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Thursday, February 7th, 2013, 00:04 UTC
[00:04:38] Bray90820: can someone look at my logs and see why my recordings are being saved in a different location then the one i defined
[00:04:57] tgm4883: ssh Bray90820
[00:05:07] tgm4883: Error: Server not found
[00:05:37] tgm4883: Bray90820, sorry, you'll have to pastebin the logs as I don't have SSH access to your machine
[00:05:47] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/2DrUZ0FA
[00:06:37] tgm4883: Bray90820, so which one did you define?
[00:06:39] tgm4883: what location
[00:07:05] Bray90820: i defined media/data/Videos/Recordings/
[00:07:16] tgm4883: Bray90820, ok, and where is it actually writing to
[00:07:46] drussell_: Bray90820: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/media/data/Videos/Recordings/', but this directory is not writeable
[00:08:10] drussell_: Bray90820: The user you're running MythTV as doesn't have write permissions to that directory
[00:08:25] Bray90820: last night i fixed that
[00:08:33] tgm4883: Bray90820, you most certainly did not
[00:08:39] drussell_: Bray90820: Not according to your log
[00:09:12] tgm4883: now you may have fixed it this morning
[00:09:23] tgm4883: but you definitely didn't fix it on Feb 5th
[00:10:43] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FyhrERWQ
[00:11:15] Bray90820: i tried recording after i fixed it and it saved to some other location
[00:11:26] tgm4883: Bray90820, I'll point out that neither 'aaron' nor '4096' say 'mythtv'
[00:11:40] tgm4883: Bray90820, also, you never said what the other directory it was saving to was
[00:11:49] Bray90820: i do apologize i can't remember the location
[00:11:58] drussell_: Bray90820: Permissions are wrong on that directory... You've got it set to be owned by user #777 and group aaron with nobody else allowed to write
[00:11:58] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/777 **
[00:11:59] Bray90820: i do however remember the end of it was livetv
[00:12:10] Bray90820: ahh
[00:12:17] Bray90820: i want to make it owned by everyone
[00:12:29] drussell_: chown it back to aaron:arron and chmod it to 777
[00:12:37] drussell_: you probably did a chown instead of chmod
[00:12:43] Bray90820: yes i did chown
[00:12:53] drussell_: chown = change ownership... chmod is what you wanted
[00:12:55] Bray90820: so i should do chown
[00:13:06] Bray90820: aaron:aaron 777
[00:13:06] tgm4883: Bray90820, was it /var/lib/mythtv/livetv
[00:13:11] Bray90820: yes that's it
[00:13:18] tgm4883: Bray90820, did you change the livetv storage group?
[00:13:26] Bray90820: no
[00:13:34] tgm4883: Were you trying to watch live tv?
[00:13:43] Bray90820: the only storage group i changed was default
[00:13:57] tgm4883: Bray90820, did you try to watch live tv?
[00:13:59] Bray90820: i was watching live tv at the time but i was recording a different channel
[00:14:19] tgm4883: Bray90820, and did the other channel get saved to that livetv directory?
[00:14:28] Bray90820: yes
[00:14:33] tgm4883: Bray90820, are you sure?
[00:14:40] Bray90820: yes i am sure
[00:14:45] drussell_: use 'chown aaron:aaron /media/data/Videos/Recordings' to fix the owner then use 'chmod 777 /media/data/Videos/Recordings' to get the modes you're looking for (readable/writeable/listable by you, your group and everyone else)
[00:15:04] tgm4883: Bray90820, are you really sure that it was the other recording that was saved in that directory and not the livetv program you were watching?
[00:15:16] Bray90820: 100% sure
[00:15:48] drussell_: then you still have a second path specified in your default storage group... You can use 'D' to delete it in mythtv-setup
[00:16:11] tgm4883: wagnerrp, if a recording can't save to the default storage group, does it use the livetv one?
[00:16:28] wagnerrp: no. everything falls back to Default, but not the other way around
[00:16:34] tgm4883: ok
[00:16:41] wagnerrp: i believe database backups are the only thing that will blindly use any storage it can find
[00:16:58] Bray90820: it was a new install
[00:17:25] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UqmmYyiU
[00:17:29] Bray90820: is that good?
[00:18:11] drussell_: That looks like what you were aiming for, yes....
[00:18:31] tgm4883: Bray90820, your recording didn't go to the livetv directory
[00:18:40] tgm4883: so are you really really sure that it did?
