| Thursday, January 24th, 2013, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:27] | tgm4883: | Sorry I truncated the version |
| [00:00:28] | tgm4883: | apt-get install libmyth-python=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 libmythtv-perl=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythtv-common=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythtv-database=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythtv-transcode-utils=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythweb=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 php-mythtv=2:0.25.3+fixes.201301 |
| [00:00:28] | tgm4883: | 13.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 |
| [00:00:34] | tgm4883: | bah |
| [00:00:52] | tgm4883: | that should be one command |
| [00:00:59] | tgm4883: | no space/enter between the two 1's |
| [00:01:37] | Bray90820: | can you give me toe code once more |
| [00:01:59] | tgm4883: | http://pastebin.com/5AjjFTQC |
| [00:02:43] | Bray90820: | thats's all one coce right? |
| [00:02:54] | tgm4883: | yea |
| [00:03:01] | Bray90820: | ok |
| [00:04:47] | sphery: | Bray90820: you're really better off removing 0.25 and going to 0.26 |
| [00:04:54] | sphery: | 0.26 isn't working because you have both on your system |
| [00:04:54] | tgm4883: | I agree |
| [00:05:00] | sphery: | there's nothing fundamentally wrong with 0.26 |
| [00:05:03] | tgm4883: | You didn't specify why 0.26 was broken for you |
| [00:05:26] | Bray90820: | i ment broken as not installed correctly |
| [00:05:47] | tgm4883: | well that's a terrible reason to do all this work to roll back |
| [00:05:51] | sphery: | so uninstall both and reinstall 0.26 properly (such that it's installed) |
| [00:06:02] | sphery: | I'm guessing that you just tried to upgrade to 0.26, but didn't do it right |
| [00:06:07] | sphery: | some update vs upgrade type problem |
| [00:06:08] | Bray90820: | but i also herd there were some playback errors of live tv with 0.26 |
| [00:06:28] | tgm4883: | live tv works for me on 0.26 with my hdhr prime |
| [00:06:32] | tgm4883: | I don't use it often though |
| [00:06:33] | justdave: | yeah, livetv doesn't work with analog tuners in 0.26 |
| [00:06:39] | justdave: | it works fine with digital tuners though |
| [00:06:41] | sphery: | and, in general, live tv fails on every version of mythtv |
| [00:06:46] | tgm4883: | I prefer to stay away from legacy stuff |
| [00:06:49] | Bray90820: | i do have a HDHR prome |
| [00:07:17] | Bray90820: | and when i ran the 3rd code you gave me i got an error it's prob not a problem but just to make sure |
| [00:07:17] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QRuVzrbC |
| [00:07:29] | tgm4883: | that's fine |
| [00:07:44] | Bray90820: | ok |
| [00:07:51] | tgm4883: | so as long as it's done with that we can procede with dropping the database |
| [00:07:52] | Bray90820: | so right now what is the state of everything |
| [00:08:14] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, currently, 0.25 is installed, database is probably at a 0.26 schema |
| [00:08:30] | tgm4883: | but I'm unsure on the schema part, since you didn't have a 0.26 backend or frontend installed |
| [00:09:16] | sphery: | as for the state of MythTV in general, 0.26 is the current released--and supported--version |
| [00:09:23] | sphery: | 0.25 really isn't getting any fixes |
| [00:09:25] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, are you familiar with dropping the database? |
| [00:09:31] | Bray90820: | well from what i can tell nothing is installed |
| [00:09:44] | tgm4883: | what do you mean nothing is installed? |
| [00:09:59] | Bray90820: | 0.25 and 0.26 are not installed from what i can tell |
| [00:10:14] | tgm4883: | pastebin 'dpkg -l | grep mythtv' |
| [00:10:53] | Bray90820: | the icons for 0.25 were removed when i ren those codes and mythbuntu control center says no backend is installed |
| [00:10:58] | tgm4883: | I've got to head home soon |
| [00:11:05] | tgm4883: | please do the pastebin |
| [00:11:17] | tgm4883: | actually, do |
| [00:11:24] | tgm4883: | 'dpkg -l | grep -i myth' |
| [00:11:33] | Bray90820: | ok |
| [00:11:34] | Bray90820: | i will |
| [00:11:44] | Bray90820: | but it'll be a few minutes |
| [00:11:50] | Bray90820: | firefox randomly decided to update |
| [00:14:22] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rWnj6eCj |
| [00:14:27] | Bray90820: | that code confused me |
