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| [00:35:50] | tez_: | Just d/l mythvidexport.py ... thanks! |
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| [01:37:45] | roe_: | I setup a recording schedule however all of the shows are showing up as 'disabled'? |
| [01:42:05] | wagnerrp: | perhaps your backend is not configured in a manner that may allow recording? |
| [01:42:20] | wagnerrp: | tuners are configured improperly? storage has no write access? |
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| [01:58:53] | Korny2: | evening all |
| [01:59:08] | mpet69: | I love my mini Mac osx frontend! |
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| [02:00:34] | mpet69: | debating to triple boot it windows Linux osx |
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| [02:00:45] | [R]: | mpet69: XTREME |
| [02:01:11] | mpet69: | however no media drive! |
| [02:01:22] | Korny2: | What do you need a media drive for? |
| [02:01:35] | mpet69: | install the os. |
| [02:01:47] | Korny2: | usb thumbdrive is all I use anymore |
| [02:01:48] | Korny2: | 8 gig |
| [02:03:32] | mpet69: | apple tax sucks but they make great hardware. |
| [02:03:46] | roe_: | wagnerrp: any suggestions on how to figure out? |
| [02:04:10] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs |
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| [02:54:33] | Korny2: | Is there any way to force a video refresh via ssh? |
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| [03:21:41] | Korny2: | x264 at low bit rates really impresses me |
| [03:22:07] | Korny2: | I'm doing a 200 kbit video and 64 bit audio to my phone from my server, it doesn't look half bad at 4.3" lol |
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| [03:40:08] | wagnerrp: | 64-bit audio? i've never actually seen anything better than 24-bit |
| [03:43:21] | Korny2: | kbit sorry lol |
| [03:43:43] | YMMS: | Maybe Pono will be 64 bit ? |
| [03:44:30] | YMMS: | Maybe there can be a myth-Neil_Young plugin that can play it |
| [03:45:47] | YMMS: | ./configure --enable neil_young in the mythplugins directory will build it |
| [03:45:52] | Korny2: | my mythmusic on one my boxes went goofy :( |
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| [03:49:54] | wagnerrp: | what are you talking about? |
| [03:50:27] | YMMS: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pono_%28audio_format%29 |
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| [03:50:46] | wagnerrp: | we don't need another damned audio format |
| [03:50:58] | YMMS: | Oh I think it will be amazing |
| [03:51:16] | wagnerrp: | unless someone wants to try their hand at a DWT based codec instead of a based DCT one |
| [03:51:24] | YMMS: | After reading about it, it sounds exciting, just theres not really any details I can find about it |
| [03:51:47] | YMMS: | other than people saying how great it sounds |
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| [03:52:18] | wagnerrp: | wave sounds great, flac sounds great, alac sounds great |
| [03:52:26] | YMMS: | true |
| [03:52:26] | wagnerrp: | pono... meh... |
| [03:52:43] | YMMS: | but imagine even better sound |
| [03:53:08] | wagnerrp: | they're all lossless formats, you can't get "better sound" than them |
| [03:53:11] | Korny2: | how can it sound better then wave? |
| [03:53:37] | YMMS: | I think mainly by higher sample rate |
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| [03:54:09] | wagnerrp: | you can run wave at whatever sample rate you want |
| [03:54:20] | wagnerrp: | and whatever bit accuracy you want |
| [03:54:41] | wagnerrp: | but it's all for naught if we keep overcompressing audio in the studio |
| [03:55:40] | YMMS: | I dont know, but I think a new format to buy music in that is actually improving sound quality is a good thing |
| [03:56:10] | wagnerrp: | i do |
| [03:56:15] | wagnerrp: | we have plenty of perfectly good formats |
| [03:56:19] | YMMS: | like music now is no different in delivery content than 30 years ago |
| [03:56:22] | wagnerrp: | what we need is better masters |
| [03:56:57] | YMMS: | yeah but a 4:3 CRT tele picking up analogue reception was a perfectly good tele |
| [03:57:25] | YMMS: | i agree we need better masters, but perhaps there are a lot of them that are a lot better than the cd's made from them |
| [03:57:50] | YMMS: | my 1993 nissan is a perfectly good car |
| [03:59:21] | YMMS: | I wonder if Neil Young actually works in a lab making pono |
| [03:59:46] | YMMS: | on the wikipedia page it is described as "currently under development by Neil Young." |
| [04:00:03] | wagnerrp: | i sure hope not, very few people like geriatric pono |
