| Friday, April 12th, 2013, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:15] | wagnerrp: | no need to forward anything |
| [00:00:18] | hipitihop: | ok running setup now and in general there is option on last page "Automatically update program listings" which is turned off, is that normal ? |
| [00:00:24] | wagnerrp: | X is already transported over the network |
| [00:00:50] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i'm not sure what the defaults are |
| [00:01:00] | wagnerrp: | it's been 6+ years since i've seen them |
| [00:01:45] | hipitihop: | not that long for me, probably 3 years, but equally rusty hence my questions, hope I'm not annoying |
| [00:06:23] | hipitihop: | can't find anything obvious which suggest what's running, front of general tab mentions timezone for xmltv, and that option mentioned earlier, is this likely somethign setup as chron job or the like |
| [00:17:44] | sphery: | "Automatically update program listings" means run mythfilldatabase, which is only used with XMLTV or Schedules Direct--if you're using EIT/on-air program guide and not XMLTV/SD, you don't want to run mythfilldatabase |
| [00:18:37] | sphery: | hipitihop: and, since you're in Australia, you're likely running shepherd (sp?) which does things outside of mythtv because they didn't make it standard with xmltv |
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| [00:19:18] | sphery: | and, IIRC, shepherd sets up some cron job to do the updates, and you can't use the "Automatically update program listings" option with it |
| [00:20:06] | hipitihop: | sphery, the Automatic update option is off in my mythtv-setup last page |
| [00:21:43] | hipitihop: | only chron entry I can find is: 4 * * * * nice /usr/bin/mythfilldatabase --graboptions '--daily' |
| [00:23:55] | hipitihop: | there is definitely a /.shepherd/ digging deeper |
| [00:36:08] | sphery: | hipitihop: yeah, it's most likely what you're using, but I've told you everything I know about it, so far |
| [00:36:20] | sphery: | you probably know more about it than I do by this point |
| [00:36:38] | hipitihop: | thanks sphery, and wagnerrp, digging deeper. http://svn.whuffy.com/ |
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| [21:07:14] | chronic1: | Is there a locking mechanism for tuners? I'm going to have a few different users interacting with the PVR backend, and I'd like to avoid a user hijacking a currently used tuner. |
| [21:25:55] | justinh: | delete the 'watch TV' menu item. Works for me |
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| [21:29:58] | justinh: | oh FFS! grepping the code for blocklayered & this thing has 1.5 code in it :-\ This, being the thing I inherited |
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| [21:34:02] | justinh: | so it's PS 1.4.8, with a module from 1.5. At least one module. Damnit. I HATE that guy |
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| [22:45:24] | wizbit: | for some strange reason, mythtv will not use the correct aspect ratio for bbc channels |
| [22:45:45] | wizbit: | it was working ok before i upgraded to 26 stable |
| [22:45:55] | wizbit: | do i need to clear a cache? |
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| [22:47:12] | wizbit: | actually its ok now |
| [22:47:17] | wizbit: | must of been the broadcast |
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| [22:56:16] | wagnerrp: | chronic1: yes. tuners are locked to a single session, for as long as that session is in progress |
| [22:56:36] | wagnerrp: | there are some options concerning live users commandeering tuners from recordings, and visa versa |
| [22:56:42] | wagnerrp: | but one user cannot take a tuner from another |
| [22:56:53] | wagnerrp: | now there are some complications when you get into digital tuners and "multirec" |
| [22:57:07] | wagnerrp: | each physical tuner shows up as one or more virtual tuners, which can be used independently |
| [22:57:34] | wagnerrp: | however those virtual tuners can only change channel among the streams available on the currently tuned physical channel |
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| [22:58:06] | wagnerrp: | (if two users are using two virtual tuners on the same physical tuner) |
| [22:58:37] | wagnerrp: | in such a case, one user will have to force mythtv to change to another physical tuner before either will be able to change off that physical channel (multiplex) |
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| [23:06:41] | sid3windr: | on a completely unrelated note, wtf is "must of been" |
