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| [00:00:21] | monkeypet69: | started with slackware on floppies! |
| [00:01:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | Heh, I once installed debian on my Amiga 1200 using floppies... I think I used it like 4 times... d'oh! |
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| [00:02:09] | monkeypet69: | kids these days are spoiled with their wireless and tablets. |
| [00:02:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yep. And Cell Phones. We didn't have cell phones when we were in school, we had to find a Pay Phone!!! |
| [00:03:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | The computer I learned on in High School was a TRS-80 Model III with 64KB Ram and dual 5–1/4" floppy drives... |
| [00:04:11] | monkeypet69: | coco 3 with a tape drive. |
| [00:04:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | Heh, I had the 'cheap' version after I got out of HS – My grandmother bought me an MC-10 ;-) |
| [00:06:56] | monkeypet69: | i loved my 1200 baud pocket modem. |
| [00:09:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehe... I'm trying to remember what brand mine was – got it from one of the mail-order places – my first 1200 baud modem was used on my TI-99/4A system – I ran a BBS on it with a 10MB drive and TONS of software that I had acquired from other BBS'... [woops, pretend you didn't hear that... it was a LONG time ago – don't do that anymore....] |
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| [00:09:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | actually, I had one before that... was using it with a CPM system that I had at the time... TI came a year or so later. |
| [00:10:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | yay, just got an email from the MythTV Android Frontend developer that I've been working with – progress – he's found an issue and says that he thinks my DB is good. ;-) |
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| [00:36:24] | quantum: | Buncha Oldsters around here... like me! |
| [00:36:49] | quantum: | My first computer was a Heathkit 8080, that I soldered all together myself! |
| [00:37:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: Hehehe, our first 'home' computer was a Timex-Sinclair 1000 Kit that my Dad & I soldered together in 1982. That's all we cold afford. ;-) |
| [00:38:35] | quantum: | LOL I put ine together in 1979 while stationed in Germany with the AF. |
| [00:38:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, so I'm a little bit younger than you then. ;-) |
| [00:39:01] | quantum: | It was missing ONE part (power diode) so I never could complete it. |
| [00:39:29] | quantum: | Trash80 was real big, but I've never had one. |
| [00:39:48] | quantum: | Then I went to work for DEC on the PDP-8 |
| [00:40:49] | quantum: | I also helped Bill with the Myth Android app. We found some bugs. Hopefully .10 will be out soon. |
| [00:40:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | Heh, I learned Basic in High School, and wrote a database on the TRS-80 Model III for the yearbook staff (it did the index for all the students for the yearbook – my HS was big – ~3500 students)... |
| [00:41:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: Awesome. ;-) Yeah, he worked with me for a couple of hours on Friday I think, and I left him with access to my DB for further testing. |
| [00:41:59] | quantum: | O man. I learned Cobol on punch cards! You learned to not make mistakes when you have to repunch 10000 cards... |
| [00:42:25] | quantum: | Paper tape was such an improvement! |
| [00:42:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehehe... I'm not that old school. ;-) We at least had Cassette tape. ;-) |
| [00:43:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | But I did teach myself Cobol in 1991, and the programs I wrote back then are still in production use at my former company... (They automated the batch process...) |
| [00:43:45] | quantum: | Man, they need an update... |
| [00:44:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehe... Most of the app is still in Cobol – running on a Tandem fault-tolerant mainframe... >5 Billion stock trades a day through the system – big $$$ |
| [00:45:25] | quantum: | Dang, they can't afford to take it down for upgrade... |
| [00:46:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: The systems have seven 9's of availability — 99.99999% uptime... In the 20 years I've been working with them, I've only seen a production system go down twice... (other than scheduled maintenance) |
| [00:47:12] | quantum: | Been having Hell with Myth and OpenGL this weekend... finally figured out all the right incantations and have it solid. Do NOT use make -j6 !! |
| [00:47:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehehehe... will keep that in mind! I have a quad-core cpu and *typically* use -j 8 ... |
| [00:47:57] | quantum: | ... stick with make. It doesn't have precedence down right. |
| [00:48:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | will do. ;-) |
| [00:48:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | I'm holding off on my 0.26 upgrade until you guys have had a chance to test changes with MAF against my system. ;-) |
| [00:48:45] | quantum: | And add your user to the video group, or no DRI. (/dev/nvidiactl) |
| [00:49:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | What OS are you using? |
| [00:49:07] | ** J-e-f-f-A is on Fedora Core 17 ** | |
| [00:49:16] | quantum: | Debian Testing. Hell, I'm on 0.27 nightly. |
| [00:49:40] | monkeypet69: | attempt 5 to boot fedora 18 on a mac mini, fedora, you suck, update your damn docs. |
| [00:49:59] | quantum: | Runs great on the HTPC. But the remote latop gave me hell. |
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| [00:50:21] | quantum: | ... 'bout 1000 libs to make sure you have installed... |
| [00:50:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehehehe... I ran trunk for a year or so, back when I wanted some new 'live TV' features that compared with Dish's PVR... but not since then, I prefer the stability/reliability of a release as my system has grown A LOT since then. ;-) |
| [00:51:32] | quantum: | Mine has ben very stable over the past six mo. In fact I'm recording Dish HD pure digital. No de/reencoding. |
| [00:51:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | If I hadn't lost my whole system due to a multi-drive failure that crashed my Raid5, my DB would go back to 2005. ;-) But alas, it 'only' goes back to 2008 now. ;-) |
