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[02:18:22] cheri: hi I am trying to setup hls capture streaming using myth I added few schedules but the time it shows when I run mythbackend --printsched are different than my system time but the durations of the slot is correct
[02:18:42] cheri: can anyone please help me on how to fix this up
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[09:01:45] ServerSage: So I have an HDHomeRun Prime (HDHR3-CC). It's upgraded to the latest firmware (20130328). Signal strength is good (100% 1.1dBmV). Quality is good (100% 40.2dB). But, recordings are frequently garbled. The sound is aweful and the image is broken. Any ideas?
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[10:18:31] bergqvistjl: hi, i'm running mythtv 0.26, and many (mostly all in fact) of my recordings seem to have the duplicate field set to 1 in the 'record' table, even though they're not repeats according to the guide data. Is there any way I can stop this from happening?
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[10:21:01] bergqvistjl: i'm in the UK, and using the radio times XMLTV grabber
[10:21:59] bergqvistjl: All recordings record fine, yet the duplicate field seems apply afterwards, meaning that in the OSD, it shows (repeat) after the program name
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[11:16:20] sphery: bergqvistjl: you're not interpreting the duplicate field correctly
[11:16:53] sphery: and you don't want to change that value--it's correct
[11:17:50] sphery: whether or not it's a repeat is specified by your listings source (i.e. RT) and has nothing to do with the duplicate field
[11:20:33] bergqvistjl: but the listings source doesn't say it's a repeat though
[11:20:35] sphery: specifically, RT is sending a tag in the XMLTV data called <previously-shown>, as described by XMLTV
[11:20:42] bergqvistjl: neither does the scheduler
[11:21:07] bergqvistjl: what's wierd is , the "Repeat" as shown on the OSD during playback only appears every other time I play the video :/
[11:21:17] bergqvistjl: sometimes it isn't there, sometimes it is.
[11:21:30] sphery: http://xmltv.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xmltv/xmltv/xmltv.dtd for info on previously-shown
[11:21:34] bergqvistjl: The previously shown field in the recorded table is also set to zero
[11:22:14] sphery: ah, then you're probably using the Qt painter and a theme that uses alpha-pulse with the icons or something
[11:22:28] sphery: meaning it's not actually set, but you think it's displayed
[11:22:51] sphery: in frontend settings, go to Appearance and make sure your UI Painter is set to Auto
[11:23:12] bergqvistjl: it is set to auto
[11:23:23] bergqvistjl: the theme i'm using is Blue-Abstract-Wide
[11:23:40] sphery: ok, then please paste a log file at default verbosity showing frontend startup to pastebin
[11:24:05] bergqvistjl: ok, hang on
[11:24:07] sphery: er, it's called "Paint engine", it seems
[11:24:55] sphery: and note that Auto is not the default for that...
[11:25:29] bergqvistjl: ok, i set it to opengl, and it's stopped doing it
[11:25:38] bergqvistjl: obviously auto must be Qt for me :S
[11:25:42] bergqvistjl: thanks though
[11:26:08] sphery: don't set it to opengl
[11:26:10] sphery: set it to auto
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[11:26:30] sphery: This selects what MythTV uses to draw. Choosing 'Auto' is recommended, unless running on systems with broken OpenGL implementations (broken hardware or drivers or windowing systems) where only Qt works.
[11:26:30] bergqvistjl: why?
[11:26:47] sphery: because Auto is smart enough to use OpenGL when it's available and fall back to Qt when OpenGL isn't available
[11:27:00] bergqvistjl: but I *know* opengl is available though
[11:27:07] sphery: it is /now/, but what about later
[11:27:23] sphery: but the idea is you shouldn't have to worry
[11:27:28] bergqvistjl: how do you mean?
[11:27:35] bergqvistjl: software doesn't just disappear :/
[11:27:36] sphery: when you ssh -Y to run mythtv-setup
[11:27:58] sphery: or any of a number of other things
[11:28:06] bergqvistjl: huh?