| [00:14:35] | Bray90820: | it seems like 0.25 is installed |
| [00:14:50] | Bray90820: | but whatever i was using before is just gone |
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| [00:16:14] | tgm4883: | do 'apt-get install mythtv-backend=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythtv-backend-master=2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 mythtv-frontend-2:0.25.3+fixes.20130113.fa3ebd4–0ubuntu0mythbuntu3' |
| [00:16:28] | tgm4883: | ok, got to go. I'll be back at home in probably 30 minutes |
| [00:16:44] | tgm4883: | Next steps, Drop the database, reconfigure mythtv-database |
| [00:17:49] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 whenever you get back just ping me |
| [00:17:57] | Bray90820: | exit |
| [00:19:21] | Bray90820: | so i ran your code |
| [00:19:22] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3BcTZEAV |
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| [01:15:40] | ramzy__: | Would anyone be able to help getting HVR-1600s/cx18 module working under arch linux? Or know a better place to ask? |
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| [01:23:35] | ramzy__: | Anybody here with experience setting up HVR-1600s/cx18 module under arch linux? |
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| [01:35:18] | dcope: | hey all, i'm trying to setup my hvr 1250 on ubu but it's not finding any channels when scanning. any ideas? |
| [01:35:57] | wagnerrp: | what are you trying to scan? |
| [01:36:07] | dcope: | wagnerrp: just for qam channels |
| [01:36:17] | wagnerrp: | so digital cable? what parameters? |
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| [01:38:44] | dcope: | wagnerrp: using `scan` from dvb-apps? |
| [01:38:52] | dcope: | or the settings i'm giving mytv backend? |
| [01:39:15] | wagnerrp: | the settings you're using in mythtv-setup to perform the scan |
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| [01:40:20] | skd5aner: | how the heck do I scan for new music in mythmusic? |
| [01:40:26] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 are you around |
| [01:40:36] | dcope: | well i'm just using a video source i made with the default channcel frequency table and the tramsitted guide only as the listings grabber, wag |
| [01:40:39] | dcope: | wagnerrp |
| [01:41:09] | wagnerrp: | yes, but when you scanned with mythtv-setup, you did not find any channels |
| [01:41:14] | dcope: | yes |
| [01:41:15] | wagnerrp: | what parameters did you use in the scan? |
| [01:41:26] | dcope: | wagnerrp: i'm just using the mythtv-backend UI |
| [01:41:38] | wagnerrp: | you're using mythtv-setup, correct? |
| [01:41:45] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend has no UI |
| [01:41:50] | dcope: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [01:41:51] | wagnerrp: | it's a terminal application only |
| [01:42:02] | wagnerrp: | and you scanned for channels in mythtv-setup? |
| [01:42:50] | dcope: | oh, no, i'm using some ui that was installed with the debain package |
| [01:43:12] | wagnerrp: | it that UI isn't an application named "mythtv-setup", we can't help you |
| [01:43:30] | wagnerrp: | *if |
| [01:44:05] | wagnerrp: | by the way, you're not going to get any transmitted guide data over digital cable |
| [01:44:09] | dcope: | i'll check in a second |
| [01:44:27] | skd5aner: | so, does anyone have a clue how you scan for new music in a directory structure within the "new" mythmusic? was really simple before, but can't find it for the life of me now |
| [01:44:30] | dcope: | wagnerrp: ah, i thought i would. my sony tv is able to do it. :( |
| [01:44:37] | wagnerrp: | EIT data is an over-the-air broadcast thing only |
| [01:44:41] | wagnerrp: | only broadcast stations provide it |
| [01:45:00] | dcope: | wagnerrp: i'm running MythTV Backend Setup |
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| [01:45:03] | wagnerrp: | cable systems provide EIT data to their own cable boxes over a different mechanism |
| [01:46:10] | dcope: | wagnerrp: when i plug the antenna directly to the tv there is no cable box. |
| [01:46:18] | dcope: | and it's still able to get *some* guide data |
| [01:46:54] | wagnerrp: | that would be from the broadcast channels, not the cable channels |
| [01:47:24] | dcope: | i see |
| [01:47:27] | ** dcope is still very new to all of this ** | |
