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[02:21:12] Korny: Evening all
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[02:47:04] darkdrgn2k: hey
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[02:47:17] darkdrgn2k: any one know how libcec interfaces with myhth, like what can it do/how do you configure it
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[03:06:44] wagnerrp: darkdrgn2k: honestly, not much of anything
[03:06:59] wagnerrp: all we support at the moment are a pair of key bindings to turn the TV on or off
[03:07:33] darkdrgn2k: hah to bad i was hopeing it could process remote input from the tv :-P
[03:07:43] darkdrgn2k: oh well CEC is a disapointment cause no one wants to play by the rules :(
[03:09:29] wagnerrp: i don't want to say that can't be done
[03:09:34] clever: yeah, i'm constantly fighting my hdmi switch box
[03:09:40] wagnerrp: just that mythtv hasn't implemented much of the libcec capability
[03:09:54] darkdrgn2k: nop i get it :) no biggie just wondering
[03:10:16] Korny2: wagnerrp, tested my i3 setup with a killawatt 25 watts idle, 30–35 watts playing
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[03:10:32] darkdrgn2k: i can wrap most of the functionality in scripts that i need
[03:10:40] darkdrgn2k: sadly my tv wont support vol up or down :(
[03:10:47] Korny2: without gt520, with gt520 30 watts idle 35–45 watts playing (depending on if deinterlacing is needed)
[03:11:51] wagnerrp: CEC has been more of a hassle to me than anything else
[03:12:01] wagnerrp: my tv wants unilateral control of my amp
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[03:12:15] wagnerrp: it can't seem to understand the fact that i might actually want to use my amp even when it tv is off
[03:12:34] wagnerrp: when the TV turns on, it grabs the amp's input for ARC
[03:12:47] wagnerrp: when the TV turns off, it forcefully turns the amp off
[03:13:50] darkdrgn2k: i tried to upgrade the firmware for my samsung tv... grab the latest firmware from the web.. "currently running 10007 upgrade with 10006?"
[03:13:51] darkdrgn2k: lol
[03:13:59] clever: for me, if i turn the amp on (it has a dvd player in it), the hdmi box switches to that input, always
[03:14:06] clever: often, away from my video source
[03:14:12] clever: then the amp/dvd player changes to dvd mode
[03:15:50] Korny2: That sounds annoying
[03:16:18] clever: very
[03:16:55] clever: also, if i leave the tv on the PS3 input, and try to turn the tv on, it boots up the ps3
[03:16:59] clever: even if i wanted to use a diff input
[03:16:59] darkdrgn2k: i hate how no one follows the standard.. or thingks their way is the best
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[03:17:44] clever: darkdrgn2k: from what ive seen of cec, the switches are supposed to be an active party in the cec bus, and can be controlled by anything on the cec network
[03:17:55] clever: ive yet to find any switch that is visible on cec debugging tools
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[03:18:40] darkdrgn2k: i just wish that the expres vu recievers would support cec :(
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[03:18:49] darkdrgn2k: would be so uslfull not havint to blast everyhing
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[03:19:08] clever: my cable box has DVI out, so no cec pin
[03:19:39] darkdrgn2k: probably not active if it did..
[03:20:13] darkdrgn2k: i hate the sub standard tech in these receivers..
[03:21:23] darkdrgn2k: hey speaking of blasters. any one ever getsee an mceusb blaster not blas the right code.. or at least the blasted blasts somethign but it doesnt work as it should
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[04:26:15] Korny2: Quiet in here tonight, guess that could be a good thing
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[05:19:45] somethinginteres: Recently updated Xorg drivers on Debian. Running 'testing'. Now X crashes when trying to play back a recording.
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[05:38:22] wagnerrp: people who insist on using wireless bother me
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[06:00:24] Korny2: wagnerrp, only use for wireless is smart phones, tablets and laptops
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[06:04:44] wagnerrp: right, devices that shouldn't get hard wired for mobility reasons
[06:09:17] Korny2: You see my wattage post about my new front end?
