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| [00:53:14] | delusr_laptop: | Where can I find a list of supported USB DVB-T stick ? |
| [00:55:53] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [00:55:53] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [00:57:19] | delusr_laptop: | So any thing that linux supports will work on mythtv ? |
| [00:57:40] | wagnerrp: | anything that properly implements the linux DVB API should work with mythtv |
| [00:57:49] | delusr_laptop: | Thanks |
| [00:58:23] | delusr_laptop: | Is there a log of MythLogBot responces? |
| [00:58:34] | wagnerrp: | !help |
| [00:58:42] | wagnerrp: | !help list |
| [00:58:48] | wagnerrp: | !lisy |
| [00:58:50] | wagnerrp: | !list |
| [01:00:47] | delusr_laptop: | One lst thing whats the difference between DVB-T and DVB-T2? |
| [01:00:59] | wagnerrp: | modulation |
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| [01:01:56] | delusr_laptop: | Which works best in Australia or where do I look to find out |
| [01:03:35] | wagnerrp: | T |
| [01:03:42] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 yesterday you told me to find orphans script to clear out my old recordings that didn't have a file associated with them |
| [01:03:57] | Bray90820: | it appeared to work have fixed my recording probelum |
| [01:04:06] | Bray90820: | i just wan to know why that was the case |
| [01:05:56] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, IDK, I was just fixing issues in your log |
| [01:06:10] | tgm4883: | i dont recall exactly what the errors were |
| [01:06:43] | tgm4883: | but id imagine there could have been scheduling and/or space issues |
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| [01:08:05] | tgm4883: | IIRC, it was trying to expire things, which indicates maybe space or other restrictions you had set |
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| [01:22:14] | Bray90820: | so is it a bad idea to delete videos from xbmc |
| [01:22:40] | wagnerrp: | no idea. you would have to ask the xbmc people if they screwed that up |
| [01:22:47] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, it's a bad idea to delete videos improperly |
| [01:22:57] | tgm4883: | and it would appear that XBMC is doing it improperly |
| [01:23:08] | Bray90820: | :( |
| [01:23:19] | Bray90820: | what would be a proper way to do it |
| [01:23:25] | Bray90820: | just delete the file itself |
| [01:23:26] | wagnerrp: | with mythtv? |
| [01:23:37] | tgm4883: | no, that would be what XBMC did |
| [01:23:43] | wagnerrp: | no, if you delete the file, you leave an orphaned metadata entry |
| [01:23:44] | tgm4883: | you should ask the backend to delete the file |
| [01:24:17] | Bray90820: | well then i am no 100% sure that xbmc was doing it improperly |
| [01:24:38] | Bray90820: | because i was also deleting them manually |
| [01:25:09] | tgm4883: | Don't do that then |
| [01:25:25] | ** tgm4883 is unsure how you even figured out which files to delete ** | |
| [01:25:50] | Bray90820: | well from xbmc it was easy |
| [01:26:13] | Bray90820: | because everything was name correctly |
| [01:26:29] | Bray90820: | but with the file view i had the time and network in the name so i knew |
| [01:26:42] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, don't manually delete files from the filesystem |
| [01:27:05] | tgm4883: | everytime you delete a file improperly, wagnerrp kills a kitten |
| [01:27:09] | tgm4883: | please think of the kittens |
| [01:27:17] | wagnerrp: | meaning, you weren't even using mythbox? you just pointed xbmc at the recordings directory? |
| [01:27:17] | Bray90820: | lol |
| [01:27:31] | Bray90820: | no'i was using cmyth |
| [01:27:32] | ** wagnerrp gets a cleaver... ** | |
| [01:27:34] | Bray90820: | not mythbox |
| [01:27:54] | Bray90820: | mythbox isn't supported anymore |
| [01:28:00] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression cmyth was just a low level C library |
| [01:28:30] | Bray90820: | i don't know |
| [01:28:44] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, IIRC, the mythtv integration in XBMC is called "MythTV with cmyth" or something like that |
| [01:28:53] | Bray90820: | yes |
| [01:29:12] | Bray90820: | is it ok to do delete files from the filesystem if i run the find orphans script after |
| [01:29:19] | wagnerrp: | no |
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| [01:29:29] | wagnerrp: | if you have to run that script, it means something bad has happened |