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| [04:00:35] | YMMS: | You would use C for something like an audio codec id imagine |
| [04:00:45] | YMMS: | maybe there are really long winded comments in his code |
| [04:00:50] | wagnerrp: | actually, you use a lot of hand coded ASM |
| [04:01:03] | YMMS: | you proably do too |
| [04:01:24] | YMMS: | I can imagine reading neils young source code though |
| [04:01:34] | wagnerrp: | take for instance phonographs |
| [04:01:38] | YMMS: | and seeing all these rants about george bush in the comments |
| [04:01:47] | wagnerrp: | people claim its a "fuller" and "richer" sound than digital CDs |
| [04:02:13] | YMMS: | i agree that thats not really true wagnerrp , as its the source that matters |
| [04:02:31] | wagnerrp: | where CDs have plenty enough sampling rate to properly reproduce the sound they are trying to digitize, all the way up to around 20kHz, assuming proper filtering |
| [04:02:32] | YMMS: | a analog rip of vinyl I find has that warm sound |
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| [04:03:00] | wagnerrp: | and are usually good for around 90dB of dynamic range, compared to around 55–60dB on a good record and pickup |
| [04:03:16] | wagnerrp: | by all rights, CDs are far better than phonographs |
| [04:03:25] | wagnerrp: | but they sound like crap because the masters are overamped crap |
| [04:03:44] | YMMS: | Old CD's sound better to me, |
| [04:03:47] | wagnerrp: | all that dynamic range means nothing when you only use the top 20dB |
| [04:03:54] | YMMS: | newish ones are too loud |
| [04:04:04] | YMMS: | is that what you mean by overamped ? |
| [04:04:17] | wagnerrp: | yes, dynamic range compression |
| [04:04:27] | YMMS: | yeah there all full volume |
| [04:04:29] | wagnerrp: | the lows are amped, and the highs are muddled |
| [04:04:31] | YMMS: | its rather annoying |
| [04:04:36] | wagnerrp: | so everything is always at the same volume |
| [04:04:41] | YMMS: | especially when you have old cd's as well |
| [04:04:44] | wagnerrp: | because everyone wants to be the loudest band |
| [04:04:49] | YMMS: | i play something from the 80.s say the smiths |
| [04:05:04] | YMMS: | and its so much easier to listen to and equalize |
| [04:05:13] | wagnerrp: | that's not to say DRC is necessarily bad, it's just abused to excess |
| [04:05:27] | YMMS: | the loudest, is that so when they are played on radio they stand out ? |
| [04:05:52] | wagnerrp: | pretty much |
| [04:06:23] | YMMS: | oh easy then, audio engineers just can stop doing it to nice music and just do it to top 40 pap |
| [04:06:42] | wagnerrp: | no, audio engineers should stop doing it period |
| [04:06:57] | YMMS: | probably true |
| [04:06:58] | wagnerrp: | and producers that demand it need to be tarred and feathered |
| [04:07:28] | YMMS: | hey anyway, i actually came here to see if anyone can help with an issue I am having with using a C-Band LNB with mythtv |
| [04:07:44] | wagnerrp: | i doubt many people use those |
| [04:07:58] | YMMS: | anyone knowledgeable about mythconverg and perhaps the code base that decides how to address the LNB |
| [04:08:10] | YMMS: | yeah i figured, theres not much info I can find |
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| [04:08:47] | YMMS: | anyone in here a mythtv developer ? |
| [04:09:47] | wagnerrp: | just about everyone with voice |
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| [04:09:54] | YMMS: | ahh |
| [04:10:05] | YMMS: | your one wagnerrp ? |
| [04:10:09] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [04:11:08] | YMMS: | i just have a question then, according to the manufacturer of my tuner (TBS) they say that their tuner works with the dvb api and that if I can use it with other apps such as szap and mplayer but not with mythtv that its a mythtv issue |
| [04:11:44] | wagnerrp: | can't really say anything on that, i don't do anything with the tuner code |
| [04:11:47] | YMMS: | I am wondering if you could give me some hints as to what parts of mythtv code use the dvb api and where I should start to look myself |
| [04:11:55] | YMMS: | ok |
| [04:12:05] | wagnerrp: | there are admittedly times that mythtv has used the DVB API improperly |
| [04:12:45] | wagnerrp: | but just as often mythtv uses uncommon but strictly compliant aspects of the API that some drivers don't bother implementing |
| [04:13:10] | wagnerrp: | which causes problems for mythtv when something that should work, doesn't work, but doesn't affect most other applications that don't use it |
| [04:13:32] | YMMS: | yeah |
| [04:13:49] | YMMS: | Well I will keep coming back and asking now and then |
