered the pci cards and now one of the capture cards is not found |
| [18:21:55] | lpx: | wagnerrp, I created an input per LNB and everything seems great now. :) |
| [18:22:40] | wagnerrp: | you mean a video source per LNB? |
| [18:22:47] | lpx: | SOrry, yes. |
| [18:23:02] | wagnerrp: | yeah, not doing that would definitely cause problems |
| [18:23:12] | lpx: | Apparently. :) |
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| [18:30:41] | bitHipy: | when I run "mode2", i get "mode2: error opening /dev/lirc; mode2: No such file or directory" |
| [18:30:49] | bitHipy: | I have a /dev/lircd, but not a /dev/lirc |
| [18:31:00] | bitHipy: | how do I create /dev/lirc? |
| [18:31:37] | wagnerrp: | usually you have a /dev/lircN, for your various LIRC devices |
| [18:32:11] | wagnerrp: | however it's possible you don't have one, and are using devinput and something in /dev/input/eventN |
| [18:32:20] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure if mode2 will work with those kinds of devices |
| [18:32:25] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: i only have one lirc device |
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| [18:32:38] | ** bitHipy checks for /dev/input/eventN ** | |
| [18:32:38] | wagnerrp: | why are you using mode2? that's generally only a development/diagnostic tool |
| [18:34:26] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: ultimately i need to use irrecord.. but mode2 to diagnose irrecord |
| [18:35:04] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: i have /dev/input/eventN, but all those with symbolic links are pointing to mice and keyboards |
| [18:35:38] | wagnerrp: | those shouldn't be symbolic links. those should be character device nodes |
| [18:35:44] | bitHipy: | irrecord gives => irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
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| [18:36:29] | bitHipy: | the links are in /dev/input/by-path |
| [18:36:49] | wagnerrp: | and those should link back to device nodes in /dev/input/ |
| [18:37:27] | bitHipy: | yes.. but nothing points to anything lirc related |
| [18:38:27] | wagnerrp: | what device are you trying to use? |
| [18:38:56] | wagnerrp: | if there is no /dev/lircN or /dev/input/eventN, are you sure your device is even being recognized by the system? |
| [18:39:21] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: it's an iguanaworks IR transceiver (which sends signals fine.. just does not receive) |
| [18:40:16] | bitHipy: | there are /dev/input/event[0–12], but I don't see what they are associated with apart from the links in /dev/input/by-path |
| [18:41:22] | bitHipy: | i should add that the hardware came with test tools that show that it does in fact receive — it's just lirc that cannot receive |
| [18:42:04] | wagnerrp: | the devices will be at nodes 13:64, 13:65, and so on |
| [18:42:33] | wagnerrp: | look in /sys/dev/char/13:N/device |
| [18:42:44] | wagnerrp: | for example... cat /sys/dev/char/13:67/device/name |
| [18:42:52] | wagnerrp: | Media Center Ed. eHome Infrared Remote Transceiver (1784:0008) |
| [18:45:16] | bitHipy: | nothing in there stands out.. but perhaps it cryptically named |
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| [18:46:51] | bitHipy: | if I do lsusb, i see that the IR device is "Bus 005 Device 006" |
| [18:47:39] | wagnerrp: | then try in /sys/bus/usb/devices |
| [18:47:46] | wagnerrp: | you should see something related to that |
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| [18:48:01] | wagnerrp: | like 5–0:6.0 or something |
| [18:49:29] | bitHipy: | i have /sys/bus/usb/devices/6–0:1.0 -> ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb6/6–0:1.0 |
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| [18:50:14] | bitHipy: | and /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb6 -> ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb6 |
| [18:50:27] | bitHipy: | those are the only lines that contain a "6" |