| [01:29:31] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, why don't you care for the kittens! |
| [01:29:42] | Bray90820: | lol |
| [01:29:47] | Bray90820: | but seriously |
| [01:30:31] | tgm4883: | seriously don't do that |
| [01:30:37] | tgm4883: | why do you WANT to do that |
| [01:31:56] | Bray90820: | the way my setup is the 2 only real convenient ways are from xbmc or from the file system |
| [01:32:00] | Bray90820: | but anyways i gotta go |
| [01:32:04] | ** Bray90820 is away ** | |
| [01:33:02] | wagnerrp: | then if xbmc is deleting things improperly, go complain to xbmc |
| [01:33:57] | wagnerrp: | if you delete things from the filesystem, mythtv has no way of knowing those recordings were intentionally deleted, or if there was some kind of recoverable malfunction |
| [01:34:25] | wagnerrp: | it errors on the safe side, and assumes it was unintentional, leaving the metadata around to use for when you recover the file |
| [01:35:23] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, lets change that. Make mythtv think it was intentional, and that you also meant to delete 3 other random recordings |
| [01:36:16] | wagnerrp: | i could get mythfs running again, and add a delete function |
| [01:37:13] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'm stealing more of your stuff |
| [01:37:48] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [01:38:26] | tgm4883: | I pulled searchMythFE for my unity scope |
| [01:38:41] | wagnerrp: | have at it |
| [01:38:47] | tgm4883: | since it's python3, I can't just use your stuff |
| [01:38:56] | tgm4883: | can't import* |
| [01:39:00] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [01:39:42] | wagnerrp: | i think i'll put prefixes on inetref tonight... |
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| [01:48:52] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, does the frontend service API not return JSON like the rest of the APIs? |
| [01:49:28] | wagnerrp: | it should, if you tell it to |
| [01:49:50] | tgm4883: | I can get XML from it, but I can't get JSON from it the same way I do the others |
| [01:49:54] | tgm4883: | although |
| [01:50:05] | wagnerrp: | the API stuff? or the UPNP stuff? |
| [01:50:08] | tgm4883: | I suppose this isn't really one of the service API's |
| [01:50:23] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I'm trying the get desc page |
| [01:50:34] | tgm4883: | /getDeviceDesc |
| [01:50:53] | tgm4883: | since what I really want is a friendly name for display |
| [01:55:07] | delusr_laptop: | What DVB-t USB sticks do you guys recommend, Ive spent all morning on ebay compairing items with items on http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Device_Vendors and Im so confused. |
| [01:55:35] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i don't recommend DVB-T or USB anything |
| [01:56:04] | delusr_laptop: | I only have laptops |
| [01:56:23] | wagnerrp: | good reason to go dumpster diving for a desktop |
| [01:57:06] | delusr_laptop: | power is an issue when running house on a generator/solar |
| [01:57:30] | wagnerrp: | so have mythtv go into standby when not actively playing or recording |
| [01:57:51] | delusr_laptop: | not an option |
| [01:57:54] | tgm4883: | buy a low power device? New systems can be quite low power (even the powerful ones) |
| [01:58:01] | wagnerrp: | how is that not an option? |
| [01:58:11] | delusr_laptop: | power |
| [01:58:43] | wagnerrp: | so because you have to keep power low, you can't use a power-saving mechanism that drops power consumption down to a watt or two? |
| [02:00:26] | delusr_laptop: | Sorry thought this was the mythtv irc channel I'm not here to argue just looking for help in relation to DVB-t USB devices. |
| [02:00:48] | wagnerrp: | this is the mythtv IRC channel |
| [02:00:58] | wagnerrp: | however, both of the users in here are located in the US |
| [02:01:06] | wagnerrp: | so we have no experience with DVB-T devices to recommend any |
| [02:01:09] | tgm4883: | 'Merica |
| [02:01:36] | wagnerrp: | over here, we use ATSC |
| [02:01:37] | delusr_laptop: | No Aussies here? |
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| [02:02:06] | wagnerrp: | you'll probably have better luck waiting around a few hours for some europeans to wake up |
| [02:02:24] | delusr_laptop: | thanks |
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| [02:17:59] | wagnerrp: | i think mzb is an aussie |
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| [03:01:15] | Korny: | Evening all |
