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Friday, April 5th, 2013, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:33] Seeker: hmm, not sure why it takes 3–4 seconds to find a new chapter on this mkv
[00:00:54] wagnerrp: well seeking in general is a crapshoot
[00:01:21] wagnerrp: you make a guess, start reading data, check the timecodes, try again
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[00:01:35] wagnerrp: that's why mythtv builds seektables for recordings to allow rapid, accurate seeks
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[00:02:34] Seeker: wagnerrp: yeah, but why is VLC / XBMC so much better with the same file?
[00:03:18] wagnerrp: it could be they're satisfied with good enough, while mythtv thinks it needs to find the exact frame
[00:03:29] wagnerrp: i don't know enough about the decoder to say
[00:04:14] wagnerrp: stichnot and taylorr have most recently worked on that stuff
[00:04:37] wagnerrp: i know one of them did a lot of work to improve seeking performance of mpeg video without seek tables, don't recall which off hand
[00:05:49] Seeker: wagnerrp: worth me leaving a message in #mythtv
[00:06:16] Seeker: ?
[00:06:25] wagnerrp: don't know
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[01:23:15] sphery: Seeker: make sure there's no seek table for the mkv--having a seektable with mkv makes seeking terrible (since it's always wrong, since we don't support making seek tables for the format)
[01:23:56] Seeker: sphery: how do I look for seek tables for something that isn't a recording?
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[01:50:07] Seeker: sphery: I can't find anything in the filemarkup table which matches any of the files exhibiting this behaviour
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[02:10:53] tgm4883: wagnerrp, yep, it's kinda neat
[02:11:02] tgm4883: I really had to speed it up though for a project this old
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[02:32:58] mattwj2002: howdy guys
[02:33:08] mattwj2002: mythtv for windows?
[02:33:20] mattwj2002: what is the scoop on that?
[02:33:22] mattwj2002: :)
[02:44:04] wagnerrp: you'll have to be more specific
[02:44:16] wagnerrp: it's mythtv, compiled for windows...
[02:45:13] Seeker: if I had to describe mythtv for windows in terms of scoops, it would be 2 scoops of mint choc chip ice cream.
[02:47:10] ** wagnerrp wonders why his internet is so painfully slow **
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[02:47:33] mattwj2002: thanks Seeker
[02:47:35] mattwj2002: :)
[02:47:46] Seeker: you're welcome. And with that, to bed!
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[02:54:03] tonsofpcs: oo, I want two scoops of mint choc chip
[02:54:34] wagnerrp: i always preferred cookie dough chip
[02:58:07] wagnerrp: oh intel, why are you still so backwards with regards to ECC...
[02:58:53] mattwj2002: how about some cherry nut?
[02:59:09] wagnerrp: nah. no hard stuff in ice cream
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[10:03:27] Lomion0815: Need some help with a user job using python bindings: since i switch to 0.26 i have to use %starttimeutc to access recorded data in python ...
[10:05:30] Lomion0815: But it returns now the utc time with an offset for summertime even for recording which i recorded while in wintertime ...
[10:07:19] sphery: Lomion0815: are you using the most-current 0.26-fixes? IIRC there was a bug like that fixed just a short while ago.
[10:12:34] Lomion0815: I am using the most-current
[10:12:55] Lomion0815: Can you point me to the bug report?
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[10:24:34] Solaris444: Hey guys, that guide I found the other day has been updated!
[10:25:34] Solaris444: http://www.nanoscale.com.au/navigation/articl . . . 13-part1.php
[10:25:40] Solaris444: There's 4 parts.
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[10:51:44] justinh: that's got to be the 1st time anybody's ever pointed to a guide in here, referring to opensuse :-)
[10:52:06] justinh: what a refreshing change
[10:52:22] justinh: it's all *buntu this, *buntu that, these days :-\
[10:56:44] Solaris444: Yeah, I noticed.
[10:57:12] Solaris444: I've been an opensuse user for some time, so it was right up my alley.
[10:57:21] Solaris444: Better hardware support and more sane UI imho.