[00:18:43] Bray90820: yes they did
[00:19:04] Bray90820: i will LS the directory to show you if you want
[00:19:11] tgm4883: Bray90820, please do
[00:19:23] drussell_: Double check every directory listed in every storage group
[00:19:38] tgm4883: drussell_, don't need to
[00:19:43] tgm4883: drussell_, it would show up in the log
[00:20:03] tgm4883: ie. Feb 6 01:15:01 Server mythbackend[1922]: E TVRecEvent ThreadedFileWriter.cpp:119 (Open) TFW(/media/data/Videos/Recordings/1002_20130206011500.mpg:-1): Opening file '/media/data/Videos/Recordings/1002_20130206011500.mpg'.#012#011#011#011eno: Permission denied (13)
[00:20:30] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=q9BND4UP
[00:20:41] Bray90820: thats an LS of /var/lib/mythtv/livetv
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[00:21:17] drussell_: I was guessing it went to his /var/lib/mythtv/recordings not /var/lib/mythtv/livetv if it recorded to somewhere in var..
[00:21:18] tgm4883: Bray90820, yea, that isn't the recording from the log you posted
[00:21:29] tgm4883: drussell_, he said livetv
[00:21:47] tgm4883: drussell_, and still, doesn't show that other recording dir either
[00:22:02] Bray90820: hum
[00:22:06] tgm4883: drussell_, most likely, he doesn't realize that watching live tv records to files too
[00:22:08] tgm4883: Bray90820, ^^
[00:22:09] Bray90820: i will send new logs then
[00:22:26] drussell_: That's what I'm thinking... :-)
[00:22:28] Bray90820: i was watching channel 207 and recording channel 02
[00:23:00] tgm4883: Bray90820, well we'd need the channelID's to confirm
[00:23:36] tgm4883: but on a hunch, did you also tune to 233 and 777 when in live tv mode?
[00:23:53] drussell_: Still, none of 207,233 and 777 are likely a channel 02
[00:24:13] Bray90820: i did tune to those channels yes
[00:24:19] tgm4883: drussell_, well, those are channel ID's in the database.
[00:24:27] tgm4883: drussell_, we're lucky they are even close I'd say
[00:24:45] Bray90820: but channel 02 is in the log
[00:25:03] drussell_: But your log said it DIDN'T record because it couldn't write the file...
[00:25:31] drussell_: When you try to record NOW it should work, but I still don't see the recording you said showed up in the livetv dir...
[00:25:41] Korny: Doesn't backend setup check permission or does it only check existance?
[00:25:46] ** Korny forgets **
[00:26:05] tgm4883: Bray90820, I'm going to say this one time, because as you know, you and me have had issues in the past. When I say "are you 100% sure it recorded to that directory and it wasn't the livetv program you were watching", you should actually be 100% sure that is the case (eg. by playing back the actual file in a video player).
[00:26:31] Bray90820: i already said i am 100% sure
[00:26:35] tgm4883: In fact, if anyone in this channel says something like that, they likely already know what the issue is and are trying to help you figure it out on your own
[00:26:56] tgm4883: Bray90820, did you play back the file in a video player?
[00:27:05] Bray90820: it was a manual record tho
[00:27:09] drussell_: Bray90820: What we're saying is we don't believe you are actually 100% sure... You haven't shown us any evidence yet that says that's what happened....
[00:27:43] Bray90820: i tried to play it back but i didn't have the correct codec so i got lazy and just gave up
[00:27:52] Bray90820: how can i prove to you that i am 100% sure
[00:27:55] tgm4883: Bray90820, From the logs you posted, mythtv didn't save anything that you set to record. It only saved live tv
[00:27:58] Korny: Bray90820, they are asking you to try to play the video with another video player like VLC,
[00:28:06] Korny: to see if its there
[00:28:16] tgm4883: Bray90820, no need, I can 100% prove that you are wrong
[00:28:29] drussell_: Bray90820: Show us this mystery file you say it recorded to your livetv directory, then...
[00:28:39] Bray90820: ok i will
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[00:29:06] tgm4883: Feb 6 00:20:07 Server mythbackend[1922]: I TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:1029 (HandleStateChange) TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
[00:29:11] tgm4883: Feb 6 00:20:17 Server mythbackend[1922]: E ProcessRequest fileringbuffer.cpp:289 (OpenFile) FileRingBuf(/var/lib/mythtv/livetv/1777_20130206002011.mpg): OpenFile(): File too small (0B).
