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| [00:40:58] | k-man: | i upgraded mythtv the other day, to the latest fixes and now airplay is not working |
| [00:41:11] | k-man: | is there any current known issue with airplay? |
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| [00:44:01] | tonsofpcs: | what is airplay? |
| [00:44:17] | wagnerrp: | apple's video push protocol |
| [00:45:53] | tonsofpcs: | oh |
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| [00:55:11] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way to play the current livetv file over the network via http? |
| [00:55:42] | tonsofpcs: | there's a channel I don't get on my bedroom TV but do on my HDHRs but I don't want to screw with the HDHRs for fear of confusing mythbackend |
| [01:03:13] | tonsofpcs: | hmm... speaking of which, anyone else seeing issues with Fox? |
| [01:03:58] | [R]: | you do realie that is ther broadest and most vague questino you could ever ask? |
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| [01:07:44] | Seeker`: | anyone else seeing a problem with some stuff? |
| [01:07:45] | Seeker`: | :P |
| [01:09:30] | tonsofpcs: | [R]: no, it isn't. Local Fox is grabbing the SD network feed over the HD feed for some reason and it is constantly cutting out. If others were seeing Fox issues, it makes it not a local issue. |
| [01:10:27] | [R]: | oh... so now you explain the problem... |
| [01:11:02] | tonsofpcs: | [R]: it's not a problem on my end at all, my end is working fine. I'm trying to figure out if FOX is having issues or if $localaffiliate is having issues. |
| [01:11:13] | tonsofpcs: | A simple answer to the simple question I asked would tell me that. |
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| [01:35:24] | tonsofpcs: | hmm, they just rebooted psip |
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| [07:30:02] | somethinginteres: | can someone point me to information to allow other computers on my LAN to access mythtv's backend? I have XBMC on localhost able to work with it but not other machines on the LAN not localhost. |
| [07:32:56] | Korny: | can the other machines see the backend? |
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| [08:18:38] | somethinginteres: | Korny: hard to tell. I've only got my iPad and the PC running the backend but I am running XBMC on my iPad and that can see my machine. It says it can't connect to the myth backend though. |
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| [08:33:04] | louisdk: | Hi. I've a strange problem. When I browsing mythweb from my Nokia N9 device (set to danish) it showns the mobile version of mythweb in Spanish regardless of what lang Mythweb is set to. When I fake the Nokia N9 user agent in Firefox on my computer the mythweb is correctly shown as mobile in Danish. The only diffs as far as I can see is the Accept Lang parameter. The two user agents can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/xJA15Dqv |
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| [12:51:19] | sphery: | louisdk: language is specified by Accept-Language header in HTTP--not related to User-Agent header. You need to properly configure the browser on your N9 to send the desired Accept-Language header--usually done via some options/settings dialog, but no idea on the N9 |
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| [15:10:35] | stuartm: | da-DK should match Danish.lang if Danish_DK.lang doesn't exist |
| [15:13:56] | stuartm: | (that should just be da.lang, then we wouldn't need to be hardcoding language selections and new translations could just be dropped in) |
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| [18:03:47] | makoto: | evening all. i've got a box with an nvidia G210 in, with a 1080p monitor, upside down, using nvidias drivers. i keep getting redraws of the screen yet i'm only watching bbc news. is my upside-down screen too much? |
| [18:04:52] | makoto: | it seems much better when the EPG is up too |
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| [18:08:37] | makoto: | http://pastebin.com/wGegaJrB is what i'm getting in the terminal, i've never seen this before |
| [18:11:57] | wagnerrp: | why is your monitor upside down? |
| [18:12:44] | makoto: | it's hanging from under the top bunk of my bed |
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| [18:15:05] | duffrecords: | I recently did a full system upgrade and now MythTV won't start because "DBHostName is not set in config.xml." the weird thing is I've located all instances of config.xml and added the DBHostName parameter to them. is there somewhere else it's deriving this value? |
| [18:15:30] | wagnerrp: | duffrecords: is this the frontend or backend? |
| [18:15:33] | duffrecords: | backend |
| [18:15:41] | wagnerrp: | are you using some init script to run it? |
| [18:16:00] | duffrecords: | the new systemd service that Arch Linux recently switched to |
| [18:16:28] | wagnerrp: | open up the script in a text editor, and check to see if it is overriding the $HOME or $MYTHCONFDIR variables |