| [18:50:28] | wagnerrp: | usb6 is the root hub |
| [18:56:14] | wagnerrp: | if you're transmitting, you have to have a /dev/lircN somewhere, right? |
| [18:57:14] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: i have /dev/lircd |
| [18:57:26] | wagnerrp: | lircd is just the daemon socket |
| [18:57:35] | wagnerrp: | it processes and multiplexes out the signals for other applications to use |
| [18:57:44] | wagnerrp: | you have to have a separate node for the actual device |
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| [19:00:22] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: when I send a signal, this is logged in syslog => accepted new client on /dev/lircd; removed client |
| [19:00:36] | wagnerrp: | sure, but lircd has to send it somewhere |
| [19:01:33] | bitHipy: | guess i need more verbos logging |
| [19:01:43] | wagnerrp: | just look at your lircd configs |
| [19:01:49] | wagnerrp: | what is it configured to use to transmit? |
| [19:02:03] | wagnerrp: | you probably specify the node on the command line when you run it |
| [19:03:25] | bitHipy: | i run "irsend SEND_ONCE <my device> power" (for example) |
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| [19:04:18] | bitHipy: | my configs actually have => DEVICE="" |
| [19:04:52] | bitHipy: | so no device configured.. but there is a driver reference => DRIVER="iguanaIR" |
| [19:05:09] | Oleg_: | int64_t in the mythtv code is the same thing as unsigned int? |
| [19:05:16] | bitHipy: | that's the only thing interesting in hardware.conf |
| [19:05:29] | wagnerrp: | no, it's a long int |
| [19:05:36] | wagnerrp: | if it were unsigned, it would be uint64_t |
| [19:06:39] | Oleg_: | so, every time a compiler complains int64_t was undeclared, we could add typed long int int64_t to the code? |
| [19:06:50] | Oleg_: | typedef |
| [19:06:55] | Oleg_: | not typed |
| [19:07:13] | wagnerrp: | every time a compiler complains int64_t was undeclared, it's because some system library was not properly included |
| [19:07:37] | wagnerrp: | int64_t should be a standard type on any OS mythtv compiles on |
| [19:08:09] | wagnerrp: | s/system library/system header/ |
| [19:09:23] | Oleg_: | well, adding typedef statements to the code would resolve the problem even if some library header wasn't included? |
| [19:10:02] | wagnerrp: | no. adding typedef statements to the code would likely just result in other strange and inexplicable bugs showing up at some point down the line |
| [19:10:58] | wagnerrp: | types should only be defined once. doing otherwise is just asking for trouble |
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| [19:17:40] | chronic1: | howdy |
| [19:18:47] | chronic1: | While browsing the MythTV manual/FAQ, I found a link to a hardware database. Is that site still active & maintained? |
| [19:19:01] | wagnerrp: | smolt? |
| [19:19:10] | wagnerrp: | http://smolt.mythtv.org/ |
| [19:20:29] | chronic1: | wagnerrp: nah, http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/ |
| [19:21:08] | wagnerrp: | sounds like something from 2005 or so |
| [19:21:44] | chronic1: | BRB — was hoping to get an idea on what hardware I'd need to handle the use cases (especially hoping to avoid buying something that won't do what I need it to do) |
| [19:21:46] | wagnerrp: | what hardware in particular were you looking for information on? |
| [19:21:47] | bitHipy: | wagnerrp: these iguanair devices might be a bit different.. iguanair has its own daemon, and lircd connects to "igdaemon", and igdaemon talks to the hardware |
| [19:22:06] | wagnerrp: | you'll have to explain those special use cases |
| [19:24:05] | chronic1: | quad-core i5 (3.6 GHz), 16 GB ram, HD4000 graphics (nvidia discrete if needed), 128 GB SSD for real-time, 3 TB caviar green for long-term storage, ASUS blu-ray, ceton infinitv 4 capture card |
| [19:24:31] | wagnerrp: | yes. mythtv would have no trouble operating on that hardware |
| [19:24:50] | wagnerrp: | assuming your cable provider was one that provided most to all of its encrypted content as drm-free |