[00:30:30] Bray90820: should i put it in dropbox
[00:30:42] tgm4883: no
[00:30:49] tgm4883: there would be no need to show us the actual file
[00:30:57] drussell_: just the listing to the file
[00:31:06] drussell_: ls -la please
[00:31:07] tgm4883: since we don't know what you were intending to record, vs what you were watching live tv
[00:31:54] Bray90820: what directory should i ls
[00:31:59] Bray90820: or ls -la
[00:32:37] Bray90820: and here is an updated version of my backend logs
[00:32:38] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hRLfQKzj
[00:32:59] drussell_: Bray90820: You said you have a file that it recorded fine but to the wrong place... What file was it? Show us the listing of that file...
[00:33:03] Bray90820: and in the last LS channel 02 is the first result
[00:33:24] Bray90820: it's not just 1 file
[00:33:42] drussell_: No, I have not seen anything on a channel 02... Only 207, 233 and 777
[00:33:53] Bray90820: all my recordigs are going to /var/lib/mythtv/livetv
[00:34:15] drussell_: No, those are the copies of the livetv you watched on 207, 233 and 777
[00:34:22] drussell_: Where is this recording from channel 2
[00:34:23] drussell_: ?
[00:34:29] tgm4883: Bray90820, i've been searching, but I don't see those filenames in the log you provided
[00:35:19] tgm4883: oh I found one
[00:35:29] Bray90820: i also recorded on 207 while i was watching it
[00:35:40] Bray90820: tgm4883 you for 02?
[00:35:55] tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5Lf1S9es
[00:36:01] tgm4883: Bray90820, please tell me what that first line says
[00:36:57] Bray90820: it says i went from none to watching live tv
[00:37:05] tgm4883: Bray90820, what do you suppose that means
[00:37:37] drussell_: Bray90820: We will say this again... LiveTV ALWAYS records what you are WATCHING... You said you were 100% sure you had set a recording, NOT live TV and it worked but went into the livetv directory... I have yet to see any evidence of this, despite your claim that you are 100% sure that is what happened....
[00:38:00] Bray90820: can i explain
[00:38:04] tgm4883: Bray90820, no
[00:38:12] Bray90820: why not
[00:38:18] tgm4883: wagnerrp, are you sure ^^ isn't a troll?
[00:38:25] tgm4883: Bray90820, fine, explain
[00:38:29] tgm4883: I've got a few minutes to kill
[00:38:30] Bray90820: finally
[00:39:19] Bray90820: if i setup a recording on the channel i am currently watching shouldn't it go into my recordings directory
[00:39:29] drussell_: no
[00:39:37] tgm4883: nope
[00:39:41] Bray90820: why not
[00:39:47] drussell_: It is livetv
[00:40:00] Bray90820: but it is also a recording
[00:40:16] tgm4883: IDK if it ever gets moved
[00:40:33] drussell_: If you delete the directory from your livetv storage group, your livetv will go into default but otherwise, if you are watching live, it stays in livetv
[00:40:41] tgm4883: sphery or wagnerrp would know more on that
[00:40:46] Bray90820: if it does get moved then there is a problem
[00:40:57] Bray90820: because i was watching 207 and recording 207 at the same time
[00:41:03] wagnerrp: what's that?
[00:41:33] tgm4883: wagnerrp, if you are in live tv, does it move to the recordings SG if you set a recording on it?
[00:41:44] tgm4883: Bray90820, I'm assuming by hitting the recording button
[00:41:44] wagnerrp: nope, it stays put
[00:41:51] tgm4883: Bray90820, well there you go ^
[00:41:57] wagnerrp: mythtv has no mechanism to move recordings from one storage group to the next
[00:42:12] Bray90820: i setup a manual recording in the backend
[00:42:13] drussell_: You would have to move it manually if you wanted the file moved fro mlivetv
[00:42:34] tgm4883: Bray90820, you didn't have permission to write to your recording directory
[00:42:35] drussell_: But it didn't record that because no write permissions
[00:42:52] Bray90820: so did it default to livetv
[00:43:02] tgm4883: Bray90820, no
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[00:43:08] tgm4883: Bray90820, you were watching it on livetv
[00:43:16] tgm4883: which is why it was in the livetv directory
[00:43:23] drussell_: No, your recording was ignored because it couldn't write and you are left with the part you watched in livetv... As designed and expected
[00:43:37] Bray90820: AHH
[00:43:40] Bray90820: thank you
[00:43:57] Bray90820: you could have said that in the first place instead of yelling at me
[00:44:10] drussell_: lol... we tried
[00:44:40] Bray90820: well when i said let me explain wgm4883 says no
[00:44:41] tgm4883: Bray90820, basic troubleshooting steps/requests for assistance provide that you A) verify there is a problem, and B) explain what the problem is accurately
[00:44:48] drussell_: see above, including: Bray90820: We will say this again... LiveTV ALWAYS records what you are WATCHING...
