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| [00:40:07] | JustTom: | hi all, having trouble all of the sudden with my HD-PVR |
| [00:40:28] | JustTom: | The unti is now longer showing up in myth |
| [00:40:49] | JustTom: | with investigating it is showing error when plugged in |
| [00:41:11] | JustTom: | usb 1–2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| [00:41:29] | JustTom: | usb 1–2: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd |
| [00:41:39] | JustTom: | are showing up on the colsole |
| [00:42:04] | [R]: | sounds like usb/hardware issues |
| [00:42:06] | [R]: | not myth issues |
| [00:42:07] | JustTom: | this is on muthbuntu 12.04 LTS |
| [00:42:25] | [R]: | try rebooting the computer and power cycling the hdpvr |
| [00:42:44] | JustTom: | I eliminated a Hw problem by plugging it into my work Windows laptop and it worked fine |
| [00:43:00] | JustTom: | I've rebooted the machine and cycled the power sever times |
| [00:43:10] | [R]: | so you proved the hdpvr works |
| [00:43:15] | [R]: | you dindt prove the usb on the computer worsk |
| [00:43:16] | JustTom: | yes |
| [00:43:21] | JustTom: | right |
| [00:43:24] | [R]: | i wound up having to get a pci usb card |
| [00:43:29] | [R]: | cuz my onboard usb was trash |
| [00:43:42] | JustTom: | interesting... |
| [00:43:57] | JustTom: | I also have a usb IR device on the onboard USB and that works |
| [00:44:30] | JustTom: | but if I leave the HDPVR plugged in it prevents my other USB devices from working |
| [00:45:38] | JustTom: | weied part is that I also plugged the PVR into a Kubuntu laptop I have and go tthe same errors |
| [00:47:11] | JustTom: | so it doesn't seem to be the usb on my mythbox |
| [00:48:12] | JustTom: | I was wondering if there might have been some kernel update that trahed thigns, but my laptop is kernel 3.5 and my mythbox is 3.2 |
| [00:48:42] | [R]: | you got the same errors beafuse the usb there is just as flaky |
| [00:49:03] | [R]: | i've used both 3.5 and 3.2 just fine |
| [00:50:13] | JustTom: | hmm, yeah maybe, seems strange that it's been working for months... |
| [00:50:23] | JustTom: | Guess I have to dig in a bit further |
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| [00:56:36] | jabain: | Hi....I was wondering if someone could help me on the mythtv-setup settings. I have having trouble adjusting bitrates with a hdpvr |
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| [01:27:35] | skd5aner: | mythlogserver on my remote SBE is taking 100% CPU on both cores :/ |
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| [01:45:48] | runelind: | wagnerrp: which logfiles will complain about delayed writes? |
| [01:45:57] | runelind: | I don't see a mythbackend log for today |
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| [03:26:46] | Korny: | Hows everyone tonight |
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| [04:57:53] | gcb: | hi there. anyone willing to help me set up a hauppauge 2250? |
| [04:58:16] | gcb: | i had it working in hours a couple weeks ago, but i replaced the HD and now i can't get it to function again |
| [04:58:35] | gcb: | i get no channels on the scan from setup |
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| [05:05:31] | Korny: | Afraid I'd be no help with that but if you stay around someone will come on eventually :( |
| [05:05:46] | gcb: | thanks |
| [05:06:12] | gcb: | is drgee craz.... was working perfectly before |
| [05:06:24] | gcb: | *driving me crazy |
| [05:06:35] | gcb: | wireless keyboard eating letters :) |
| [05:07:40] | gcb: | i get the probe info correct with V4l, mjpeg and mpeg-2... trying with them all for now as i don't remember what i used before |
| [05:07:45] | Lexridge: | gcb, do you subscribe to a tv listings service? I found I could not make it find any channels until I subscribed to SchedulesDirect. |
| [05:08:21] | gcb: | never used that. im trying to get the hand of it before i joing the schedulesdirect |
| [05:08:27] | gcb: | it was working before with the OTA guide |
| [05:09:37] | Lexridge: | Okay, well I cannot argue with your previous success. |
| [05:10:38] | gcb: | it was so easy the first time i didn't bother to take notes :/ lesson learned |
| [05:11:43] | Lexridge: | Just keep at it. You will figure out what you missed. It happens to me every single time I do a reinstall . |
| [05:11:56] | Lexridge: | I always forget one little thing. |
| [05:13:11] | Lexridge: | I have never been able to get my SV input working since my last install. |
