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| [00:04:13] | temp_: | I'm not getting eit data and I get this error in verbose mode PESPacket: Failed CRC check 0x1b235700 != 0xe8f46fd4 for StreamID = 0x70, how do I fix it – running 0.24 |
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| [00:28:09] | darkdrgn2k: | hey guys |
| [00:28:25] | darkdrgn2k: | just upgraded from .25 to .26 but i get VideoOutput: Not compiled with any useable video output method. |
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| [00:31:27] | darkdrgn2k: | just upgraded from .25 to .26 but i get VideoOutput: Not compiled with any useable video output method. |
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| [01:17:28] | mcmoyer: | Is there a script floating about that will thumbnail home video that takes into consideration storage groups |
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| [01:52:39] | quinten: | i've been trying to figure out a problem with mythweb. a clean install of the GIT version on archlinux with php 5.4–12 results in this broken html for any page: http://pastebin.com/1xpDgaus |
| [01:53:00] | quinten: | i upgraded to GIT to see if it was related to http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10504 |
| [01:53:10] | quinten: | same bug was happening with .26.0 |
| [01:53:43] | [R]: | ah good ol broken arch |
| [01:53:45] | quinten: | what it shows as is two broken image links pointing to the template variable "root_url" |
| [01:54:20] | quinten: | then i also see lots of refernces to skin_url and skin_urlimg in apache access log |
| [01:55:18] | quinten: | i have run into lots of people experiencing similar issues when I googled it, but no suggestions that worked for me. I'm not sure if it's a php configuration issue, apache, or mythweb |
| [01:55:41] | quinten: | [R], why do you say that? |
| [01:55:50] | [R]: | cuz anyoen anyone is using arch, it always seems like nothing works |
| [01:56:13] | quinten: | I'd be happy to switch to Debian, which is my preferred distro, but I don't think it runs on my system easily (Seagate GoFlex, arm based) |
| [01:57:17] | [R]: | yah for myth on woefully underpowered crap |
| [01:58:07] | quinten: | [R], well, i don't think it's a CPU performance or memory issue in this case. |
| [01:59:00] | quinten: | although after spending several days trying to figure this out on a linux distro that's not my first choice, i have been tempted to spend a lot of money on something else I know I can set up faster! |
| [01:59:54] | quinten: | I just want something quiet that I can leave in my living room that is low-power. anything with a fan is too noisy for me. I ran it on an x86 device for several years |
| [02:00:36] | [R]: | mythweb should be running in a closet somewhere |
| [02:03:18] | quinten: | nice if you have a big place, I live in a 2-bedroom condo :) but i really don't think the problem is the power of the device, as folks have had similar issues with obscure fixes on various systems |
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| [02:04:12] | [R]: | i have a 2 bedroom condo too |
| [02:04:16] | [R]: | and i keep my backend in a closet |
| [02:06:27] | quinten: | do you have any suggestions for where to look to troubleshoot this issue? |
| [02:06:40] | quinten: | I can provide logs, config files etc |
| [02:13:38] | quinten: | or if you can think of a better forum for me to try |
| [02:13:50] | quinten: | i got zero response asking on the mailing list |
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| [02:20:41] | [R]: | because arch sucks and underpowered crap sucks |
| [02:21:18] | wagnerrp: | wait, you're trying to run mythtv on a cheap NAS? |
| [02:24:25] | quinten: | wagnerrp, not sure if the pejorative is warranted :) |
| [02:24:51] | quinten: | it's much more powerful than the first machines running mythtv |
| [02:25:32] | quinten: | i'm not trying to run a frontend on it, just backend. and actually it seems to work fine, the problem is with mythweb |