| [01:47:56] | dcope: | so if just using a digital antenna, for the scan should i just use "Brodcast" as the type? |
| [01:48:03] | wagnerrp: | so in mythtv-setup... |
| [01:48:18] | wagnerrp: | you go into input connections, you select the input for your digital tuner, and then you click "Scan for channels" |
| [01:48:28] | wagnerrp: | what parameters did you use? |
| [01:49:06] | dcope: | type: full, frequency table: broadcast, modulation: i've tried all of the qam, scanning range is blank |
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| [01:49:59] | wagnerrp: | wait, are you using digital cable? or broadcast? |
| [01:50:02] | ** skd5aner wants to see mythmusic die a firey death ** | |
| [01:50:12] | dcope: | wagnerrp: it's just a digital antenna i bought. |
| [01:50:14] | wagnerrp: | your first comment said you were scanning for "qam channels", which means digital cable |
| [01:50:19] | skd5aner: | WHY WON'T THIS THING JUST WORK?! |
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| [01:50:31] | dcope: | wagnerrp: http://www.lowes.com/pd_1985-63374-ANT1600R_0 . . . gpspn=pla%22 |
| [01:50:41] | dcope: | wagnerrp: oh, sorry, i thought qam was over the air. |
| [01:50:50] | wagnerrp: | use the "Broadcast" frequency table, and use "Terrestrial (8-VSB)" modulation |
| [01:50:51] | dcope: | btw, thatn you for your patience with this. |
| [01:50:56] | wagnerrp: | those should be the default settings |
| [01:50:58] | skd5aner: | qam = cable, atsc = OTA (in US) |
| [01:51:43] | dcope: | cool, that finds channels :) |
| [01:51:55] | ** dcope launches the front end ** | |
| [01:52:09] | wagnerrp: | why are you launching the frontend? |
| [01:52:21] | dcope: | wagnerrp: just to see if it worked |
| [01:52:23] | wagnerrp: | the frontend is no good with out the backend, and the backend is no good until you've scanning in those channels |
| [01:52:24] | dcope: | appears it does :) |
| [01:52:33] | wagnerrp: | surely you haven't scanned that whole range in under two minutes |
| [01:52:37] | dcope: | wagnerrp: i scanned them all in with your help. thanks |
| [01:52:39] | skd5aner: | I'm an idiot... I finally found the scan for new music stuff... geeze |
| [01:52:42] | dcope: | wagnerrp: just about 70 or so channels it said |
| [01:52:50] | dcope: | only found ~5 working ones |
| [01:53:08] | dcope: | this is pretty cool! :) |
| [01:53:24] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: settings --> media settings --> music tools --> scan |
| [01:53:35] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: oh gee, now you chime in :S |
| [01:53:40] | wagnerrp: | roughly the same place it used to be |
| [01:54:09] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yea... my eyes were playing tricks on me... totally my mistake – it's like forgetting where you put your glasses and then realizing that you are wearing them |
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| [01:56:18] | tonsofpcs: | hmm, audio issues with the start of arrow tonight? |
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| [01:59:58] | skd5aner: | I wish Paul would have left the ability to sort artist by Letter.... |
| [02:00:09] | skd5aner: | takes forever to navigate to "S", evne with page down |
| [02:07:38] | dcope: | wagnerrp: is mythtv backened setup supposed to make a db for me? |
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| [02:09:21] | wagnerrp: | you must create the empty database, mythtv-setup will populate it |
| [02:09:41] | wagnerrp: | there's an SQL file in the source package that you use to do so |
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| [02:10:20] | wagnerrp: | it amounts to creating the database, setting some encoding and engine defaults, and adding default access credentials |
| [02:10:31] | dcope: | ah |
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| [02:14:51] | dcope: | cool, found the credentials |
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| [02:54:42] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 are you around |
| [02:58:40] | Korny: | evening all |
| [02:59:11] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, sorry, stuff happened. Back now |
| [02:59:25] | Bray90820: | it's alright |
| [02:59:31] | Bray90820: | i am going to be leaving soon |
| [03:00:12] | tgm4883: | so just do the command without the =<version> parts |
| [03:00:56] | Bray90820: | so the last code you gave me |
| [03:00:59] | Bray90820: | i got this error |