| [00:52:20] | wagnerrp: | i think my DB goes back to 2006, or maybe 2007 |
| [00:52:33] | quantum: | Dude. You need a backup server. Mine's in the attic at the far end, in case of fire or theft. 10TB BTRFS array. |
| [00:52:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: I was doing that for a while, but it was a hassle at the time, and I no longer have Dish... I'm doing the same thing now with a Ceton tuner and CableCard (although I can't tune many of the movie channels with it...) |
| [00:53:09] | wagnerrp: | usually you want offsite backups in case of fire |
| [00:53:16] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: Ya I've recorded Dish for 5 years now or so. |
| [00:53:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: Hehe, it was only TV. I was 'bumming', but not the end of the world. I'm up to 7TB now – I replace a drive every 6 months or so expanding my capacity more... |
| [00:53:57] | wagnerrp: | either of you ever use Dish with a rotor? |
| [00:54:14] | quantum: | Yep, I had an overheating prob for a while, even with these WD Greens, but kicked my case fans up. |
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| [00:54:32] | quantum: | wagnerrp: 'rotor'? |
| [00:54:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: No, but I had two DP44 switches setup with 6 dishes at one point. ;-) |
| [00:54:54] | wagnerrp: | parents are having no end of trouble trying to get directv working in their motorhome with an autotracking dish |
| [00:55:01] | quantum: | O, antenna rotor. No need, I have all Dish channels pure digital. |
| [00:55:32] | wagnerrp: | and it turns out they're simply not going to be able to get HD at all with Directv since it's an old multiswitch unit and Direct changed to SWM |
| [00:55:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: My case is big, and has 4 120MM fans. Plus my HDD bays are 5x 3.5" in 3 5–1/4" bays (x2), for a total of 10 data drives... Never had a dive failure due to heat. |
| [00:55:48] | quantum: | wagnerrp: OK you can spend $300 or $5,000 on a rotor dish. |
| [00:56:04] | YMMS: | wagnerrp, I use disk with a rotor, mythtv talks to a phoenix box and it moves dish reliably |
| [00:56:09] | wagnerrp: | the money is already spent, it was pre-installed on the top of their motorhome |
| [00:56:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: they using it while driving, or stationary? |
| [00:56:40] | wagnerrp: | neither right now... simply can't get it working at all |
| [00:56:43] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: Mine's a Silverstone GD02 with case display. I followed the SilentPC philosophy, as it's right behind me. |
| [00:57:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | If just stationary, setup a tripod arrangement. ;-) That's what I did when I had Dish years ago. ;-) |
| [00:57:12] | quantum: | wagnerrp: hand crank, semi-auto, or auto? |
| [00:57:13] | wagnerrp: | every time they call up directv, they get told "the last guy didn't know what they were talking about, you actually need xxx component" |
| [00:57:18] | wagnerrp: | full auto |
| [00:57:33] | quantum: | Tracking while moving? |
| [00:57:44] | wagnerrp: | so it claims |
| [00:57:45] | YMMS: | Do they have an actuator box or is it a small motor moved with current from the tuner ? |
| [00:57:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: Ah, my BR frontend is an Antec Fusion Black 430 – near-silent with two low-speed 120mm fans. Backend is a behomouth with lots of fans in the [cool] basement. ;-) |
| [00:57:55] | quantum: | What's the difficulty? |
| [00:58:06] | wagnerrp: | it won't track |
| [00:58:17] | wagnerrp: | or it won't talk to the receiver |
| [00:58:19] | wagnerrp: | or something... |
| [00:58:22] | wagnerrp: | we don't know... |
| [00:58:32] | wagnerrp: | whatever the cause, the receiver won't set up properly |
| [00:58:41] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: I believe in a large quiet system in the HT, and it sounds like you do too. |
| [00:58:47] | YMMS: | wagnerrp, can you use the -R flag with szap to move the actuator ? |
| [00:58:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | I don't know how the auto-tracking dishes work... |
| [00:58:59] | wagnerrp: | and no one at directv seems to have a clue what they're talking about |
| [00:59:26] | wagnerrp: | YMMS: this is subscription satellite, i couldn't use it with a DVB-S[2] card even if I wanted to |
| [00:59:41] | quantum: | wagnerrp: First you have to get it to lock on to 119, 110, and 129. 129 is HD. There are always instructions with those to calibrate. |
| [00:59:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: instead of contacing DirecTV – maybe they need to call the manufacturer of the dish? (I don't think DTV makes the dish...) |
| [01:00:03] | quantum: | Sometimes there are DIP switches to choose Dish or Direct. |
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| [01:00:20] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: we have, and they claim it should work, however it was designed for directv's old system |
| [01:00:27] | wagnerrp: | before the recent change to SWM |
| [01:00:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah... |
| [01:00:41] | quantum: | O, DirecTV. That's the problem... :j |
| [01:01:02] | wagnerrp: | right... was asking if you had any such experience with Dish |
| [01:01:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | I wonder if the LNB(s) are 'swappable' with the new ones? Or is the comm protocol [completely different too? |
| [01:01:14] | wagnerrp: | because one option is to just can directv entirely, and try dish |
| [01:01:24] | wagnerrp: | however this is after canning cable and going to directv a couple weeks ago |
| [01:01:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | Well, they should have a 30-day cancel policy, so they should be OK if they go that route... |
| [01:01:56] | quantum: | If you get a dish that can get Dish 129, you are good. I've worked on these for friends, and the better quality ones work well. |
| [01:02:05] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: not too keen on getting up on the roof to disassemble this thing and swap LNBs |
| [01:02:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | I used to have Dish, and even their SD was stunning... I had HD for a short while with them before switching to FiOS, and had no complaints. |
| [01:02:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I hear ya. ;-) And they're probably not standard LNBs anyways. |