| [04:14:04] | wagnerrp: | !seen devinheitmueller |
| [04:14:04] | MythLogBot: | devinheitmueller is here and has been idle for 14 hours 16 minutes 31 seconds |
| [04:14:14] | ** wagnerrp pokes devinheitmueller ** | |
| [04:14:19] | devinheitmueller: | Hi wagnerrp |
| [04:14:21] | wagnerrp: | he might know |
| [04:14:34] | YMMS: | thanks |
| [04:15:08] | wagnerrp: | he's not a mythtv developer, but he's a very active linuxtv driver developer |
| [04:15:24] | devinheitmueller: | It's a reasonable assumption to state that if other apps but MythTV doesn't then it's MythTV's fault. Except that assumption is wrong. |
| [04:15:36] | YMMS: | hahaha ok |
| [04:15:40] | YMMS: | i wont assume |
| [04:16:22] | devinheitmueller: | For example, the recent race condition in the DVB frontend code would only get hit on MythTV because MythTV would quickly close and then reopen the frontend. It was clearly a kernel bug, but just dumb luck that none of the other apps did that. |
| [04:16:27] | YMMS: | There is another user that is using the same brand of DVB-S tuner and experienceing the same issue as me |
| [04:16:31] | YMMS: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/525511 |
| [04:16:42] | devinheitmueller: | (since MythTV and szap don't ever actually cycle through channels) |
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| [04:17:00] | wagnerrp: | potentially a poor design choice on mythtv's part, but something that should work regardless |
| [04:17:40] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, mythtv was making a completely reasonable assumption. It's just dumb luck it exposed a race condition in the kernel. |
| [04:17:46] | YMMS: | devinheitmueller, I can use a ku band lnb via mythtv just not cband |
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| [04:18:23] | devinheitmueller: | TBS has completely proprietary drivers, right? If so, then it's entirely *their* problem. |
| [04:18:32] | YMMS: | fair enough |
| [04:18:37] | YMMS: | yeah I can hassle them |
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| [04:18:42] | wagnerrp: | is it a scanning problem? or a capture problem? |
| [04:18:44] | devinheitmueller: | That's why you gave them money – because they supported Linux. So tell them to support you. |
| [04:18:48] | YMMS: | they are proprietary yes |
| [04:18:50] | YMMS: | capture |
| [04:18:55] | YMMS: | scanning works |
| [04:19:01] | wagnerrp: | so scanning worked fine? not a channel table issue then... |
| [04:19:13] | wagnerrp: | could you post some backend logs? |
| [04:19:30] | YMMS: | I can |
| [04:19:39] | YMMS: | Pastebin right ? |
| [04:20:09] | wagnerrp: | pastebin works |
| [04:20:15] | YMMS: | ok cool |
| [04:20:23] | YMMS: | have them soon |
| [04:20:24] | Korny2: | Ok I have a stupid question, I'm moving and all my channels will be different numbers.... will it affect my current recordings? |
| [04:20:37] | ** wagnerrp should get mythtv's pastebin running this weekend ** | |
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| [04:38:51] | YMMS: | hi wagnerrp and devinheitmueller a log is at http://pastebin.com/dgDCuAxj |
| [04:39:22] | YMMS: | can you let me know if you would like me to make more logs more or less verbose |
| [04:40:32] | wagnerrp: | i could use some monitors that properly lined up when i stretched the window across them... :P |
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| [04:42:23] | wagnerrp: | SYSTEM_EVENT SCREEN_TYPE? when did that one get added? |
| [04:44:04] | YMMS: | oh sorry, I am not on 0.26 |
| [04:44:30] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't matter... just an event i've never seen before |
| [04:44:41] | wagnerrp: | found it odd to see it getting flooded on frontend connection |
| [04:45:08] | YMMS: | could it be my laptop running 2 screens causing it ? |
| [04:45:29] | wagnerrp: | no, there's nothing wrong with it. i've just never seen that event before |
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| [04:48:50] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [04:49:01] | wagnerrp: | did you ever set an initial channel after scanning? |
| [04:49:10] | wagnerrp: | for the input connection |
| [04:49:46] | YMMS: | yes I did, but I will try that again now to make sure |
| [04:49:52] | YMMS: | I readded the card to make the log |
| [04:50:04] | YMMS: | I will do again now and make sure |
| [04:50:11] | wagnerrp: | this concerns me... "SELECT chanid FROM channel, cardinput WHERE cardinput.sourceid = channel.sourceid AND channel.channum = '' AND cardinput.cardid = '5'" |
| [04:50:32] | wagnerrp: | as does this... "TVRec[5]: Failed to set channel to 1. Reverting to kState_None" |
