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Sunday, February 17th, 2013, 00:03 UTC
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[00:57:24] quantum: Just compiled today's git. Any reason why when I start the frontend, it starts with the mythbuntu pinstripes, but then goes black? I can enter, enter, enter, enter, and start the first show, but no menus.
[00:57:36] quantum: Anyone else compiled today?
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[01:05:34] quantum: Alright!
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[01:05:58] [R]: lol
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[01:25:53] k-man: what was that project someone was working on taht was a usb controller power cycling circuit to get around difficulties of a tuner card taht would hang from time to time?
[01:26:26] [R]: Beirdo: made a dealy to power cycle the hdpvr
[01:26:29] [R]: is that what you are taling about?
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[01:26:45] k-man: ah yeah, that was it
[01:26:50] k-man: any idea of the url?
[01:27:16] k-man: found it
[01:27:18] k-man: thanks for the pointers
[01:27:36] [R]: i just tied a 5v relay to usb
[01:27:41] [R]: and my hdpvr turns off when my computer turns off
[01:28:44] k-man: [R], fair enough
[01:28:59] k-man: its not for me its for someone on #australia who has a similar problem but a different device
[01:29:16] k-man: i use HDHomeruns over here in .au which work flawlessly thank goodness
[01:37:00] wagnerrp: k-man: speaking of beirdo's "hdpvr killer"?
[01:38:49] k-man: wagnerrp, yeah
[01:39:22] k-man: just someone on ##australia was experiencing a similar issue with some usb device hanging, it made me think of that
[01:39:28] k-man: wanted to point him to the link
[01:45:39] wagnerrp: using sysfs to power off the bus wasn't an option?
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[01:52:51] G64: Hi everyone
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[01:53:49] G64: i just installed Mythbuntu on my system to check out its offerings but i have some trouble (Mythnoob) scanning channels
[01:54:02] G64: Is there some one awake that could assist me a little bit
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[02:16:53] tonsofpcs: I may need a new projector.... I was cleaning it with air and a big poof of flame appeared then disapparead and it smells like burning plasitc...
[02:16:59] Korny2: evening
[02:17:08] Korny2: You let the magic smoke out!
[02:17:15] tonsofpcs: no, no smoke
[02:17:16] tonsofpcs: just flame.
[02:17:32] Korny2: oh hmmm
[02:17:55] wagnerrp: i here any good british garage has some spare magic smoke
[02:18:07] wagnerrp: their wiring harnesses tend to leak the stuff out all the time
[02:18:32] tonsofpcs: it isn't actively on fire and there's no smoke so I'm not sure what exactly happened
[02:18:35] tonsofpcs: it's entirely possible that the "flame" I saw was a reflection off of a piece that I deflected inside and that the smell is the air from the can (the can has issues and is leaking after use....)
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[02:25:14] G64: Could someone help me checking if my DVB card is correctly recognised and why i can§t cnfigure it in mythtv-setup ?
[02:25:20] G64: I would be very thankful
[02:26:31] Korny2: tonsofpcs, I'm thinkg of replacing my amd 1055t with an ivy bridge 3220t and a 35 watt pentium and my idle will be LOWer then the 1055t at 90 watts at idle
[02:26:32] Korny2: ugg
[02:27:27] tonsofpcs: Korny2: I did that but a bit more drastically a few years ago... went from a P2 to a core2quad ;)
[02:27:54] Korny2: Well the ivy bridge processors use 15–20 watts at idle
[02:27:57] Korny2: including the mobo
[02:28:31] Korny2: I'm not looking forward to spliting my server up, but I've wanted to do unraid for a wihle
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[02:34:58] wagnerrp: why unraid?