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| [02:28:10] | wagnerrp: | nah, i'm going to say the recommended mythtv machine even 10 years ago when the project started was more capable than a 1.2GHz ARMv5 with 128MB of memory |
| [02:28:46] | wagnerrp: | that's roughly equivalent to a mid-range Pentium II |
| [02:29:03] | wagnerrp: | with as much memory as was typical in a PII desktop in the late 90s |
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| [02:32:38] | quinten: | wagnerrp, well, i may end up disappointed with performance, but i don't know if it's relevant to the issue i'm experiencing. do you think it is? |
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| [02:33:22] | wagnerrp: | mythweb itself struggles to run on that limited amount of memory |
| [02:33:26] | [R]: | well that leads back to you using a garbage dist |
| [02:33:32] | quinten: | i set up swap |
| [02:33:34] | wagnerrp: | nevermind mythtv |
| [02:33:52] | wagnerrp: | if you are using swap, you've already lost the war |
| [02:33:59] | wagnerrp: | swap is something to be used as a last resort |
| [02:34:11] | quinten: | and before purchasing i had someone on the mythtv mailing list say that they had a successful installation on this exact device |
| [02:34:20] | wagnerrp: | mark something, right? |
| [02:34:21] | Korny: | Evening |
| [02:34:30] | wagnerrp: | he's a loon |
| [02:34:45] | Korny: | what device? sorry I just logged in |
| [02:34:57] | wagnerrp: | and this is exactly why we keep trying to shut him up every time he starts talking about his ARM backends |
| [02:34:59] | quinten: | seagate goflex |
| [02:35:07] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:35:19] | wagnerrp: | so he doesn't entice other unsuspecting users into buying such things, and ending up in your situation |
| [02:35:20] | Korny: | Ram is cheap and as wagnerrp and I have been talking about newer intel chips/mobos are quite energy efficent |
| [02:35:41] | quinten: | power isn't a big deal for me, compactness and quiet are |
| [02:36:01] | Korny: | mini itx with i3? |
| [02:36:25] | Korny: | or pentium |
| [02:36:40] | quinten: | well i have it already, and I do understand that it may be disappointing in performacne, but i think i should be able to get past my current blocking point |
| [02:36:52] | quinten: | since swap may be slow, but to the OS it's not different from memory |
| [02:36:56] | wagnerrp: | no, cease all efforts |
| [02:36:58] | quinten: | and slow cpu = slow |
| [02:37:03] | quinten: | not broken! |
| [02:37:05] | wagnerrp: | you do NOT want to try doing ANYTHING with mythtv on 128MB of memory |
| [02:37:11] | wagnerrp: | regardless of this problem |
| [02:37:44] | wagnerrp: | you don't seem to grasp just how much slower swap is |
| [02:37:55] | wagnerrp: | we're talking several orders of magnitude here |
| [02:38:03] | Korny: | 1000's |
| [02:38:47] | wagnerrp: | access latencies of RAM is measured in tens of nanoseconds |
| [02:38:55] | wagnerrp: | access latencies of swap is measured in tens of milliseconds |
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| [02:40:38] | wagnerrp: | even the guy on the list who suggested you do this is using one of those "plug" computers, which typically come with 512MB-1GB of memory |
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| [02:46:26] | quinten: | i understand you are trying to save me some pain, but I'm not convinced switching to new hardware will solve the issue. any suggestions on troubleshooting? |
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| [02:48:10] | quinten: | if i tell my wife i want to buy something new, she will revolt and go out and buy a tivo |
| [02:48:44] | quinten: | i wonder how powerful the hardware in the tivo is, actually :) |
| [02:48:44] | Korny: | Then don't tell her |
| [02:48:57] | ** Korny has multiple "toy" cards :) ** | |
| [02:49:05] | Korny: | Its the key to a healthy relationship |
| [02:51:56] | wagnerrp: | quinten: the hardware in a tivo really isn't much more powerful than that in your goflex |
| [02:52:21] | wagnerrp: | the difference being that the tivo software is designed explicitly for that specific hardware, and its limitations |