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| [03:40:39] | JustTom: | Wondering if it is possible to downgrade the firmware on an HD-PVR? |
| [03:41:01] | JustTom: | I've got one acting a little funkey and I wanted to try downgrading and re-upgrading |
| [03:41:10] | JustTom: | Anyone here ever try this? |
| [03:45:55] | wagnerrp: | can't you just push the same firmware a second time? |
| [03:46:09] | wagnerrp: | not sure why you would need to downgrade and then upgrade |
| [03:47:09] | JustTom: | wagnerrp, that woudl be nice, but not sure if I can. Seems that the windows software just looks to see if there is NEW firmware and only sends stuff if there is. |
| [03:47:21] | JustTom: | Guess I'm looking for a way for force the writing of new firmware |
| [03:47:32] | wagnerrp: | there's no linux utility for flashing? |
| [03:47:35] | JustTom: | wether its the same current version or not |
| [03:47:44] | Korny: | or force option? |
| [03:47:53] | JustTom: | Myth wiki says that you have to use Windows... |
| [03:49:18] | neufeld: | The (Windows) firmware installer will write whatever firmware change you like to the device, whether that's a forward or backward revision. Never tried it with a same-version overstrike. |
| [03:50:13] | JustTom: | Oh, OK |
| [03:50:17] | JustTom: | cool |
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| [03:53:17] | JustTom: | neufeld: is the firmeare installer your talking about the the "HD-PVR applicatoin and Windows driver" that is for download here: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/support_hdpvr.html? |
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| [04:02:19] | neufeld: | JustTom: yes. I tried two versions. 1.5.7.0 and 1.7.1.30059 |
| [04:02:51] | neufeld: | JustTom: I'm using 1.5.7.0 now, there's a saturation bug in 1.7.1.30059, and no detectable advantages to using it over the older version. |
| [04:03:09] | JustTom: | neufeld: You don't still have that old version around do you? |
| [04:03:31] | JustTom: | I don't see anywhere to get the old version on their website |
| [04:04:07] | neufeld: | I'll stick it up for download... |
| [04:04:31] | JustTom: | Awesome – thanks! |
| [04:04:52] | neufeld: | http://www.cneufeld.ca/neufeld/hdpvr_1.5.7.0.zip md5sum is 857a80648d75a9bd3d38d380bbf520af. Let me know when you have it, and I'll delete it. |
| [04:08:05] | JustTom: | Got it, thanks! |
| [04:08:08] | neufeld: | OK |
| [04:09:06] | ** neufeld goes AFK, it's bed time ** | |
| [04:09:28] | JustTom: | 'night |
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| [05:01:04] | wagnerrp: | christ... updating steam is a 110MB download? |
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| [05:14:28] | Korny: | hey wagnerrp is there a way to access user jobs in mythweb? |
| [05:15:13] | wagnerrp: | if you have defined them, mythweb will give you the option of running them in the recording details pages |
| [05:16:10] | Korny: | I found it |
| [05:16:27] | Korny: | you have to goto settings and "all hosts" |
| [05:16:39] | Korny: | hmmm trying to figure out why my job didn't work |
| [05:16:56] | Korny: | mythlink.pl --link /mnt/seagate5/mythlink --chanid "%CHANID%" --starttime "%STARTTIME%" --format '%T/%T%-%S' |
| [05:16:57] | wagnerrp: | wait, you're trying to create a new user job through mythweb? |
| [05:16:59] | Korny: | as a user job |
| [05:17:11] | Korny: | I'm trying to figure out why it didn't work |
| [05:17:30] | wagnerrp: | did you specify it as runnable on that profile? |
| [05:18:07] | wagnerrp: | there is a per-profile setting to select what jobs can run where |
| [05:18:13] | Korny: | I clicked the button in mythbackend setup |
| [05:18:17] | Korny: | that set user job 1 |
| [05:19:01] | Korny: | hmmm can I access my logs remotely? |
| [05:19:11] | Korny: | isn't it port 6544? |
| [05:19:14] | Korny: | or somethign like that |
| [05:21:00] | Korny: | suppose I could just use the system event feature |
| [05:21:36] | Korny: | not sure if I can remotely access that via mythweb, run mythlink.pl |
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| [06:43:24] | Korny: | wagnerrp, if I unmount a drive will mythtv backend crash if it tries to use it? |
| [06:43:53] | wagnerrp: | if you unmount a drive while it is in use, linux will prevent you, claiming the filesystem is in use |
| [06:44:11] | Korny: | but if its not in use, just the back end is idling |
| [06:44:24] | wagnerrp: | if you unmount the drive prior to it being in use, mythtv will detect that the recording directory does not exist, and will simply chose somewhere else to record to |
