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| [00:08:47] | jamesd_: | well progress... timewarner cable tv sucks.... but have antenna working via the hdhomerun now just need to get mythtv working |
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| [00:50:05] | wagnerrp: | wonderful job CBS |
| [00:50:13] | wagnerrp: | nothing like 40 seconds of dead air |
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| [01:05:52] | jamesd_: | thing of the harddisk space you saved.. |
| [01:06:18] | clever: | lol |
| [01:06:41] | clever: | i have seen my pvr-150 try to encode an hour of 1 frame, it does do miracles to the file size |
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| [02:34:48] | bill6502: | jams: Judging from a recent comment on the -users list, smolt.mythtv.org needs a friendly kick in the pants again. It's returning a 502 Proxy Error again. |
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| [04:20:57] | jamesd_: | got it working... even the windows frontend and mythbuntu frontend in vmware player, just for testing.. don't expect to deploy like that... |
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| [04:59:48] | micky62g: | Hello, when using dvb-s im trying to add a sat config |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | http://worldwidesatellites.com/circular-dual- . . . b-p-281.html |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> so the 1 lnb hits 2 sats on different frequencies |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> 11250 ---sat119 |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> 10750 (linear) – sat 118.8 |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> ---------so with the sat config |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> i cant figure out for the life of me what sat to select |
| [04:59:50] | micky62g: | <micky62g> to achive this |
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| [07:24:36] | GreatEmerald: | Is there a way to debug the shutdown logic of mythbackend? I have it set so that mythbackend turns itself off and puts the HTPC to sleep, then on wake it gets turned on again |
| [07:25:09] | GreatEmerald: | But somehow on wake it doesn't attempt to sleep again. I can't see why that would happen... |
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| [07:26:31] | GreatEmerald: | Also, it doesn't sleep when XBMC is on. I assume that it's due to the fact that a client is connected, and mythbackend thinks it's not idle. But would be nice to know for certain. |
| [07:26:41] | [R]: | yes, its not idle |
| [07:26:45] | [R]: | put debug in your script |
| [07:26:49] | [R]: | run mythbackend with -v idle |
| [07:28:37] | GreatEmerald: | Ah, thanks |
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| [08:37:39] | GreatEmerald: | Hm, so far I only see housekeeping threads. I guess they count as not being idle? |
| [08:38:13] | GreatEmerald: | Also, what exactly does this mean: "GetPlaybackURL: '1065_20130309213000.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found" |
| [08:39:51] | GreatEmerald: | Such a file indeed doesn't exist, but I'm not sure why it would want it to exist |
| [08:39:59] | SteveGoodey: | The file it was looking for has gone missing. Deleted or on another server that's no longer available. |
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| [08:41:44] | GreatEmerald: | SteveGoodey: Since it's local, it probably got deleted. How do I tell mythbackend to forget about it? |
| [08:43:32] | SteveGoodey: | Try playing it from the recordings list. It will say it can't find it, should remove entry or offer to remove entry. |
| [08:43:55] | GreatEmerald: | All right |
| [08:45:06] | jason___: | or just use this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [08:45:28] | GreatEmerald: | Huh, yea, it keeps giving me this error. I wonder if that could be a reason why it won't sleep, too. But before deleting it, I'll wait a bit more to see if any more errors show up. |
| [08:47:35] | GreatEmerald: | jason___: Does it work on 0.26 as well? |
| [08:48:54] | jason___: | I have used it on 0.27 so I guess it should also work on 0.26 |
| [08:49:25] | GreatEmerald: | All right, looks useful. |
| [08:51:01] | SteveGoodey: | jason___: How does 0.27 look? Still some rough edges? |
| [08:51:09] | jason___: | Also had a problem with the backend not idling and pretty it was because it kept trying to delete file that didn't exist |
| [08:52:10] | GreatEmerald: | Hm, when I try to execute the script, I get "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" |
| [08:52:25] | GreatEmerald: | On line 26, at the closing quotation mark |
| [08:54:10] | jason___: | I'm on ubuntu 13.04 and just tried it, works fine here |