[00:45:10] Bray90820: yes but you never told me it ignored my recording
[00:45:24] tgm4883: Bray90820, yes we did
[00:45:30] Bray90820: at the end you did
[00:45:33] Bray90820: but not at first
[00:45:46] tgm4883: Bray90820, you insisted that it recorded your recordings to the livetv folder
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[00:46:29] Bray90820: that's because i truly thought it did
[00:46:59] drussell_: Bray90820: And we said we thought you were wrong, you said you were 100% sure... Are you sure now?  :-)
[00:47:34] tgm4883: Bray90820, if you only remember one thing from this session, remember this. If you go into a channel seeking support and someone asks you repeatedly if you are 100% sure of what you are saying, you should verify that you are correct. Because chances are, they know way more about the software than you do and likely already know what is wrong.
[00:48:06] Bray90820: what i am sure of now is that it canceled my recording which was never said until the very end what i said i was sure about is that the video file was in the location
[00:48:19] Bray90820: and it was i had no idea if it was my recording or not
[00:48:31] tgm4883: Bray90820, stop lying
[00:48:38] Bray90820: im not lying
[00:48:46] tgm4883: You said on at least 4 occasions that you were sure
[00:48:56] drussell_: Bray90820: Yes, we did... A word of advice...Next time, take a moment to make sure you really understand what is said/asked before responding... My 2 cents
[00:49:18] Bray90820: i said i was sure that the video file was in that location
[00:49:27] tgm4883: <tgm4883> Bray90820, I'm going to say this one time, because as you know, you and me have had issues in the past. When I say "are you 100% sure it recorded to that directory and it wasn't the livetv program you were watching", you should actually be 100% sure that is the case (eg. by playing back the actual file in a video player).
[00:49:27] tgm4883: <Bray90820> i already said i am 100% sure
[00:49:44] Bray90820: i was 100% sure about the video file being in that directory
[00:49:51] Bray90820: i was 100% sure about the video file being in that directory
[00:49:51] Bray90820: i was 100% sure about the video file being in that directory
[00:49:53] drussell_: AND IT WA NOT LIVETV
[00:50:11] wagnerrp: you don't need to repeat yourself
[00:50:14] tgm4883: Bray90820, that isn't what you said
[00:50:19] tgm4883: that is what you are saying now
[00:50:24] tgm4883: after we proved you wrong
[00:50:45] Bray90820: actually if you look you will see that i said 02 was in there
[00:50:49] tgm4883: <tgm4883> Bray90820, are you really sure that it was the other recording that was saved in that directory and not the livetv program you were watching?
[00:50:49] tgm4883: <Bray90820> 100% sure
[00:50:53] Bray90820: then i changed it to 207
[00:51:27] tgm4883: Bray90820, actually, I don't care anymore. I refuse to help you from this point forward
[00:51:37] Bray90820: ok i am actually going to take responsibility for misunderstanding you at the beginning
[00:51:49] Bray90820: is it possible to get banned from this channel
[00:52:11] tgm4883: Bray90820, yes
[00:52:21] Bray90820: ok
[00:52:23] tgm4883: Bray90820, are you trying to do that?
[00:52:28] Bray90820: no
[00:52:28] jams: yes very much so
[00:52:37] ** jams wonders if reading scrollback is in order **
[00:52:40] Bray90820: i was just trying to get help and i was a bit confused
[00:52:46] tgm4883: Bray90820, rest assured, I don't have banning privs in this channel
[00:52:49] tgm4883: jams, no need
[00:53:03] Bray90820: i dont mean any harm
[00:53:06] Bray90820: really i dont
[00:53:06] tgm4883: jams, just a low level argument/discussion
[00:53:11] Bray90820: i just don't like to be called a lyer
[00:53:16] Bray90820: when i am wrong i admit it
[00:53:17] Bray90820: like i did
[00:53:23] jams: heh ok
[00:53:45] tgm4883: Bray90820, word of advice. Don't be so stubborn when people in this channel tell you something
[00:54:05] drussell_: Bray90802: Glad you got it sorted out, but you must understand why tgm4883 was frustrated...
[00:54:08] Bray90820: i wasn't being stubborn i was just confused about what you were saying
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[00:55:42] Bray90820: i apologize if misunderstanding people is not allowed in this channel
[00:56:05] tgm4883: Bray90820, don't bait me
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[00:56:46] Bray90820: i'm just trying to clear my name
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[00:57:07] Bray90820: tgm4883 i don't have anything agents you
[00:57:14] tgm4883: Bray90820, no need, this isn't the Spanish Inquisition
[00:57:39] Bray90820: but if i don't clear my name people will think badly of me in here
[00:58:41] tgm4883: Bray90820, those that will think badly of you have probably thought badly of you the second day you came in here. Those that don't think badly of you won't be swayed by you trying to "clear your name"
[00:59:02] Bray90820: it can't hurt
[00:59:06] tgm4883: Bray90820, we don't judge someone based on one experience with them.