| [06:44:34] | Korny: | ok |
| [06:44:49] | Korny: | My wife says she hears clicking and some recordings are pixelated |
| [06:47:11] | Korny: | Does this drive look like a culpert http://pastebin.com/uc5fDveF |
| [06:47:34] | Korny: | 188 Command time is sky high |
| [06:48:37] | Korny: | smart says its healthy though :/ |
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| [07:16:41] | Shadow__X: | Korny: seagate reports smart info differently that other HD's |
| [07:17:08] | Korny: | All my other seagates are really low on that value |
| [07:17:22] | Shadow__X: | they report it as a avg afaik |
| [07:17:31] | Shadow__X: | so it can vary per drive |
| [07:17:53] | Shadow__X: | the drive can be failing. If you hear clicking that would not be good |
| [07:18:53] | Korny: | so hard to find out which one |
| [07:19:21] | Korny: | I'm going to have to break out my screwdriver to listen to them |
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| [12:06:08] | lapion: | does anyone in here have any recent experience with hauppauge pvr 150 ? |
| [12:06:36] | lapion: | wagnerrp, do you have any experience with pvr-150 ? |
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| [15:03:42] | Chicago: | Hello gents, I noticed recently the HDHomerun Prime supports MTU=9000 Jumbo frames. I thought maybe it was worth mentioning here in case someone hasn't thought to try yet. |
| [15:04:11] | monkeypet69: | what's the performance gain? |
| [15:04:19] | monkeypet69: | you saw any? |
| [15:04:43] | Chicago: | There is less overhead in the TCP transmissions due to the previous packet max would likely have been MTU=1500 for most. |
| [15:05:14] | Chicago: | The performance gain is still under evaluation. It does appear my streams start faster from the mythfrontend. |
| [15:06:03] | Chicago: | monkeypet69, the goal was to try using a MTU=9000 video lan for the HDHomerun Prime to interface the mythbackend. That all seems to be working now. |
| [15:06:07] | wagnerrp: | yeah, "faster" would be measured in microseconds |
| [15:06:27] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, probably |
| [15:07:21] | Chicago: | There also may be increased benefit if using MTU=9000 lans when backend jobs cause big recordings to be transferred across the network to be transcoded/commercial flagged by another mythbackend. |
| [15:07:47] | Chicago: | Since the HDHomerun Prime didn't have a TCP/IP configuration page I was very skeptical of whether it would just work. |
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| [15:10:46] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I figure since you wired in all those CAT6 connections last time we were chatting that you'd probably already increased the MTU on your network. |
| [15:12:34] | monkeypet69: | one of my hitachi hd is running at 49C |
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| [15:13:02] | wagnerrp: | on the machines that support it, sure... |
| [15:13:06] | Chicago: | monkeypet69, thats pretty warm |
| [15:13:27] | wagnerrp: | but it's not like 1500->9000, or even ->16000 really makes that much difference |
| [15:13:35] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I play to try some Type of Service TCP changes for low delay and max throughput to see how thats gonna make any differences |
| [15:13:45] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I agree you are right the differences are negligible |
| [15:13:46] | wagnerrp: | good networking gear should be able to handle the packet throughput just fine anyway |
| [15:14:02] | wagnerrp: | and the overhead really isn't that much |
| [15:14:19] | wagnerrp: | no, i wired my home with CAT6 so i didn't have to use wireless |
| [15:14:24] | Chicago: | bueno |
| [15:14:31] | monkeypet69: | http://pastebin.com/NP5essaC |
| [15:14:45] | monkeypet69: | the hitachi drives are running hotter than all the other drives. |
| [15:15:08] | Chicago: | Is the /dev/sdg sitting sandwiched between other drives? |
| [15:15:15] | wagnerrp: | i've actually found seagate to run hottest for me |
| [15:15:26] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, all models or just some particular ones? |
| [15:15:40] | Chicago: | The Seagate ST31000340NS drives stay nice and cool for me ( they're only SATA2 though ) |
| [15:16:14] | Chicago: | although for that model – I've found the firmware and drive part number makes a difference by ~10 degrees celsius |
| [15:16:45] | monkeypet69: | I just need fans blowing air on the drives, sysfan went out a few months back. |