| [08:54:36] | GreatEmerald: | I'm on Gentoo. Probably missing something, but the message is kind of vague. |
| [08:54:52] | jason___: | Been using 0.27 for several months and it's been pretty solid |
| [08:57:25] | GreatEmerald: | Apparently it doesn't recognise what u'' means |
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| [08:58:46] | GreatEmerald: | jason___: Which Python version do you use? |
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| [08:59:45] | jason___: | 2.7.3–13ubuntu1 |
| [08:59:58] | GreatEmerald: | ah, I'm using 3.2, that's probably why |
| [09:00:31] | GreatEmerald: | Yeap, "python2 find_orphans.py" works |
| [09:01:12] | jason___: | wagnerrp ^^^ |
| [09:03:28] | jason___: | Hopefully running that deleting anything missing will allow it to idle |
| [09:05:21] | GreatEmerald: | Yea, so far it's been 5 minutes without any messages |
| [09:07:17] | jason___: | How long have you set shutdown timer? |
| [09:07:25] | GreatEmerald: | 15 minutes |
| [09:08:00] | GreatEmerald: | It also checks whether the network interface is idle first, so for the first real opportunity to sleep it waits 30 minutes |
| [09:08:36] | GreatEmerald: | mythbackend now shows that it's running another housekeeping thread, but without any errors this time around |
| [09:09:17] | jason___: | Yeah mine shows that all the time but doesn't effect shutdown |
| [09:10:00] | jason___: | You should set the shutdown timer to 10 seconds to test it |
| [09:12:07] | GreatEmerald: | It's useful to see if anything else pops up in the mean while, though. |
| [09:12:47] | GreatEmerald: | Aha, autoexpire just ran, and no errors there either |
| [09:13:37] | GreatEmerald: | I also see some "PMT says program 10501 is encrypted" and "PID 0x529 status: Encrypted" mesages, but that's probably nothing too important |
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| [09:16:30] | jason___: | With logging set to idle you should see messages like: |
| [09:16:32] | jason___: | mythbackend[14685]: N Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2877 (CheckShutdownServer) CheckShutdownServer returned – Not OK to shutdown |
| [09:17:27] | jason___: | And then: |
| [09:17:46] | jason___: | mythbackend[14685]: N Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2957 (ShutdownServer) Running the command to set the next scheduled wakeup time: /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh |
| [09:19:08] | GreatEmerald: | Nothing of the sort yet |
| [09:20:32] | jason___: | you can turn on idle logging by running "mythbackend --setverbose idle" |
| [09:20:59] | jason___: | with the backend still running |
| [09:22:54] | GreatEmerald: | Yea, I already have it started with -v idle |
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| [09:24:51] | GreatEmerald: | And still nothing. I'll see what happens once I turn off XBMC. Previously that allowed idling, although I'm not sure why it would prevent it in the first place... |
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| [09:36:00] | GreatEmerald: | Yeap, turning off XBMC started the countdown timer |
| [09:36:51] | GreatEmerald: | But why wouldn't it start with XBMC on, I wonder... |
| [09:37:27] | jesh: | hi, i have a problem with mythtv .26 UPnP, it seems that my tv only finds mythtv right after backend startup, not when it has been idling for a few minutes, any clues? |
| [09:37:35] | jason___: | So it doesn't shutdown when you're watching something |
| [09:39:04] | jason___: | Mythfrontend tells the backend if it's idling and allows the backend to shutdown , not sure if XBMC has the ability to do that |
| [09:41:20] | justinh: | meh. all this trying to save energy. Think of all the wear & tear.. all those HDD spinups. Oy |
| [09:42:08] | justinh: | is it really worth it? I've sometimes considered shutting the backend down when I'm not using it but I think I could likely get a better thing going by doing away with the frontend altogether & just run cables to the livingroom |
| [09:43:00] | justinh: | jesh: the thing about UPnP is this: the 'Universal' seems to mean 'everything is different' |
| [09:43:33] | jason___: | I thing turning if off for 16 hours would save alot more "wear and tear" than idling doing nothing for that time |
| [09:43:47] | jason___: | *think* |
| [09:43:53] | justinh: | you just have to see the config files for twonkymedia server etc to realise it's a mess. Oh, if client is this do this, if client is that, do that... |
| [09:44:16] | justinh: | jason___: spinups are far worse than just sitting there. this is from HDD manufacturers |
| [09:46:44] | justinh: | how much money does it all add up to anyway, this power you save? That's all I care about |