| [01:02:56] | wagnerrp: | tough to drag a spool of fiber behind a motorhome... :P |
| [01:02:58] | quantum: | wagnerrp: You'd be swapping the whole dome. |
| [01:03:09] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs. ;-) ** | |
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| [01:03:26] | wagnerrp: | looks like they claim 110/119/129 support for dish |
| [01:03:36] | quantum: | 129 is HD. |
| [01:03:56] | quantum: | Autotracking while moving is most desirable. |
| [01:04:14] | wagnerrp: | anyway, it's not dip switches. it's programmable with a pair of 3-way toggled and two blinking LEDs |
| [01:04:22] | quantum: | 110/119 are SD for the most part, altho some HD on 110. |
| [01:04:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | Cool. ;-) You could test it with any Dish receiver that works... |
| [01:04:26] | wagnerrp: | extremely clumsy, but presumably something that wouldn't need to happen more than once |
| [01:05:15] | wagnerrp: | you know... they might be able to ask my uncle to borrow one of his receivers to try it out |
| [01:05:18] | quantum: | You can spend $300 and hand-crank, or $3,000 and auto-track. |
| [01:05:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | On the east coast, we have 61.5, 72 and 77 for a triple 'super-dish' that's ONLY HD. But you wouldn't be able to hit those sats in the western part of the US. ;-) |
| [01:05:50] | wagnerrp: | (he has Dish) |
| [01:05:53] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: Ya you're Eastern Arc. |
| [01:06:25] | quantum: | I think 61.5 is HD there... |
| [01:06:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | quantum: Yeah, I was using 110/119 for years with SD Dish... and because of the low angle (22 degrees), would get interference from time to time. |
| [01:06:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | 61.5 *used* to be mostly international, but is mostly HD now. |
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| [01:07:12] | quantum: | We used to use 61.5 for internationals here (WA), but it was almost on the horizon. |
| [01:07:55] | quantum: | Also 61.5 used to W-O-B-B-L-E, but I guess they've replaced it. |
| [01:08:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, that's the way 110/119 were almost for me... ;-) |
| [01:08:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | The setup of the 61.5/72/77 dish was simple... and 97%+ Signal strength... |
| [01:09:07] | quantum: | Dish has an HD ONLY package, but it's not advertised and you have to ask for it. (cheaper) |
| [01:09:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | But was only usable with HD receivers, as they only beamed MPEG4 from it, even on the SD channels. |
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| [01:10:03] | quantum: | Yep, we still have mpeg2 for cheaper receivers, but SD only of course. They need time to send all the old receivers to South America. |
| [01:10:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | And I got a package from VZ (double-play – Internet & Cable) for less than I was paying for Dish alone... So that's why I switched. ;-) |
| [01:10:46] | quantum: | Ya I have HD only Silver. Wish I could get Science tho... |
| [01:11:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | One thing that sucked was that BBC America wasn't in HD on Dish until a couple of months ago... I *LOVE* that channel. ;-) |
| [01:11:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | s/Dish/FiOS/ |
| [01:12:00] | quantum: | Just about all the good ones are HD now. |
| [01:12:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | Now I get to see "Top Gear" in all it's HD glory. ;-) |
| [01:12:26] | wagnerrp: | one thing that sucked was that the local phoneco ended their fiber/iptv service halfway down my street |
| [01:12:29] | quantum: | O ya |
| [01:12:56] | quantum: | wagnerrp: Yer not missing anything. Their DVRs suck. |
| [01:13:12] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [01:13:30] | quantum: | They suck. |
| [01:13:35] | wagnerrp: | they who? |
| [01:13:53] | quantum: | Verizon's fiber TV DVRs |
| [01:13:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, I'm bumming as I'm moving soon, and won't be able to get FiOS anymore... I'll be stuck with Charter. :-( (It's either that or Satellite and DSL for internet – YUCK!) |
| [01:14:14] | ** J-e-f-f-A doesn't use their DVR, just Myth. ;-) ** | |
| [01:14:19] | wagnerrp: | verizon isn't in my area, and i wouldn't be using their DVRs for anything more than dumb receivers even if i did have them |
| [01:14:26] | quantum: | DSL has gotten light-years better. |
| [01:14:53] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: I do too, but practically no one else can record all-digital with Myth. |
| [01:15:03] | wagnerrp: | technically, this would be DSL, VDSL2 to a FTTN node at the top of the street |
| [01:15:20] | wagnerrp: | but apparently the attenuation on our lines is too great to make it more than about halfway down the street |
| [01:16:11] | quantum: | J-e-f-f-A: ... at least from Dish HD... |
| [01:17:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, I hear ya. I tried it for a while. ;-) |
| [01:17:11] | quantum: | Whelp, time to drink. |
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| [01:17:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | hehehe... enjoy. ttyl. |
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| [01:20:04] | wagnerrp: | i guess people don't realize verizon is a cable company and not iptv? |
| [01:21:45] | quantum: | It's IPTV in WA anyway. |
| [01:22:12] | wagnerrp: | then they've changed their service |
| [01:22:37] | wagnerrp: | it used to be standard cable, transduced over fiber |
| [01:22:45] | sheppard: | rfog! |
| [01:24:30] | wagnerrp: | their two-way communication is over the internet, and possibly as is their VOD services |
| [01:24:50] | wagnerrp: | but the standard video channels are traditional cable, and works just fine with cablecard gear |
| [01:36:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, still 'traditional cable' here in MA. No external tuners needed with my Ceton. |
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| [01:39:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | I think all the PPV/On-Demand is IPTV, but 'standard' cable channels aren't. ;-) [yet?] |
| [01:39:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | But since I don't use that, I don't care. ;-) |