| [05:13:44] | gcb: | what's an SV? |
| [05:13:50] | Lexridge: | S-VHS video input. |
| [05:13:54] | Lexridge: | Y/C |
| [05:14:07] | Lexridge: | 4 pin mini-din |
| [05:14:33] | gcb: | ah |
| [05:14:38] | gcb: | i'm not even there yet :) |
| [05:16:06] | Lexridge: | I just need to break down and purchase the Hauppage HDPVR. I use that Y/C to get my Dish Network into it, but only in SD. The HDPVR would be the savior lol |
| [05:18:21] | gcb: | i got the 2250 just to have everthing in one box... regret it now |
| [05:20:22] | Lexridge: | You will figure it out. the 2250 is a fine card. |
| [05:23:15] | gcb: | found some ubuntuforum post that configures it as a DVB card... that's the only one that does not work for me... i think before i had it was mpeg-2 or mjpeg |
| [05:24:04] | Lexridge: | It should configure as DVB for sure. I dont think MPEG2 is what you want. |
| [05:24:20] | Lexridge: | have you checked your dmesg lately? |
| [05:25:39] | gcb: | dmesg says: device video0 [mpeg].... vbi0 [vbi] |
| [05:25:55] | gcb: | ha, but alas, i do have the DVB devices |
| [05:26:08] | Lexridge: | wait a sec, let me look at mine. |
| [05:26:18] | gcb: | ok, let's try to use them even if the backend setup says it can't get any info on it |
| [05:26:35] | gcb: | and you're right, channel scan is at least getting something |
| [05:27:49] | Lexridge: | You should have something like this in your dmesg. I know, your driver is probably not the cx18, but should be similar. |
| [05:27:50] | Lexridge: | cx18–0: DVB Frontend registered |
| [05:27:50] | Lexridge: | [ 12.643268] cx18–0: Registered DVB adapter0 for TS (32 x 32.00 kB) |
| [05:28:56] | Lexridge: | did you remember to reinstall the firmware for your card? |
| [05:29:11] | gcb: | hum... ok, also have those devices being registered... but they didn't appear on my grep for saa |
| [05:29:22] | gcb: | yep, did that. i think it's working now |
| [05:29:52] | Lexridge: | you can always check your /dev directory for them, if in doubt. |
| [05:30:34] | Lexridge: | oh, working now. Cool! |
| [05:30:55] | gcb: | i think having the video0 mpeg device was confusing me |
| [05:31:00] | gcb: | i wasn't looking at other options |
| [05:31:17] | gcb: | thanks for waking me up |
| [05:31:43] | Lexridge: | sure, glad to have been some help |
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| [05:42:15] | Lexridge: | night all. Past my bedtime. |
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| [15:34:59] | sauli: | hello there |
| [15:37:26] | sauli: | so frustrated... I had working dual-tuner setup here for couple of weeks, but now I screwed something up with the Backend settings and I cannot Record for example Channel-1 and watch Channel-6 at the same time anymore... too much settings and so confused right now :( |
| [15:38:40] | sauli: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRXNt_s8PJg just today, earlier, I made that youtube clip that shows I can watch different channels with Nexus tablet and HTPC same time... not anymore, and I am so lost with the settings |
| [15:40:50] | sauli: | I am lost with input-connections, Video Sources etc... cannot remember my original settings which I had earlier today... in the Youtube clip description you can see details of the setup I am using here, could anyone give some advice, where to look.. |
| [15:42:26] | sauli: | I can see nicknames that are clearly from Finland too, kurre2 niska you perhaps could assist me in Finnish :) |
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| [15:59:05] | sauli: | so frustrating... I think that this is so very very very basic scenario and thing that I am trying to do. Using dual-tuner card, as it is supposed to work... too much config settings... |
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| [16:07:42] | sauli: | well. now I can use both tuners same time, but I have to press "M" key in frontend and select "adapter1" ... pfff |
| [16:08:00] | sauli: | before the system did this automatically.. |
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| [17:02:22] | sauli: | There is a Checkbox in backend settings: "open tuner card on demand" and I have checked it for both the tuners.. is that correct way to do? |
| [17:04:19] | sauli: | now when I start on my HTPC the Frontend, it starts with "adapter0" ... and if I start frontend in my Nexus7 tablet, it shows only those channels that adapter0 can show at the same time.. |
| [17:05:00] | sauli: | but when I press "M" key in HTPC frontend, and select source -> adapter1 , then I can access ALL the channels with my Nexus 7 |