| [09:46:44] | GreatEmerald: | In my case I want to have it sleep due to noise. The TV outlet is there in the living room, so the HTPC also must be there, and having it work all the time is not exactly comfortable. |
| [09:47:06] | justinh: | heh. that's why my backend doesn't live in the lounge |
| [09:47:16] | justinh: | that's also why my frontend will soon be living in the backend |
| [09:48:08] | justinh: | GreatEmerald: my TV point is in the livingroom too. Luckily I have a crawl space under the floor to haul wiring through |
| [09:49:28] | jason___: | What cabling are you sending the video over? are you also sending remote signals? |
| [09:49:39] | GreatEmerald: | Well, thre's no real place here to put it even if I did have cables running. Unless downstairs, but that would be a lot of cables. |
| [09:50:02] | justinh: | Well, for the remote I plan to use my raspberry Pi as a network Lirc transciever |
| [09:50:29] | justinh: | for thw audio & video cabling, I'm going to ressurect my 'CAT5 video sender' |
| [09:50:51] | justinh: | it sends svideo & stereo audio over a cat5 cable, properly balanced |
| [09:51:30] | justinh: | I'll likely drop in an HDMI cable while I'm down there again though |
| [09:52:24] | justinh: | the lirc stuff doesn't even have to be over the network.. you can easily extend IR transmitters & receivers for a good few metres without problems |
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| [09:54:03] | jason___: | Yeah still trying to decide the best way to do it. At the moment ill prob have a network booting frontend at each tv |
| [09:54:48] | justinh: | the big problem with HTPCs is that they're usually fugly or expensive, or big, or noisy.. or any combination of the former. I guess the ideal would be a small mountable box with enough CPU grunt to decode in software (yes, in software), and a capacious SSD.. with a gigabit network connection |
| [09:55:30] | justinh: | one of my old frontends was a netbooted EPIA system. It *sucked* if XvMC couldn't cope |
| [09:58:19] | jason___: | Luxury costs money I'm afraid :-D |
| [09:58:26] | GreatEmerald: | Yeap, my thoughts exactly. Something of a mini-ITX system with a pretty weak (and thus cheap) processor and a small case would do wonders in that regard. Processors are getting pretty good at that sort of thing nowadays. |
| [09:58:35] | justinh: | even the expensive cases are fugly, generally |
| [09:58:45] | justinh: | better if they're not seen at all |
| [09:59:16] | GreatEmerald: | In my case, though, I just wanted to reuse the spare parts I had from my old PC, and so the HTPC is now a powerhouse, and it doesn't scale down too well |
| [09:59:22] | justinh: | oh sure, it's nice if they're all spanky brushed metal or whatever. But not when they're the size of a frickin wardrobe |
| [09:59:44] | jason___: | Yeah or in the tv? Ubuntu tv? |
| [10:00:06] | jason___: | Would make a sweet frontend |
| [10:00:10] | GreatEmerald: | Mini-ITX cases are really small, though. Could probably fit one behind a TV screen and be done with that. |
| [10:00:23] | justinh: | I'm not optimistic enough to think that the experience of watching media from a TV's own software will ever be nice |
| [10:00:58] | justinh: | right now at *best* they're just file browsers that can't play many different formats |
| [10:02:00] | justinh: | mind, with XBMC going to Android... you know a number of so-called 'smart' TVs can run android apps.. (kinda) |
| [10:03:02] | justinh: | only a matter of time before somebody tries side-loading XBMC onto a Viera LOL |
| [10:04:47] | GreatEmerald: | That's still not particularly extensible, though. I feel that the best TV is a simple big monitor, possibly with integrated speakers if necessary. |
| [10:04:53] | ** justinh laughs. Angry Birds on Samsung TVs already ** | |
| [10:05:50] | justinh: | SHDTV is a way off yet... and I've not even adopted HD yet |
| [10:06:51] | GreatEmerald: | I have like 2 HDTV channels here |
| [10:08:00] | GreatEmerald: | That said, the resolution of the TV in my case is 1360x768, so it has to scale down HDTV anyway |
| [10:09:52] | GreatEmerald: | Right, so my HTPC just fell asleep, let's see if it tries sleeping again when awoken |
| [10:12:15] | GreatEmerald: | Hm, yea, I got this strange error: |
| [10:12:22] | GreatEmerald: | "This application expects to be running a locale that specifies a UTF-8 codeset, and many features may behave improperly with your current language settings. Please set the LC_ALL or LC_CTYPE, and LANG variable(s) in the environment in which this program is executed to include a UTF-8 codeset (such as 'en_US.UTF-8')." |
| [10:12:44] | GreatEmerald: | Except that my locale is already lt_LT.UTF-8 |
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| [10:14:24] | GreatEmerald: | Also, "(InitLocale) – Setting QT default locale to en_LT" – where does it take the "en" from, I wonder |