| [01:39:54] | wagnerrp: | it would be nothing but an extra load on their network to make the standard channels iptv |
| [01:40:19] | wagnerrp: | since as it works right now, cable operates on a different carrier wave, and operates independently of IP traffic |
| [01:42:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yep. ;-) But Fiber has way more bandwidth than copper. ;-) HD on FiOS is SO MUCH clearer than C*mcast... Although I think C*mcast has transitioned to Mpeg4, so they may be catching up to FiOS quality now... |
| [01:43:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | I'm worried about how good the HD channels will be on Charter when I move... but I really won't have a choice if I want any High-Speed internet... |
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| [02:04:28] | wagnerrp: | comcast would only be using mpeg4 if they replaced all their boxes in subscribers' homes |
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| [02:39:41] | [R]: | i hate going ghrough the list of movies trying to find decent ones to ercord |
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| [04:29:38] | monkeypet69: | broadband is hard if you leave it to comcast and cable companies. |
| [04:30:39] | [R]: | that's what she said? |
| [04:39:38] | Korny2: | sigh its impossible to find a decent htpc case thats not over priced :/ |
| [04:39:49] | wagnerrp: | define overpriced |
| [04:40:05] | Korny2: | and underfeatured :) |
| [04:40:19] | Korny2: | depends on the features |
| [04:40:44] | [R]: | i got one on amazon |
| [04:40:46] | [R]: | for like $40 |
| [04:41:00] | [R]: | then again... it has no "features" |
| [04:41:05] | [R]: | dunno what "features" a case needs... |
| [04:41:44] | Korny2: | [R] I need it to hold 4 HD's + an ssd |
| [04:41:55] | wagnerrp: | [R]: it could come with benefits |
| [04:41:56] | [R]: | sounds like you need a backend, not an htpc |
| [04:42:05] | Korny2: | its going to be both :) |
| [04:42:12] | Korny2: | I'm changing my setup a bit |
| [04:42:14] | wagnerrp: | right, my HTPCs have no hard drives |
| [04:42:20] | [R]: | mine ither |
| [04:42:26] | Korny2: | http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-LC13B-E . . . ds=htpc+case |
| [04:42:31] | Korny2: | I'm thinking something like that |
| [04:42:41] | Korny2: | it would look good next to my reciever |
| [04:42:50] | [R]: | ZOMG $115 |
| [04:42:50] | wagnerrp: | no physical ones, anyway... just logical disks |
| [04:43:00] | Korny2: | lol |
| [04:44:04] | Korny2: | I'm trying to lower my power useage, so my dedicated back end is going to be transformed into a backend/front end |
| [04:44:38] | Korny2: | with an ht3220t 35 watt ivy bridge processor |
| [04:44:55] | wagnerrp: | why bother with a low wattage processor? |
| [04:44:57] | Korny2: | and gt520 fanless |
| [04:45:24] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, because its only 5 dollars more then the 65 watt equivlent |
| [04:45:37] | wagnerrp: | my dedicated frontend runs around 25W at the wall, on a 55W ivy bridge pentium, and a power supply that runs <<60% efficient at those low loads |
| [04:46:08] | wagnerrp: | your power supply is going to draw more power than your CPU |
| [04:46:35] | Korny2: | well with 4 hd's and a gt520 maybe it pushes it back into 80 percentile? |
| [04:46:43] | wagnerrp: | especially considering you're likely to put a 400–500W ATX PSU in there |
| [04:47:08] | wagnerrp: | the hard drives will be spun down, the SSD won't be doing much anyway, and even that GT520 is only going to idle at <20W |
| [04:47:21] | wagnerrp: | you should be idling well under 50W |
| [04:47:56] | Korny2: | Try finding a power supply thats less then 300 watts thats efficent(they don't make many) |
| [04:48:04] | Korny2: | I'm looking at an earthwatts 380 |
| [04:48:11] | Korny2: | I like antec |
| [04:48:51] | Korny2: | I'm also going to be running a newznab server on it(heavy mysql usage occassionally) |
| [04:49:13] | wagnerrp: | if you see a seasonic that's cheaper, they're the same thing |
| [04:49:18] | wagnerrp: | seasonic is antec's OEM |
| [04:49:50] | Korny2: | so just get an i3 doesn't matter if its low power? |
| [04:50:06] | wagnerrp: | they're all going to idle at low power |
| [04:50:31] | wagnerrp: | although apparently you need to watch the heat output on those things |
| [04:50:42] | Korny2: | which ones? |
| [04:50:55] | wagnerrp: | claims are that they're using a poor thermal compound between the die and the heat spreader |
| [04:51:10] | Korny2: | lovely |
| [04:51:12] | wagnerrp: | so they run hotter with the same cooling, even at lower power outputs |
| [04:51:37] | wagnerrp: | not a big issue as long as you have halfway decent ventilation, and aren't trying to overclock it |
| [04:52:20] | Korny2: | nah one of the cases I'm looking at has 3 120's |
| [04:52:26] | Korny2: | that run nice and slwo to make a quiet case |
| [04:56:32] | Korny2: | I have a very large cooler for my old 9550 wonder if it would as a passive cooler on a 35 watt chip ll |
| [04:57:20] | wagnerrp: | did the 9550 even need a separate power input? |
| [04:57:35] | wagnerrp: | i think that was lower enough it could run off the AGP slot alone |
| [04:57:44] | Korny2: | eh? |
| [04:57:53] | Korny2: | I'm talkign an old intel quad core |
| [04:58:01] | Korny2: | http://www.amazon.com/Dynatron-Bridge-Passive . . . +cooler+1155 |
| [04:58:12] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you meant a 9550 All In Wonder |
| [04:58:12] | Korny2: | wonder if that would cool a 35 watt chip |
| [04:58:23] | wagnerrp: | although i was sort of wondering how you would strap a GPU cooler to a CPU |
| [04:59:09] | Korny2: | lol |
| [04:59:35] | [R]: | gotta put your strap on |
| [05:00:42] | Korny2: | a full copper cooler shouldn't have any issues with 35 watts of cpu lol |
| [05:01:10] | Korny2: | Although sigh, that one I linked is for 1156 |
| [05:01:11] | Korny2: | sigh |
| [05:01:55] | Korny2: | oh wait its not |
| [05:01:57] | wagnerrp: | a full copper cooler is stupid |
| [05:02:31] | wagnerrp: | it's unnecessarily heavy, and won't perform as well as aluminum fins tied to some heatpipes |
| [05:03:11] | wagnerrp: | especially if the aluminum is scintered |
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| [05:05:25] | Korny2: | I'll try the stock heat sink to see how loud it is |
| [05:05:50] | wagnerrp: | mine is barely audible with the PWM controller tuned down |
| [05:05:59] | wagnerrp: | although i need ot figure out what to do with the power supply |
| [05:06:09] | wagnerrp: | inefficient and noisy |