| [19:24:55] | chronic1: | Making sure that I'd be able to utilize all of the tuners without limitation on that hardware (limitation doesn't include the DRM stuff) |
| [19:25:30] | chronic1: | Atl, GA (comcast)...they seem mostly copy-free at the moment |
| [19:25:40] | wagnerrp: | usually all but the premiums |
| [19:26:05] | chronic1: | HBO is the only premium I have, and I'll be able to use HBO GO (since the gf & I don't actually use HBO live) |
| [19:26:30] | chronic1: | Damn Sunday night shift prevents any Game of Thrones watching. |
| [19:27:18] | chronic1: | wagnerrp: so that hardware should be more than enough to utilize all 4 tuners at the same time? Mainly concerned about Thursday nights: Grey's; Person of Interest; College & Pro Football |
| [19:27:36] | wagnerrp: | digital recordings really don't take much CPU |
| [19:27:48] | wagnerrp: | they're already compressed, so all you're doing is shuffling data around |
| [19:28:21] | wagnerrp: | aside from batch processing (like commercial flagging and transcoding) or live streaming (more transcoding), the only thing the backend does that requires a CPU is guide data handling |
| [19:28:31] | wagnerrp: | it needs to be able to process new guide data in a timely manner |
| [19:28:33] | chronic1: | In the case of a torc client (transcoded streamed video), would I still be ok? |
| [19:28:39] | wagnerrp: | it needs to be able to run the scheduler in a timely manner |
| [19:29:09] | wagnerrp: | and any i5 should be plenty for timely scheduler runs on even the largest lineups |
| [19:29:17] | wagnerrp: | especially considering your database will be on that SSD |
| [19:29:30] | chronic1: | I was hoping the SSD would help with the live stuff. |
| [19:29:57] | chronic1: | And the recording jazz could be moved to the HD (later to be upgraded to a GigE NAS device) |
| [19:30:20] | wagnerrp: | it can, and it can help with recordings too, but understand that there is no built in mechanism to facilitate transferring recordings from one drive to the next |
| [19:30:24] | wagnerrp: | you would have to do that manually |
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| [19:30:38] | chronic1: | I'll write a script/batch job for that. |
| [19:30:41] | wagnerrp: | is this machine sitting in your living room or something? |
| [19:31:01] | chronic1: | Yes. I have a little condo...no room for a separate media closet. |
| [19:31:30] | chronic1: | The living room will have a mythtv backend & frontend; the bedroom will have some other client to interact with the HTPC. |
| [19:31:35] | wagnerrp: | i mean normally, the only reason to bother with a NAS is so that you don't have a big box with a bunch of hard drives sitting in front of your tv |
| [19:31:58] | wagnerrp: | but if the NAS is going to be there as well, no reason to spend the money on a NAS, as opposed to just stuffing it all in that server |
| [19:32:13] | chronic1: | But the amenities level is fairly close to my unit, and I'd be able to leach from my wifi on a treadmil. |
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| [19:32:53] | chronic1: | I wanted the NAS for when I move...just a purchase in advance. |
| [19:33:00] | wagnerrp: | you absolutely do not want to be recording over wifi |
| [19:33:42] | chronic1: | The wifi will only be for a client. All of the recording, transcoding, storing will be happening on the wired LAN. |
| [19:34:24] | wagnerrp: | wifi for a client is iffy, but you at least won't be damaging recordings when your network drops out |
| [19:35:51] | chronic1: | Absolutely... The ideal setup for the client will be a backend doing all of the critical processing & sending data which will be expected to fail from time to time to the end user. |
| [19:35:55] | chronic1: | BRB |
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| [20:41:43] | Oleg_: | how do I change skins in mythtv? I am tired of the default brown skin |
| [20:41:56] | wagnerrp: | in settings, in the theme chooser |