| [02:53:11] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has always been designed for desktop hardware, and desktop hardware that for the life of the project has been more powerful, with more available resources than that goflex |
| [02:54:07] | Korny: | do you have a link to what you actually bought? |
| [02:54:09] | quinten: | i don't know why i got dragged into this discussion. i think the only relevant criticism might be the OS i'm running |
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| [02:54:43] | quinten: | Korny, http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-net |
| [02:54:48] | wagnerrp: | quinten: i think the more important issue is the OS you are running, designed for the low memory system you are running, means you're trying to use something other than apache |
| [02:55:00] | quinten: | no, i'm using apache |
| [02:55:18] | wagnerrp: | really? apache alone would put that thing into swap |
| [02:55:38] | wagnerrp: | usually they run something like lighttpd on those embedded systems |
| [02:55:41] | quinten: | in 2002–2004 i ran a webserver with 128 mb of ram |
| [02:55:46] | Korny: | how much did you pay for it? |
| [02:55:58] | Korny: | psstt quinten its 2013... |
| [02:56:13] | Korny: | Cell phones have bigger proccessors and more ram then your computer |
| [02:56:22] | quinten: | Korny, it's a slight premium over the hard disk itself |
| [02:56:26] | quinten: | for the NAS features |
| [02:56:33] | wagnerrp: | a cell phone would actually make a halfway respectable backend |
| [02:56:51] | wagnerrp: | a cortex-a9 and a gig of memory, it's really not that bad of a machine |
| [02:56:51] | Korny: | You see the new samsung s4's with 8 cores lol |
| [02:56:57] | quinten: | so I'm running php 5.4–12, apache 2 and up to date mythtv-fixes |
| [02:57:08] | wagnerrp: | try running PHP5.3 |
| [02:58:09] | wagnerrp: | the difference is that while they're practically giving away ARMv5s, an ARMv7 dev kit usually runs $150-$200 |
| [02:58:37] | wagnerrp: | at which point you may as well stick with a traditional mini-itx system |
| [02:59:01] | quinten: | are any of the mini-itx systems fanless? with reasonable performance? |
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| [02:59:45] | wagnerrp: | my latest frontend could be run with a very modest fan, if not completely fanless |
| [02:59:55] | wagnerrp: | and that's with a 3.3GHz ivy bridge CPU |
| [03:00:39] | wagnerrp: | don't mistake fanless for silent |
| [03:00:55] | wagnerrp: | even if your CPU doesn't, your hard drives are still going to make a lot of noise and heat while in use |
| [03:01:26] | wagnerrp: | and don't forget that your tv is also going to be making a lot of noise while in use, masking the noise of any quiet PC sitting next to it |
| [03:01:46] | quinten: | well, i ran an athlon xp system for several years, and for me it's too noisy |
| [03:02:01] | wagnerrp: | it's also at minimum 8 years old |
| [03:02:07] | quinten: | you are right the HD is part of the noise |
| [03:02:52] | Korny: | also high quality fans with fan controllers maeka big difference when it comes to noise |
| [03:02:56] | quinten: | sorry, athlon x2 |
| [03:03:08] | wagnerrp: | you don't need fan controllers |
| [03:03:08] | quinten: | only 5 years old :) |
| [03:03:17] | wagnerrp: | all motherboards come with PWM controllers built in |
| [03:03:30] | wagnerrp: | these days anyway |
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| [03:05:25] | quinten: | so there's not really a practical, fanless backend then, you're saying. at least nothing anyone on here right now is running |
| [03:05:51] | wagnerrp: | i'm saying there's no need for a fanless backend |
| [03:06:01] | wagnerrp: | you just want a quiet backend |
| [03:06:07] | wagnerrp: | and a quiet backend is not too tough to pull off |
| [03:06:54] | wagnerrp: | however considering you were using a headless machine like a NAS in the first place |
| [03:07:04] | wagnerrp: | this clearly isn't going to be your playback device |
| [03:07:11] | quinten: | right |
| [03:07:12] | wagnerrp: | so why does it need to be quiet? |