[06:09:33] wagnerrp: yeah, seems consistent with mine
[06:10:02] Korny2: I had to put in my nvidia card for 2 reasons, I couldn't get deinterlacing to looka s nice as my vdpau and I couldn't get DTS HD MA through my intel HDMI
[06:11:00] wagnerrp: can't use lpcm?
[06:11:26] Korny2: mmm I didn't try that
[06:11:58] Korny2: I know when I used intel hdmi port and seleted all the modes my reciever could do it did NOT like dts-ma
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[06:12:47] Korny2: For whatever reason the deinterlacing is sharper on my nvidia as well
[06:13:03] wagnerrp: using opengl and software deint? or vdpau deint?
[06:13:05] Korny2: I didn't toy around with myth's settings to much for software deinterlacing
[06:13:08] Korny2: vdpau
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[07:09:39] snaker_: brb
[07:10:01] snaker_: nevermind
[07:12:38] wagnerrp: generally you have to be in active discussion to tell people you're going to be right back
[07:18:50] snaker_: checking to see if had been klined..............
[07:18:54] snaker_: sorry
[07:19:31] snaker_: hey are you using bluray on your frontend by chance
[07:19:55] wagnerrp: indirectly, yes
[07:20:33] snaker_: bdrom or just mkv ....avis or mp4s
[07:21:05] snaker_: just trying to automount my cdrom when I insert a disk
[07:21:27] snaker_: worked great on mythbuntu not so great on centos 6.3
[07:22:03] wagnerrp: m2ts
[07:22:16] snaker_: ok
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[09:43:55] snaker_: jya_: dude are you here
[09:44:05] jya_: i am
[09:44:51] snaker_: quick question trying to mount bdrom when I insert it automatically worked great in mythbuntu
[09:45:30] snaker_: switch to centos 6.3 can't get thunar to mount udf when bluray inserted any ideas
[09:45:52] snaker_: ok that was goofy
[09:46:20] snaker_: trying to mount udf blurays automatically when I insert a disk in the drive
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[10:00:35] snaker_: ok thanks neway :(
[10:02:01] zoran119: if i switch to eit as the guide source in the video sources, is there anything else i need to do to get the guide into the database?
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[13:51:02] beadle_: kernel 3.8 removes the driver hotplug initializations (__devexit and such). I remove those attributes and the Ceton InfiniTV PCI code will compile. It doesn't seem to work. Mythbackend no longer finds the devices. The CTN0 network does seem to be ok. Is this MythTV breakage. Any hints guidance comments (heck even flames) are much appreciated.
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[14:09:17] beadle_: can anybody help with __devexit
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[14:14:30] sid3windr: beadle_: perhaps check #linuxtv too?
[14:14:41] sid3windr: or is it not a dvb device, I don't kow :)
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[14:15:44] beadle_: it's a PCI cable-card device.
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[15:36:58] neon__: I am looking for a recommendation for a USB capture card
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[15:47:41] StevenR: neon__: I use a couple of the hauppage usb stick ones for UK DVB
[15:47:50] StevenR: they work pretty well
[15:49:54] neon__: Thanks. I have only cable TV with HDMI, or RCA, or composite.
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[15:53:21] StevenR: ahh... the ones I use aren't going to work for you then
[16:03:59] quantum: I'm editing channels in the backend, and find a number missing. Like Seattle 2_1 OTA. And Dish 105 (USA), 108 (Lifetime), 109 (Life MV), and so on.
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[16:09:46] wagnerrp: neon__: this is in the US?
[16:09:57] wagnerrp: what cable provider?
[16:10:43] neon__: no, I am abroad
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[16:13:09] wagnerrp: israel... you might be able to use DVB-C (digital cable), or you might be able to use old PAL (analog cable)
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[16:13:33] wagnerrp: but based off the information you've given, the only option would be analog capture
[16:13:50] wagnerrp: either standard definition capture with an old PVR-150 or similar
[16:14:14] wagnerrp: or HD capture using an HDFury to convert from HDMI to component, and then an HDPVR to capture the component video
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[16:19:11] neon__: I need a USB thing, because it is for a laptop.
