| Thursday, April 4th, 2013, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:10] | mattwj2002: | A are not real popualr |
| [00:00:13] | kormoc: | which, to be fair, was what I first used myth on |
| [00:00:16] | mattwj2002: | *popular |
| [00:00:18] | wagnerrp: | and by the time the integrated graphics gets as much memory as it wants, under 200MB available |
| [00:00:19] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, they've just been released and sold out |
| [00:00:26] | mattwj2002: | no they didn't |
| [00:00:31] | kormoc: | yes, they did |
| [00:00:31] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: right, and that was probably like 8–9 years ago |
| [00:00:35] | mattwj2002: | I have had it for a few months |
| [00:00:42] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, the B, yes, not the A |
| [00:00:48] | mattwj2002: | oh okay :) |
| [00:01:02] | mattwj2002: | I thought A came before B |
| [00:01:03] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [00:01:23] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl . . . sold-US.html |
| [00:01:30] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, in specs, yes, in release date, no |
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| [00:01:41] | kormoc: | the B has a chance of working acceptably, the A does not |
| [00:01:51] | wagnerrp: | someone posted some Cortex-A9 board with 1GB of memory for like $40 |
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| [00:01:57] | wagnerrp: | maybe a month ago |
| [00:02:13] | wagnerrp: | that has vastly better prospects for a mythtv box than an RPi |
| [00:02:40] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: I have a raspberry pi |
| [00:02:51] | mattwj2002: | I would need no additional hardware |
| [00:02:54] | mattwj2002: | so I might try |
| [00:02:59] | wagnerrp: | well you need additional memory |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | mattwj2002, so do it, and enjoy |
| [00:03:09] | wagnerrp: | and you want a real network interface |
| [00:03:16] | mattwj2002: | it has one |
| [00:03:20] | wagnerrp: | it has wireless |
| [00:03:21] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, the B has ethernet, 10/100 |
| [00:03:24] | mattwj2002: | no it doesn't |
| [00:03:30] | wagnerrp: | it does? i thought they were all wireless |
| [00:03:33] | mattwj2002: | yeah the B is what I have |
| [00:03:41] | mattwj2002: | it has ethernet :) |
| [00:03:42] | wagnerrp: | well at least that's something... |
| [00:03:51] | mattwj2002: | and hdmi :D |
| [00:03:55] | kormoc: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Specifications |
| [00:04:12] | wagnerrp: | HDMI won't be of any use until someone gets around to writing an OpenMAX decoder for mythtv |
| [00:04:37] | kormoc: | MySQL is gonna be tough to run on there, but doable in 64 megabytes of ram. Just will be *slow* |
| [00:05:03] | wagnerrp: | it won't be that bad |
| [00:05:08] | mattwj2002: | I will give it a try |
| [00:05:19] | wagnerrp: | considering you can only reasonably attach one tuner, and are going to be very limited on disk space |
| [00:05:25] | mattwj2002: | I have nothing to lose besides a little time |
| [00:05:45] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, meh. can attach a 4t usb drive or however many you can chain |
| [00:05:52] | mattwj2002: | I plan on hooking up a usb hard drive |
| [00:06:03] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, and hdhome runs can increase tuner counts fast |
| [00:06:13] | mattwj2002: | I have an hdhomerun |
| [00:06:14] | wagnerrp: | not really |
| [00:06:33] | mattwj2002: | I'll only try one tuner |
| [00:06:35] | wagnerrp: | you might be able to run two tuners before you start dropping packets |
| [00:06:40] | mattwj2002: | it is basically just mpeg dump |
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| [00:07:03] | mattwj2002: | you guys would know more |
| [00:07:04] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [00:07:09] | wagnerrp: | three would almost certainly be out of the question |
| [00:07:18] | wagnerrp: | don't forget, HDHRs are all UDP |
| [00:07:25] | wagnerrp: | so you don't want to get anywhere close to saturating the link |
| [00:07:33] | mattwj2002: | good point |
| [00:07:38] | mattwj2002: | no recovery |
| [00:08:26] | mattwj2002: | guys |
| [00:08:32] | mattwj2002: | I hate to do this but I have to go |
| [00:08:43] | mattwj2002: | I am catching a movie with a few friends tonight |
| [00:08:45] | mattwj2002: | bye all :) |