| [04:51:18] | wagnerrp: | this one too... "SELECT mplexid FROM channel WHERE chanid = '4294967295'" |
| [04:51:36] | YMMS: | I will try that right now, previously I went as far as purging mythconverg and deleteing all inputs and tuners and starting with only the dvb-s tuner |
| [04:51:52] | wagnerrp: | actually, that's 2^32–1 |
| [04:51:58] | wagnerrp: | something wonky going on there |
| [04:52:14] | YMMS: | wagnerrp, the input was set to start on channel 1 |
| [04:52:53] | YMMS: | will I make a better log file on a clean db which has not had other tuners configured ? |
| [04:53:04] | wagnerrp: | no, that's fine |
| [04:53:17] | wagnerrp: | i'm just not really familiar with that code, so i'm not certain what i'm looking at |
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| [05:29:55] | YMMS: | thanks for looking wagnerrp , does seem like an odd value for chanid |
| [05:30:33] | YMMS: | I wonder if changing chanid value to something more correct like 1 in mysql would be a good idea |
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| [05:33:01] | YMMS: | all that is in my channel table is a channel 1 with chanid of 1001 |
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| [08:04:09] | Korny2: | Anyone awake? |
| [08:04:23] | Korny2: | Debating betwen an i3 and a pentium for mythtv backend |
| [08:06:56] | sheppard: | what generation is the pentium |
| [08:07:40] | Korny2: | Intel Pentium G630T Sandy Bridge 2.3GHz LGA 1155 |
| [08:07:48] | sheppard: | vs what i3 |
| [08:08:20] | Korny2: | 2120t or 3220t |
| [08:08:33] | Korny2: | 3220t is ivy bridge |
| [08:09:34] | sheppard: | http://ark.intel.com/compare/65694,53427,53484 |
| [08:09:59] | Korny2: | I'm more debating if I really need the i3's power with mytv |
| [08:11:01] | sheppard: | I've been really happy with all the ivy bridge stuff I've been using |
| [08:11:13] | sheppard: | and if you plan on doing any transcoding/commercial editing/etc. I'd say go ivy bridge |
| [08:11:22] | Korny2: | Right now I'm overkill using an amd 1055 6 core |
| [08:11:36] | Korny2: | Well I was going to keep the 6 core in my desktop for transcoding |
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| [08:12:06] | sheppard: | also huge power savings with the ivy bridge |
| [08:12:17] | Korny2: | over sandy? |
| [08:12:20] | sheppard: | 35W vs 125w |
| [08:12:25] | sheppard: | naw, over that amd chip |
| [08:12:25] | Korny2: | oh yeah I know that :) |
| [08:12:34] | Korny2: | Thats why I'm migrating |
| [08:12:37] | sheppard: | seems mostly the same between sandy and ivy |
| [08:12:51] | Korny2: | Desktop can be shut down when not in use, myth backend not so much |
| [08:13:01] | sheppard: | but ivy is more efficient per clock, same power with an extra 200mhz |
| [08:13:19] | Korny2: | I'm also building a unraid box |
| [08:13:42] | sheppard: | whats the end system cost difference |
| [08:13:47] | sheppard: | between the three |
| [08:14:02] | Korny2: | the i3's are the same price |
| [08:14:10] | Korny2: | the pentium is 50 dollars less |
| [08:14:19] | Korny2: | I was going ot use it for the unraid box |
| [08:14:38] | sheppard: | go ivy bridge, get ecc ram, make your data that much safer |
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| [08:18:28] | Korny2: | The only reason I'm even thinking i3 for mythtv is I'm also going to run emit on it |
| [08:19:12] | sheppard: | I've been using plex |
| [08:19:21] | sheppard: | and yeah, any kinda transcoding you want some cpu power and threads |
| [08:19:33] | sheppard: | go ivy bridge, so you don't end up having to upgrade hardware later |
| [08:19:35] | Korny2: | I have a nice passively cooled gt520 for my server, I'm going to use my new backend as a front end as well |
| [08:21:09] | Korny2: | I hope xmbc's mythtv plug in matures more |
| [08:21:37] | Korny2: | it did something funky to my database that made accessing recording from my frontends stupid slow |
| [08:22:04] | croppa is now known as croppa_ | |
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| [08:24:18] | Korny2: | now the challange to find a 4HD micro case that looks decent |
| [08:24:25] | sheppard: | sure it's not a dns lookup issue? |
| [08:25:38] | Korny2: | yes |
| [08:26:01] | Korny2: | it was when browsing my recordings from the frontend |
| [08:26:08] | Korny2: | A mythtv frontend |
| [08:26:21] | Korny2: | I rebooted the machine seemed to fix most of it |
| [08:32:12] | Korny2: | Bah |
| [08:32:22] | Korny2: | I wish they made a cheap version of this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112378 |
| [08:34:24] | Korny2: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119261 that looks nice |