| [05:06:56] | Korny2: | get a brick? |
| [05:07:46] | Korny2: | i just read my 1055 ht idless with mobo at over 90 watts |
| [05:07:47] | Korny2: | ugg |
| [05:08:05] | Korny2: | We wont' even talk about how bad it would be under load |
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| [05:19:08] | Korny2: | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004E4ITC4/?tag=pcpapi-20 I could just get something like that |
| [05:19:12] | Korny2: | and hide it |
| [05:19:13] | Korny2: | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004E4ITC4/?tag=pcpapi-20 |
| [05:19:17] | Korny2: | whoops sorry |
| [05:19:39] | wagnerrp: | i have a cheapo dumpster dived beige box as one of my frontends |
| [05:19:58] | wagnerrp: | sitting on a shelf in the basement, with an HDMI cable running up through the floor to the TV directly above |
| [05:20:12] | wagnerrp: | completely silent, completely invisible |
| [05:20:36] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, I was goign to ask if you thought it was worthwhile putting my HDHR x2 and HDHR primes on their own seperate network? |
| [05:20:47] | Korny2: | on my backend |
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| [05:20:59] | wagnerrp: | is your network gigabit? |
| [05:21:03] | Korny2: | yes |
| [05:21:20] | Korny2: | but I have a spare gigabite adaptor sitting around as well |
| [05:21:28] | wagnerrp: | do you expect to come anywhere near saturating that network with other data? |
| [05:21:54] | Korny2: | hmmmm not on a regular basis for extended periods of time |
| [05:22:16] | Korny2: | I may copy a 9 gig file to my file server from my desktop or something along those lines |
| [05:22:35] | wagnerrp: | sure, but copying a file isn't likely to saturate it |
| [05:22:40] | Korny2: | no |
| [05:24:00] | Korny2: | part fo the reason I'm changing things around is we will be apartmetn livign for 6 months after we move, so I will loose a dedicated office like I have now, so I figure if I can make my backend a frontend as well I can live with just my laptop for the time being |
| [05:24:29] | Korny2: | and run cable to the other 2 front ends |
| [05:24:30] | wagnerrp: | well that was unexpected |
| [05:24:34] | Korny2: | What? |
| [05:24:36] | wagnerrp: | it's not the PSU, it's the case fan |
| [05:24:40] | Korny2: | lol |
| [05:24:50] | Korny2: | least thats cheaper |
| [05:25:00] | Korny2: | I always have 1 spare 120 and 80 mm sitting around |
| [05:25:50] | Korny2: | One of the cases I'm looking at has 60mm fans, I like all the features but that :/ |
| [05:25:51] | wagnerrp: | cost was not a factor, because it's not a solution in this case |
| [05:26:05] | wagnerrp: | it's a proprietary PSU shape, so it's not like i could swap in a new one |
| [05:26:09] | Korny2: | ah |
| [05:26:12] | wagnerrp: | i would have to take it apart and swap the fan |
| [05:26:20] | wagnerrp: | where as this case fan, i just turn the switch to low |
| [05:26:38] | Korny2: | or flick it with your finger... |
| [05:26:46] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [05:27:47] | Korny2: | ever taken a fan hit it with your finger? |
| [05:27:54] | wagnerrp: | i mean the solution is to change the selector switch on the back of the case |
| [05:28:01] | wagnerrp: | many times |
| [05:28:10] | wagnerrp: | try to avoid doing that with a panaflo |
| [05:28:11] | Korny2: | Eventually that fan will die though |
| [05:28:16] | Korny2: | hmmm https://pcpartpicker.com/part/lian-li-case-pca04b is a pretty case |
| [05:28:24] | wagnerrp: | die why? |
| [05:28:41] | Korny2: | is it clicking ? or just being noisey at a higher speed? |
| [05:28:49] | wagnerrp: | just being noisy at higher speed |
| [05:28:55] | wagnerrp: | it's an antec tri-speed fan |
| [05:29:39] | wagnerrp: | but yeah, don't get in the way of a panaflo... took a nice chunk out of my thumb that way |
| [05:30:00] | Korny2: | I think I foudn my case |
| [05:30:02] | Korny2: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . 566&SID= |
| [05:30:07] | Korny2: | its on sale |
| [05:30:43] | Korny2: | 80 dollars off |
| [05:31:05] | Korny2: | its not a htpc but its kinda interesting looking |
| [05:31:48] | Korny2: | and nice slow 120mm fans |
| [05:33:17] | wagnerrp: | i was considering a yeong yang cube years back, ended up getting a codegen instead |
| [05:33:38] | Korny2: | What do you think of that box for 69 bucks though |
| [05:34:41] | Korny2: | probably a bit overkill for my needs, but holds HD's and should be quiet |
| [05:34:57] | Korny2: | 1000 rpm fans tend to be pretty quiet |
| [05:35:49] | wagnerrp: | i expect annoyingly bright front LEDs |
| [05:36:04] | Korny2: | Easy to fix |
| [05:36:19] | Korny2: | don't connect the HD light or black marker :) |
| [05:36:56] | wagnerrp: | i was considering this one, but it's much larger... http://www.aconto.de/info/yeongyang/inf_0420.htm |
| [05:37:35] | Korny2: | lol yeah MUCH larger |
| [05:37:44] | Korny2: | Thats an appliance :P |
| [05:38:02] | Korny2: | I can't wait to have a basement agian, we are in Memphis,tn they don't build basments here |
| [05:38:11] | Korny2: | We are moving back to Minnesota, |
| [05:38:49] | wagnerrp: | unsuitable geology? |
| [05:41:21] | wagnerrp: | trying to figure out why this thing wouldn't turn back on |
| [05:41:30] | wagnerrp: | the wire bundle wasn't actually plugged into the strip |
| [05:41:48] | Korny2: | To wet |
| [05:42:18] | wagnerrp: | wet can be handled, so long as you're above the water table |
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| [05:45:58] | Korny2: | whooo all ordered |
| [05:54:07] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, think the ati linux drivers will ever be as functional as the nivdia ones in terms of video offloading |
| [05:54:23] | wagnerrp: | no idea |
| [06:02:23] | [R]: | fancy, thetvdb is down, but it still works |
| [06:02:28] | [R]: | got some fancy banner on top |
| [06:05:35] | wagnerrp: | i don't understand why the power and windows buttons don't get any response from the driver any longer either |
| [06:06:19] | wagnerrp: | (on the remote) |
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| [06:09:46] | YMMS: | ati drivers off load stress to the poor sucker who bought an ati card |
| [06:12:11] | Korny2: | YMMS, the only reason I ask is because of the fm1 chips is all |
| [06:12:51] | wagnerrp: | you would be better off just trying to get OpenGL capability out of them, than trying for hardware decoding |
| [06:12:58] | Korny2: | hmmm just added 9 tb to my future array :) |