| [00:09:34] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i'd love to see someone get openmax working with mythtv |
| [00:10:06] | wagnerrp: | there are some perfectly respectable Cortex units that would easily be as useful as an Atom |
| [00:10:20] | wagnerrp: | but the RPi really just doesn't cut it |
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| [00:13:13] | tonsofpcs: | I want something somewhere between the A and B. I'd rather ethernet and no on-board usb hub or CVBS output |
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| [00:19:50] | jafa: | slightly OT question – does anyone know of a screen (or device with a screen) that has non-square pixels visible to the OS/application? |
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| [00:20:25] | jafa: | some old plasma screens have non-square pixels but from what I hear the hide it |
| [00:21:18] | wagnerrp: | any projector with an anamorphic lens |
| [00:21:30] | jafa: | looking for a monitor or laptop or tablet ideally for testing |
| [00:21:52] | jafa: | wagnerrp: good thinking |
| [00:22:21] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: odds are the only reason they included a USB hub is because the network controller is tied in through it |
| [00:22:54] | wagnerrp: | jafa: we had an old 1024x1024 phillips plasma at work |
| [00:23:15] | wagnerrp: | no matter how hard i tried, i never did get a modeline working that could run at that resolution directly |
| [00:23:17] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: actually, now that you mention it, I think that's true. hmm... |
| [00:23:32] | plut0: | why am i getting "irrecoverable recorder error" when tuning to a specific channel? |
| [00:23:47] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: my portable3 has non-square plasma display... |
| [00:24:37] | jafa: | portable3? |
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| [00:25:35] | tonsofpcs: | http://tonsofpcs.com/portable3/ |
| [00:25:50] | tonsofpcs: | I forget the PAR but it's not 1:1 |
| [00:26:35] | jafa: | ok, that is a classic |
| [00:26:35] | tonsofpcs: | also, CRTs don't generally have square pixels, especially ones designed for video applications. Not sure what you mean by "visible to the OS/application" |
| [00:26:47] | wagnerrp: | orange, and darker orange? :P |
| [00:26:57] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: they call it 'amber' |
| [00:26:59] | tonsofpcs: | it's orange. |
| [00:27:03] | tonsofpcs: | (see pic #4) |
| [00:27:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4 ** | |
| [00:27:16] | wagnerrp: | can't see pics |
| [00:27:17] | jafa: | as in the OS can control each pixel... not rescalled and hidden by the display |
| [00:27:34] | jafa: | re-scaled |
| [00:27:38] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: what country are you in? |
| [00:27:49] | wagnerrp: | im guessing new york |
| [00:27:50] | jafa: | US |
| [00:28:03] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: as much as some would try, NY isn't soverign ;) |
| [00:28:09] | jafa: | :-) |
| [00:28:32] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: 720x480 display mode to a composite, s-video, or Y/Pr/Pb output. |
| [00:28:41] | tonsofpcs: | (NH on the other hand...) |
| [00:29:08] | wagnerrp: | jafa is our semi-official silicon dust contact |
| [00:29:22] | tonsofpcs: | oh, right. |
| [00:29:36] | ** tonsofpcs idles the hdhomerun channel ** | |
| [00:29:48] | ** tonsofpcs plays with the other side of the ATSC airwaves. ** | |
| [00:29:49] | jafa: | hmm... could find a LCD screen that supports stretching 4:3 to fill the 16:9 screen area (cringe) |
| [00:30:03] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: 720x480 is 0.9:1 |
| [00:30:05] | wagnerrp: | oh! those crappy in-car screens |
| [00:30:07] | tonsofpcs: | (roughly) |
| [00:30:19] | wagnerrp: | they're probably not 1:1 |
| [00:30:25] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: I've got an ikegami at work that will true scan pretty much anything.... |
| [00:30:44] | tonsofpcs: | actually... are you headed up to NAB next week? |
| [00:30:45] | wagnerrp: | i know they all report their individual subpixels as their resolution |
| [00:31:04] | wagnerrp: | so they claim things like 2400x600 resolution |
| [00:31:17] | plut0: | so i'm missing channels in mythtv but they show up in schedules direct, how do i fix this? |
| [00:31:22] | tonsofpcs: | well, subpixels and non-1:1 PAR are two different things |
| [00:31:28] | tonsofpcs: | if you want subpixels, an Apple II can handle that :-p |