| [03:07:40] | wagnerrp: | just put it in a closet, or a basement, or somewhere else where it can be however loud it wants to be, and you wont hear it |
| [03:07:41] | quinten: | limited space |
| [03:09:43] | wagnerrp: | well anyway, i have a diskless frontend with a mini-itx board, pentium G2120, and a PSU with efficiency so poor that probably uses close to as much power as the system it supplying power to |
| [03:09:56] | wagnerrp: | and i simply can't get it to draw more than 45W under full load |
| [03:10:10] | wagnerrp: | figure you'll tack on somewhere around 10W per hard drive |
| [03:11:07] | wagnerrp: | make that to be around 25W for the CPU and board at full load, and the CPU is rated for 55W TDP |
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| [03:12:32] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't take much to cool 25W |
| [03:12:39] | Korny: | passive heatsink would work |
| [03:13:09] | quinten: | well my x2 system is still running: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . E16819103272 |
| [03:13:14] | wagnerrp: | a ran running ~1K RPM would work a whole lot better, and still be for all intents and purposes, silent |
| [03:13:18] | quinten: | it's pretty noisy though |
| [03:16:14] | quinten: | would a modern CPU be possible to get a lot quieter? |
| [03:17:09] | wagnerrp: | that system above, sitting in a TV cabinet across the room, is inaudible |
| [03:18:54] | wagnerrp: | that's not to say it's silent up close |
| [03:19:11] | wagnerrp: | but people aren't going to be bending down and sticking their head in the cabinet to hear it either |
| [03:19:34] | Korny: | modern intel cpu's are much more efficent heck even some of the newer amd's aren't bad |
| [03:20:21] | wagnerrp: | true, but for a dedicated backend, AMD chips have a whole lot of extra GPU power that isn't going to get used |
| [03:20:38] | wagnerrp: | i honestly don't know how good their APUs are at shutting things down when not in use |
| [03:21:00] | quinten: | well, if i bought something new i would probably want a combined fe/be |
| [03:21:12] | quinten: | hdhomerun, and i don't need commflagging |
| [03:21:22] | wagnerrp: | for a FE, you still don't want AMD graphics |
| [03:21:29] | wagnerrp: | nvidia is preferred, intel is adequate |
| [03:21:30] | quinten: | ok |
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| [03:21:52] | wagnerrp: | not that there is anything wrong with their graphics hardware, but their linux drivers leave something to be desired |
| [03:21:55] | quinten: | i bought the last mobo that had nvidia graphics onboard with am2 |
| [03:22:03] | quinten: | that was sad when it went away |
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| [03:26:24] | quinten: | well, as far as investing in making my current fe/be quieter vs buying new hardware, which is more realistic? |
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| [03:26:55] | quinten: | according to the specs the cpu draws 89w |
| [03:27:12] | quinten: | and in the summer definitely the fan has to work hard |
| [03:27:51] | Korny: | its really hard to justifiy buying new hardware for energy efficency |
| [03:28:09] | wagnerrp: | depends on how old the hardware |
| [03:29:14] | wagnerrp: | there's also the fact that if your CPU is significantly faster, it will finish significantly earlier and go back to idle |
| [03:31:32] | quinten: | 5 years old, as i said power draw is only a concern as it effects heat and therefore noise |
| [03:31:50] | quinten: | i think it's the stock fan on the CPU, i did replace case fan with a quieter one. |
| [03:31:59] | wagnerrp: | but power draw only creates noise when you're trying to make something small |
| [03:32:00] | quinten: | not a lot of room in the case though |
| [03:32:09] | wagnerrp: | given enough size, anything can be fanless, or at least quiet |
| [03:32:48] | quinten: | i have a smallish case, but not as small as a mini-itx case |
| [03:33:11] | wagnerrp: | i had an older dual-core opteron that was basically silent, since i had several of 120mm case fans on low, and a big 120x38mm panaflo on the CPU |