[16:19:31] wagnerrp: that would be a PVR-USB2, HVR-1900, or HDPVR
[16:19:41] wagnerrp: you want to use something with a hardware encoder
[16:19:56] neon__: does these ones have it?
[16:19:59] wagnerrp: you don't want to use a "framegrabber" and leave compression up to mythtv
[16:20:06] wagnerrp: yes, those three are hardware encoders
[16:20:34] wagnerrp: you should also find out if a DVB-C card connected directly to the cable line is an option
[16:20:42] wagnerrp: as that is much preferred over analog capture
[16:22:03] neon__: how could it be an option? I think you need the cable box in order to see cables
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[18:17:46] skd5aner: wagnerrp: you around?
[18:18:06] wagnerrp: aye
[18:18:32] skd5aner: you're a big ZFS guy right?
[18:18:59] wagnerrp: i'm comfortable with it, but i wouldn't consider myself a guru
[18:19:17] skd5aner: you run a NAS at home
[18:19:18] skd5aner: ?
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[18:19:35] wagnerrp: i run a freebsd box as a file server, not a dedicated nas
[18:19:57] skd5aner: Yea, I'm debating setting one up – just started doing a little research
[18:20:17] wagnerrp: if you just want a nas, consider nas4free
[18:20:23] skd5aner: I see some of the FOSS ptions are based on FreeBSD and support ZFS and others are linux based and don't
[18:20:26] wagnerrp: if you want a proper server, do a full freebsd install
[18:20:50] wagnerrp: (or nas4free with your server applications installed in jails)
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[18:22:34] skd5aner: Yea, thinking to go more tha "appliance" route – I've got a few other servers for general use – would be nice to have something just for serving up storage without the overhead
[18:23:11] wagnerrp: well you want a fairly beefy machine (or at least one with gobs of memory) for ZFS
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[18:23:30] wagnerrp: so anything you have to run ZFS is likely going to be able to handle other tasks as well
[18:24:14] wagnerrp: mine is a lot more happy with 16GB than it was 4GB, and 2GB was just painful
[18:24:21] skd5aner: Yea, I saw that memory is really important for proper ZFS performance
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[18:32:53] EvilGuru: I believe the high memory requirements are a quirk of the FreeBSD implementation
[18:33:11] EvilGuru: I swear we've had Solaris boxes w/ZFS work comfortably on a lot less memory
[18:33:25] wagnerrp: no, ZFS in general wants large amounts of memory
[18:33:52] wagnerrp: for dedup, they were recommending several GB of memory per TB of stored space
[18:33:59] wagnerrp: normal use is significantly lower, but still significant
[18:34:11] EvilGuru: We never run with dedup
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[18:54:57] ankoku: on the wiki, it states that mythtranscode's --honorcutlist only works with the -c -s switches, and not with the -i switch
[18:55:01] ankoku: is this still true?
[18:57:57] wagnerrp: probably
[18:58:26] wagnerrp: meaning you have to use it against a recording, not a file in the video library
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[19:08:09] ankoku: okay, thanks
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[21:25:19] runelind: I'm having problems with TV recordings. It would appear that when I start watching a recording before it finishes, it stops recording at that point.
[21:26:09] runelind: using MythTV 0.26 on the backend
[21:26:13] runelind: on FreeBSD
[21:28:19] runelind: is there a logfile I should be checking out?
[21:31:23] runelind: there is no mythbackend logfile for today.
[21:35:44] runelind: the mythfrontend is mythbuntu, but I wouldn't think that's an issue.
[21:35:52] EvilGuru: Hmm, since upgrading to KDE 4.10 DPMS keeps coming on when mythtv is playing back
[21:36:04] runelind: the file size has just stopped growing.
[21:39:01] EvilGuru: I take it the "Screen locker settings" in KDE are now different from DPMS and so not affected by mythtv
[21:40:32] EvilGuru: Sigh http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-hardware-devel&am . . . 6759&w=2
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[23:28:45] wagnerrp: runelind: check your log file, see if mythtv is complaining about delayed writes and terminating the recording
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