[11:28:08] sphery: basically, there's no reason /not/ to use Auto
[11:28:17] sphery: if you have working OpenGL implementation
[11:28:39] bergqvistjl: well opengl works if i be explicit and tell it to use opengl, so why shouldn't i use that, if Qt is broken for me?
[11:28:48] sphery: because Qt isn't broken
[11:28:50] sphery: it was working fine
[11:29:05] sphery: it's just that the theme you're using relies on OpenGL-only behavior to properly show some icons
[11:29:13] bergqvistjl: it's not an icon....
[11:29:16] bergqvistjl: it's text.
[11:29:26] sphery: flags
[11:29:36] sphery: state info
[11:29:37] sphery: whatever
[11:29:44] bergqvistjl: ok, well if it is opengl only then why not use opengl?
[11:30:02] sphery: you /will/ use OpenGL if you set it to Auto
[11:30:15] sphery: except when you don't want to
[11:30:19] bergqvistjl: well It *WAS* set to auto, yet it was using Qt :/
[11:30:25] bergqvistjl: I don't want it to use Qt at *all*
[11:30:32] sphery: then I /need/ to see that startup log
[11:30:36] bergqvistjl: ok
[11:30:37] sphery: with Paint engine set to Auto
[11:30:40] bergqvistjl: ok
[11:30:52] sphery: because if it's not properly using OpenGL when GL is available, I need to see why
[11:31:35] sphery: wait, are you talking about the Video renderer or the Paint engine
[11:31:50] sphery: Paint engine in settings
[11:32:00] sphery: Video renderer in Playback Profile
[11:33:00] bergqvistjl: the paintengine
[11:33:04] bergqvistjl: video renderer is vdpau
[11:34:30] bergqvistjl: what are the arguments i'd need to give mythfrotend to get the log files?
[11:35:13] sphery: it should just log normally
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[11:35:28] sphery: are you using *buntu?
[11:35:32] bergqvistjl: no, arch
[11:35:34] sphery: if so, check /var/log/mythtv
[11:35:43] bergqvistjl: systemd messes about with the logs, i have no idea where they go now
[11:36:04] sphery: is systemd starting mythfrontend?
[11:36:09] bergqvistjl: i have no idea
[11:36:10] bergqvistjl: no
[11:36:16] bergqvistjl: i start it in my .xinitrc
[11:36:23] sphery: can you just start mythfrontend in a terminal
[11:36:28] sphery: (or does closing mythfrontend exit X)
[11:37:00] sphery: otherwise, mythfrontend --logpath /path/to/directory
[11:37:15] sphery: is the easiest way
[11:39:33] bergqvistjl: ok 2 secs
[11:45:48] bergqvistjl: got it, hang on
[11:48:55] bergqvistjl: right well what i've done was run the frontend, play the recording 4 times. the first time, it didn't say "repeat", the 2nd and 3rd times it did, and the 4th time it didnt.
[11:49:22] bergqvistjl: I have to go back out of the watch recordings menu, and back into it again, for the OSD to change
[11:49:32] bergqvistjl: i.e. i can't just simply pres esc, and then enter again to play it, for it to change
[11:49:48] sphery: I just need to see startup to see what's happening with the Auto selection
[11:50:21] bergqvistjl: yeah
[11:51:20] bergqvistjl: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AaPgVH30
[11:52:40] sphery: bergqvistjl: it's using OpenGL
[11:52:46] sphery: 2013-04–03 12:43:16.689660 I [663/663] CoreContext mythrender_opengl.cpp:128 (Init) – OpenGL: Initialised MythRenderOpenGL
[11:53:14] bergqvistjl: well why, when i explicitly tell the painter to use OpenGL, do I not get the bug? :/
[11:53:23] sphery: did you actually see it show repeat in there
[11:53:27] bergqvistjl: yes
[11:53:36] bergqvistjl: but not all the time, only every other time
[12:09:08] sphery: so, anyway, I'd suggest using Auto for the paint engine
[12:09:20] bergqvistjl: yeah
[12:09:27] sphery: it should work fine and will fall back to the less-capable engine if necessary
[12:09:48] sphery: if things change over time (hardware/software/use of X forwarding/...)