| [18:18:02] | duffrecords: | since DBHostName is not set it defaults to localhost, which should work, but then it says access denied for mythtv@localhost. that tells me it's probably got the wrong password, which means it's probably not reading the config.xml file in the first place |
| [18:18:40] | wagnerrp: | if it decides config.xml does not have enough information to connect to the database, it will use the defaults of mythtv:mythtv@localhost/mythconverg |
| [18:18:57] | duffrecords: | that's probably what's happening |
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| [18:19:29] | duffrecords: | I'll confirm that by temporarily changing the password to mythtv |
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| [18:22:02] | duffrecords: | yeah, it's using the default password |
| [18:22:26] | duffrecords: | so you think config.xml is missing some parameters? |
| [18:22:29] | wagnerrp: | makoto: does it work if you just use the OpenGL video renderer? |
| [18:22:48] | wagnerrp: | duffrecords: the config.xml file was reformatted for 0.26 |
| [18:23:07] | wagnerrp: | however mythbackend should have no trouble reading in the old format and rewriting the file to the new format |
| [18:24:57] | duffrecords: | I've found a copy of config.xml in my home, root's home, and /usr/share/mythtv/contrib/config_files. should it just be in that many places? |
| [18:24:58] | makoto: | wagnerrp: it works fine now i've got the screen back to normal |
| [18:24:58] | wagnerrp: | mythtv only reads the file from two places |
| [18:24:59] | wagnerrp: | if $MYTHCONFDIR is set in your environment, it reads from $MYTHCONFDIR/config.xml |
| [18:25:04] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, it reads from $HOME/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [18:26:01] | duffrecords: | $MYTHCONFDIR is not set. must be reading the one in root's home |
| [18:26:20] | wagnerrp: | that would imply you were running mythbackend as root, which you should not be doing |
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| [18:26:56] | wagnerrp: | your init script should be having mythbackend run as some unprivileged user, like 'mythtv' |
| [18:28:35] | duffrecords: | I used to (as root) start it as a daemon like "/etc/rc.d/mythbackend start" but that's all been switched to systemd now, which is new to me |
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| [18:29:32] | wagnerrp: | all systemd does is run some daemon in the background to track applications started by the init scripts |
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| [18:40:07] | duffrecords: | I can only run systemctl as root. if I run it as a non-privileged user it says "Failed to issue method call: Access denied" |
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| [18:42:04] | wagnerrp: | no, i'm saying systemd should be internally dropping privileges and running mythbackend as something other than root |
| [18:42:10] | duffrecords: | oh |
| [18:42:13] | wagnerrp: | not that users other than root should have access to systemd |
| [18:42:27] | duffrecords: | I'll try setting $MYTHCONFDIR |
| [18:43:02] | wagnerrp: | it only matters if it is set in the environment mythbackend is started in |
| [18:43:18] | wagnerrp: | which is going to be whatever systemd decides to give it |
| [18:43:32] | duffrecords: | how about if I set it globally then? |
| [18:44:06] | wagnerrp: | then all users globally will use that, and all users will need write access to the path you set it to |
| [18:45:47] | duffrecords: | is there a way to tell which user systemd is using to start mythbackend? |
| [18:46:04] | wagnerrp: | read the script systemd is running when you tell it to run mythbackend |
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| [18:55:24] | duffrecords: | had to create a /var/lib/mythtv/.mythtv directory and copy config.xml there. thanks, wagnerrp |
| [18:55:52] | wagnerrp: | why would you put anything in /var/lib/mythtv? |
| [18:57:09] | duffrecords: | that's the home directory of the mythtv user, who systemd is using to start the backend |
| [18:57:29] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to... somewhere in /home? |
| [18:57:46] | duffrecords: | evidently |
| [19:01:59] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I think that is per usual for system accounts |
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| [19:09:10] | duffrecords: | so the backend seems to be running now but the client has an older DB schema. is there a simple way to upgrade the schema or does the whole frontend package need to be upgraded? |
| [19:09:43] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [19:09:44] | duffrecords: | (the client is on a different distribution, so backend/frontend upgrades aren't always in sync) |
| [19:09:55] | wagnerrp: | the backend should have updated the database schema when you ran it |
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| [19:10:16] | wagnerrp: | are you saying the client wants to run an older schema than what the database now is? |
| [19:10:20] | duffrecords: | yes |