| [20:45:24] | Oleg_: | oh, nice, thanks |
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| [21:02:01] | Oleg_: | I wonder why mythtv reverts to using the tuner it's recording some program with after I switch to a different tuner and then type the number of some channel |
| [21:07:33] | Oleg_: | for example, I record 11_1, then go to sources, change input to a different tuner, so live tv changes to channel 2_1, but then I type the name of some channel, it goes back to channel 11_1 and the previous input |
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| [21:08:00] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
| [21:08:06] | Oleg_: | if I don't type the name of channel, but use up and down arrows, it doesn't switch to the old input |
| [21:08:30] | mattwj2002: | so |
| [21:08:45] | mattwj2002: | the hdhomerun prime has 2 clearqam tuners and one cable card? |
| [21:09:20] | mattwj2002: | or can it be three clear qam? |
| [21:11:46] | mattwj2002: | weird Oleg_ |
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| [21:15:55] | wagnerrp: | mattwj2002: incorrect |
| [21:16:08] | mattwj2002: | which one? |
| [21:16:13] | wagnerrp: | the hdhomerun prime has three tuners, that can either be routed through the cablecard, or used for clearqam |
| [21:16:39] | mattwj2002: | so could you have 3 cablecard streams? |
| [21:16:39] | wagnerrp: | they're all either one mode or the other, determined by whether a cablecard has been slotted into the unit |
| [21:17:15] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [21:17:22] | mattwj2002: | nice |
| [21:17:29] | wagnerrp: | each cablecard supports up to 6 simultaneous streams |
| [21:17:42] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: I am looking at getting a different tuner |
| [21:17:45] | Guest74304: | Hi, I am running v26 using an HDhomerun prime for the tuner. Some HD channels don't record, however I can tune to them via live TV and then hit 'r' and they will record. How do I track down what is going on? |
| [21:17:52] | wagnerrp: | the -2650 supports 2, the prime supports 3, the infinitv supports 4 |
| [21:18:04] | mattwj2002: | infinitv? |
| [21:18:06] | mattwj2002: | hmmm |
| [21:19:45] | mattwj2002: | the infinitv? pcie version or usb version? |
| [21:25:05] | mattwj2002: | oh the usb version has bad reviews |
| [21:25:06] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [21:25:39] | mattwj2002: | I am trying to decide |
| [21:25:56] | mattwj2002: | -2650, prime or infinitv |
| [21:26:17] | mattwj2002: | I need something with a cable card in case I have to switch to that in the future |
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| [21:30:28] | mattwj2002: | I see they have a 3250 now too |
| [21:31:12] | Guest74304: | I haven't found anything in the wiki or via google. |
| [21:31:22] | mattwj2002: | on what? |
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| [21:31:34] | mattwj2002: | oh wait |
| [21:31:48] | mattwj2002: | Guest74304: one second |
| [21:32:50] | mattwj2002: | http://www.silicondust.com/support/hdhomerun/ . . . e-changelog/ |
| [21:33:01] | mattwj2002: | All models: Fix issue causing video glitching on some channels when used with MythTV 0.25 and later. |
| [21:33:11] | mattwj2002: | no idea if that is related |
| [21:33:19] | mattwj2002: | just thought I would pass that along |
| [21:38:50] | mattwj2002: | wow quiet room this afternoon :) |
| [21:39:02] | mattwj2002: | everyone must be watching tv |
| [21:39:03] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [21:40:36] | Guest74304: | mattwj2002, i'll check that out, thanx |
| [21:40:51] | mattwj2002: | no problem Guest74304 |
| [21:41:04] | mattwj2002: | I have no idea if it is your issue...just thought I would mention it |
| [21:41:13] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [21:42:05] | mattwj2002: | I am tryin to decide between 2650 or hdhomerun prime |
| [21:42:21] | Guest74304: | mattwj2002, it was a good try, but the web page of my prime says it has that version |