| [00:31:46] | jafa: | NAB – I won't be... not sure about other guys from Silicondust |
| [00:32:09] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: darn. Sometimes you can buy displays used from vendors who use them for show floor displays. |
| [00:32:28] | tonsofpcs: | I think the easiest way to get a non-1:1 PAR on a modern display is to get a DLP or LCD projector and an anamorphic lens... |
| [00:33:38] | plut0: | anyone? |
| [00:33:41] | tonsofpcs: | we've got 1280x1080 and 1440x1080 16:9 video at work but it's scaled to 1920x1080 on output... the only non-1:1 PAR we have moving around usually is SD-SDI. |
| [00:33:51] | wagnerrp: | plut0: analog or digital? |
| [00:34:03] | plut0: | wagnerrp: digital, hdhomerun |
| [00:34:07] | plut0: | wagnerrp: FIOS |
| [00:34:12] | tonsofpcs: | plut0: did you scan? |
| [00:34:21] | wagnerrp: | you can't scan off a cablecard tuner |
| [00:34:25] | tonsofpcs: | oh, CATV, nevermind. |
| [00:34:26] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv? |
| [00:34:52] | wagnerrp: | 0.25 or newer should be able to pull a lineup from SD like normal |
| [00:35:00] | plut0: | 0.25.2_p20120825 |
| [00:36:47] | plut0: | any ideas? |
| [00:37:06] | wagnerrp: | try running mythfilldatabase manually on the command line |
| [00:37:16] | plut0: | wagnerrp: what flags? |
| [00:37:19] | wagnerrp: | there are some parameters to control population of lineups |
| [00:37:24] | wagnerrp: | i don't know which ones off hand |
| [00:37:49] | plut0: | i tried this last |
| [00:37:51] | plut0: | mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates --only-update-channels --do-not-filter-new-channels |
| [00:38:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery is really the one to talk to about this |
| [00:38:23] | plut0: | sphery: you around? |
| [00:39:42] | plut0: | hmm |
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| [01:53:27] | daniel304: | i have just installed a geforce gt610 on mythubuntu! yet to get tuner next week!! i was testing the hd play back on you tube and its real stuttery! how can i solve this? |
| [01:53:42] | daniel304: | i have install the drivers for the card through additional driver |
| [01:54:22] | plut0: | EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 |
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| [02:01:16] | daniel304: | how do you do that? |
| [02:03:44] | daniel304: | my colour is fine!! |
| [02:04:13] | plut0: | /etc/adobe/mms.cfg |
| [02:11:30] | sphery: | plut0: how many video sources? |
| [02:11:48] | plut0: | sphery: 1 or 2 |
| [02:12:20] | sphery: | daniel304: youtube uses flash = trash = burn your cpu because macromedia/adobe doesn't know how to do video |
| [02:12:44] | sphery: | plut0: you'll probably have to specify the video source to your mythfilldatabase line |
| [02:13:02] | plut0: | sphery: what flags? |
| [02:13:20] | sphery: | also, if you just added those missing channels, it's possible you have old data cached that doesn't have them |
| [02:13:26] | sphery: | mythfilldatabase --help |
| [02:13:34] | plut0: | mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates --only-update-channels --do-not-filter-new-channels |
| [02:13:57] | daniel304: | sphery: but surely it can play hd video!! |
| [02:14:05] | daniel304: | with out stuttering |
| [02:14:52] | wagnerrp: | what he's saying is that it's not the graphics card that matters, it's the CPU |
| [02:14:54] | wagnerrp: | what is your CPU? |
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| [02:15:41] | plut0: | wagnerrp: flash can offload decoding to gpu with vdpau on nvidia |
| [02:15:41] | ** sphery guesses a celeron ** | |
| [02:15:59] | sphery: | plut0: only if the website and video allows |
| [02:16:07] | wagnerrp: | plut0: sure, if you've sacrificed a goat that afternoon, and the stars are aligned |
| [02:16:15] | sphery: | ah, yeah, forgot about the goat |
| [02:16:38] | plut0: | sphery: i deleted my other source |
| [02:17:08] | plut0: | sphery: running mythfilldatabase, no new channels found |
| [02:17:18] | sphery: | plut0: I'd recommend deleting both sources at this point |
| [02:17:27] | sphery: | then create the source for the cablecard tuner |
| [02:17:30] | wagnerrp: | daniel304: what CPU? |
| [02:17:34] | sphery: | then run mythfilldatabase to fetch channels |
| [02:17:40] | sphery: | then verify they're all there |
| [02:17:47] | plut0: | sphery: alright i'll try that now |
| [02:17:48] | sphery: | then create and rescan/repopulate your other source |
| [02:17:55] | daniel304: | celeron D 935 |