| [06:13:33] | YMMS: | Korny, I made the mistake of getting ati and for the life of me could not get hdmi audio to work nicely |
| [06:13:57] | Korny2: | I really like my passive nvidia gt520 |
| [06:14:44] | Korny2: | for a little cheaper I could have gotten anther card that does vpadu however the gt520 supports revision D |
| [06:27:57] | YMMS: | wish there were motherboards with onboard nvidia graphics |
| [06:27:57] | wagnerrp: | when you've got plenty of CPU power to not need hardware decoding, why use hardware decoding? |
| [06:36:43] | clever: | usualy, power/energy savings, which arent important when your on mains |
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| [06:37:32] | wagnerrp: | my frontend is 25W idle, or 32W during playback |
| [06:38:01] | clever: | yeah, its not much on mains, only a big issue when battery life comes in |
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| [06:51:09] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, think the i3 has enough processing power to run the back end/commercial flagging and still play video decently? |
| [06:51:22] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [06:52:00] | Korny2: | I was reading something that the newer i3's are almost as powerfull as the first gen i7's not sure if thats true though |
| [06:52:51] | Korny2: | My laptop is my fastest machine :/ i7 3610qm with 12 gigs of ram lol |
| [06:54:10] | wagnerrp: | i'm sure it depends on the workload |
| [06:54:42] | wagnerrp: | each core is considerably more powerful |
| [06:54:51] | Korny2: | but 2 vs 4 |
| [06:54:56] | wagnerrp: | but you've got half the cores, less than half the L3, and only 2 memory channels |
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| [06:56:56] | Korny2: | http://processors.findthebest.com/compare/818 . . . tel-i3-3220T |
| [06:57:01] | Korny2: | interesting comparrison |
| [06:57:35] | sheppard: | looooool |
| [06:57:38] | sheppard: | use ark.intel.com |
| [06:57:46] | wagnerrp: | huh? they're both ivy bridge cores |
| [06:57:58] | wagnerrp: | that's not a "first gen i7" |
| [06:58:02] | Korny2: | oh I know |
| [06:58:04] | Korny2: | thats my laptop |
| [06:58:12] | Korny2: | But its saying the 3220t is 1156... |
| [06:58:20] | Korny2: | but I though tit was 1155 :/ |
| [06:58:34] | sheppard: | it is 1155 |
| [06:58:40] | sheppard: | stop using shitty useless sites |
| [06:58:44] | wagnerrp: | that page is retarded |
| [06:58:49] | Korny2: | lol |
| [06:58:49] | sheppard: | http://ark.intel.com/products/65694/Intel-Cor . . . che-2_80-GHz |
| [06:58:50] | wagnerrp: | i agree with sheppard |
| [06:58:52] | sheppard: | FCLGA1155 |
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| [07:03:21] | wagnerrp: | toms doesn't seen to have anything comparable to the 3610qm |
| [07:03:49] | wagnerrp: | but no matter |
| [07:04:10] | wagnerrp: | the only difference between that i3 and that i7 is twice the L3 and turbo |
| [07:04:34] | wagnerrp: | so figure on a clock-per-clock basis, they would perform similarly |
| [07:04:44] | wagnerrp: | (well, and twice the cores) |
| [07:05:54] | Korny2: | hmmm http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts . . . rod[6003]=on |
| [07:06:06] | Korny2: | interesting what a low power cpu does now days |
| [07:06:14] | Korny2: | and thats a low end low power cpu |
| [07:07:28] | sheppard: | no e5 on there |
| [07:07:29] | sheppard: | terrible |
| [07:07:38] | wagnerrp: | e5? |
| [07:08:21] | wagnerrp: | the only tests the i3 is even close are ones that are largely single threaded |
| [07:08:23] | sheppard: | xeon |
| [07:08:36] | wagnerrp: | everything else, the 1055 stomps it |
| [07:08:45] | wagnerrp: | by double or better |
| [07:08:46] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, I didn't see they were compareable I said it was ineresting |
| [07:08:53] | Korny2: | *interesting |
| [07:09:34] | Korny2: | I wonder how much more the i5 4 core is lol |
| [07:09:50] | wagnerrp: | probably around $200 |
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| [07:11:02] | wagnerrp: | to be completely honest, i would never consider an iAnything for a server |
| [07:11:08] | Korny2: | meh nto worth it |
| [07:11:17] | wagnerrp: | i'd either get an AMD chip, or some kind of Xeon |
| [07:11:49] | Korny2: | I'm mainly looking for low power consumption more then anything |
| [07:11:50] | wagnerrp: | intel doesn't do ECC on their consumer chips |
| [07:12:18] | sheppard: | wagnerrp: new ivy bridge supports it it seems |
| [07:12:34] | wagnerrp: | oh? they changed that policy finally? |
| [07:12:56] | sheppard: | even that shitty little i3–3220T supports it |
| [07:13:37] | Korny2: | Hey now :( |
| [07:13:50] | sheppard: | what |
| [07:13:53] | Korny2: | For my purposes it works fine |
| [07:13:57] | sheppard: | it's one of their cheapest products |
| [07:14:01] | wagnerrp: | yeah, seems they changed it with ivy bridge |
| [07:14:12] | sheppard: | maybe shitty was uncalled for |
| [07:14:12] | wagnerrp: | they used to have that feature disabled on the consumer memory controllers |
| [07:14:21] | wagnerrp: | and... language |
| [07:14:21] | Korny2: | Its lowend |
| [07:14:43] | sheppard: | wagnerrp: southpark said it's okay to use it in that sense |
| [07:15:01] | Korny2: | I'm going to put the 1055 in ym desktop and just turn it on when I need it |
| [07:15:01] | wagnerrp: | the xeons were identical silicon, but had ecc enabled when the consumer chips didn't |
| [07:15:07] | wagnerrp: | doesn't matter, channel rules |
| [07:15:29] | Korny2: | I suppose I could use my laptop, but high heat applications I don't like with my laptop |
| [07:16:34] | sheppard: | just buy the gosh darn i3 |
| [07:16:38] | Korny2: | Well other then games of course |
| [07:16:49] | Korny2: | I already did lol |
| [07:17:00] | sheppard: | good boy |
| [07:17:03] | Korny2: | and 3 3tb wd reds |
| [07:17:20] | sheppard: | I'm trying out some seagates |
| [07:17:25] | sheppard: | so far no infant failures |
| [07:18:08] | wagnerrp: | those "infant failures" were caused by a bad firmware, and an issue booting up on a rolling SMART counter |
| [07:18:22] | Korny2: | my seagates have been good to me |
| [07:18:28] | Korny2: | all my 1.5's are seagates |
| [07:18:33] | Korny2: | use em for my backend |
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| [07:18:36] | sheppard: | all drives can have infant failures, due to poor shipping, etc. |
| [07:18:36] | wagnerrp: | if you booted when it happened to cycle, it was bricked |