| [21:42:30] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [21:42:32] | mattwj2002: | bummer |
| [21:43:38] | Guest74304: | gotta dash, afk, bbl |
| [21:43:53] | mattwj2002: | okay bye Guest74304 |
| [21:50:38] | mattwj2002: | brb |
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| [21:55:00] | mattwj2002: | I am back |
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| [22:23:36] | mattwj2002: | hi tlhiv_laptop |
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| [23:00:18] | justinh: | oh wow. my hatred for the guy I inherited this shop from has deepened even more |
| [23:01:01] | mattwj2002: | what is up justinh? |
| [23:01:08] | justinh: | been trying all day to find out why a module didn't wanna install.. turned out to be attributes missing from the database, normally added during an upgrade or an install. |
| [23:01:34] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [23:02:08] | justinh: | mind, PrestaShop have some God awful code in there. Like an if which is about 21 items (database hooks) long, all ANDed. One fails, the install fails. No indication to the user as to why |
| [23:02:23] | mattwj2002: | :( |
| [23:02:30] | mattwj2002: | sounds crappy! |
| [23:02:38] | justinh: | I was bored tonight & broke it down & put some echos in there.. |
| [23:02:56] | justinh: | found the problem, inserted the missing things into the db.. and bing! |
| [23:02:59] | justinh: | she works now :-D |
| [23:03:13] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [23:03:39] | ** mattwj2002 prefers google to bing ** | |
| [23:03:40] | mattwj2002: | ;) |
| [23:03:40] | justinh: | so very soon customers will be able to filter by product attributes while they're browsing |
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| [23:04:14] | mattwj2002: | nice justinh |
| [23:04:15] | justinh: | I'm slightly worried about stuff being missing from the database though. we might just be very lucky it works at all |
| [23:04:43] | mattwj2002: | that is all computing though |
| [23:04:51] | mattwj2002: | it is amazing this stuff works at all |
| [23:04:55] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:05:08] | justinh: | like it might've been an update from < 1.4.5.x to 1.4.8.3 which went wrong & the only schema changes were the missing things |
| [23:05:13] | mattwj2002: | considering the millions of lines of code |
| [23:05:24] | justinh: | HDDs fill me with awe more than any other computer thing |
| [23:05:41] | mattwj2002: | in what regard? |
| [23:05:44] | justinh: | the forces involved, and the (apparent lack of) finesse in the mechanics |
| [23:05:55] | mattwj2002: | I hear that |
| [23:06:11] | mattwj2002: | Trillions of bits in one hd |
| [23:06:22] | mattwj2002: | quite impressive |
| [23:06:30] | justinh: | like you're winging a massive crane across the top of a car park at 2000mph, and stop to pick up a grain of rice |
| [23:06:40] | mattwj2002: | hehe |
| [23:07:24] | justinh: | mind, the whole electrons travelling across gaps thing that transistors do.. I never really *got* that |
| [23:07:56] | justinh: | I guess chips & all that are pretty awesome too |
| [23:08:07] | mattwj2002: | justinh: you know what I like? |
| [23:08:16] | mattwj2002: | raspberry pis for mythtv frontends |
| [23:08:21] | mattwj2002: | using openelec |
| [23:08:29] | mattwj2002: | it actually works quite well |
| [23:08:57] | justinh: | if it actually works, yay |
| [23:09:04] | justinh: | I don't like XBMC much |
| [23:09:24] | justinh: | I've still got my pi, somewhere |
| [23:09:47] | mattwj2002: | justinh: I have watched a lot of video on mine |
| [23:09:53] | mattwj2002: | did you buy the codecs? |
| [23:09:59] | mattwj2002: | the codecs make or break it |
| [23:10:20] | justinh: | no, I didn't. |
| [23:10:27] | justinh: | I've never seen video output from mine |
| [23:10:30] | justinh: | prolly never will |
| [23:10:43] | justinh: | connected power, network.. and my IR blaster |