| [08:41:02] | sheppard: | I got a silverstone one recently |
| [08:41:08] | sheppard: | it looks liek a receiver, it's nice |
| [08:44:40] | Korny2: | Does it fit 4 HD's? |
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| [08:48:06] | sheppard: | lemmie check |
| [08:48:54] | sheppard: | http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX39141 |
| [08:48:57] | sheppard: | I think it was that one |
| [08:49:05] | sheppard: | which claims to hold 8 drives |
| [08:50:03] | Korny2: | ohhh that looks nice |
| [08:50:16] | Korny2: | spendy though |
| [08:50:24] | sheppard: | little bit =\ |
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| [08:50:38] | sheppard: | I had to unplug the rear fans, otherwise it was too noisy |
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| [08:52:19] | Korny2: | I always replace case fans with aftermarket ones |
| [08:52:23] | Korny2: | ALWAYS |
| [08:52:29] | sheppard: | http://i.imgur.com/8aX6J2A.jpg |
| [08:52:35] | sheppard: | was kinda hoping with a spendy case I wouldn't have to |
| [08:53:22] | Korny2: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811204037 |
| [08:53:26] | Korny2: | thats not bad |
| [08:54:42] | sheppard: | should work |
| [08:54:51] | Korny2: | or even smaller http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811204035 |
| [08:55:03] | Korny2: | although 60 mm fans bother me |
| [08:55:26] | sheppard: | does the smaller one fit a standard psu? |
| [08:56:13] | Korny2: | I would think so, it supports atx mobo's |
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| [09:06:48] | Korny2: | recommended power supply so far on the website I'm on 133 watts lol |
| [09:09:09] | Korny2: | hmm 193 wtih the 4 hd's |
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| [11:23:44] | antgel: | hi people. i am about to do a channel scan on my parents dvb-t and dvb-s backends (freeview / freesat in the uk). they are annoyed that myth doesn't automatically update like a proprietary set-top box |
| [11:24:18] | antgel: | anything i should watch out for? will it overwrite existing data, which has been painstakingly built e.g. which channels to hide in the channel list? |
| [11:24:47] | antgel: | do i just do a full channel scan? basically i'm looking for any gotchas and / or tips when doing this. i guess all dvb users must do it from time to time |
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| [14:53:08] | smoothifier: | hi there, i'm having trouble with the mythconverg_backup.pl script. not big trouble, but if (!defined(@array)) is deprecated and i'm not sure how to code around it as perl isn't my language |
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| [14:55:57] | smoothifier: | would you replace that with if !(@array) ? |
| [15:02:58] | smoothifier: | if (!defined(@allowed_paths)) on line 1070 becomes unless(@allowed_paths) ? |
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| [16:43:39] | antgel: | hi people. i am about to do a channel scan on my parents dvb-t and dvb-s backends (freeview / freesat in the uk). they are annoyed that myth doesn't automatically update like a proprietary set-top box. anything i should watch out for? |
| [16:43:50] | antgel: | will it overwrite existing data, which has been painstakingly built e.g. which channels to hide in the channel list? do i just do a full channel scan? |
| [16:43:58] | antgel: | basically i'm looking for any gotchas and / or tips when doing this. i guess all dvb users must do it from time to time |
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| [18:36:38] | andrewju: | Hi All, Could someone please assist to troubleshoot mythfrontend getting stuck at start (only theme background is visible)? |
| [18:39:35] | smoothifier: | hey andrewju :) i'll try to assist |
| [18:39:58] | smoothifier: | can you run mythfrontend from a terminal window so you can see the output? |
| [18:40:45] | smoothifier: | as in: andrew$ mythfrontend |
| [18:41:10] | andrewju: | Sure, I also captured the log with '-v all'. I see no obvious errors there... |
| [18:41:35] | smoothifier: | hmm i've been stuck there myself but usually i see something in the log |
| [18:42:10] | andrewju: | Can you please have a fresh look? The log is here: http://www.a-j.ru/mythtv/mythfrontend.log |
| [18:43:29] | andrewju: | The strangest thing is that it used to work for a long-long time. And I recall no recent changes that could have lead to this kind of issue... |
| [18:43:45] | smoothifier: | sorry i crashed for a sec |
| [18:43:52] | smoothifier: | looking |
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| [18:44:50] | andrewju: | Thanks! :) |