| [03:33:49] | wagnerrp: | along with one of the original high efficiency PSUs |
| [03:34:51] | wagnerrp: | wonderful CPU fan, still running strong on new hardware in my basement after 7 years of non-stop use, although it has a taste for blood |
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| [03:57:04] | jvcleave: | hello – I have a tuner that apparently needs some time to start. when I reboot the machine only one shows up until I run sudo service mythtv-backend restart. using MythTV Version : v0.25.3-33-g1d4d50b |
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| [03:58:03] | [R]: | i think there was aw iki page |
| [03:58:06] | [R]: | about delayign the backend startup |
| [03:59:51] | jvcleave: | I would be fine with something that just restarted it once per reboot as well |
| [04:00:27] | jvcleave: | like sleep 300, restart mythtv-backend |
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| [04:01:33] | jvcleave: | i am just not sure where to put it – unfamilar with startup commands |
| [04:01:53] | jvcleave: | or upstart commands it looks like |
| [04:02:26] | [R]: | [08:58:03] [R] i think there was aw iki page |
| [04:03:03] | Korny: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1461705 |
| [04:03:10] | Korny: | not sure if you use ubuntu though |
| [04:03:41] | jvcleave: | yeah – its mythubuntu |
| [04:07:21] | jvcleave: | thanks Korny: trying that now |
| [04:11:51] | tonsofpcs: | where can I look for logs of attempts at updating listings? For some reason, it hasn't been autorunning mythfilldatabase (or it has and it's been failing) |
| [04:12:30] | [R]: | tonsofpcs: does itw ork if you manually run it? |
| [04:12:49] | tonsofpcs: | [R]: yes. |
| [04:13:02] | tonsofpcs: | and it updates the next-run date to sometime the next day as well. |
| [04:13:18] | [R]: | theres a checkbox in mythtv-setup for it |
| [04:13:19] | tonsofpcs: | so I just ran it 2 minutes ago, until that point it lst grabbed on the 17th and showed next-run date as Feb 18. |
| [04:13:40] | tonsofpcs: | (and the 17th was a manual grab) |
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| [04:20:19] | notjimcarrey: | trying to setup my hauppauge hvr-1950 with mythtv but every channel is "Locked" when I try to scan |
| [04:20:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, you are locking onto the signal |
| [04:20:56] | wagnerrp: | being locked is a good thing |
| [04:21:29] | notjimcarrey: | but when it finishes, it say sno channels found |
| [04:21:47] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to scan off an antenna? or cable? |
| [04:21:51] | notjimcarrey: | cable |
| [04:22:03] | wagnerrp: | what provider? |
| [04:22:08] | notjimcarrey: | AFN |
| [04:22:30] | wagnerrp: | oh, no idea what their typical behavior is |
| [04:22:43] | notjimcarrey: | it's regular cable (i'm in afghanistan) |
| [04:22:50] | wagnerrp: | do you know off hand if it is analog or digital? |
| [04:22:55] | notjimcarrey: | analog only |
| [04:22:59] | wagnerrp: | right... armed forces network |
| [04:23:19] | wagnerrp: | are you aware that the -1950 behaves as two independent tuners in mythtv? |
| [04:23:25] | notjimcarrey: | just saw this in syslog though |
| [04:23:28] | notjimcarrey: | Channel(/dev/video1)::Tune(): Error -1 while setting frequency (v2): Numerical result out of range |
| [04:23:38] | notjimcarrey: | actually, no, didn't know that |
| [04:23:48] | wagnerrp: | there's the digital capability in /dev/dvb/adapter<n>, and the analog capability in /dev/video<n> |
| [04:23:57] | wagnerrp: | you will want to set up the analog side as an MPEG encoder |
| [04:24:06] | notjimcarrey: | er, um, ok? |
| [04:24:07] | notjimcarrey: | lol |
| [04:24:29] | wagnerrp: | and then scan for analog, rather than digital |
| [04:24:43] | wagnerrp: | you may need to remove the existing digital definition so mythtv does not try to open it |
| [04:24:51] | notjimcarrey: | is there a wiki somewhere on how to do that? |
| [04:25:03] | wagnerrp: | by default, mythtv will open and lock any tuners to prevent other applications from accessing it |