[10:57:41] wagnerrp: meh. was never a fan of YAST
[10:57:58] justinh: Torc? God, is that still going? Heh
[10:58:16] justinh: wagnerrp: it's better than uhhh.. NOTHING on *buntu server
[11:00:22] justinh: we only recommend Ubuntu Server to our customers now, and they have *serious* problems doing stuff like setting a fixed IP address etc
[11:00:51] wagnerrp: heh
[11:01:19] justinh: not that YAST is the most intuitive UI in the world, but it's better than vi'ing files in /etc
[11:01:30] ** wagnerrp uses vim **
[11:01:43] justinh: is there much difference?
[11:01:54] wagnerrp: there's an 'm' in the name
[11:01:55] wagnerrp: :)
[11:02:16] wagnerrp: ugh...
[11:02:25] justinh: heh. Still seems too arcane for me. I dunno how the hell I used to be able to use that for composing emails back in the day
[11:02:50] justinh: I was something of a vi regex wiz back then too. eventually
[11:02:53] wagnerrp: newegg purchase failed last night because i had some CC authentication site not white-listed for javascript
[11:03:04] wagnerrp: and now it keeps denying things
[11:03:15] justinh: oh dear
[11:05:43] justinh: well, that's another free PrestaShop bent to do my bidding. I like these 5 minute jobs
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[12:25:19] GreatEmerald: I'm getting a whole lot of "FileRingBuf(/home/dainius/mythtv/1065_20130225200000.mpg.png): OpenFile(): Could not open." errors
[12:25:43] GreatEmerald: And that file does not exist indeed. Why does it try to open it in the first place?
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[12:27:00] GreatEmerald: Probably since it wants to get a thumbnail for an existing file, but there is no thumbnail generated, right?
[12:27:37] GreatEmerald: In that case, why did it fail to generate one? There are thumbnails for every single other video file...
[12:38:02] sphery: it's likely trying to generate one
[12:38:15] sphery: the log for mythpreviewgenerator will tell why it can't
[12:38:57] sphery: it may well be that the recording has damage (due to signal issues or similar) that results in mythpreviewgen failing (and/or crashing) when trying to create a thumbnail
[12:39:01] sphery: GreatEmerald: ^^^
[12:39:23] GreatEmerald: Ah, right, let me check
[12:43:10] GreatEmerald: sphery: No, there are no logs from mythpreviewgen that refer to 1065 at all, it looks like.
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[12:45:02] GreatEmerald: Though I don't have any logs from 201302 at all. But then why didn't I get such warnings from mythbackend before, I wonder...
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[16:52:19] Oleg_: what's the reason for this error:
[16:52:22] Oleg_: libavfilter/allfilters.c:52:45: error: 'CONFIG_APAD_FILTER' undeclared (first use in this function)
[16:52:23] Oleg_: REGISTER_FILTER(APAD, apad, af);
[16:52:23] Oleg_: ?
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[17:31:49] Oleg_: oh, nice, after cleaning the directories, I don't get this error anymore
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[18:01:03] clever: Oleg_: sounds like a config header wasnt properly rebuilt after changing the config
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[18:06:33] sphery: likely you pulled an update that included an ffmpeg change and didn't reconfigure
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[18:08:21] sphery: this is why we recommend following the -dev and -commits lists when using unstable (or if you're building from -fixes, you should always do a make distclean and reconfigure for every version upgrade)
[18:16:37] Oleg_: I always get antenna reception problems when I use any tv tuner
[18:16:43] Oleg_: including the hd homerun tuner
[18:17:08] Oleg_: but when I connect any antenna to my TV, I don't have these problems
[18:18:39] Oleg_: why is that?
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[18:23:06] Oleg_: nobody knows?
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[18:32:29] SteveGoodey: Oleg_: TV has a better receiver than the tv tuners?!
[18:33:36] sphery: and/or the splitter in the HDHR decreases your signal from "just good enough" to not quite good enough
[18:34:05] SteveGoodey: TV tuner faulty?!
[18:34:20] sphery: so to test the same conditions with your TV tuner, you'd have to get a 2-way splitter (assuming an HDHR with dual tuners) and connect each output to a TV and see if you get errors
[18:35:23] sphery: if it's due to the splitter, you likely just need a good distribution amplifier hooked up next to the antenna
[18:35:53] sphery: i.e. amplify at the source, not after you've incurred noise from transmission down the cable
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[18:44:29] Oleg_: u're saying the splitter would allow me to avoid using the built-in TV tuner and use the hd homerun tuner instead when it's connected to the TV?