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| [10:19:10] | GreatEmerald: | Ah, I think I know why it won't sleep again, it's set to not sleep until a frontend connects |
| [10:19:28] | GreatEmerald: | And there's no frontend running if I need to turn off XBMC in the first place |
| [10:20:25] | GreatEmerald: | So the XBMC plugin needs to explicitly tell mythbackend that it's idling, right? I can tell that to the developers of cmyth, they should be able to sort that out |
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| [10:26:02] | wagnerrp: | not exactly. it's just a question of how the client connects to the backend |
| [10:26:20] | wagnerrp: | a client reporting itself as 'Playback' will block shutdown |
| [10:26:26] | wagnerrp: | while a client reporting as 'Monitor' will not |
| [10:28:53] | GreatEmerald: | I also went over the XBMC PVR options, and they have a way to turn off things when idle as well. But I don't suppose it ties into mythbackend. |
| [10:30:17] | GreatEmerald: | I could have XBMC suspend things, but I'm not sure if mythbackend would appreciate it, in case it's running some tasks itself... |
| [10:32:58] | GreatEmerald: | Hm, yea, this is what the log says when XBMC is turned on: |
| [10:33:05] | GreatEmerald: | "(HandleAnnounce) – MainServer::ANN Playback" |
| [10:33:17] | GreatEmerald: | "(HandleAnnounce) – adding: dragon as a client (events: 0)" |
| [10:33:34] | GreatEmerald: | (my HTPC is called "dragon") |
| [10:34:05] | GreatEmerald: | Also, thre's this error: "(HandleVersion) – MainServer::HandleVersion – Client speaks protocol version 8 but we speak 75!" |
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| [10:34:37] | wagnerrp: | yes, xbmc is still being stupid, regardless of how many times we've told them that's stupid |
| [10:34:46] | GreatEmerald: | heh |
| [10:35:29] | wagnerrp: | used to be they just got the version we responded, and arbitrarily reconnected with that |
| [10:35:48] | wagnerrp: | now, there's a token they must send to verify they actually understand how to speak that |
| [10:36:18] | wagnerrp: | but it still makes no sense to start with version 8, as opposed to the version they actually want to speak |
| [10:38:09] | GreatEmerald: | And apparently there are some missing thumbnails, which causes the log to output a bunch of "(OpenFile) – FileRingBuf(/home/dainius/mythtv/1065_20130225200000.mpg.png): OpenFile(): Could not open." |
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| [10:39:48] | GreatEmerald: | Though isn't it something mythpreviewgen should handle? |
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| [10:52:20] | GreatEmerald: | And I wonder, how does mythfrontend deal with the idling issue? Does it have to reconnect with a different mode when it stops playback, or can the mode be changed at will? |
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| [11:00:40] | wagnerrp: | there is a command to allow changing of mode without reconnection |
| [11:01:03] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend is typically always in active mode |
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| [11:01:29] | wagnerrp: | the special 'idle mode' in mythfrontend switches the primary link to monitor, to allow the backend to shut down as it sees fit |
| [11:01:44] | GreatEmerald: | Well, it does go to sleep correctly when it's idling in the main menu of mythfrontend |
| [11:01:55] | GreatEmerald: | ah |
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| [11:44:43] | lapion: | hello, What ever happened to mythstream ? |
| [11:47:12] | sphery: | seems it's still at the same location: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html , but was never really updated after the Qt4 switch |
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| [11:53:47] | lapion: | do you know if it works under 0.26? |
| [11:58:58] | sphery: | doesn't seem to, since it hasn't really been updated since 2009 |
| [11:59:09] | sphery: | or, doesn't seem likely |
| [11:59:39] | sphery: | that said, new mythmusic has much of the internet radio capabilities of mythstream |
| [12:00:19] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythMusic + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythMusic_Radio_Streaming |
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| [16:14:32] | mcmoyer: | On Mythweb (mythtv .26), whenever I'm navigating to a programs detail page, it looks like the grabber kicks in and tries to fill out information. This can hold up the rendering of the page for quite a bit. |
| [16:14:51] | mcmoyer: | Is there a way to not have it check every time I go to that page? |