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[00:59:27] Bray90820: tgm4883 what do you currently think of me
[00:59:35] jams: well not unless you end up getting kicked for stupid behaviour
[01:00:12] tgm4883: It's the repeated times people ask for help and are completely stubborn/unwilling to do anything that is asked of them (or the people that can't seem to follow directions completely)
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[01:00:39] Bray90820: but if people won't let me even explain myself then they might think i am being stupid without even knowing
[01:00:44] tgm4883: Bray90820, me? Personally I think you are a troll
[01:00:53] Bray90820: i am not a troll
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[01:01:14] Bray90820: i am just someone who today was confused about what you were saying
[01:01:17] drussell_: Bray90820: I think you just get ahead of yourself, reacting before actually understanding what is being asked or said, thats all...
[01:01:22] tgm4883: interesting. although that is exactly what a troll would say!
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[01:02:04] Bray90820: my problem today was i thought channel 02 recorded when in fact i red the logs wrong
[01:02:09] drussell_: Bray90820: Just slow down a little and I think you'll be fine...  :-)
[01:02:38] Bray90820: but if people refuse to help me i can't get better
[01:03:17] Bray90820: drussell_ your fine
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[01:04:13] tgm4883: home time
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[01:04:43] ** Bray90820 says finally **
[01:05:33] Bray90820: i do appreciate you helping me with the promissions issue tho
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[01:20:34] YMMS: Hi, Just wondering if anybody has success with using c-band lnb with mythtv, I have an issue where by mythtv can only lock channels on my ku band lnb . It can scan and see channels on the c-band in mythtv-setup but fails to lock on to them . Using other tools such as szap c-band channels can be locked and watched with mplayer etc. Does anyone have any ideas as to the cause ?
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[01:27:57] tonsofpcs: any "doh" in arrow this week?
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[01:35:58] wagnerrp: odd... i don't know why i'm not recording it
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[02:42:51] tonsofpcs: anyone using a bluetooth remote control device with mythfrontend? suggestions? thoughts?
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[03:25:24] jabain: I am having problems getting my IR blaster setup. I am using a HDPVR, my STB is a Pace DC550D. I used the power off scripts that is shown in the mythv.org wiki, and none of the codes affect my DC550D. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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[03:29:42] jabain: Does anyone know how to map lirc codes needed to control a STB?
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[03:30:39] jabain: :(
[03:31:48] neufeld: jabain: the HD-PVR's blaster doesn't send arbitrary signals. The STB's command set must be known and programmed into its firmware.
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[03:40:20] tonsofpcs: hmm..... ""
[03:40:20] tonsofpcs: Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2013-01–28 12:46:35 and ended on 2013-01–28 12:47:01. Successful.
[03:40:25] tonsofpcs: Suggested next mythfilldatabase run: 2013-01–29 15:59"" << from mythweb
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[03:42:42] tonsofpcs: ran a --dd-grab-all and it updated to $now...
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[03:46:07] tonsofpcs: also has 16 days instead of 6 days.... hmm....
[03:46:21] tonsofpcs: *blames gigem's patch without any further data*
[03:46:28] tonsofpcs: :D
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[04:02:56] jabain: neufeld: Sorry...got disconnected...did not see reply....If I get an blaster that connects to my mythbox, would I be able to send arbitrary codes?
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[04:06:23] jams: jabain, yes a serial, commandir or iguanair-usb are all capable of it
[04:07:10] jams: mce can also do it, but the blaster doesn't work on some units in recent kernels
[04:08:58] jams: of those i really like the commandir..the thing just works but of course it costs more
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[04:24:59] ** DarthFrog has 2 CommandIRs. **
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[05:53:04] Ben64: some channels have incorrect descriptions in the guide using EIT, how can i fix it?
[05:53:12] wagnerrp: if EIT is wrong, there's nothing you can do about it
[05:53:30] wagnerrp: your broadcaster is under no obligation to provide you accurate data
[05:53:51] wagnerrp: especially considering hardly anyone uses it for anything but the current channel
[05:54:04] Ben64: but i'm thinking it isn't bad data, but maybe a bug?