| [07:18:57] | wagnerrp: | i mean the big furor on the internet about failing seagates two years ago |
| [07:19:08] | sheppard: | wasn't referring to any specific prior issue |
| [07:19:15] | sheppard: | these are 3TB el-cheapos |
| [07:20:30] | Korny2: | eh wd reds are cheap |
| [07:20:42] | sheppard: | ha ha, these were cheaper |
| [07:20:44] | Korny2: | ish |
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| [07:21:57] | Korny2: | SUpposedly the reds are designed for nas |
| [07:22:07] | sheppard: | yes |
| [07:22:13] | sheppard: | I'm attempting to cheat by using zfs |
| [07:22:19] | wagnerrp: | they're all physically identical. it's just different tuning in the firmware |
| [07:22:44] | sheppard: | so I don't really 'need' nas enabled drives, or ecc on the drive (we'll see how that goes) |
| [07:23:00] | wagnerrp: | the greens autopark after a few seconds, the raid edition give up early on UBEs expecting the RAID will recover on its own |
| [07:23:10] | wagnerrp: | i don't know what was changed on the AV or Red drives |
| [07:23:45] | sheppard: | http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43660 |
| [07:23:48] | sheppard: | those are interesting |
| [07:24:00] | sheppard: | URE is still terrible |
| [07:24:00] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, that can be turned off |
| [07:25:00] | wagnerrp: | awfully pricey |
| [07:25:01] | Korny2: | enterprise affordable... |
| [07:25:09] | Korny2: | isnt' that an oxymoron |
| [07:25:22] | sheppard: | depends on how far into enterprise you are |
| [07:25:55] | Korny2: | wagnerrp, I don't think they sell the AV's anymore, I think the reds replaced them |
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| [08:14:51] | Korny2: | Not sure if anyone's awake, but I'll ask anyhow. If I do a backup of mythconverg does it keep all settings on the backend? |
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| [09:21:54] | dekarl: | [R]... http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvwish.html |
| [09:27:03] | Korny2: | Interesting |
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| [19:06:03] | TTilus: | how do i go about debugging scheduled recording? |
| [19:08:57] | TTilus: | hitting "r" on epg does not set the program to be recorded |
| [19:09:34] | TTilus: | neither does <ret> and selecting proper options |
| [19:14:09] | TTilus: | however scheduled recordings set in both ways do appear in recording rules |
| [19:14:22] | TTilus: | but not in upcoming recordings |
| [19:31:46] | sphery: | TTilus: are you sure it's not choosing to record a later showing? |
| [19:53:14] | TTilus: | sphery: pretty sure |
| [19:53:26] | TTilus: | sphery: nothing shows up on upcoming records |
| [19:54:21] | TTilus: | recording rule appears in record table in db and recording rules list |
| [19:54:21] | XDS2010_ is now known as XDS2010 | |
| [19:54:55] | TTilus: | this used to work fine |
| [19:56:04] | TTilus: | previously when i went to epg and hit "r" on a program it would turn green and a letter would appear in a circle, overlaid on the program box |
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| [19:56:32] | TTilus: | now it does not turn green anymore, nor does overlaid letter appear |
| [19:58:23] | TTilus: | recording rules ive set previously (week ago or earlier) do appear green in epg and they appear on upcoming recordings, but don't actually get recorded :( |
| [19:59:22] | TTilus: | could the db be somehow mangled? |
| [19:59:53] | TTilus: | it is pretty old and has survived several upgrades already |
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| [22:03:47] | test__: | is anyone here? |
| [22:04:45] | Steve_Goodey: | Oh yes. |
| [22:04:49] | wagnerrp: | nope, all idle |
| [22:04:56] | sheppard: | they're all dead man |
| [22:05:01] | sheppard: | game over mannnn game over! |
| [22:05:20] | wagnerrp: | why don't you just go piss your pants on the edge of a dam |
| [22:05:34] | Steve_Goodey: | Charming. |
| [22:05:40] | test__: | heh |
| [22:06:01] | wagnerrp: | Steve_Goodey: i think you need to watch more movies |
| [22:06:21] | Steve_Goodey: | Just about to look it up. |
| [22:06:40] | wagnerrp: | Aliens and True Lies |
| [22:06:43] | sheppard: | wagnerrp: language |
| [22:07:18] | sheppard: | I thought fugitive with the dam |
| [22:07:35] | wagnerrp: | bill paxton wasn't in the fugitive |
| [22:07:47] | test__: | what is usually the reason for not being able to get live tv or program data after successful tuning through myth |
| [22:08:08] | wagnerrp: | usually file permissions on your recording paths |
| [22:09:08] | test__: | tried that with 777 perms on the paths |
| [22:09:33] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs, they'll often report the error |
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| [22:12:17] | test__: | if i run the backend in verbose mode i get that error DTVChan(/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): SetChannelByString(532): failure – same issue for any channel . Trying to tune livetv non verbose mode : TVRec(9): Failed to set channel to 21. Reverting to kState_None |
| [22:12:37] | test__: | doesn't matter what channel it is I get the same errors |
| [22:12:53] | Steve_Goodey: | G64 how's it going? |
| [22:13:56] | wagnerrp: | how did you populate those channels? |
| [22:14:05] | test__: | through mythtv |
| [22:14:18] | wagnerrp: | i mean a channel scan off your DVB tuner? |
| [22:14:54] | G64: | Hi Steve |
| [22:15:01] | G64: | Well, so so to be honoust |
| [22:15:28] | G64: | Yesterday i turned the system to standby and now it starts but not directly to the main MythTV screen |
| [22:15:28] | Steve_Goodey: | G64: Still problems? |
| [22:15:43] | G64: | And the confgiuration of the 4 tuners is not really clear (yet) |
| [22:16:30] | G64: | i have 4 tuners but it seemed that yesterday when i was recording i was only able to browse channels in the same transponderstream from the channel that was recording |
| [22:17:24] | G64: | And 1 other very annoying bug is that everytime i turn on the system the screen is overly green |
| [22:17:47] | Steve_Goodey: | G64: Did you get all the channels required during a scan? |
| [22:18:01] | G64: | That is definatly a HDMI comptibilty somewhere because when i turn my Receiver (that has all the HDMI ports) Off and On the screen is ok |
| [22:18:20] | G64: | It found 133 channels and i think there supposed to be around 165 |
| [22:18:51] | test__: | wagnerrp – not sure what you mean.. I went to the input connections option and tuned through there with appropraite frequencies |