| [02:17:57] | sphery: | plut0: make sure you use "Delete all video sources" |
| [02:18:15] | wagnerrp: | celeron d? an old netburst chip? |
| [02:18:17] | sphery: | otherwise, it may leave some garbage that may interfere |
| [02:18:17] | daniel304: | wagnerrp: celeron D 935 3.2ghz |
| [02:18:40] | sphery: | plut0: and while you're at it verify there's no /tmp/myth* directory (and if there is, delete it) |
| [02:19:52] | sphery: | daniel304: fwiw, MythTV will play your UK H.264 HDTV much better since it won't have flash in the way and can use the VDPAU support in the card regardless |
| [02:20:55] | daniel304: | sphery: but still i would like HD you tube video in the mean time! |
| [02:20:55] | sphery: | that said, my system (with dual-core 3GHz AMD Ahtlon II x2 250) can't do full-screen flash video playback either |
| [02:21:01] | sphery: | it's the scaling that kills it |
| [02:21:12] | daniel304: | ah ok |
| [02:21:12] | sphery: | if I play it back at whatever resolution the video is, it's fine |
| [02:21:35] | wagnerrp: | and that 3GHz AthII is vastly more capable than an old 3.2GHz P4 |
| [02:21:53] | sphery: | so, my suggestion... watch your youtube with the tiny video in the unscaled browser window |
| [02:22:58] | sphery: | YouTube: turning your 67" HDTV into a 12" TV with a 23" border filled with text and ads and other youtube "decorations" |
| [02:23:06] | plut0: | sphery: what channel frequency table should i be using for FIOS with a hdhomerun tuner? |
| [02:23:21] | sphery: | hdhr prime? |
| [02:23:23] | wagnerrp: | none |
| [02:23:30] | plut0: | sphery: yes |
| [02:23:33] | wagnerrp: | the prime has its own internal frequency table |
| [02:23:39] | sphery: | yeah, we don't actually tune with it |
| [02:23:41] | wagnerrp: | all mythtv cares about is the channel number |
| [02:23:45] | sphery: | that's why you can't scan |
| [02:23:58] | sphery: | s/can't/don't need to/ |
| [02:24:04] | daniel304: | does anyone have a decent link to short hd movies so i can test it from mythtv videos |
| [02:25:05] | wagnerrp: | mythtv won't run without a tuner |
| [02:25:31] | wagnerrp: | you might be able to get mythavtest to run, i'm not sure |
| [02:25:40] | sphery: | daniel304: www.bigbuckbunny.org and www.elephantsdream.org were the standards, but don't seem to be responding |
| [02:26:08] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Buck_Bunny and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephants_Dream , fwiw |
| [02:26:23] | wagnerrp: | there's the mythtv versions of those cached on osuosl |
| [02:26:30] | sphery: | ooh, there's a new one |
| [02:26:42] | sphery: | I've seen those 2 and Sintel, but didn't know about Tears of Steel |
| [02:26:47] | daniel304: | ah thanks |
| [02:26:52] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintel and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears_of_Steel |
| [02:27:39] | sphery: | I'm guessing it's hosted at the same location as the others, though--I can't get to its website, either |
| [02:29:39] | sphery: | perhaps it's anonymous doing a DDoS protesting the abuse of butterfliers and/or rodents |
| [02:29:59] | daniel304: | lol sphery |
| [02:30:47] | sphery: | so, since I can't spell butterflies, right now, I shoudl probably call it an evening |
| [02:31:04] | wagnerrp: | *should |
| [02:31:12] | sphery: | good luck, plut0 ... |
| [02:31:16] | sphery: | hehe, more proof |
| [02:31:25] | plut0: | sphery: you leaving? |
| [02:31:28] | wagnerrp: | night |
| [02:37:59] | sphery: | plut0: while brushing my teeth, I had half a memory of an issue with fetching channels that was recently fixed, so make sure you're using the most-current -fixes (ideally 0.26-fixes) |
| [02:38:15] | wagnerrp: | the timeout issue? |
| [02:38:23] | sphery: | ah, yeah, that |
| [02:38:39] | plut0: | sphery: i'm still on 0.25 |
| [02:39:13] | wagnerrp: | did 0.25 still use wget for that? |
| [02:39:21] | sphery: | but that was preventing getting the lineups, themselves, so would have hit before fetching channels |
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| [02:39:40] | plut0: | mythfilldatabase fetch fails sometimes... |
| [02:39:40] | sphery: | I think 0.24 was the last with wget |
| [02:40:01] | sphery: | well, if it's the timeout, it should be fixed in 0.26-fixes |
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| [02:44:59] | plut0: | sphery: doesn't look like it got all of the channels still |
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| [02:45:32] | sphery: | the log should tell you which it's adding and which it's not |