[05:54:22] wagnerrp: chances are better than average on it being bad data
[05:54:45] Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986399
[05:54:51] Ben64: its very similar to that post
[05:55:06] wagnerrp: that's not to say it couldn't be a bug, because to be honest, the MythTV ATSC EIT scanner does not get much use or testing
[05:56:14] Ben64: the show titles are all fine, but the descriptions are messed up. for example, community comes on tomorrow at 8pm but it's description is at friday at 6:30pm
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[06:01:14] Ben64: is there a way to get rid of all guide data and have it all re-download
[06:01:33] wagnerrp: EIT doesn't download, it is captured from the recordings
[06:02:02] Ben64: well its all saved somewhere days in advance
[06:02:10] wagnerrp: you can try opening up mysql, and running 'truncate table program;'
[06:02:20] wagnerrp: followed by 'mythbackend --resched'
[06:02:35] wagnerrp: or it may have been moved to 'mythutil --resched', i don't recall
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[06:35:16] Ben64: well, doing the "truncate table program;" worked like gangbusters. descriptions and titles now match up
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[10:04:32] kisame: yo guyz
[10:05:37] kisame: i'm facing some problims with mythtv
[10:05:53] kisame: may u help
[10:06:01] kisame: ?
[10:18:39] kisame: help
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[10:39:12] toeb: kisame: you should ask a question...
[10:40:03] toeb: kisame: myth has a lot of features people only know if they can help if they also know the question you have
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[14:00:19] TandyUK: anyone able to help debuggling lirc...
[14:00:35] TandyUK: i have an mce_usb remote with a reciever, as well as an imon lcd panel
[14:01:00] TandyUK: after a recent update, once the imon lcd is configured, the mce remote stops working, i get no output from irw etc
[14:01:14] TandyUK: all the configs look right, but im not sure where to go from here
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[14:25:15] TandyUK: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=128972
[14:25:28] TandyUK: reckon this patch might make its way into the kernel?
[14:32:59] wagnerrp: perhaps, assuming someone submits it somewhere more authoritative than the xbmc forums
[14:36:07] TandyUK: i think its already in actually
[14:36:29] TandyUK: its just loading the wrong module by default, and im still trying to work out how to stop lircdev getting loaded
[14:41:44] wagnerrp: what is 'lircdev'?
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[16:58:34] TandyUK: i got A keypress!
[16:58:35] TandyUK: http://pastebin.com/s3nydYXH
[16:58:48] TandyUK: however once lirc throws that error, no more are detected.
[16:59:07] TandyUK: i have got the file from sf, and it is up to date, so i dont know why it is even throwing that error
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[17:27:20] TandyUK: ok got the error to go by manually putting the first remote section of that file as /etc/lircd.conf, and now i get 2 keypresses detected by irw before nothing more happens
[17:27:27] TandyUK: restart lirc, and i can repeat 2 presses
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[17:55:23] drussell_: TandyUK: No idea... I've had problems with MCE receivers if they're behind a USB hub, but your problem sounds very strange... I guess I'd try the lirc mailing list and see if anyone there can help you...
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[18:08:17] Oleg_: hello
[18:08:20] Oleg_: what's up?
[18:09:33] TandyUK: nah its directly connected
[18:09:56] TandyUK: i have better results having removed lcdproc and lirc, and unplugged the imon display
[18:10:03] TandyUK: but its still very buggy
[18:10:12] TandyUK: just reinstalling lirc see if that makes a difference
[18:13:40] TandyUK: hmm no
[18:14:00] TandyUK: it picks up a keypress every now and then, but maybe 10% of the keys i actually press
[18:14:10] TandyUK: i can see the led flashing every time on the reciever though
[18:22:55] neufeld: TandyUK: if the receiver is indicating that it sees a signal, is it possible something else is grabbing your keypresses? Maybe your active window doesn't have exclusive access to the events.
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[19:18:58] kusznir: Hi all: is there an "easy" way to convert recordings into video archives? I'm thinking specifically about the case where I recorded an entire season of TV shows. I'd like to keep them around forever, but I don't want to do so as a normal TV recording. I'd rather put it in the videos archive, with commertials permanently removed (edited out, not just a cutlist), and filed by name/season, etc.
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[19:37:37] DarthFrog: kusznir: Mytharchive will do that for you, as a file archive or burnt to DVD.
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[19:54:36] wagnerrp: kusznir: use mythtranscode to losslessly remove the commercials, use mythvidexport to migrate those recordings to the video library
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[21:18:23] wizbit: how can i make the visuals in mythmusic go full screen?
[21:22:56] wagnerrp: masking tape
[21:24:10] clever: wagnerrp: ah, the same way you fix the blinking time on a VCR?