| [03:01:00] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QRuVzrbC |
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| [03:04:09] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, is mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend installed? |
| [03:04:28] | Bray90820: | im not sure but from what i can tell it's not |
| [03:04:33] | Korny: | Bray90820, back again lol |
| [03:04:51] | Korny: | No luck Bray90820 :( |
| [03:04:53] | Bray90820: | korney i never got it working |
| [03:05:01] | tgm4883: | Bray90820, did you do an 'apt-get install mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend mythtv-backend-master'? |
| [03:05:11] | Bray90820: | but i think i am finally getting to the bottom of it |
| [03:05:23] | Korny: | tgm4883, last night he had two different versions of myth running I believe |
| [03:05:52] | Korny: | Did that get straightened out Bray90820 ? |
| [03:05:55] | tgm4883: | Korny, no he didn't. Although he did have different versions of different packages installed |
| [03:06:14] | Bray90820: | tgm4883 i'll do that right now |
| [03:06:26] | Korny: | tgm4883, when I last saw it last night that was the concensus, sorry |
| [03:06:46] | tgm4883: | Korny, no worries, we got it straightened out earlier |
| [03:07:00] | ** Korny is just lazy and uses mythbuntu ** | |
| [03:07:46] | tgm4883: | Korny, as most people should ;) |
| [03:08:09] | Bray90820: | i did that code |
| [03:08:15] | Bray90820: | but i have to go right now |
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| [03:08:29] | Bray90820: | i will be back in about 2 hours |
| [03:08:34] | ** Bray90820 is away ** | |
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| [03:14:23] | Korny: | Why do extra work when others can do it for you, heck my front ends are setup to do unattened updates :/ |
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| [03:21:20] | kisak: | hmm ... did the HDHR change from 0.25 to 0.26 ... I'm getting 'eno: Transport endpoint is not connected (107)' out of a tuner that shouldn't be active at a;; |
| [03:21:30] | kisak: | s/a;;/all/ |
| [03:21:53] | kisak: | perhaps it's just having a bit of trouble settling in |
| [03:23:21] | kisak: | no, I'm misreading my numbering, it is complaining on the active tuner |
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| [05:48:02] | Quantum7: | Compile crash: https://paste.debian.net/228009/ |
| [05:48:52] | Quantum7: | Stable won't compile but nightly compiles fine! |
| [05:53:13] | Quantum7: | He-llo? |
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| [13:30:56] | Quantum7: | Compile crash: https://paste.debian.net/228009/ |
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| [13:34:53] | toeb: | Quantum7: have you done "make clean", between switching versions? |
| [13:35:20] | Quantum7: | Y, but it gets alot of errors. Dir not empty and so on. |
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| [13:38:28] | toeb: | you may have to switch back to master, make clean (distclean?), switch to 0.26 and try again... |
| [13:41:14] | Quantum7: | Y make clean and distclean are just not doing their jobs. |
| [13:47:26] | toeb: | works for me... |
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| [13:57:47] | Quantum7: | toeb: N fails the same way, after starting fresh. |
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| [14:04:59] | Quantum7: | I've just downloaded a new copy of Myth 0.26 and it still fails compile the same way. |
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| [14:08:45] | Quantum7: | 0.26 just does not compile on my machine. |
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| [14:27:38] | jams: | Quantum7, did you clear out all the installed mythtv libs on your machine before compiling? |
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| [16:05:14] | Vollstrecker: | Hey guys, is an old chan-scan stored somewhere? After unitymedia switched off encryption, I tried using an budget_ci card based on Phillips SA7146 Chip. Tuned scan just gives me an error about argument parsing. Complete scan with germany setting claims that no new channs are found and shows an empty list. Scanning on cmd-line using scan from dvb-apps gives me 487 services. |
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| [16:07:56] | Vollstrecker: | Complete scan gives on cmd-line withb chanscan turned verbose, that tuning fails, if this helps. |