| [23:10:56] | justinh: | homebrewed IR blaster, mind |
| [23:11:07] | mattwj2002: | justinh: I can get 1080i out of it with the codecs |
| [23:11:11] | mattwj2002: | not much without |
| [23:11:43] | mattwj2002: | it actually works as a better video decoder than my backend |
| [23:11:44] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:12:27] | justinh: | how's the UI though? |
| [23:12:42] | justinh: | last time I saw XBMC on a pi it was... not quite fluid |
| [23:12:43] | mattwj2002: | the UI is good |
| [23:12:55] | mattwj2002: | not perfect |
| [23:12:58] | mattwj2002: | I won't lie |
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| [23:13:21] | mattwj2002: | but it works well enough that I have considering getting another pi or two for my other tvs |
| [23:13:49] | justinh: | every time I go to try XBMC on a PC it bloody crashes. I've yet to see whether it can actually work as a reasonable frontend in terms of navigating things to watch |
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| [23:14:11] | justinh: | if it's one big long list or bust, it'll never figure |
| [23:14:23] | mattwj2002: | justinh: the codecs make a different and openelec over raspbmc makes a different too |
| [23:14:31] | mattwj2002: | *difference |
| [23:14:55] | justinh: | yes, but just browsing content with xbmc on my laptop, say.. is awful |
| [23:15:11] | justinh: | I've never known a program fall over so much |
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| [23:15:23] | mattwj2002: | I don't know |
| [23:15:32] | justinh: | note it may not have actually hung, but if I have to wait 30s for anything to happen I'll be damned |
| [23:15:35] | mattwj2002: | it works well for me....maybe not for everyone :) |
| [23:16:00] | mattwj2002: | I do need a wireless keyboard |
| [23:16:01] | justinh: | anyway, we've not got a HDTV |
| [23:16:09] | mattwj2002: | O.o |
| [23:16:19] | mattwj2002: | this is 2013 not 1993 :P |
| [23:16:23] | justinh: | :-P |
| [23:16:39] | justinh: | people prone to throwing away perfectly working things in 1993 too? |
| [23:16:43] | mattwj2002: | is your TV even in color ;) |
| [23:16:54] | mattwj2002: | I agree justinh |
| [23:17:04] | mattwj2002: | if you don't mind a CRT |
| [23:17:11] | justinh: | I made the move to 16:9 early on, but HD doesn't have much to offer me |
| [23:17:17] | mattwj2002: | there are some amazing used TV available |
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| [23:17:46] | mattwj2002: | good will |
| [23:17:51] | justinh: | we'll have to wait til the kids are older anyway |
| [23:18:00] | justinh: | there's no knocking a 32" CRT over |
| [23:18:06] | mattwj2002: | hehe |
| [23:18:12] | justinh: | or if they do, they dead, baby |
| [23:18:20] | mattwj2002: | O.o |
| [23:18:30] | justinh: | I mean if it lands on em |
| [23:18:37] | mattwj2002: | I got it |
| [23:18:57] | justinh: | mind, there was a story in the press over here not long back where a woman DROPPED an LCD TV onto her baby |
| [23:19:02] | justinh: | baby died :-/ |
| [23:19:12] | mattwj2002: | poor kid :( |
| [23:19:15] | justinh: | she was off her nuts on crack or somesuch |
| [23:19:42] | mattwj2002: | stupid people! |
| [23:19:47] | justinh: | tell you.. those kind of stories used to appall me before i had kids.. now I just feel sick to the stomach |
| [23:20:05] | mattwj2002: | that makes sense |
| [23:20:08] | justinh: | anyway.. no HDTV for us til the CRT dies |
| [23:20:17] | justinh: | might not be long, I dunno |
| [23:20:23] | ** mattwj2002 buys justinh a Wii ** | |
| [23:20:24] | mattwj2002: | ;) |
| [23:20:32] | mattwj2002: | have you seen those videos? |
| [23:20:43] | justinh: | we have one. It's only spent about 6 months out of its box |
| [23:20:48] | mattwj2002: | people putting holes in their TVs |
| [23:20:53] | justinh: | the bleep bloop UI does my HEAD in |
| [23:21:04] | mattwj2002: | yeah my Wii is not in use either |
| [23:21:07] | justinh: | if there's ANY way you can turn that stuff off I need to know |