[02:35:25] Korny2: Multiple sized drives
[02:35:42] Korny2: I do have a flexraid license as well I could use
[02:36:20] wagnerrp: i thought unraid was independent filesystems, with an additional parity disk
[02:36:55] Korny2: unraid takes any size disk and puts parity protection on it
[02:37:18] Korny2: Parity disk has to be the biggest disk in the system hwoever
[02:37:39] Korny2: so you can do 3 2tb HD's and 4 3tb HDs with a 3tb pariy
[02:37:59] Korny2: but data isn't stripped so you can take any drive out of the array and the data is still intact
[02:38:56] wagnerrp: meh
[02:39:11] wagnerrp: seems like it's the ideal application for someone who want's to put in no planning or forethought
[02:39:16] wagnerrp: *wants
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[02:40:05] [R]: wagnerrp: haha
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[02:40:30] Korny2: or reuse old drives :)
[02:40:44] wagnerrp: my old drives end up as recording scratch disks or backups
[02:41:03] Korny2: to each their own
[02:41:19] wagnerrp: they're just that... old... replaced because i don't trust them to be reliable any longer
[02:42:01] Korny2: my drives aren't that old
[02:42:07] Korny2: 2's and 3tb
[02:42:18] Korny2: my 1.5's I use for mythtv recordings
[02:43:02] wagnerrp: make one zvol of your 2TB drives, make one zvol of your 3TB drives, stuff them both into a shared zpool
[02:44:43] wagnerrp: or... toss each drive in as an independent zvol, and mark the zpool to keep two copies of each file
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[03:44:32] skd5aner: Hey, speaking of drives... wouldn't you want to try to avoid NCQ drives for mythtv recording drives?
[03:46:18] skd5aner: or, would it actually be the opposite and be beneficial?
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[03:54:39] Korny2: Whats a NCQ drive lol
[03:55:10] sheppard: native command queueing
[03:55:37] wagnerrp: it means your accesses can be rewritten by the drive to be more linear
[03:55:47] wagnerrp: reducing the amount of time spent seeking
[03:56:00] Korny2: I remeber reading about that somewhere, some SSD's don't support it
[03:56:05] Korny2: or am I thinking somethign else
[03:56:11] wagnerrp: SSDs don't need it
[03:56:27] wagnerrp: because they are not mechanical, so there is no seek latency
[03:56:40] Korny2: ah yes
[03:57:11] wagnerrp: SCSI drives had it first, and it was later added to the SATA spec
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[03:57:58] Korny2: I never really have IO issues with myth, even when 4–5 front ends and 3–4 recordings going on
[03:58:25] Korny2: but I have 4 seperate HD's also
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[07:57:35] k-man: wagnerrp, dunno, i'll suggest it to him
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[08:38:26] wagnerrp: ?
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[11:23:33] G64: Hi all
[11:24:20] G64: Is there anyone that could help/assist me in getting my Quad tuner DVB adapter working in MythTV ?
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[11:41:28] SteveGoodey: G64: Is it seen in dmesg?
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[12:23:52] G64: Hi steve
[12:24:00] G64: sorry, i missed your message
[12:24:26] G64: Yes i see it there only i can not exactly see if it detects the 4 tuners itself correctly
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[12:28:10] G64: i am trying to look it up now
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[12:30:40] SteveGoodey: G64: Anything in dmesg about loading firmware?
[12:30:45] G64: Hmm, yesterday it definatlt showed, but now i cant find it
[12:31:24] G64: i have been fiddling arround with firmware last night, maybe that has killed it now...
[12:31:25] G64: :(
[12:32:17] SteveGoodey: G64: What sort of tuner is it? USB, PCI, PCI-E?
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[12:34:43] G64: its a Digital Devices Cine C/T V6 Quad tuner PCIe
[12:36:58] G64: i completely shutdown the computer and rebooted
[12:37:01] G64: now its in dmesg
[12:37:39] G64: i wll make a screenshot from putty
[12:40:18] G64: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1579431/Mythbuntu.jpg
[12:40:27] G64: thats the output from dmesg
[12:41:25] G64: and this is the output from lspci -vvvnn
[12:41:26] G64: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1579431/Mythbuntu2.jpg
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[12:43:58] G64: Only thing is that in most guides the adapters should show in /dev/dvb/... but there i don§t see them
[12:44:06] G64: that folder doesnt exist
[12:44:44] G64: It does have a folder called /dev/ddbridge/card0
[12:44:54] G64: But there i don't see the 4 tuners
[12:49:38] SteveGoodey: G64: //www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg41734.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger. . . . sg41734.html any use?