[21:28:09] stuartm: wizbit: there's a key binding iirc, but you can also do it through the menu, Switch View > Fullscreen Visualiser
[21:29:06] wagnerrp: that solution is reasonable and boring...
[21:29:15] jams: isnt' the keybinding the number 5 ?
[21:29:19] jams: or is it 4
[21:29:21] wagnerrp: BRING OUT THE TAPE!
[21:30:05] stuartm: jams: used to be one of those, but it was always hardcoded, with the mythui port it was made configurable but not bound by default
[21:30:55] jams: ah that could explain why i had trouble using it the other day..thought it was my remote being weird :)
[21:31:02] stuartm: wagnerrp: well I'm sure there are other solutions too, maybe one involving a fresnel lens
[21:31:09] jams: or mythmusic itself
[21:32:12] wizbit: stuartm: ACE
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[21:35:42] wagnerrp: stuartm: those only work in large, south american countries
[21:36:14] wizbit: if i put in new radio streams the frontend crashes
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[21:36:26] wizbit: sometimes the frontend crashes when doing meta updates on mythvideo
[21:36:43] wizbit: the frontend seems to be buggy with data input
[21:36:58] wizbit: maybe buggy parser code?
[21:37:15] wizbit: or a buggy user :-/
[21:42:52] stuartm: wagnerrp: I can't tell if that was just a bit of absurdity or a reference that went over my head :)
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[21:44:19] wagnerrp: stuartm: Brazil... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bAQtfn7cQGc/SRxfflU . . . machines.jpg
[21:45:04] stuartm: Eu falo portugeuês!
[21:45:10] stuartm: wagnerrp: love that film
[21:45:22] stuartm: but I had forgotten that detail
[21:45:54] wagnerrp: yeah, all their computer have tiny little tube displays and big fresnel lenses
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[21:47:44] stuartm: just added Twelve Monkeys to my blu-ray collection, wonder what the picture quality is like for Brazil on the Blu-ray transfer
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[21:51:33] wagnerrp: i've got the HDDVD (of Twelve Monkeys) if you wish to compare
[21:51:58] wagnerrp: 15.3Mbps VC-1
[21:52:51] YMMS: Hey Im new here, and I am here with a question I am desperate to have answered , Can some one who is a regular let me know how often I can repeat my question with out being a nuisance ?
[21:53:24] wagnerrp: if there have only been a handful of new people enter the room since the last time you asked, it is too soon
[21:53:41] wagnerrp: figure a half hour to an hour is a good wait
[21:54:20] YMMS: makes sense, just my laptop and I have been asleep the last 8 hours and have not yet memorised names
[21:54:23] YMMS: cool
[21:54:28] YMMS: ok here goes again then
[21:54:35] YMMS: Hi, Just wondering if anybody has success with using c-band lnb with mythtv, I have an issue where by mythtv can only lock channels on my ku band lnb . It can scan and see channels on the c-band in mythtv-setup but fails to lock on to them . Using other tools such as szap c-band channels can be locked and watched with mplayer etc. Does anyone have any ideas as to the cause ?
[21:55:23] sheppard: The Genuine Nissan DCT-fluid has a FZG A10/16.6R/90 level of 8
[21:55:27] sheppard: really!
[21:55:30] sheppard: oops
[21:55:40] wagnerrp: that's... good to know...
[21:55:56] YMMS: I use mobil one
[21:56:39] stuartm: wagnerrp: mediainfo reckons the Blu-ray is 30.5Mbps VC1, overall bitrate of 34.5Mbps, DTS HD audio
[21:56:40] wagnerrp: you change your own transmission fluid?
[21:57:52] stuartm: you drive an automatic?
[22:01:49] stuartm: apparently the UK blu-ray of Brazil has OK but not impressive visuals, about what you'd expect for a film of that age, but for some reason the audio is stereo (2.0) even though the US blu-ray has 5.1 DTS
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[22:03:11] YMMS: ha ha the kde irc client is called konversation
[22:03:31] stuartm: US version is region free ... guess that's the one I'd go for if I bought it at all
[22:03:32] YMMS: woops sorry, its just i havnt used irc in years
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[22:10:36] justinh: gahhhh... prestashop owns me now. I'm not charging people enough for this consultancy lark
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[22:23:38] jabain: Hi All, I guess I need an LIRC solution that will learn from my STB remote. I looked at CommandIR, but that's almost $100. Is there a lower cost version that anyone knows about out there? If not, I may end up building my own using an Arduino board, but I would like to buy something prebuilt if it's not too expensive.