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| [16:56:33] | Quantum7: | jams, I've never used the packaging system to install Myth. Only compile. |
| [16:59:43] | bas-t: | Quantum7: from git? |
| [17:00:09] | Quantum7: | N 0.26 DLed from .org. |
| [17:00:27] | bas-t: | if so, git clean -xfd should do the job |
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| [17:00:38] | bas-t: | ah.. |
| [17:02:19] | Quantum7: | Compile fail. I don't know how often that's updated. |
| [17:03:12] | bas-t: | try git |
| [17:03:39] | Quantum7: | For 0.26? |
| [17:03:45] | bas-t: | yeaah |
| [17:03:51] | Quantum7: | K |
| [17:04:05] | bas-t: | git clone -b fixes/0.26 |
| [17:04:52] | Quantum7: | "You must specify a repository to clone." |
| [17:05:24] | bas-t: | Y git clone https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv.git |
| [17:05:48] | bas-t: | and then cd mythtv && git checkout fixes/0.26 |
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| [17:08:25] | bas-t: | next: cd mythtv && ./configure --some-opts |
| [17:09:18] | Quantum7: | Thx. Doing the first git now. |
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| [17:18:48] | bas-t: | what distro are you on? i suspect a dependency prob |
| [17:19:07] | Quantum7: | Debian Testing. Started make now... |
| [17:19:22] | Quantum7: | Ooo got past the problem... |
| [17:19:54] | bas-t: | goody |
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| [17:28:43] | Quantum7: | :( New fail, albeit alot further along... https://paste.debian.net/228254/ |
| [17:29:59] | bas-t: | dependency. i'm on debian testing too, compiling right now. |
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| [17:30:23] | bas-t: | do you have multimedia and oppserver in your repos? |
| [17:31:22] | Quantum7: | I was told to take out deb-multimedia. And no oppserver. |
| [17:31:36] | bas-t: | don't |
| [17:36:10] | bas-t: | also: 'apt-get build-deb mythtv' is not enough |
| [17:36:49] | Quantum7: | Only externals call for in the failing command are: -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -lQtCore -lpthread |
| [17:37:19] | Quantum7: | json_parser.o: file not recognized: File truncated |
| [17:37:20] | Quantum7: | collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| [17:39:24] | Quantum7: | libjson0-dev? |
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| [17:40:45] | bas-t: | you're on 64 bits? No need for that for a HTPC |
| [17:41:00] | bas-t: | the extra packages: http://pastebin.com/Z7135htn |
| [17:42:24] | Quantum7: | O my gosh. |
| [17:42:30] | Quantum7: | Y 64 bit |
| [17:43:46] | bas-t: | You better be on 32 bits, even when running on a 64 bits capable machine. I do... |
| [17:45:41] | Quantum7: | A bunch of missing stuff... |
| [17:46:04] | bas-t: | well, some are for tvheadend, but not much |
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| [17:50:58] | Quantum7: | This is for my laptop, which is remote to the HTPC. I have 0.27 from about two weeks ago running on the HTPC, and I'm worried about database schema with 0.26. |
| [17:51:48] | Quantum7: | Noticed a few weirdities with 0.27 and would like to go back to 0.26 if possible. |
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| [17:52:59] | Quantum7: | compiling... |
| [17:54:15] | Quantum7: | craash, same place. |
| [17:54:54] | Quantum7: | https://paste.debian.net/228254/ |
| [17:56:58] | Quantum7: | JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) |
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| [17:57:31] | bas-t: | got your repos right an all depedencies installed then? |
| [17:57:54] | Quantum7: | Y as per your list above. |
| [17:58:20] | Quantum7: | O, I have the deb-multimedia but not the other you'd mentioned. |
| [17:58:32] | Quantum7: | oppserver |
| [17:59:56] | bas-t: | according to me, './configure --some-opts' is: http://pastebin.com/mDprSQ26 |
| [18:00:34] | Quantum7: | I'll try that. I'm using |
| [18:00:36] | Quantum7: | ./configure --enable-proc-opt --disable-firewire --disable-audio-oss --disable-hdhomerun --disable-ceton --disable-hdpvr |
| [18:00:46] | bas-t: | echo "deb http://debian.oppserver.net/xbmcvdr/ wheezy main non-free contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [18:00:46] | bas-t: | echo "deb-src http://debian.oppserver.net/xbmcvdr/ wheezy main non-free contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [18:00:58] | bas-t: | wget http://debian.oppserver.net/gpg-opp-signing-pubkey.asc -O – | apt-key add - |