[12:10:06] sphery: and thanks for looking into the issue with the theme or whatever's causing it
[12:10:53] bergqvistjl: yeah
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[18:38:52] wizbit: in general settings I have: Extra disk space (GB): 5
[18:38:59] wizbit: however my mythtv partition shows this
[18:39:04] wizbit: and its getting filled up
[18:39:13] wizbit: /dev/sdb1 401G 397G 3.9G 100% /srv/mythtv
[18:39:57] wizbit: 0.26.0 is stable so maybe i should compile that now
[18:40:16] wizbit: and hopefully the above was just a bug
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[19:41:09] sphery: wizbit: autoexpiration only occurs when recording to the file system
[19:41:57] sphery: so, if mythtv isn't recording to one of the directories under /srv/mythtv , it won't be expiring things on it--even if it drops below 5GB available
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[19:42:12] sphery: which is why we suggest file systems used only by mythtv
[19:49:37] wizbit: /srv/mythtv is only used by mythtv
[19:57:54] sphery: wizbit: so what does the backend log say... it should be saying all sorts of things about "need X GB but only Y available" and trying to expire things (or telling you why it can't)
[19:58:20] sphery: assuming, that is, that MythTV has actually attempted to record to the file system since it filled beyond 5GB available
[20:02:17] wizbit: sphery: ok i will compile stable 26 and do another test!
[20:02:53] sphery: note that you'll have to make some room available, though
[20:03:08] sphery: if it has 0 bytes available, mythtv can't start a new recording, so it can't expire
[20:03:27] sphery: so just go in and delete something manually (i.e. from the autoexpire list in frontend system status)
[20:03:39] sphery: or, if you prefer, from Watch Recordings
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[23:13:42] jarryd: ^5 tons
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[23:19:30] tonsofpcs: ^5
[23:24:48] wagnerrp: ?
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[23:51:34] mattwj2002: hi guys
[23:51:42] mattwj2002: raspberry pi and mythtv?
[23:51:47] mattwj2002: I see it is possible
[23:54:16] mattwj2002: anyone have any experience with that?
[23:55:16] wagnerrp: who said it is possible?
[23:55:30] mattwj2002: google :)
[23:55:39] wagnerrp: google is an idiot
[23:55:45] mattwj2002: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=26022
[23:56:17] mattwj2002: I have played 1080p video on a pi before
[23:56:17] wagnerrp: get something with a respectable amount of memory, and then we'll talk
[23:56:32] mattwj2002: I have a dual core too
[23:56:34] mattwj2002: :)
[23:57:03] wagnerrp: or in this case, get something with a respectable amount of storage
[23:57:10] wagnerrp: since they're only installing the backend
[23:57:24] wagnerrp: amusingly, they're telling users to install plugins, which do exactly nothing on a dedicated backend
[23:57:40] wagnerrp: further proving their cluelessness
[23:57:58] mattwj2002: wagnerrp: I didn't mean to anger you
[23:58:30] kormoc: wagnerrp smash!
[23:58:37] mattwj2002: O.o
[23:58:45] wagnerrp: you didn't anger me
[23:59:05] wagnerrp: the people who insist on trying to install mythtv on painfully inadequate hardware, against all better judgement, anger me
[23:59:13] kormoc: to be fair, they're installing myth web as the plugin
[23:59:27] mattwj2002: wagnerrp: I would have to have a backend that is just a raspberry pi and a hard drive
[23:59:28] mattwj2002: :)
[23:59:38] wagnerrp: the RPI has lower specs than any machine to ever be recommended for mythtv
[23:59:49] kormoc: mattwj2002, A or B?
[23:59:52] mattwj2002: B
[23:59:55] wagnerrp: it has about as much power as a early model Pentium II

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