| [15:16:53] | Chicago: | that's pretty important |
| [15:16:58] | monkeypet69: | operating with an open case. muhahaha. |
| [15:17:03] | Chicago: | muhahahahah |
| [15:17:31] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/1yA8DDTe |
| [15:17:39] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I'm interested in whether this gear I have will support MTU=16000 |
| [15:17:42] | monkeypet69: | whenever I touch this damn antec case, it draws blood. hates. |
| [15:17:56] | Chicago: | get less steel and more aluminum :) |
| [15:18:05] | wagnerrp: | the only gear i've seen that goes up to 16000 is intel gigabit hardware |
| [15:18:48] | Chicago: | Hmm... well I suspect I'm not going to be able to play then. I think these HP switches are maxed near 9000... the Intel server nics would probably do it though. |
| [15:18:50] | monkeypet69: | Chicago: wow, great temps on your drives. |
| [15:20:04] | wagnerrp: | cold basement, and they're in a set of four 3-in-2 drive bays with 80mm fans on the rear |
| [15:21:00] | Chicago: | I'm pulling in hddtemp to check on my heat now. :p |
| [15:22:07] | wagnerrp: | am i graphing that? |
| [15:22:28] | wagnerrp: | no. i did previously, but i'm not currently |
| [15:23:41] | Chicago: | That said – I need to melt some temperatures on my battery of disks... they're sitting at range of temps from 42C to 45C |
| [15:24:59] | Chicago: | The chassis has these 2 containers that hold 5 disks easy but only have 3 tiny fans on the back of each of the containers... |
| [15:25:17] | Chicago: | I kinda would have liked to have the chassis put a pair of 120mm fans in front of them. |
| [15:26:00] | monkeypet69: | my plan this weekend is to cleanup this case and get the fans spinning again, been lazy. |
| [15:26:10] | Chicago: | kewl |
| [15:26:19] | Chicago: | Are you a smoker? |
| [15:26:48] | Chicago: | I have to take a vacuum to the inside of my servers about once a year because of how much air moves through them. |
| [15:27:16] | monkeypet69: | is there a fix to get the fans spinning again? I was going to try to vacuum. |
| [15:27:27] | Chicago: | my fix is just to buy ball bearing fans |
| [15:27:45] | Chicago: | compressed air containers will blow out dust bunnies too |
| [15:27:55] | Chicago: | The vacuum is dangerous. |
| [15:28:05] | Chicago: | You'll pull off parts like fans if you're not careful |
| [15:28:37] | monkeypet69: | also my cpu throttles at peak load, i think my system will die soon. |
| [15:28:54] | Chicago: | well while you're in there, clean and apply new thermal goo |
| [15:31:53] | wagnerrp: | fluid dynamic > ball |
| [15:32:18] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, I'm sure much quieter too yeah? |
| [15:32:31] | wagnerrp: | generally |
| [15:32:39] | wagnerrp: | more importantly, they don't wear out |
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| [15:33:50] | wagnerrp: | i've had a big 120x38mm fdb panaflo running nonstop since 2005 |
| [15:33:55] | monkeypet69: | yay, my HDHR doesn't need to be continuously pinged anymore, not sure what fixed the issue though. |
| [15:34:07] | wagnerrp: | 'course it could be evil, and powered by the blood of my fingers |
| [15:34:32] | monkeypet69: | Chicago: what did you do to get the MTU 9000 working, just configure your switch and interface? |
| [15:34:34] | Chicago: | indeed |
| [15:34:55] | Chicago: | monkeypet69, well firstly I had the updated firmware on the HDHomerun Prime, but I'm not sure that was needed. |
| [15:35:39] | Chicago: | monkeypet69, next I setup a nic for a 192.168.2.0/24 lan w/ MTU=9000 and then plugged it into an Ethernet switch and then connected the HDHomerun Prime's two interfaces to it. |
| [15:35:48] | Chicago: | All nodes on that subnet should have the same MTU |
| [15:35:57] | monkeypet69: | Chicago: you sure you are operating at MTU=9000 and something else isn't segmenting right? |
| [15:36:10] | Chicago: | monkeypet69, what? |
| [15:36:33] | wagnerrp: | are you sure your switch isn't automatically converting between MTUs |
| [15:36:40] | Chicago: | yeah, its a dumb switch |
| [15:36:42] | Chicago: | unmanaged |
| [15:37:05] | Chicago: | Wait are y'all trying to troubleshoot it for me? I reported it as working =) |
| [15:37:05] | monkeypet69: | you ran a packet dump to check? |
| [15:37:10] | Chicago: | yes |
| [15:37:31] | monkeypet69: | cool. |
| [15:37:36] | wagnerrp: | as far as i know, MTU isn't something that "autoconfigures" itself |
| [15:37:39] | Chicago: | its quite awesome for NFSroot too |