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| [17:10:17] | sauli: | should I have more than one "video source" configured ? one for each tuner adapter0 and adapter1 ?? :o Now I have only one, named "terratec" and I have both input-connections --> "terratec" |
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| [17:18:05] | sauli: | my friend suggests me, that I should go to channel #mythtv but wiki pages says that it is developers only... |
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| [17:31:23] | wagnerrp: | which friend was that? |
| [17:32:44] | wagnerrp: | sauli: the "open tuner card on demand" option means mythtv will only lock digital tuners when it is actually using them |
| [17:32:52] | wagnerrp: | allowing them to remain freed up for other applications otherwise |
| [17:32:59] | wagnerrp: | you almost certain DO NOT want to enable that |
| [17:33:18] | sauli: | okay, I'll change the setting now, let's see what happens.. |
| [17:33:31] | wagnerrp: | as it's just going to reek havoc should something else have that tuner open when mythtv goes to use it |
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| [17:33:46] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv are you using? |
| [17:34:44] | wagnerrp: | you're attempting to run 'mythfrontend' on an ARM tablet? |
| [17:35:02] | wagnerrp: | that's almost certain not going to have enough power to perform video decoding |
| [17:35:18] | wagnerrp: | you might be able to manage standard definition content |
| [17:35:37] | sauli: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRXNt_s8PJg yes I did it this morning, made a clip from it too there |
| [17:35:55] | wagnerrp: | are you actually running mythfrontend on it? or are you running something 3rd party? |
| [17:36:02] | sauli: | 3rd party |
| [17:36:18] | wagnerrp: | ok. what version of mythtv are you using? |
| [17:36:27] | sauli: | 0.25 |
| [17:36:35] | wagnerrp: | upgrade to 0.26 |
| [17:36:50] | wagnerrp: | in 0.26, you can independently define the ordering that tuners will be used for recordings or livetv |
| [17:37:19] | wagnerrp: | so you can force livetv to start with the tuner least likely to already be in use |
| [17:37:47] | sauli: | I have Ubuntu-Server 12.04 , if I want to use 0.26 version, I should add some PPA: or something? I am former Gentoo user, Ubuntu is little new for me right now |
| [17:38:11] | wagnerrp: | use mythbuntu control center |
| [17:38:18] | wagnerrp: | it lets you configure which version you're going to install |
| [17:38:47] | sauli: | lets not horry now, everything worked fine when I made that youtube clip this morning, there is something wrong with some little setting.. |
| [17:39:29] | sauli: | I un-checked the "open tuner card on demand" for both adapters now, and started HTPC (hackintosh) playing one tv channel |
| [17:40:52] | sauli: | well.. again same thing.. on my Tablet (or any other Myth Frontend) all I can see is couple of channels, that runs on same demux (? or something) that the channel on the HTPC machine |
| [17:41:24] | wagnerrp: | in 0.25, there is an option somewhere to have livetv avoid conflicts with recordings |
| [17:41:38] | wagnerrp: | which means it will run the list of inputs in reverse |
| [17:42:02] | sauli: | now, in HTPC when I press "M" and select "switch input" it shows adapter0, adapter1, adapter1 (yes, twice) |
| [17:42:27] | sauli: | now if I select adapter1 , after that I can watch all the channels again with my Nexus7 |
| [17:42:31] | wagnerrp: | it should show it twice. those are virtual tuners. |
| [17:42:47] | wagnerrp: | it's how mythtv internally allows multiple simultaneous recordings from a single physical tuner |
| [17:43:01] | sauli: | yeah |
| [17:43:22] | wagnerrp: | if two users are hitting the same physical tuner, that physical tuner will only be able to access channels on the same mux |
| [17:43:45] | sauli: | I just cant figure out, which little setting I had this morning differently, so that I did not have to change manually the source from HTPC frontend |
| [17:44:11] | wagnerrp: | if some 3rd party application does not allow you to switch to another tuner when the first physical one is in use, that's something they need to fix |
| [17:44:23] | sauli: | everything is quite stable, so I just wouldnt just yet upgrade to 0.26 ... |
| [17:44:46] | sauli: | yeah but everything was working fine today earlier, I changed something and got lost :p |