| [22:18:52] | G64: | But it might be that Encrupted channels were not found (or skipped) during the scan |
| [22:19:38] | Steve_Goodey: | G64: Welcome to mythtv!! |
| [22:19:45] | G64: | Haha |
| [22:20:46] | G64: | It looks that when MythTV "runs" it will run forever, but before it does i might turn 80 |
| [22:21:00] | G64: | So thats just around another 50 years :D |
| [22:21:50] | Steve_Goodey: | G64: A mere boy :-) |
| [22:22:15] | G64: | Does anyone know if there are any projects like OpenElec that create Embedded versions of MythTV (or other Backends) |
| [22:22:41] | wagnerrp: | embedded versions? |
| [22:22:45] | G64: | yes |
| [22:22:52] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [22:22:58] | wagnerrp: | you mean pre-built systems? |
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| [22:23:36] | G64: | You have XBMC to install on several different systems. You first install the OS (Linux, WIndows, MacOS), then you install XBMC in that OS |
| [22:23:43] | G64: | Thats the normal way |
| [22:24:05] | G64: | But OpenElec is an embedded version of XBMC that runs without the underlying OS |
| [22:24:19] | G64: | So its blazing fast and just around 150 – 300 MB |
| [22:24:21] | wagnerrp: | well in that sense, there's mythbuntu and linhes |
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| [22:24:43] | G64: | But those are Linux OS's with Mythbuntu integrated |
| [22:24:44] | wagnerrp: | minimyth used to install on CF cards as small as 256MB |
| [22:24:51] | wagnerrp: | but i'm not sure if they can still manage that small |
| [22:25:00] | wagnerrp: | so? what do you think openelec is? |
| [22:25:18] | wagnerrp: | it's still a normal gnu linux system |
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| [22:25:22] | sraue: | wagnerrp, G64 minimyth is like openelec |
| [22:25:31] | G64: | ah ok |
| [22:25:33] | wagnerrp: | just with all the additional cruft left out |
| [22:25:35] | G64: | Hi sraue :) |
| [22:25:40] | sraue: | hi :-) |
| [22:26:03] | sraue: | if you need something like openelec for mythtv try minimyth :-) |
| [22:26:16] | wagnerrp: | it's not like they wrap the entire OS up within the xbmc binaries, or replace gnu with busybox |
| [22:26:44] | G64: | Ok, i dud just found that half an hour ago |
| [22:26:51] | G64: | ddi |
| [22:26:53] | G64: | did |
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| [22:29:52] | G64: | i'll try minimyth but i think my Tuner card might proably end the fun there :) |
| [22:30:26] | wagnerrp: | tuner support is integrated into the kernel, not the OS |
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| [22:30:37] | wagnerrp: | the only difficulty you may run into is getting the necessary firmware for it |
| [22:31:17] | G64: | the firmware is available i guess because while getting Mythbunt to work i found the firmwares |
| [22:31:21] | wagnerrp: | still, i'm not sure the value in an "embedded" mythtv installation. especially for something that is supposed to operate as a backend |
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| [22:31:36] | G64: | And hopefully i did that correctly |
| [22:31:37] | wagnerrp: | considering it's going to need gobs of storage for recordings |
| [22:31:43] | wagnerrp: | what's an extra few GB for the OS? |
| [22:31:44] | G64: | But i am not a Linux wizz |
| [22:32:45] | G64: | I look for something that has not much to configure and something that "just works" |
| [22:32:58] | wagnerrp: | usually that's mythbuntu |
| [22:33:05] | G64: | And OpenElec is the best example for that |
| [22:33:24] | G64: | i could take the oldest USB stick i have and would still fit easily and still be fast |
| [22:33:50] | G64: | But a thing i would like to do with my setup is stream to mobiel devices |
| [22:33:59] | G64: | And thats a thing i have not found so far |
| [22:34:18] | G64: | I know or sure that it will come in the future |
| [22:34:20] | wagnerrp: | you're going to need a fair amount of power to accomplish that |
| [22:34:21] | G64: | for sure |
| [22:34:42] | wagnerrp: | the live transcoding employed by the HLS server is rather internsive |
| [22:34:45] | wagnerrp: | *intensive |
| [22:35:01] | G64: | i have bought a Core i3 3225 on an Asrock H77M-itx board with 16GB |
| [22:35:07] | wagnerrp: | should be plenty |
| [22:35:24] | G64: | and just ordered a 64GB SSD + 1,5TB Seagate Pipeline HDD |
| [22:35:29] | G64: | yes :D |
| [22:36:07] | G64: | Maybe overkill, but i rather have that, then not enough power :) |
| [22:36:18] | G64: | and with a 4 tuner DVB-C card |
| [22:36:37] | G64: | And sraue fixed has fixed that the card is supported in OE |
| [22:37:04] | wagnerrp: | but he's an xbmc developer isn't he? |
| [22:37:13] | wagnerrp: | tuner card support is usually left up to the linuxtv folks |
| [22:37:32] | G64: | no, he is the developer of OE |
| [22:38:05] | wagnerrp: | right, but aside from making sure the necessary firmware is in the right place, there shouldn't be anything him or OE would need to do to make it work |
| [22:38:36] | G64: | Well, i don't know how he fixed it, but he did |
| [22:38:52] | G64: | and i am still very grateful for that :) |
| [22:38:56] | wagnerrp: | the drivers are all in the kernel, so as long as it's running a sufficiently recent kernel with the necessary modules compiled, there should be nothing to do |
| [22:39:17] | wagnerrp: | i presume this is unencrypted DVB-C? |
| [22:39:23] | G64: | Nope |
| [22:39:44] | wagnerrp: | then that 4-tuner card will need to accept four CAMs |
| [22:39:58] | wagnerrp: | CI only supports one stream per CAM |
| [22:40:14] | G64: | it has some MultiCAm mode they say that i only need 1 cam per tuner card |
| [22:41:00] | wagnerrp: | i was not aware CI had multi-stream capability |
| [22:41:11] | wagnerrp: | but i've got no direct experience with that, so i can't really argue |
| [22:41:50] | G64: | this is the one |
| [22:41:51] | G64: | http://shop.digital-devices.de/epages/6235716 . . . ducts/191203 |
| [22:42:45] | G64: | MTD = Multi Transponder Decrypting is a new technology that allows up to 4 channels TV Tuner with only one CAM (CAM manufacturer dependent) to decipher. You need 1 or 2 Cine TV cards only a CI interface. |
| [22:44:19] | wagnerrp: | so long as it uses the standard CI protocols and the decryption is all done prior to mythtv receiving the video, i suppose it should work |
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| [22:46:48] | G64: | ok |
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