| [02:45:45] | plut0: | sphery: it's missing the same channels from before |
| [02:45:50] | sphery: | and any not reported don't exist in the data you're downloading (or the old cached data that you haven't yet deleted) |
| [02:46:07] | sphery: | if you have deleted all the /tmp/myth* , then you may need to Delete all video sources |
| [02:46:16] | plut0: | i did delete all video sources |
| [02:46:19] | sphery: | then go to schedules direct website and do a "re-add all lineups" (some button there) |
| [02:46:22] | sphery: | then try again |
| [02:46:33] | sphery: | make sure there's no /tmp/myth* |
| [02:46:48] | sphery: | anyway, gotta get some sleep |
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| [02:47:33] | sphery: | also, you might want to just try using the Fetch channels from listings provider button in mythtv-setup, instead |
| [02:47:37] | sphery: | and not do the manual workaround |
| [02:47:48] | plut0: | ok i'll try that |
| [03:10:01] | plut0: | sphery: still missing channels |
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| [03:26:05] | daniel304: | sphery: my video play back of downloaded HD files is smeary on one of the animations!! |
| [03:26:18] | wagnerrp: | smeary? |
| [03:26:26] | daniel304: | looks like it slows or something |
| [03:26:45] | wagnerrp: | how are you playing it? |
| [03:27:11] | daniel304: | through frontend on be/fe setup |
| [03:27:23] | wagnerrp: | but you don't have a tuner |
| [03:27:28] | wagnerrp: | so the backend won't run |
| [03:27:35] | wagnerrp: | and the frontend won't run without a backend to connect to |
| [03:27:45] | daniel304: | i am playing it on the frontend |
| [03:27:52] | daniel304: | from hard drive |
| [03:28:09] | wagnerrp: | sounds like mythbuntu... IIRC, they remove that restriction |
| [03:28:17] | wagnerrp: | in any case, did you ever configure mythtv to use vdpau? |
| [03:28:34] | daniel304: | not yet!! i haven't got the tuner yet!! |
| [03:28:50] | daniel304: | can i do it without the tuner |
| [03:28:55] | wagnerrp: | not yet what? |
| [03:29:06] | daniel304: | vdpau |
| [03:29:11] | wagnerrp: | typically, you cannot run mythtv without the tuner |
| [03:29:23] | wagnerrp: | vdpau is a playback setting, it has nothing to do with the backend or recording |
| [03:29:27] | daniel304: | well i am right now without a tuner |
| [03:29:49] | daniel304: | i am watching animation i downloaded to my hard |
| [03:29:54] | daniel304: | through mythtv |
| [03:30:50] | daniel304: | how do i setup vdpau |
| [03:30:53] | daniel304: | ?? |
| [03:31:04] | wagnerrp: | in the frontend setup options |
| [03:31:15] | wagnerrp: | should be a video option |
| [03:31:24] | wagnerrp: | a couple pages in, there are options to configure video decoding |
| [03:31:35] | wagnerrp: | use the dropdown, and select 'vdpau normal' |
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| [03:58:29] | mattwj2002: | hi all |
| [03:59:34] | mattwj2002: | well I built a quick mythtv box |
| [03:59:39] | mattwj2002: | aka my laptop :) |
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| [04:10:09] | mattwj2002: | anyone here? |
| [04:10:14] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [04:10:20] | mattwj2002: | by the way guys my clearqam is still here |
| [04:10:33] | mattwj2002: | oh bummer wagnerrp sorry to hear no one around :( |
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| [04:16:11] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: you are not available? |
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| [09:09:52] | stse: | Hi! Does anyone have problems getting the EPG data from Prosieben? |
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| [10:28:43] | prologic: | I there a way to extend an already scheduled recording (and currently being recorded) end time? |
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| [10:59:27] | wagnerrp: | prologic: yes. edit that recording instance |
| [10:59:35] | wagnerrp: | stse: Prosieben? |
| [11:01:00] | wagnerrp: | if they're not transmitting EIT data, there should be XMLTV grabbers available with data for it |
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| [14:25:05] | qwebirc37775: | looking for some help with mythcommflag...any one available? |
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| [14:58:45] | Oleg_: | I see that all that external ffmpeg stuff has been renamed |
| [14:58:58] | Oleg_: | or most of it has been renamed |