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| [04:25:18] | wagnerrp: | but in doing so, it also locks out access to the conflicting analog capability of that device |
| [04:25:35] | wagnerrp: | just in the capture card definitions in mythtv-setup, select the digital card, and hit 'd' |
| [04:26:05] | wagnerrp: | if you were actually going to be using the digital side, you would need to set up a shared "input group", so mythtv knew both of those inputs were mutually exclusive |
| [04:26:23] | wagnerrp: | just deleting it so mythtv doesn't know about it is easier |
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| [04:28:44] | notjimcarrey: | when i add the device, would i set it as "MPEG-2 encoder card"? |
| [04:29:21] | wagnerrp: | correct. select that type from the spinbox at the top, and mythtv should detect that input below |
| [04:30:10] | notjimcarrey: | what about VBI device? there aren't any in /dev |
| [04:30:39] | wagnerrp: | don't worry about it, VBI is stuff like closed caption data |
| [04:31:08] | notjimcarrey: | have /dev/video1 and demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 in /dev/dvb/apadter0 |
| [04:31:09] | notjimcarrey: | ah |
| [04:33:25] | notjimcarrey: | are signal strength and scan suppose to stay at 0% the whole time? |
| [04:34:14] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i've never actually scanned for analog channels |
| [04:34:25] | notjimcarrey: | agh, still failed to find any channels |
| [04:34:27] | wagnerrp: | it has been been broken in the past, but it should be functional currently |
| [04:34:47] | wagnerrp: | typically over here, you just pull a lineup from a Schedules Direct account |
| [04:35:21] | notjimcarrey: | never seen one for AFN |
| [04:35:22] | wagnerrp: | last i heard Tribune provided guide data for AFN as well |
| [04:35:27] | notjimcarrey: | lol |
| [04:35:41] | wagnerrp: | SD just pulls data from Tribune |
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| [05:04:26] | notjimcarrey: | i hate it when devices that are suppose to "just work", don't |
| [05:04:28] | notjimcarrey: | lol |
| [05:07:05] | tonsofpcs: | wait, a video capture card tied into a complex linux control system that talks to about 8 other sysstems and requires manual configuration is supposed to 'just work' ????? |
| [05:08:55] | notjimcarrey: | read several people that did |
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| [05:10:44] | mcmoyer: | well, I cobbled together a script to thumbnail home videos in different storage groups…I hate perl though so I did it in ruby ;) |
| [05:10:47] | mcmoyer: | https://gist.github.com/mcmoyer/5027882 |
| [05:14:08] | wagnerrp: | interesting database access mechanism there |
| [05:14:51] | mcmoyer: | first time I've used it. Pretty simple |
| [05:16:11] | notjimcarrey: | well, if i open /dev/video1 in vlc, i at least get static, just no video |
| [05:16:12] | notjimcarrey: | lol |
| [05:16:30] | mcmoyer: | normally, I'm using the ActiveRecord ORM in ruby…this one is much more lightweight |
| [05:16:44] | wagnerrp: | right. the -1950 is an MPEG encoder, so the output of that device node is a fully usable MPEG file |
| [05:17:00] | wagnerrp: | you can even record by doing "cat /dev/video1 > some_file.mpg" |
| [05:17:15] | notjimcarrey: | just no actual channels |
| [05:17:16] | notjimcarrey: | :/ |
| [05:17:25] | wagnerrp: | well for that, you have to tune it first |
| [05:17:55] | notjimcarrey: | that's where i keep running into problems |
| [05:21:48] | wagnerrp: | the -1950 has two RF inputs. are you plugged into the correct one? |
| [05:21:59] | notjimcarrey: | there's only one jack |
| [05:22:07] | notjimcarrey: | well, one for tv |
| [05:22:28] | wagnerrp: | right, the other for FM |
| [05:22:40] | notjimcarrey: | and yes, cable is plugged into tv jack |
| [05:23:04] | wagnerrp: | images online actually have a discrepancy over which one is which |
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| [05:37:29] | notjimcarrey: | tried both inputs, on cable and broadcast, and still no channels found |