| [23:21:29] | justinh: | printing stuff onto the screen a character at a time while going "bloop bleep bloop bloop" is NOT nice |
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| [23:21:51] | mattwj2002: | mario? :P |
| [23:21:59] | justinh: | all the games I've seen do that |
| [23:22:14] | mattwj2002: | weird |
| [23:22:22] | mattwj2002: | sounds like some sort of defect |
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| [23:22:49] | mattwj2002: | yeah justinh I need another mythtv tuner |
| [23:22:50] | justinh: | no, the whole Wii UI is for idiots or something |
| [23:23:00] | mattwj2002: | my hdhomerun finally is dieing |
| [23:23:12] | justinh: | the bleep bloop sounds are just... gah. |
| [23:23:17] | mattwj2002: | hehe |
| [23:24:10] | louisdk: | Hi. I'm planning om moving my backend to another machine. From a combi fe/be ubuntu to a single be debian. Is it possible to export the channel info from the old be to the new one? |
| [23:24:11] | mattwj2002: | I am not sure if I want a hdhomerun dual or a wintv-dcr-2650 |
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| [23:24:45] | mattwj2002: | or a prime but a prime is more than I want to spend |
| [23:24:59] | justinh: | those things not have like.. warranty & stuff? |
| [23:25:16] | mattwj2002: | justinh: I doubt mine does |
| [23:25:23] | mattwj2002: | I have had it for years literally |
| [23:25:34] | justinh: | is all that stuff so old already? Wow |
| [23:25:55] | mattwj2002: | one second |
| [23:25:58] | mattwj2002: | let me check |
| [23:26:21] | justinh: | I'm getting to the point where if I have to spend more than 2 years' subscription costs on capture hardware.. I'll just go with the propriatary tech |
| [23:27:06] | mattwj2002: | oh my goodness |
| [23:27:19] | mattwj2002: | I bought it in 2007 :) |
| [23:27:23] | justinh: | heh |
| [23:27:33] | mattwj2002: | $170 usd |
| [23:27:42] | mattwj2002: | wow I can't believe that |
| [23:28:09] | mattwj2002: | yeah I'll call them and see if they'll replace it |
| [23:28:10] | mattwj2002: | ;) |
| [23:28:14] | mattwj2002: | jk |
| [23:28:57] | mattwj2002: | yeah I have this tuner from the middle of last decade will you replace it |
| [23:28:58] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [23:29:18] | mattwj2002: | I might as well ask them for a replacement for my wintv-pvr-500 |
| [23:34:23] | justinh: | they're talking about making everything currently FTV over here pay to access :-( |
| [23:34:44] | justinh: | and I can bet there'd be no CAMs fer it |
| [23:36:35] | mattwj2002: | that is like here |
| [23:36:54] | mattwj2002: | FCC last summer approved pulling clear qam if the cable providers want |
| [23:37:00] | mattwj2002: | so far I still have it |
| [23:37:30] | mattwj2002: | that is why I am looking at tuners with cable cards |
| [23:41:45] | mattwj2002: | justinh: what bad thing about openelec |
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| [23:41:50] | mattwj2002: | probably the worse part |
| [23:42:08] | mattwj2002: | the program list doesn't update unless you restart the box |
| [23:42:16] | mattwj2002: | the box being the pi not the backend |
| [23:42:46] | mattwj2002: | that is only for the recordings not live tv |
| [23:43:17] | justinh: | eew |
| [23:43:46] | mattwj2002: | yeah isn't that a nasty bug? |
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| [23:44:09] | wagnerrp: | presumably you could just restart the application, not the whole box |
| [23:45:03] | mattwj2002: | true |
| [23:45:20] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: it makes a good frontend otherwise :) |
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| [23:46:34] | wagnerrp: | that's debatable |
| [23:47:27] | mattwj2002: | of course maybe I should rephrase that |
| [23:47:38] | mattwj2002: | I like it as a frontend |
| [23:48:56] | mattwj2002: | it is amazing a $35 computer can play video like this |
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