| [18:44:56] | smoothifier: | ok it looks to me that you're stuck in some kind of loop in referencecouter.cpp lines 114 and 145 |
| [18:45:16] | smoothifier: | i guess it's a question of finding that source file and taking a look |
| [18:45:33] | smoothifier: | but i'm not sure exactly or if i'm wrong |
| [18:46:18] | smoothifier: | it seems to be at two different memory addresses |
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| [18:46:32] | smoothifier: | you can see them repeeating in your log |
| [18:47:31] | smoothifier: | i think i'm out of my league on this one. you probably have to wait for a dev to show up |
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| [18:48:52] | andrewju: | Ah, at least now I know that the 114 and 145 are the lines in the .cpp file! I'll try to see what they do... It's definitely out of my league, too... :) |
| [18:48:58] | andrewju: | Thanks a lot! :) |
| [18:49:57] | smoothifier: | yeah no worries |
| [18:50:24] | smoothifier: | if you're going to do that right now, paste them so i can look but i might not be able to help you any further |
| [18:51:21] | smoothifier: | heck i have a free minute or two, i'll try to pull those up. is this for 0.26? |
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| [18:52:20] | andrewju: | Yes, this is 0.26, but not the latest one... |
| [18:52:28] | andrewju: | This is line 114: .arg(reinterpret_cast<intptr_t>(this),0,16).arg(val)); |
| [18:52:46] | andrewju: | And this is line 145: .arg(reinterpret_cast<intptr_t>(this),0,16).arg(val)); |
| [18:53:10] | andrewju: | This is 0.26 fetched in the end of last year... |
| [18:53:24] | smoothifier: | ok so i guess i need to ssee the whole thing |
| [18:53:32] | smoothifier: | can you put it in pastebin.com? |
| [18:53:46] | andrewju: | I guess so, too... I can put the source file for you somewhere... |
| [18:53:54] | andrewju: | Yep, just a sec. :) |
| [18:54:02] | smoothifier: | sure thing... |
| [18:54:47] | smoothifier: | ok wait i might have the file here... the lines match up |
| [18:55:35] | andrewju: | Here it is: http://pastebin.com/NCrVccHB |
| [18:57:15] | smoothifier: | ok i guess i can't help you andrewju :( i'm not sure what referencecounter does, haha |
| [18:57:39] | smoothifier: | how long has this been happening? |
| [18:58:27] | andrewju: | Started today or maybe a couple of days ago... It was working fine all the time since last year... |
| [18:58:33] | smoothifier: | it looks like the current source of this file is pretty close to the original source. i haven't run a diff on it but i have a feeling it's the same thing |
| [18:58:51] | smoothifier: | hmm that's frustrating |
| [18:59:02] | andrewju: | aha... :-( |
| [18:59:08] | smoothifier: | is there disk access or does everything just freeze? |
| [18:59:45] | andrewju: | The system works fine, just the frontend freezes. |
| [19:00:24] | andrewju: | Strangest thing us that remote frontend on a very similar machine still works fine at the same time. |
| [19:01:08] | smoothifier: | ok i'm not sure if this would make a difference, and it very well might not, but could you recompile it again? libraries have been updated, not sure if some runtime thing changed? just grasping at straws |
| [19:01:29] | smoothifier: | maybe an update changed a core library? |
| [19:01:54] | smoothifier: | that may not make a difference |
| [19:02:56] | smoothifier: | actually i don't think that would do it but i'm not positive |
| [19:03:51] | andrewju: | Ummm, I'll try it now, thanks! :) |
| [19:04:12] | smoothifier: | worth a shot anyway, if it doesn't take 5 hours or something :) |
| [19:04:54] | andrewju: | Oh, a dummie question: do I need to do 'make clean' or anything like that before I recompile? |
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| [19:09:16] | smoothifier: | yes, definitely a make clean |
| [19:09:28] | smoothifier: | i haven't compiled mythtv from source |
| [19:10:18] | smoothifier: | i think then you can do a 'make' then 'make install', but that's just standard compiling. you'd have to look at the README or INSTALL documents to be sure |
| [19:10:48] | smoothifier: | if you don't do a make clean, you leave behind all of the old object files and wind up using them all over again. :) |
| [19:10:54] | andrewju: | Yeah, that's how I originally compiled it. So, I'm now recompiling ... it will take a few minutes. |
| [19:11:29] | smoothifier: | all right, well i can give you moral support if nothing else. :) i'm working on something as well. |
| [19:12:09] | andrewju: | :-) Can I support you with anything? |