| [18:01:10] | bas-t: | apt-get update |
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| [18:02:20] | bas-t: | apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [18:02:26] | Quantum7: | Nice n easy, thx. |
| [18:02:29] | bas-t: | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [18:02:56] | Quantum7: | A few missing on the build-dep |
| [18:03:05] | bas-t: | thougt so |
| [18:03:27] | Quantum7: | O, oppserver is xbmc. Not using that. |
| [18:03:47] | bas-t: | but it has updated libs that we use too |
| [18:04:10] | Vollstrecker: | ok, I got managed to scan using a channel.conf, many chans are found, I added them all, but when I want to edit the channellist, or just to set the start chan, not only one is displayed, is there anything I have to do in addition? |
| [18:05:35] | bas-t: | maybe not a lot, but when Wheezy becomes stable, you'll need it for sure |
| [18:06:00] | bas-t: | and that's in one or two months |
| [18:06:21] | bas-t: | you'll need backports too |
| [18:08:41] | Quantum7: | compiling... |
| [18:09:03] | Quantum7: | (with your config) |
| [18:10:05] | Quantum7: | Vollstrecker: This doesn't make sense: "not only one is displayed" |
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| [18:14:05] | Vollstrecker: | It displayed some chans after the scan and asked me to solve some conflicts, but back at conf for connecting a source, it still asks me to add channs to the source. |
| [18:14:39] | Quantum7: | Did you go through the save process? (I've forgotten exactly how that it) |
| [18:14:52] | bas-t: | ? |
| [18:15:09] | Quantum7: | (Next?) |
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| [18:15:27] | Quantum7: | Been years since I've done that. |
| [18:15:32] | bas-t: | what's next? i don't follow... |
| [18:15:48] | Quantum7: | O, trying to help Vollstrecker |
| [18:16:04] | bas-t: | ah.. |
| [18:16:25] | Quantum7: | Still compiling and we are well past the bad area. |
| [18:17:03] | bas-t: | I never have errors (knock wood) |
| [18:17:46] | Quantum7: | Looks like you're preading that 'disease'. Thank you bas-t. |
| [18:17:55] | Vollstrecker: | As I said, it asked to add them, then it asked me for resolving some conflicts, and at the end I just had to choice of abort, back and next. Next brought me back to the config-screen. |
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| [18:18:37] | Quantum7: | Vollstrecker: OK then what if you examine/edit the channels again? |
| [18:19:44] | Vollstrecker: | In just started a new scan, if you meant that. |
| [18:20:20] | Quantum7: | Well no. Finish that, save it, then go back and edit channels to see if they're still there. |
| [18:21:34] | Vollstrecker: | In the channel editor? There are only the ones from the dvb-t stick, not the ones from the dvb-c card that's just scanning. |
| [18:22:10] | Quantum7: | So, the ones you're having trouble with are for the dvb-c? |
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| [18:22:25] | Quantum7: | And some are conflicting with the stick? |
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| [18:26:25] | Vollstrecker: | Jep, dvb-c is the problem, I don't think I have time for a new scan today, but if it still fails after this scan, I try to remove the dvb-t stick and start with defaults and just the dvb-c card. |
| [18:27:17] | Quantum7: | Yes that was my next suggestion. If it still fails there is something wrong with the way you are saving. |
| [18:28:09] | Vollstrecker: | I didn't see any other way than clicking on next. |
| [18:28:24] | Quantum7: | next->next->finish |
| [18:31:31] | bas-t: | Quantum7: if you want to compile all the plugins too, you'll need even more packages. Do: 'apt-get install python-oauth libdate-manip-perl libxml-xpath-perl libimage-size-perl libdatetime-format-iso8601-perl libexif-dev dcraw libcdio-paranoia-dev libtag1-dev -y |
| [18:31:31] | bas-t: | ' . Next: 'cd .. && cd mythplugins && ./configure --prefix=usr' |
| [18:31:53] | Quantum7: | Astoundingly, still compiling... |
| [18:32:01] | bas-t: | sure |
| [18:32:12] | bas-t: | it'll take some time |
| [18:32:18] | Quantum7: | Never saw it take this long. |
| [18:32:34] | bas-t: | but it'll finish |
| [18:33:02] | Quantum7: | Agree. I have to go back and redo it though, as my prefix is /usr/local, for the local machine. |
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| [18:33:30] | Quantum7: | But I want to see this thing finish... |