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| [19:46:44] | GlemSom: | I'm trying to figure out why a recently recorded show got deleted within 2 hours after it was recorded. It seems due to expiry... But, I'm a little unsure... Could someone give me a clue here -> http://pastebin.com/4T5TGdk5 |
| [19:48:00] | GlemSom: | my wife says she didn't delete it... But, I'm a little unsure what "Expire autoexpire.cpp:641 (SendDeleteMessages) – Expiring 2049 MB for 1013" actually means... if it's ONLY trickered from a delete action from the user, or – if the same is trickered for housekeeping cleaning |
| [19:51:25] | GlemSom: | And, does "Recording Priority" affect the "Delete first priority" ? |
| [19:52:51] | GlemSom: | And, if it does – why does mythtv "cleanup" an 2 hour old recording BEFORE deleting a 3 month old recording ? |
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| [20:06:45] | ajaxmike: | when i run mythbackend I get >MySQL time zone support is missing |
| [20:07:07] | ajaxmike: | I confirmed that the tables are missing |
| [20:08:59] | ajaxmike: | used the instructions in wiki to install tables but i get a syntax error |
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| [20:11:48] | ajaxmike: | tried this command mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | mysql -u root -p<mypswd> mysql |
| [20:12:30] | ajaxmike: | i go no such file or directory |
| [20:13:26] | sphery: | ajaxmike: sounds like you're missing some package that contains that tool |
| [20:13:35] | sphery: | or the command isn't in your PATH |
| [20:14:25] | sphery: | GlemSom: that was auto-expired to make room for other recordings that were occurring at the time |
| [20:15:17] | sphery: | GlemSom: why depends on a ton of settings about auto-expire priority as well as which (or whether any) other recordings on the file system that was in use were marked to allow expiration |
| [20:33:43] | GlemSom: | hmm ok, I'll take a look into that then – ty |
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| [22:53:54] | tgm4883: | Kinda neat to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLt7dD8uJWI |
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| [23:35:19] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: what is this? |
| [23:35:48] | wagnerrp: | oh, gource |
| [23:38:52] | wagnerrp: | the ffmpeg syncs are like fireworks |
| [23:42:21] | Seeker: | has anyone else had problems with h264 mkvs being terrible to skip forward/backwards in? |
| [23:42:40] | Seeker: | VLC and XBMC seem to manage it, but mythtv sits there with "Searching..." for a while |
| [23:42:48] | wagnerrp: | there were issues on older versions with slower networks |
| [23:42:59] | wagnerrp: | the mkv demuxer in ffmpeg was bursty |
| [23:43:19] | wagnerrp: | and so it could stall and run out of data on 10/100 networks |
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| [23:46:45] | Seeker: | this is on a gigabit connection to the backend |
| [23:46:57] | Seeker: | and this is running master as of about 2 weeks ago |
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| [23:49:26] | Seeker: | wagnerrp: how much 'older' are you talking about? |
| [23:49:50] | wagnerrp: | maybe 0.25? |
| [23:50:29] | Seeker: | definitely more up to date than that :P |
| [23:52:43] | Seeker: | also, I've never really understood this; why do we need to maintain our own copy of ffmpeg? |
| [23:53:02] | wagnerrp: | we don't really |
| [23:53:11] | Seeker: | why do we? |
| [23:53:23] | wagnerrp: | we try to keep the changes in our copy as few and minor as possible |
| [23:53:35] | wagnerrp: | but we do it so we can ensure the copy in use has a compatible ABI |
| [23:54:02] | wagnerrp: | and we're not trying to tie into a wide range of versions on users' computers spanning several years of ffmpeg |
| [23:54:32] | Seeker: | how often does the ffmpeg ABI change? |
| [23:54:48] | Seeker: | seems like it would be simpler to just say 'this version of mythtv requires version X of ffmpeg' |
| [23:54:56] | wagnerrp: | not so much now, but it used to be very common |
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| [23:55:06] | wagnerrp: | same with command line arguments |
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| [23:55:30] | wagnerrp: | look at how much trouble there is just getting a version of ffmpeg that nuvexport is happy with |
| [23:55:49] | wagnerrp: | that's the reason nuvexport preferred to use mencoder, which was in turn powered by ffmpeg |
| [23:56:08] | wagnerrp: | because mencoder had more stable command line arguments than the ffmpeg binary |
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