| [19:20:47] | andrewju: | Ok, done. installing... |
| [19:21:51] | andrewju: | nope... same thing... :-( |
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| [19:35:12] | natanojl_: | andrewju: You might want to get a backtrace, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Getting_a_Backtrace . Then we might see if some thread is stuck somewhere |
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| [19:44:08] | andrewju: | natanojl_: ok, preparing to do the backtrace now... |
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| [20:00:01] | andrewju: | notanojl_: It seems that mythfrontend is not running from within gdb. Am I doing something wrong, or is it expected? Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/jXu9hzwb |
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| [20:06:04] | smoothifier: | in mythconverg_backup.pl, i'm getting an error about a function call being deprecated. would if (!defined(@allowed_paths)) on line 1070 translate to unless(@allowed_paths) ? |
| [20:06:18] | Igramul: | hi, is there any way to define a preference for recordings, e.g. to prefer the first broadcast over the late-night broadcast on the same day? |
| [20:06:30] | Igramul: | The latter are very unrelieable in the EPG. |
| [20:07:23] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will always record the first showing by default, unless pre-empted by a higher priority recording at the same time needing the same tuner |
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| [20:08:05] | natanojl_: | andrewju: I'd guess you had an existing gdbcommands file that uses -l to specify the logfile. That option has been removed as you can read |
| [20:10:11] | andrewju: | natanojl_: ah, I just copy-pasted it from the docs... fixed, making an output now... |
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| [20:12:18] | andrewju: | Ugh, how do I properly capture the output of gdb? |
| [20:12:28] | antgel: | paging anybody who knows about channel scanner: |
| [20:13:41] | antgel: | i've just re-scanned my existing dvb transports, and my channel list is looking like a bit of a mess. can somebody explain to me: 1) what does it mean if channels appear in the list with an underscore before channel number e.g. _7? 2) what does it mean if previous channels are still in the list without numbers (but with xmltvids)? |
| [20:13:47] | antgel: | i will try to paste a screenshot |
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| [20:17:14] | natanojl_: | andrewju: The output will go to gdb.txt if you used the commands on the wiki |
| [20:18:02] | antgel: | take a look at http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9647/bbc4.png. prior to my re-scan, both my sources (1/2) broadcast BBC FOUR, hence two lines in the channel list. i now have two lines with xmltv ids (presumably the two from before), and two new ones. what is going on here? |
| [20:21:02] | andrewju: | I thought the gdb.txt isn't full... I get much more info on the screen than in gdb.txt... |
| [20:21:13] | andrewju: | Here is what I get on the screen: http://pastebin.com/V2jyBRfd |
| [20:23:05] | andrewju: | and this is what I get in the gdb.txt: http://pastebin.com/fdLe3x5R |
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| [20:25:30] | natanojl_: | andrewju: "QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Failed." is something output by Qt and isn't captured by gdb. Try hitting ctrl-c and see if you get something more in gdb.txt |
| [20:29:01] | andrewju: | natanojl_: Ok, did it. Does this contain the necessary info? http://pastebin.com/SfbxKJ4T |
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| [20:36:28] | natanojl_: | andrewju: That looks right, but I don't think it useful in this case. OpenGL seems to be in a bad state which is why you get "QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Failed." |
| [20:38:27] | andrewju: | Does it mean an issue with my video driver? In fact, I didn't touch that part for months... it should have just worked. Of course, I could assume a hardware issue, but there are no visible video glitches so far... |
| [20:39:31] | natanojl_: | You can try mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt and see if that works |
| [20:40:53] | andrewju: | Hugh! It helps! wow... |
| [20:42:39] | smoothifier: | should i file a bug report about mythconverg_backup.pl? |
| [20:43:00] | smoothifier: | i think it's my new version of perl that doesn't like that one call |
| [20:43:19] | andrewju: | natanojl_: I don't even know what to think... does it look like a hardware issue? |
| [20:45:40] | smoothifier: | can you run the opengl screensavers? |