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| [17:49:33] | sauli: | what are those "input-group" settings? and "input priority" ... if those are the problem here |
| [17:49:49] | sauli: | sooooo much different settings... :) |
| [17:54:16] | wagnerrp: | input groups were still there in 0.25 |
| [17:54:26] | wagnerrp: | they're for use when you have two mutually exclusive inputs |
| [17:54:36] | wagnerrp: | such as the separate analog and digital sides of a hybrid tuner |
| [17:54:49] | wagnerrp: | or a cable box configured to record using both firewire and analog capture |
| [17:55:20] | wagnerrp: | inputs that appear to be independent, but cannot be used at the same time |
| [17:56:15] | sauli: | it is always with like this in Linux and complicated (sopisthicated) softwares... so much options, so average user (not coder) can get quite confused |
| [17:56:30] | sauli: | it is a blessing and a curse :P always has been |
| [17:57:59] | sauli: | if only I could remember which setting I changed this morning, when everything was working fine.. I had this same problem going on weeks ago, I was forced to manually select "adapter1" from frontend, if I was recording with one mux, and wanted to watch another |
| [18:00:40] | sauli: | I shall be patient, I'll find the way :) |
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| [18:02:23] | sauli: | is there a way (0.25fixes) to set up so that Mythfrontend in my HTPC starts always with "adapter1" ? |
| [18:03:28] | sauli: | if should delete (again) all tuner cards from backend, and put the adapter1 first, and adapter0 second... |
| [18:04:24] | sauli: | wagnerrp: you are propably right about that, the 3rd party Android application tries to use adapter0 as default |
| [18:04:48] | sauli: | (sorry my typos/grammar, I am finnish) :P |
| [18:05:03] | wagnerrp: | is this application related to mythtv? or is it independently trying to access the tuner? |
| [18:06:27] | sauli: | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id . . . id&hl=fi it is this, quite simple program but works well for live-tv watching etc |
| [18:07:05] | sauli: | some little bugs, but it worked quite well before I made some mystery change to my backend settings |
| [18:09:04] | sauli: | it had a bug, that if I watched lets say Channel-1 from HTPC and tried to watch the same channel (live) with the Android app, it crashed always.. I could watch anything as long as I did not watch the same channel the HTPC (OSX FrontEnd) was playing |
| [18:09:39] | sauli: | thats why I started to fiddle with the settings in the backend *sigh* |
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| [19:11:44] | Tobbe5178: | how do you convince the icon downloader that the icon it downloaded is completely wrong? |
| [19:12:02] | Tobbe5178: | in my case i never get the choice of picking a new icon |
| [19:12:14] | Tobbe5178: | even if i clear the icon path in the channel editor and do a new scan |
| [19:12:24] | Tobbe5178: | it still picks the icon i already had that is wrong |
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| [21:16:13] | runelind: | if I am running into delayed write issues on my backend, where would it show up in my logs? |
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| [21:35:11] | johnsu01: | so, trying to infect my family with mythtv — they have an old mac mini that I'm going to try; what do people recommend for tv tuner for these? |
| [21:37:47] | tgm4883: | johnsu01, what country are you in? |
| [21:38:00] | johnsu01: | tgm4883: US |
| [21:38:45] | tgm4883: | johnsu01, IDK much about macs, but I'd imagine any of the non-pci ones would work (eg. hdpvr (USB), HDHomerun (ethernet)) |
| [21:39:14] | tgm4883: | depending on what you are recording from (cable/antenna, cablebox, cablecard) |
| [21:39:21] | johnsu01: | tgm4883: cool, I'll be converting it to gnu/linux first of course, and just recording from antenna |
| [21:39:42] | tgm4883: | so for just antenna, I'd probably recommend the HDHomerun |
| [21:39:45] | johnsu01: | was thinking usb, but my one experience with a usb tuner a long time ago sucked |
| [21:40:01] | tgm4883: | yea, HDPVR won't work for you (it records component) |
| [21:41:15] | tgm4883: | I don't remember if the HDHomerun Prime will do antenna. If it does that would give you the option for doing a cable card later. If not, I'd just get the HDHomerun |
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| [21:49:13] | johnsu01: | tgm4883: great, thanks |
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