| [16:23:18] | mcmoyer: | This is what the backend shows: https://gist.github.com/mcmoyer/463edd6c28f9b4773ed0 |
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| [16:41:10] | lapion: | sphery, MythStream also did dutch public tv webvideo |
| [16:42:07] | sphery: | lapion: yeah, in theory you'd want to make a MythNetvision grabber to handle that |
| [16:42:25] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision |
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| [16:42:52] | sphery: | so MythMusic would be internet radio/audio streams and MythNetvision would be internet video streams |
| [16:43:09] | lapion: | ok thank you |
| [16:43:14] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision_Grabber_Script_Format has info on creating a grabber |
| [16:43:38] | sphery: | but using existing grabbers as a template may be the easiest approach |
| [16:44:26] | sphery: | that said, I think some of the music streaming support requires unstable/development code |
| [16:44:31] | sphery: | but come 0.27 |
| [16:44:33] | sphery: | ... |
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| [18:55:38] | DarthFrog: | Hi folks. Mythweb is trying to connect to mysql on 192.168.1.100 (my machine's IP address) rather than via /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock and failing. I can't find where this connection data is configured. Could some kind soul please tell me where to look? |
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| [18:59:09] | kormoc: | DarthFrog, we don't support using a unix socket at this time |
| [19:02:26] | DarthFrog: | Hmm. Mythweb used to work fine. I don't think I did anything to change it but obviously something changed. |
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| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | did the mysql server change ips? |
| [19:06:04] | DarthFrog: | It's running locally. |
| [19:06:21] | DarthFrog: | I'm running 0.27, BTW. |
| [19:06:53] | DarthFrog: | And the mysql server address is 127.0.0.1 in mythtv-setup and is immutable. |
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| [19:12:04] | eee-blt: | hi, i wonder if someone could recommend a pci x1 tuner card for use with myth? |
| [19:12:48] | DarthFrog: | Shouldn't "bind-address=0.0.0.0" in /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf" allow all connections? |
| [19:13:10] | eee-blt: | i prefer a linux-friendly manufacturer, if possible |
| [19:15:02] | tgm4883: | DarthFrog, I believe it does |
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| [19:16:15] | DarthFrog: | tgm4883: that line was commented out. I enabled it. I guess I'll wait till this show finshes recording, then restart mysql and see if that fixes it. |
| [19:17:06] | DarthFrog: | eee-blt: Why don't you check the hardware listed in the wiki? |
| [19:18:55] | DarthFrog: | eee-blt: I've given up on the PCI Hauppauge cards. I have a bunch of 150, 250, 350 and 500 cards now gathering dust. I'm now using the external Hauppaube HD-PVR component capture box. |
| [19:20:33] | DarthFrog: | I find the PCI Hauppauge cards, using the IVTV driver, to now be very unreliable. They give 0 byte recordings mostly. |
| [19:22:42] | ForsGump: | DarthFrog, I also use a series of HD-PVRs, I was thinking of converting my old 150/250/500s to provide closed captioning for the HD-PVR recordings per the workaround on the wiki (but I haven't dug them out of their box yet) |
| [19:24:34] | ForsGump: | wonder if they're reliable enough to feed that.. |
| [19:26:23] | DarthFrog: | ForsGump: How many HD-PVRs are you using? All on the same backend? |
| [19:27:30] | ForsGump: | I use 3, 1 per secondary backend (also have some hdhomeruns with antenna) |
| [19:30:26] | DarthFrog: | Why secondary backends? |
| [19:31:03] | ForsGump: | well, technically they are secondary backend-frontends. Whole house MythTV system, got lots of TVs :) |
| [19:33:07] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: I have looked on the wiki, both mythtv's and linuxtv, but the wikis seem a bit out of date compared to what i am reading elsewhere |
| [19:34:02] | jamesd_: | how painful is wireless for a frontend playing back 1080i tv programs |
| [19:35:39] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: i am surprised, what got me hooked on myth was the pvr-150 card that i bought for < $20 finally gave me a working installation |
| [19:36:42] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: until i got that hauppauge card, i battled with a couple cards whose chipsets had changed and the linux drivers hadn't caught up |
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| [19:37:56] | DarthFrog: | eee-blt: Once the US switched to digital TV broadcasts, it seemed the ivtv driver/Hauppauge cards were orphaned by MythTV. |