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[18:48:25] jafa: Oleg_ – do you have the HDHomeRun connected now?
[18:50:46] Oleg_: yes
[18:54:02] Oleg_: I mean, I am using it to watch television through mythtv
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[18:54:52] Oleg_: but it looks like sphery is implying I could test the tuner by connecting it to my TV and disabling the built-in tv tuner
[18:55:25] sphery: Oleg_: I'm saying your test isn't a valid comparison because when you hook the cable directly to the TV there is no splitter, but the HDHR has an internal splitter--and all splitters result in a drop in signal strenght
[18:55:31] tgm4883: Oleg_, that isn't how i read it
[18:55:55] sphery: I'm saying you likely need to get a proper distribution amplifier so that even after splitting, you have sufficient signal
[18:56:26] sphery: so you're comparing one apple with 2 oranges--and it's not a fair comparison
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[19:06:46] jafa: Oleg_: first make sure you are running the latest 20130328 firmware...
[19:06:56] jafa: hdhomerun_config FFFFFFFF get /sys/version
[19:09:25] Oleg_: what is FFFFF?
[19:10:07] sphery: about 3 F's short? :)
[19:12:05] Oleg_: I don't think there is a hdhomerun_config file on my system
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[19:20:41] Oleg_: how do I update my tuner with this firmware on FreeBSD: http://download.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/hdh . . . 20130328.bin ?
[19:23:15] Oleg_: oh, I see
[19:23:19] Oleg_: just gotta read and follow the instructions on their web page
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[19:32:17] Oleg_: ok, I typed:
[19:32:20] Oleg_: hdhomerun_config 1034A2E3 get /sys/version
[19:32:20] Oleg_: 20120405
[19:34:39] Oleg_: okay, I upgraded the firmware
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[19:36:26] jafa: run a channel scan...
[19:36:36] jafa: hdhomerun_config FFFFFFFF scan /tuner0 scan.txt
[19:37:05] jafa: then pastebin the content of scan.txt
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[19:46:49] Oleg_: here: http://pastebin.com/mXXm46nX
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[20:03:56] Oleg_: what conclusions can you make after looking at that text?
[20:04:27] justinh: it's almost like a roman numeral
[20:04:34] justinh: mXXm .. :-P
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[20:04:56] Oleg_: I am talking about scan.txt
[20:05:46] Oleg_: I wonder how it can see the Starz channel, given the fact it's a premium cable channel
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[20:05:53] Oleg_: and I am using an over the air antenna
[20:05:57] Oleg_: look:
[20:05:58] Oleg_: PROGRAM 90: 31.90 Starz (encrypted)
[20:06:33] Oleg_: I mean, it sees it when it's scanning channels
[20:06:39] Oleg_: but I can't watch it, of course
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[20:21:56] qwebirc19170: I can't seem to find any info on commercial flagging sd content....things were working quite well on myth 0.24 but now that I've updated to myth 0.26 mythcommflag can't find any commercials on my sd content....my hd content is better than ever...any ideas?
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[20:45:24] jafa: Oleg_: is this antenna or cable?
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[20:48:37] Oleg_: antenna
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[20:53:20] jafa: which channel is causing you issues?
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[20:56:51] Oleg_: well, I have a perfect picture for minutes, but then, for a brief second, something happens to the picture and I hear noise, and then everything returns to normal
[20:57:19] Oleg_: but when I watch the TV using its built-in tuner, nothing like that ever happens
[21:01:10] Oleg_: it's annoying
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[21:17:51] Xtropy: Having an issue getting 0.26 backend running on osx. Currently running 0.25 ok. When I start setup or backend app it opens and closes immediately. Logs state error code: 153. Suggestions? Thanks
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[21:40:34] bill6502: Xtropy: He left, and I don't speak OSX, but: #define GENERIC_EXIT_DB_NOTIMEZONE 153 ///< Missing DB time zone support
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