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[12:55:39] G64: it might do :)
[12:55:54] G64: i'll try to do the things in the thread and see itf that works
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[15:22:04] lapion: When I archive or restore files from archive I get no log
[15:23:03] lapion: So I cannot see the progress, unless I look at the light of the device from wher I am restoring..
[15:23:49] SteveGoodey: Or check top for mytharchivehelper to finish.
[15:25:36] lapion: yes but normally a log file is created and shown in the log viewer
[15:25:53] lapion: how can I get this to work again
[15:26:48] lapion: Is there any way to recover all files in an archive? without having to enter each folder and manually selecting each ?
[15:27:01] SteveGoodey: Report it as a bug. I'm in the process of upgrading so haven't got got round to it yet.
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[16:04:33] TTilus: upgraded to 0.25 and scheduled recording is not working correctly
[16:05:12] TTilus: upcoming programs show up green in epg
[16:05:25] TTilus: like they would be recorded
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[16:05:51] TTilus: only they dont appear to media library
[16:06:29] TTilus: if i just plain hit "r" on an upcoming program on epg it gets recorded
[16:06:35] TTilus: whats going on here
[16:07:07] TTilus: dvb, two cards, live tv and recording playback work fine
[16:07:33] TTilus: s/recording playback/playing back recordings/
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[16:52:19] quantum: In mythfrontend, getting a black screen using opengl as painter.
[16:52:48] quantum: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt works. So apparently it's a problem with OpenGL. Nightly from yesterday.
[16:53:09] quantum: OpenGL ES libs not installed.
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[16:58:27] lapion: TTilus, are you sure you are looking in the correct p filter when you are looking in the Recordingslist ?
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[16:58:58] TTilus: lapion: looked with every filter
[16:59:30] TTilus: lapion: no pre-scheduled recordings have appeared since upgrade
[16:59:39] TTilus: lapion: any ideas how to debug this?
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[17:23:18] chubbard: Ran into a weird problem with my Happague DCR-2650. Does anyone have experience with these tuners?
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[17:33:48] chubbard: Is there a way to increase the logging verbosity of my Myth installation?
[17:38:56] lapion: TTilus, have you checked directory ownership/rights and diskspace ? ?
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[18:41:04] TTilus: lapion: 107G free
[18:42:52] TTilus: lapion: drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 57344 Feb 17 08:44 /var/storage/mythtv/recordings/
[18:43:38] TTilus: lapion: i doubt dir ownership is an issue because if i just plain hit "r" on an upcoming program on epg it gets recorded
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[18:45:46] lapion: TTilus, you should upgrade to 0.26... lots of problems have been fixed in 0.26.. it's currently the stable version
[18:45:54] lapion: 0.27 is the current unstable..
[18:49:38] TTilus: lapion: is this a know problem fixed in 0.26?
[18:50:34] TTilus: how does one debug broken scheduling in general?
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[19:06:30] lapion: Do not know TTilus , I just know that it's best to try the stable version when an older version is not working correctly, it solved most of my problems, up to being able to change channels on an analog card without needing to switch to my digital card as an intermediary
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[19:14:52] gpd: I can't seem to find a good way to stream 4OD on my mythbox.
[19:15:03] wagnerrp: 40D?