| [05:41:21] | Korny: | hey wagnerrp does mythtv video scan video files any other time then when you press scan for changes? |
| [05:41:49] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [05:41:49] | Korny: | I'm just curious because I'm going to do some disk spin down on my unraid box |
| [05:42:02] | Korny: | so the drives should spin down and sit there until someone tries to play a movie |
| [05:42:09] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [05:42:20] | Korny: | Is mythtv pretty tolerant of spinning down recording drives as well? |
| [05:42:25] | Korny: | or will it error out? |
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| [05:43:39] | wagnerrp: | you've got 128MB of buffer space to get the drives spun up before it errors out |
| [05:44:03] | wagnerrp: | on an HD digital recording, that gives you at least a minute |
| [05:45:14] | Korny: | Is that per recording? |
| [05:46:09] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:46:40] | Korny: | Good to know |
| [05:47:57] | Korny: | Interesting, looks like unraid is going to be lookign at butterfs. Just reading about it |
| [05:48:33] | Korny: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs |
| [05:48:53] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [05:49:03] | wagnerrp: | looking at it? |
| [05:49:16] | Korny: | Considering it for future releases |
| [05:50:24] | wagnerrp: | i was not aware unraid was tied to any specific filesystem |
| [05:52:13] | Korny: | It uses reiserfs (can't spell it) right now |
| [05:54:28] | notjimcarrey: | annoying when nearly every referance i find is for kernel 2.6 |
| [05:55:23] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to...? |
| [05:56:53] | notjimcarrey: | well, i keep reading posts about people getting the 1950 to work, in 2.6, but i have yet to get it to find any channels |
| [05:57:13] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to use 2.4 or something? |
| [05:57:28] | notjimcarrey: | 3.x |
| [05:57:36] | wagnerrp: | 3.x and 2.6 are the same thing |
| [05:57:44] | wagnerrp: | there was no real architectural change |
| [05:57:46] | notjimcarrey: | tell that to my tuner |
| [05:57:46] | notjimcarrey: | lol |
| [05:57:57] | wagnerrp: | linus just decided it was long enough between major revisions |
| [05:58:39] | wagnerrp: | some distros even started calling it 2.6.40, as their packaging systems wouldn't allow a major version change in a single release |
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| [06:29:31] | notjimcarrey: | well, tv-viewer was able to actually find some channels, but the audio's squelchy |
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| [16:11:27] | quantum: | Has anyone found a decent sysinit (rc) script to start/stop the myth backend? The normal one can never stop it, and leaves the log server, lcd server and other cruft around when stopped. |
| [16:11:52] | quantum: | (at least on 0.27 with Debian) |
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| [17:04:35] | quantum: | Nuttin? |
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| [17:18:11] | jheizer: | Question for the power schedulers, is there a way to have shows with different titles end up under the same title in the recordings acreen? |
| [17:18:40] | tgm4883: | jheizer, I don't believe so |
| [17:18:45] | jheizer: | Ex: Set up a general movie power rule but it is quickly making my titles list huge. Not going to keep them around so don;t care about moving to videos. |
| [17:18:48] | tgm4883: | jheizer, that isn't a scheduling thing, that is a title thing |
| [17:18:58] | jheizer: | K, wasn;t sure if there was a trick with the recording profiles or something now |
| [17:20:41] | jheizer: | Yeah yeah not a scheduling thing per se, more people that use power scheduling. |
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| [18:41:17] | GreyFoxx: | CAll me :) 1182 |
| [18:41:19] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [18:41:39] | ghoti: | "for a good time"? :-) |
| [18:41:41] | GreyFoxx: | oh no, my internal extension is out :) |
| [18:41:43] | GreyFoxx: | always :) |
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