| [20:45:49] | smoothifier: | just a thought |
| [20:48:30] | andrewju: | I believe I never ran a screensaver on Linux except for the default ones coming with my distribution. I usually disable them as soon as I install a new system. :) Will need to find one in the menus... |
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| [20:51:04] | smoothifier: | yeah, i never do either. it could be that you'd have to install the opengl ones |
| [20:51:26] | smoothifier: | there is probably an opengl test. i seem to recall one |
| [20:51:36] | andrewju: | If I remember correctly, there should be something like glxgear |
| [20:51:42] | smoothifier: | yep |
| [20:51:44] | smoothifier: | that's it |
| [20:53:45] | andrewju: | Hmm, it doesn't start. I get the same error as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1866949 |
| [20:54:11] | andrewju: | Perhaps, I need to try and reinstall my NVidia driver... |
| [20:54:38] | smoothifier: | weird |
| [20:54:45] | smoothifier: | since you haven't changed it |
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| [20:55:10] | smoothifier: | but yeah, what the heck, i'd do that for sure |
| [20:56:58] | natanojl_: | andrewju: The OpenGL vendor/renderer/version strings in your log are empty so there seems to be something wrong with your driver |
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| [21:12:12] | andrewju: | natanojl_, smoothifier: you're absolutely right! Reinstalling the NVidia driver fixed that issue! mythfrontend is back! woooohooo! :) Thanks a lot!!! |
| [21:13:30] | smoothifier: | i'm afraid i can't take the credit, but congratulations! hehe nothing like stomping a good bug |
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| [21:16:20] | andrewju: | smoothifier: you helped a lot with the general troubleshootimg, too! :) Thank you! |
| [21:16:38] | natanojl_: | andrewju: You're welcome :) |
| [21:16:54] | andrewju: | Thanks again!!! :) |
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| [21:20:55] | smoothifier: | i felt the same way yesterday when i finally figured out overscan. |
| [21:21:11] | smoothifier: | it's on the wiki now |
| [21:21:58] | smoothifier: | nvidia changed a few things with the new drivers and you can really dial it in |
| [21:22:32] | smoothifier: | my tv is old and not that great. i had to chop off some serious pixels |
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| [21:23:50] | wagnerrp: | you could do that internally to mythtv before |
| [21:24:14] | smoothifier: | i could never get it to work |
| [21:24:27] | smoothifier: | my old settings didn't work after this upgrade |
| [21:25:06] | smoothifier: | i have a feeling it's because of my low quality television |
| [21:25:34] | smoothifier: | anyway, the nvidia settings in xorg.conf saved me |
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| [21:25:56] | smoothifier: | before i could use the mythtv overscan |
| [21:26:09] | smoothifier: | something is different with this new fedora |
| [21:27:51] | smoothifier: | i can't wait to get a regular hdtv. this crt type of tv bends the picture |
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| [21:36:06] | Deanis: | Hi.. Need some help please, thanks. MythMusic has encountered the following error No decoder for this format when playing MP3 |
| [21:37:00] | Deanis: | it's only with some. |
| [21:38:33] | Deanis: | I think it know what's going on. There are duplicate phantom per song. Looking for way to rescan |
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| [21:54:54] | wagnerrp: | smoothifier: are you hambone? |
| [21:55:33] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, i was thinking of Lozzo |
| [21:55:48] | wagnerrp: | was going to say you already had another account on the wiki from years back |
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| [22:01:29] | smoothifier: | wagnerrp: yes, that's me. i had a few fixes on the first article, haha |
| [22:01:55] | wagnerrp: | don't mind me.. got mixed up on users |
| [22:02:21] | smoothifier: | i never really had anything to add until i did this upgrade yesterday |
| [22:02:33] | smoothifier: | then i got stuck a few times |
| [22:03:11] | smoothifier: | i have a few nicknames just to keep things interesting |
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| [22:37:11] | entropy_number_9: | I have been trying to edit channel info with the frontend channel editor. After editing the info with the proper XMLTV ID, exiting live TV, and running mythfilldatabase, I do not get updated guide information on the edited channels. Am I missing a step? |
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