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[22:25:02] justinh: most MCE USB receivers can learn just about any IR remote
[22:25:22] justinh: it's blasting they (well, mine) seem to have trouble with
[22:25:31] jams: but he also needs to transmit and as you know thats broken for alot of mce right now
[22:26:07] jams: jabain..igunair has some usb devices and a serial device that will work
[22:27:53] justinh: jabain: raspberry pi? ;-) I'm using mine for IR blasting... and soon likely receiving too
[22:28:05] jabain: Thanks....I will look into igunair
[22:28:26] justinh: lirc over IP... mmmmm
[22:28:44] jabain: justinh: I have a PI.....Do you have any doco on what you did?
[22:29:16] jabain: All I need is a blaster.
[22:29:22] jams: http://iguanaworks.net but their devices are weird in their layout
[22:29:35] justinh: search for raspberry pi lirc ;-)
[22:29:42] jabain: ok thx
[22:30:06] jabain: I got some ideas now......back to google :)
[22:30:19] jams: or irblaster.info since all you need is the blaster
[22:31:06] jabain: I just remembered that I need to figure out my codes first....the receive part is just used at config time.....as I cannot find any reference to a LIRC setup for my STB.
[22:31:14] justinh: jabain: it's basically GPIO17 or 18 going to the base of a BC547 through a 470R resistor, then collector goes to one end of the LED. +5V goes to the other end of the LED... and the collector connects to 0V :-).
[22:31:24] justinh: the IR LED btw
[22:31:29] jabain: Unless you guys know where I can find an lirc setup for a PACE DC550D
[22:31:46] justinh: jabain: not in lirc.org/remotes anywhere?
[22:32:24] justinh: bah.. but this might work: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/pace/DC551P
[22:32:44] justinh: or not.. ugh.. only 10 buttons? LOL
[22:32:48] jams: justinh, he will probably still need a blaster as the only thing he has is a hdpvr which is limited to the codes in the firmware
[22:33:14] justinh: jams: my Pi is a blaster :-)
[22:33:34] jabain: thats my current issue (using the hdpvr), but the blaster is still needed
[22:34:01] jabain: justinh: how does mythtv tell the PI when to send the IR signal?
[22:34:01] justinh: jams: this prestashop thing man, it's FUGLY. Here's how it gets product attributes out of the database: http://pastebin.com/mCddwRsA
[22:34:24] justinh: jabain: oh I don't use the blaster with mythtv
[22:34:31] justinh: I'm using it with my phone & tablet :D
[22:34:54] justinh: but if I was using the blaster with mythtv I'd use a script to talk to lirc over the network
[22:35:09] jams: with all those left joins the code makes a complete circle
[22:35:26] jabain: How is your tablet talking to the pi?
[22:35:53] justinh: a webapp
[22:36:03] jams: jabain..myth would call a script, which calls irsend (configured with the port/ip for the pi)
[22:36:52] jabain: is irsend client server? Would lirc be running on the pi and irsend on the mythbox?
[22:36:56] justinh: jams: trying to find a way to update stock levels of product lines automagically. it's a *nightmare* when all the attributes are abstracted out so
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[22:37:15] justinh: lirc has a telnet-like socket you can use :-)
[22:38:06] jams: jabain irsend part of the lirc package. It's a client program that talks to the lircd daemon
[22:38:15] jams: which can happen over sockets or port
[22:38:19] jabain: Awesome! that may work. I have some research to do. If I can get USB running on my myth, then that would be my first choice....if not, then I will look into the pi.
[22:38:24] jams: anyway i have to go move snow around
[22:38:48] jabain: haha lol. You must be in the GTA? I am in Niagara...hasn't started here yet.
[22:41:56] neufeld: Not started yet in Ottawa, and the radar's clear.
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[22:42:14] justinh: oh yeah baby God bless good ole CSV import
[22:42:33] justinh: I didn't wanna be messing with the actual database. Not when it's such a bloody mess
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[22:54:45] jabain: I think I am going to order a USB device from iguanaworks. Looks like it might work for me.
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[23:55:47] Deanis: HI. Struggling... What is the best way to determine the naming of a video file so MythVideo picks up meta-data for and episode of the original Twilight Zone? Is there a website I can test/search or visually see?
[23:56:27] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing
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[23:57:29] wagnerrp: ideally, they would be named such that the video library could pick up the season and episode number
[23:57:41] wagnerrp: otherwise, it would try to figure them out on its own through the subtitle
[23:58:06] wagnerrp: the grabber script packaged with mythtv pulls television data from thetvdb.com
[23:58:13] wagnerrp: specifically... http://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=seasonall&id=73587&lid=7
[23:58:19] wagnerrp: Deanis: ^^^
[23:58:49] Deanis: Let me see where this leads.

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