| [15:38:01] | wagnerrp: | you either accept the packet, or you drop it if the MTU is too large |
| [15:38:14] | wagnerrp: | there's no negotiation to determine the combined maximum size |
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| [15:57:54] | johnsu01: | any ideas why the guide might complain that there are no channels defined, when select * from channels shows lots? |
| [15:58:05] | johnsu01: | and live tv knows about channels |
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| [16:06:46] | johnsu01: | eit is not on, I don't think |
| [16:09:02] | Chicago: | do you have all your video sources defined |
| [16:09:06] | Chicago: | have you ran mythfilldatabase? |
| [16:09:13] | Chicago: | Does mythtv-setup show all of the channels? |
| [16:09:20] | johnsu01: | yes to all |
| [16:09:35] | Chicago: | Is this the only frontend with trouble? |
| [16:09:43] | johnsu01: | yes (also the only frontend) |
| [16:09:51] | Chicago: | interesting |
| [16:09:53] | Chicago: | new install? |
| [16:09:57] | johnsu01: | yeah |
| [16:10:03] | johnsu01: | let me double check the mythtv-setup channel list |
| [16:10:03] | Chicago: | which version? |
| [16:10:24] | johnsu01: | 0.26 |
| [16:11:32] | johnsu01: | also not sure which debug setting might show the errors, -v all is too much and I haven't gotten anything else to show more beyond the basic guide complaint that there are no channels |
| [16:12:25] | Chicago: | if its a new install |
| [16:12:29] | Chicago: | Just try to start over. |
| [16:12:31] | Chicago: | That's an odd error |
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| [16:14:09] | johnsu01: | mythtv-setup has all of the channels |
| [16:16:32] | johnsu01: | trying mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
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| [16:35:06] | Chicago: | johnsu01, any luck? |
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| [16:47:31] | johnsu01: | Chicago: nope, mythfilldatabase got all the data and the guide still doesn't know about it |
| [16:49:48] | johnsu01: | I feel like it's probably a database access problem somewhere.. |
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| [16:51:27] | Chicago: | well, from the frontend test with ' mysql -h theip -u mythtv -p mythconverg ' |
| [16:52:35] | johnsu01: | yeah that works fine |
| [16:53:46] | Chicago: | btw if its a new install |
| [16:53:49] | johnsu01: | select * from channel; |
| [16:53:51] | johnsu01: | shows channels |
| [16:53:53] | Chicago: | did you get messages about the database needing timezone data |
| [16:53:57] | johnsu01: | although weirdly there are a lot of asian characters |
| [16:54:23] | johnsu01: | Chicago: hm, no, but I did see a lot of failed to add so-and-so timezone messages |
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| [16:58:57] | Chicago: | johnsu01, try to resolve that. Its something that should be done after creating the mythconverg database before starting mythbackend |
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| [17:05:07] | tgm4883: | Chicago, the failed to add timezone messages are probably fine |
| [17:05:37] | tgm4883: | Chicago, you get that in Mythbuntu packages if the timezones are already added |
| [17:05:42] | Chicago: | tgm4883, trying to solve johnsu01's new installation. I seem to remember I was required to set the SQL server timezone tables before myth 26 would work for me. |
| [17:05:50] | Chicago: | I don't know if he is on Mythbuntu either |
| [17:05:55] | tgm4883: | johnsu01, you said it works in live tv? do you have guide data in live tv? |
| [17:06:13] | tgm4883: | Chicago, I would bet yes, I don't know of other packages try to add the timezone stuff for you |
| [17:06:33] | tgm4883: | And we try to add them every time, which is why the messages are ok |
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| [17:13:51] | Chicago: | Anybody have a general clue why I'm often needing to 'killall mythlogserver' from my frontend? |
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| [17:14:42] | johnsu01: | tgm4883: I do have some guide data in live tv, although it's goofy.. asian characters in the channel info box (I live in the US and schedules direct is set to my zip code) |
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| [17:15:07] | [R]: | Chicago: why do you "need" to? |
| [17:15:25] | Chicago: | [R], the processes seem to be starting continuously and they kill the computer. |
| [17:15:43] | [R]: | "starting continuously"? |