| [19:10:37] | wagnerrp: | then update the client to a version that speaks the correct schema |
| [19:11:08] | duffrecords: | I guess I'll have to use a PPA or something because the client is already at the most recent version available in that distro |
| [19:11:35] | duffrecords: | (backend is Arch Linux, frontend is Ubuntu) |
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| [19:31:25] | tgm4883: | duffrecords, what version are you running on the backend? |
| [19:31:39] | tgm4883: | duffrecords, and version of the OS are you running on the frontend |
| [19:32:48] | duffrecords: | backend=0.26, frontend=0.25. I didn't realize the backend was at that version until now |
| [19:32:59] | duffrecords: | so obviously the frontend needs to be upgraded |
| [19:33:12] | tgm4883: | duffrecords, what version of Ubuntu |
| [19:33:17] | duffrecords: | 12.04 |
| [19:34:04] | tgm4883: | duffrecords, we (the mythbuntu team) provide a 0.26 PPA for 12.04. Either install Mythbuntu Control Center and configure the PPA from there, or install the PPA manually |
| [19:34:26] | duffrecords: | doing that now, thanks |
| [19:35:11] | duffrecords: | always an elaborate production when I upgrade my Arch system |
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| [19:59:00] | antgel: | hi all. i've upgraded my parents to 0.26-fixes from 0.24-fixes. sadly it is much less stable (on their system). before i dig into why it's so problematic, can i just ask generally is 0.26-fixes known to be problematic in the average case (in as much as there is an "average")? |
| [20:01:28] | antgel: | there seem to be a lot of errors related to something called "bonjour" |
| [20:01:46] | antgel: | in this case backend: CoreContext bonjourregister.cpp:93 (BonjourCallback) – Bonjour: Callback Error: -65537 |
| [20:02:09] | wagnerrp: | bonjour is some autodetection mechanism, used by airplay and some other 3rd party applications |
| [20:02:18] | wagnerrp: | it's not used internally |
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| [20:38:47] | tgm4883: | Who would I talk to about smolt stats? I'd like to see a better breakdown for the DVB section. Specifically, I'm going to attempt writing a quick-start guide and recommending a few cards for different countries |
| [20:39:31] | wagnerrp: | i manage the reporting script, jams manages the web page |
| [20:39:43] | wagnerrp: | you're looking for specific card models? |
| [20:41:43] | wagnerrp: | this gets you somewhat what you're looking for... http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/by_class_MULTIMEDIA.html |
| [20:42:51] | wagnerrp: | http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/by_class . . . A_VIDEO.html |
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| [20:44:47] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, yea I think that is what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to recommend the most popular devices for some of the countries |
| [20:45:08] | tgm4883: | i'll probably end up having to find someone from said countries to verify those are actually good, but it's a start. Thanks |
| [20:47:45] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, hmm, does http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/by_class . . . A_VIDEO.html list only DVB? It does seem to be around the right amount for the total DVB stats, but I'm seeing PVR-150/350/500's being listed |
| [20:47:59] | wagnerrp: | it's listing generic device types |
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| [22:31:38] | antgel: | wagnerrp: thanks for your response. i haven't enabled airplay, perhaps it's enabled by default. any event, it seems really buggy. i'll check my frontend settings |
| [22:33:39] | antgel: | wagnerrp: also, if bonjour isn't used internally, why is it causing myth to crash? perhaps a red herring? |
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| [22:40:56] | antgel: | i'm starting by backend with --logpath /var/log/mythtv --daemon --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid. what's the minimum -v i should add to get extra debug as my backend seems to keep crashing? |
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| [22:44:46] | antgel: | or just use --loglevel debug and forget about -v? |
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| [22:53:16] | wagnerrp: | antgel: mythtv doesn't use bonjour for anything itself, it just exposes itself for autodiscovery over bonjour for the benefit of other applications |
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| [23:02:20] | antgel: | wagnerrp: well, it's crashing in any event. perhaps i can uninstall bonjour somehow |
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| [23:09:07] | ** antgel tries uninstalling avahi-daemon ** | |
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| [23:25:52] | antgel: | okay, purging avahi-daemon fixed the problem. *shrug* my parents don't need it. strange that nobody else has seen this issue. goodnight all |
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