| [18:33:58] | Quantum7: | Next time I can use -j 6 |
| [18:34:22] | bas-t: | just hit Ctrl +c and do 'git clean -xfd' |
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| [18:37:22] | bas-t: | from there you can start again, with an alternative config, or extra patches and so on... |
| [18:38:18] | Quantum7: | Recompiling... |
| [18:38:32] | Quantum7: | Many thanks for your help bas-t. |
| [18:38:51] | bas-t: | yopu are most welcome |
| [18:38:59] | bas-t: | *you |
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| [18:48:11] | jarle: | I'm trying to start mythwelcome as the user mythtv, but the X server is started as another user, how can I give the mythtv user access to the X server? |
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| [18:50:39] | Quantum7: | In your user .bashrc: xhost +local:mythtv |
| [18:51:32] | Quantum7: | In mythtv .bashrc: export XAUTHORITY=/home/{user}/.Xauthority |
| [18:52:25] | jarle: | Quantum7: thanx |
| [18:52:40] | Quantum7: | Yep |
| [18:52:49] | jarle: | Quantum7: "your user" == the user running X+ |
| [18:52:53] | jarle: | Quantum7: ? |
| [18:53:18] | Quantum7: | Y. You're exporting the X security cookie so Myth can run graphical. |
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| [19:05:44] | jarle: | Hmmm.... I start mythwelcome as user mythtv, mythwelcome the starts "sh -c /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend", as mythtv user, which results in "/usr/local/bin/mythfrontend" running as user jarle??? |
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| [19:06:04] | jarle: | what is happening here? |
| [19:06:36] | jarle: | I'm trying to get all mythtv processes to run as "mythtv", and mythwelcome/frontend is the one left... |
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| [19:12:04] | sphery: | jarle: how are you starting mythwelcome as user mythtv? is it from a proper login shell? |
| [19:12:36] | sphery: | i.e. starting from: sudo -u mythtv -i |
| [19:12:54] | sphery: | with the mythwelcome command (in the shell you get after) should work |
| [19:12:55] | jarle: | sphery: debugging this I have found the reason: I started mythwelcome as "jarle", but having it suid mythtv |
| [19:13:07] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [19:13:11] | jarle: | sphery: that did not do the trick, I had to login as mythtv... |
| [19:13:25] | sphery: | did you do sudo with -i? |
| [19:13:31] | sphery: | that should work fine |
| [19:13:41] | sphery: | it gives a full login shell |
| [19:14:04] | jarle: | sphery: I did not know that sudo usage... |
| [19:14:48] | jarle: | sphery: "sudo -u mythtv -i mythwelcome" as jarle should do the trick? |
| [19:14:59] | sphery: | yeah |
| [19:15:12] | jarle: | sphery: thnx.. |
| [19:15:55] | Vollstrecker: | Sorry, scan is at 68% trying to decrypt chan 30102 for 7 Minutes now, I got to go to work,. so I have to try again tomorrow. |
| [19:16:33] | jarle: | sphery: I set a new personal record with an average load of 100+ today because of mythlogserver, so I had to look into using just one user for all my prcesses... |
| [19:16:54] | sphery: | hehe |
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| [19:17:10] | sphery: | yeah, syslog logging is another option, which may be easier depending on your environment |
| [19:17:50] | jarle: | sphery: I was impressed that the shell was still responsive enough to let me kill the processes even at such a load :) |
| [19:18:10] | sphery: | I'm planning to put in a mythtvd (MythTV daemon runner) program that would start mythbackend and/or mythjobqueue and/or mythmediaserver and/or ... , depending on what's configured--and am going to try to get permission to have it start a mythlogserver process |
| [19:18:30] | sphery: | though that's 0.27 at the soonest |
| [19:18:36] | sphery: | (and that's if I get busy soon) |
| [19:18:57] | jarle: | sphery: I have all processes running as mythtv, except the frontend (until today) |
| [19:22:07] | bas-t: | Quantum7: what does 'preading' mean? (I'm not native english) |
| [19:26:51] | jams: | bas-t don't worry it's not a word |
| [19:28:06] | jarle: | argh, trying to get the frontend to run as mythtv instead of my normal system users opened a whole new can of worms.... no I am unable to access the audio for some reason.... (ALSA:spdif not available for this user) is there a simple fix? |