| [17:15:46] | [R]: | there should be 1 instnace |
| [17:15:58] | Chicago: | [R], I know I've done something else wrong too because my Job Queue shows all red exclamation marks. |
| [17:16:07] | Chicago: | [R], yeah sometimes I get > 30 instances |
| [17:16:22] | Chicago: | [R], I haven't been able to deduce whats wrong yet. |
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| [17:20:30] | johnsu01: | tgm4883: live tv doesn't seem to have the right guide data I guess |
| [17:21:14] | johnsu01: | it has bogus times (all of them are 0 minutes) |
| [17:21:26] | johnsu01: | but if I hit the right arrow key, I get some guide data |
| [17:21:58] | johnsu01: | (while selecting a channel, that is) |
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| [17:24:59] | johnsu01: | that guide data seems to be wrong |
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| [17:44:13] | johnsu01: | I deleted all of the channels, rescanned, tried turning EIT on, then ran mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [17:44:35] | johnsu01: | now live TV has guide data which seems to be correct, but still nothing in the program guide |
| [17:54:20] | johnsu01: | select * from program; shows a lot of stuff.. |
| [17:55:55] | johnsu01: | trying truncate table program; and running mythfilldatabase again |
| [17:58:09] | johnsu01: | now I'm seeing errors in downloading the data, good |
| [17:59:32] | johnsu01: | no explanation though, just DataDirect: Failed to get data: Download error |
| [18:03:37] | johnsu01: | seems like it was temporary |
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| [20:29:06] | lapion: | does anyone in here have any recent experience with hauppauge pvr 150 ? |
| [20:32:15] | [R]: | do you have an actual question? |
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| [21:28:48] | rumblebumble: | Need some help, I want to record hockey games but only want one team. The title of the show is always "NHL Hockey" but I only want to schedule the showings will a certain team in the episode name. Is this possible? |
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| [21:29:54] | wagnerrp: | ever written any SQL? |
| [21:30:16] | wagnerrp: | a Power Rule basically lets you define your own query to match against the program table |
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| [21:30:32] | rumblebumble: | haha, not a whole lot |
| [21:31:43] | rumblebumble: | Can that be done via mythweb or do I did to edit tables |
| [21:31:58] | wagnerrp: | you do it through mythfrontend, in manage recordings |
| [21:32:00] | rumblebumble: | I try not to edit tables |
| [21:41:41] | EvilGuru: | Heh, I didn't realize how much IB HBAs had gone down in price, finally looking like 10gbit/s networking is viable |
| [21:41:44] | rumblebumble: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [21:42:35] | wagnerrp: | for an individual machine, maybe... |
| [21:42:50] | wagnerrp: | aren't decent sized switches still thousands of dollars? |
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| [21:44:30] | wagnerrp: | wait, IB? you mean infiniband? |
| [21:44:48] | wagnerrp: | not 10G-BASET? |
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| [21:48:28] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Yeah, infiniband |
| [21:48:51] | wagnerrp: | i thought most IB gear ran 40G |
| [21:48:53] | EvilGuru: | 10G-BASET is still extremely expensive, but IB HCA can be found for $40 USD |
| [21:49:24] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't sound right. got a link? |
| [21:50:03] | wagnerrp: | last i checked, they were like 10x that much |
| [21:51:33] | EvilGuru: | MHEA28-XTC seeems to be the cheapest of the cards |
| [21:53:55] | wagnerrp: | so at this point, you're going to be spending more on the cabling than the HCAs? |
| [21:54:21] | EvilGuru: | Ironically, yes, although I think I may have some lurking around |
| [21:56:17] | rumblebumble: | wagnerrp, Ok I am add the power rule, Just wondering if additional tables further refines the search |
| [21:57:22] | rumblebumble: | for example I want to add program.title LIKE 'NHL Hockey' and program.subtitle LIKE '%Toronto Maple%' |
| [21:57:44] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, ive never used a power rule |
| [21:57:55] | rumblebumble: | hahaha, ok, cool |
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| [23:16:40] | tonsofpcs: | rumblebumble: just record all hockey and don't worry about it ;) |
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