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| [23:10:39] | wagnerrp: | sounds like the ingredient of some magical potion |
| [23:15:21] | wagnerrp: | justinh; usually people need some form of context to such a comment |
| [23:15:35] | wizbit: | </must of been> |
| [23:15:51] | wagnerrp: | yes... he's asking what that means |
| [23:17:29] | wagnerrp: | those are all english words, but strung together like that, they have no meaning |
| [23:17:51] | wagnerrp: | you're lacking a verb |
| [23:19:38] | justinh: | wagnerrp: oops. wrong channel.. ahem |
| [23:19:49] | RagingMind: | ... "been" is a verb |
| [23:19:57] | justinh: | wagnerrp: bitching about this webshop I inherited from a 'designer' |
| [23:20:19] | justinh: | it's been all kinds of broken. Not broken enough to not work, but enough to be frustrating & annoying |
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| [23:20:43] | wagnerrp: | no it isn't |
| [23:21:15] | justinh: | verb == *doing* word |
| [23:21:19] | justinh: | being isn't doing |
| [23:21:29] | justinh: | whatever tense you're talking about |
| [23:22:05] | wagnerrp: | unless you're a redneck |
| [23:22:17] | wagnerrp: | I been down by the crick fishin' |
| [23:22:42] | RagingMind: | it's the past participle of "to be" |
| [23:23:07] | wagnerrp: | no it isn't |
| [23:23:23] | wagnerrp: | maybe if you added a "have" in there... |
| [23:23:23] | RagingMind: | me thinks you should pause to google this |
| [23:23:48] | sid3windr: | googling language abuse, good one. because the internet can spell! ;) |
| [23:24:16] | RagingMind: | You've swallowed your foot and if you keep going you might start choking on your knee |
| [23:24:29] | justinh: | "must of been".. typical Sun reader use of language |
| [23:24:40] | wagnerrp: | i googled language abuse and found this... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FYLryWqb3J0/S8TQKrF . . . -abuse-2.jpg |
| [23:24:43] | justinh: | of/have.. not interchangeable. Like you're/your .. |
| [23:25:39] | sid3windr: | more like "day/banana" |
| [23:25:56] | RagingMind: | you're right that the phrase should read "must have been" |
| [23:25:58] | wagnerrp: | I ate a day tobanana! |
| [23:26:12] | RagingMind: | but "been" is a verb |
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| [23:26:30] | wagnerrp: | try to use it as a verb without "have" |
| [23:26:47] | justinh: | it are not a werb without "have" :D |
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| [23:26:52] | sid3windr: | maybe in america it is, in the rest of the world, a verb fits after "to" |
| [23:26:56] | sid3windr: | ie, to run is a verb |
| [23:26:57] | sid3windr: | to been is not |
| [23:27:17] | wagnerrp: | I been runnin' tobanana! |
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| [23:29:37] | RagingMind: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participle |
| [23:32:15] | wagnerrp: | again, "been" cannot be used without some form of "have" |
| [23:32:24] | wagnerrp: | it's only part of the compound word |
| [23:32:31] | RagingMind: | and your point would be? |
| [23:32:40] | wagnerrp: | "been" by itself is nothing |
| [23:32:47] | wagnerrp: | it's not proper english |
| [23:33:24] | wagnerrp: | has, have, having... it has to be there if you're going to use "been" |
| [23:33:30] | RagingMind: | <RagingMind> you're right that the phrase should read "must have been" |
| [23:33:44] | RagingMind: | oh to copy and paste myself... *Sigh* |
| [23:34:00] | wagnerrp: | but you're still claiming "been" by itself is a verb |
| [23:34:05] | wagnerrp: | it's not. it's nothing |
| [23:35:15] | RagingMind: | it is a verb |
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| [23:45:15] | RagingMind: | this should help http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/verbs-verb-forms_main.htm |
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| [23:48:20] | wagnerrp: | but "been" is not the past participle |
| [23:48:31] | wagnerrp: | "has/have/having been" is the past participle |
| [23:48:48] | wagnerrp: | the one cannot exist without the other |
| [23:49:19] | wagnerrp: | so the full phrase counts as that declension |
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| [23:50:39] | RagingMind: | "have" is its own verb |
| [23:50:53] | wagnerrp: | correct, but "been" cannot be used without "have" |
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| [23:55:03] | RagingMind: | I had been willing to continue this debate, but my stomach is growling and I must eat. |
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