[19:15:14] gpd: UK channel 4... On Demand
[19:15:26] gpd: Like iPlayer from the BBC but different channel
[19:15:42] gpd: doesn't seem to be supported by MythNetVision
[19:15:45] wagnerrp: if it's flash, you can use mythnetvision and mythbrowser
[19:15:57] wagnerrp: it will work directly with an rss feed
[19:16:16] wagnerrp: but if there isn't one, it could take some effort writing a grabber
[19:16:18] gpd: ok – i'll look into it
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[19:40:39] G64: Hi guys
[19:41:10] G64: Has anyone ever had the problem that when you tried to scan channels it (immediatly) said: No channels
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[20:55:49] G64: It worked :D
[20:56:06] G64: I'm now watching Harry Potter (on TimeShift even)
[20:56:11] G64: :D
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[23:28:49] monkeypet69: damn ubuntu booted in 8 bpp on a mac mini
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[23:36:16] J-e-f-f-A: ooh, 256 colors! ;-)
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[23:40:08] [R]: so i rescanned my antenna and the channels that used to be on the edge now come in great and i solved a ton of recording conflicts, i'm quite content
[23:41:18] J-e-f-f-A: [R]: New Antenna, or just aimed better/relocated?  ;-)
[23:41:33] [R]: didnt touch it
[23:41:34] [R]: lol
[23:41:43] J-e-f-f-A: Heh. ;-)
[23:42:37] J-e-f-f-A: All of my OTA stations are within 2 degrees, so I just pointed my antenna that way – tuning with an ATSC tuner and LCD TV on the roof. ;-)
[23:42:51] [R]: all my otas come from the same mountain
[23:42:55] [R]: i never understood why they didnt all come in before
[23:43:52] jya_ (jya_!~jyavenard@mythtv/developer/jya) has quit (Quit: jya_)
[23:45:00] J-e-f-f-A: I gotta get around to upgrading my system and going to 0.26...
[23:46:01] [R]: yeah, 25 to 26 wasn't that painful for me
[23:47:29] J-e-f-f-A: Yeah, I just have a preference of installing the latest Fedora on a fresh HDD, and then installing Myth from scratch, restore my old DB, then let Myth upgrade the DB...
[23:48:05] J-e-f-f-A: Plus I've got a brandy-new Intel 520 Series SSD sitting here to do it. ;-) (120GB – current SSD is a 60GB OCZ Vertex III)
[23:49:56] monkeypet69: i had always did the upgrade path!
[23:51:12] J-e-f-f-A: I would just tackle it now, but I've been working with one of the MythTV Android Frontend, and should probably keep my system 'as is' until I get some more feedback from him as to whether the issue is with my DB or MAF... (I can't run MAF – doesn't show anything, and he's debugged an issue...)
[23:51:40] J-e-f-f-A: ... Has to do with channels from an old source that's not available anymore, from what I understand. MAF doesn't deal with them properly.
[23:52:38] J-e-f-f-A: monkeypet69: Hehehehe... I like to refresh the OS at the same time... Just my preference. ;-) And use a brandy-new drive every time, so I can always go back by swapping out the system drive (or changing the boot order)...
[23:54:26] J-e-f-f-A: Although, I guess I'm not that far behind now, I'm on FC17, and the current version is 18. ;-)
[23:54:47] monkeypet69: Something horrible and evil drives me to upgrade to the latest.
[23:54:59] monkeypet69: I think it is some sort of mental disorder.
[23:55:53] monkeypet69: video playback doesn't look good in 256 colors.
[23:55:56] monkeypet69: lol.
[23:56:19] J-e-f-f-A: monkeypet69: Hehehehe... I ran Trunk for a year or so, way-back-when, to get some Dish Network PVR-like features, like if you were using "Live TV" and decided to record the program, you could press "R" and it would record the whole program (or at least when you tuned the channel), and not just start from that time. ;-)  – Like I said, a LONG time ago. ;-)
[23:57:10] J-e-f-f-A: monkeypet69: Ooh, try the terminal video driver [forget the name] – awesome b&W graphics using characters in a terminal! ;-)
[23:58:09] monkeypet69: back a long time ago I used to edit xfree86.conf files, now I have forgotten all that stuff.
[23:59:02] J-e-f-f-A: Heh, I've only been running Linux since getting involved with MythTV – back in mid-2004. ;-) I am by no means an expert, but certainly not a N00B anymore. ;-)

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