| [19:38:19] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: mind you, i am recording from an analogue cable signal (charter), so any hd stuff is useless for me |
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| [19:38:49] | DarthFrog: | Canada switched to digital TV last year and I've never had the cards working with set-top digital boxes. |
| [19:39:25] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: it seems ota us tv is digital, but like i said, charter still supplies its basic cable via an analogue signal |
| [19:39:43] | DarthFrog: | eee-blt: Cherish them. :-) |
| [19:39:58] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: are you in canada? whereabouts? |
| [19:40:16] | DarthFrog: | eee-blt: Burnaby, BC |
| [19:40:28] | DarthFrog: | i.e. Vancouver. |
| [19:40:42] | jamesd_: | except hdhomerun boxes have no analog so stuck with antennas for timewarner cable |
| [19:41:46] | DarthFrog: | jamesd_: I have no experience with wireless with 1080i but I should think that wireless-N would do OK. |
| [19:43:02] | eee-blt: | DarthFrog: i'm a canadian expat from ontario; i hadn't realized it took so long for the country to go digital. i was living in the uk when they went, ages ago it seems. |
| [19:43:18] | jamesd_: | i will be testing g... its an old pci wireless card in my son's computer, if he doesn't like it we can run a cat5 to his room or he can watch it recorded shows on another tv |
| [19:44:27] | eee-blt: | jamesd_: i don't recall where, but the mythtv webpage suggests using direct ethernet, and recommends against wireless-n and even powerline ethernet connections |
| [19:44:32] | DarthFrog: | jamesd_: If available, I always prefer Cat 5 to any wireless. :-) |
| [19:44:39] | ForsGump: | jamesd_ : MPEG4 (HD-PVR) or MPEG2 (OTA, QAM)? files are different |
| [19:44:43] | ForsGump: | ? |
| [19:45:03] | jamesd_: | over the air... |
| [19:45:06] | jamesd_: | digital |
| [19:45:25] | ForsGump: | those big files would best be served over wire |
| [19:46:25] | ForsGump: | IMHO :) |
| [19:46:42] | jamesd_: | yeah i figured as munch... its only an afterthought... the kid barely sits still for video game the idea of sitting down to watch a recording isn't very likely anyway |
| [19:49:17] | jamesd_: | yeah just transfering the frontend mythtv exe file is going slow.. transfered to the fileserver in less than a second.. downloading it onto his box 2 minutes... |
| [19:50:57] | DarthFrog: | That doesn't sound promising for streaming MythTV recordings. |
| [19:55:58] | ForsGump: | Save the frustration, grab a cheap patch cable from (monoprice|your favorite cable vendor) |
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| [20:06:30] | jamesd_: | ForsGump, didn't want to run a cable to his room... he's upstairs and don't want to drill more holes in the wall... |
| [20:07:48] | jamesd_: | and his tv is on the farthest wall and across the hall from the master bedroom that has the nearest switch. |
| [20:13:10] | jamesd_: | damm leave the mythtv community for 5 years, and they make everything smaller except the recordings and tv's... just got an mce remote control delivered, the reciver is tiny much smaller than the old one. |
| [20:13:20] | eee-blt: | jamesd_: powerline ethernet might work for you; there is also ethernet over coax if you already have coax to the room |
| [20:14:45] | jamesd_: | not worth the hassle... no recordings for him... he's 22.. he wants recording he can replace the wireless card with a 5ghz N class one |
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| [20:35:14] | ForsGump: | jamesd_: understandable. N might work if the signal is good |
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| [20:36:40] | jamesd_: | about 20ft from the wifi, no wireless phones.. should be good. |
| [20:37:53] | jamesd_: | now for my next trick, watch me pull a rabbit out my hat, er use a toshiba netbook as a front end, but at least its wired. |
| [20:41:16] | ForsGump: | netbook? |
| [20:41:54] | ForsGump: | unless those've changed over the years, that might not have enough power to render 1080i |
| [20:44:17] | jamesd_: | http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/mini- . . . b505-n508bl/ |
| [20:49:15] | ForsGump: | hmm. let me know how that goes |
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| [21:14:30] | jamesd_: | results are in... for standard def its great, for 720 ( not sure if its i or p.. its fox) its fine, 1080i pushes it to the max... think i can tune the system and make it usable. |
| [21:15:26] | jamesd_: | this is on windows 7, starter edition using pre-built mythtv frontend .25 |
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| [21:22:11] | ForsGump: | interesting. |
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