| [19:28:59] | sphery: | different ~/.asoundrc? |
| [19:31:16] | jarle: | sphery: meaning I should just try to copy .asoundrc from the user where audio is working? |
| [19:40:22] | Quantum7: | bas-t: (I meant 'spreading') |
| [19:40:30] | Korny: | hmm I've never had to use .ascoundrc unless I'm trying to get sound from other apps other then mythtv |
| [19:42:04] | Quantum7: | It completed the compile, but I hit the database schema problem. The database on the HTPC is 1310, but the frontend on my local machine wants 1307. |
| [19:42:55] | Quantum7: | The idea behind going back from 0.27 to 0.26 was to get away from niggling problems, but if I'm gitting the 0.26 nightly anyway... |
| [19:43:24] | Quantum7: | Source on mythtv.org doesn't compile, and I suppose that's stable. |
| [19:43:44] | Quantum7: | ... but I can't use it. |
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| [19:45:07] | Quantum7: | Is 0.27 essentially usable? Or will I get chastised here for using an 'experimental version'? |
| [19:45:26] | wagnerrp: | feel free to use it, that's why it's there |
| [19:45:33] | wagnerrp: | but understand it is an experimental version |
| [19:45:46] | wagnerrp: | and as such, anyone using it is supposed to have some degree of self sufficiency |
| [19:46:04] | Quantum7: | OK. Works pretty well, although a database schism. |
| [19:46:20] | Quantum7: | Delete a show... and it comes back from the Dead! |
| [19:47:47] | wagnerrp: | when you delete shows, they're not actually deleted |
| [19:47:51] | wagnerrp: | they're marked for deletion |
| [19:48:05] | Quantum7: | They remained in the Menu though. |
| [19:48:06] | wagnerrp: | by default, they will be culled during the next run of the autoexpire task |
| [19:48:14] | wagnerrp: | which happens at minimum every 15 minutes |
| [19:48:29] | wagnerrp: | is this in mythfrontend or mythweb? |
| [19:48:41] | Quantum7: | I had them carry over for days, but then the whole frontend hung. |
| [19:48:50] | ** Korny is not looking forward to going through his recording rules to change things :) ** | |
| [19:48:58] | Quantum7: | I restarted, and now shows seem to be deleting again. |
| [19:49:08] | wagnerrp: | change things for what? |
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| [19:49:23] | Quantum7: | mythfrontend |
| [19:49:32] | Korny: | I was reading the 0.27 wiki, aren't you changing some of the rules for recordings |
| [19:49:42] | wagnerrp: | no, korny... what would need to be changed? |
| [19:49:46] | Korny: | Like getting rid of channel record(although using a filter to do the same thing) |
| [19:50:01] | Korny: | Or did I miss understand taht |
| [19:50:02] | wagnerrp: | oh, not sure about that |
| [19:50:17] | wagnerrp: | however it's typically not recommended to use "single channel" rules |
| [19:50:27] | wagnerrp: | better to just let the scheduler do its thing |
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| [19:51:04] | sphery: | all your recording rules will be updated appropriately in the database upgrade |
| [19:51:05] | wagnerrp: | usually the only reason people end up using single channel rules is because it's easier on the scheduler, and they have an underpowered master backend |
| [19:51:21] | Korny: | Yeah I'm lazy, I could define I only want HD |
| [19:51:29] | Korny: | I use it mainly to keep form recording on SD channels |
| [19:51:31] | Korny: | Remove the Channel Record recording rule type. Add a This channel filter to maintain the that functionality. Automatically convert existing Channel Record rules to All Record rules with the This channel filter enabled. Full details of this and the next two 'sub bullets' at: [9497ba1], [030ba69] |
| [19:51:52] | sphery: | Korny: if you don't want to record from SDTV channels, why do you have SDTV channels defined? |
| [19:52:11] | Korny: | sphery, to be honest.... my wife |
| [19:52:22] | sphery: | "Automatically convert existing Channel Record rules..." |
| [19:52:34] | sphery: | she wants SDTV channels? |
| [19:52:44] | sphery: | I'm assuming these are dups of channels you get in HDTV format, right? |
| [19:52:49] | Korny: | yes |
| [19:52:58] | Korny: | She has a small TV in her sewing room |
| [19:53:06] | Korny: | HD looks really funky on it |
| [19:53:14] | Korny: | Its not a big deal |
| [19:53:19] | wagnerrp: | SD is rarely anything but scaled and cropped HD |
| [19:53:40] | Quantum7: | Well take that woman by the scruff of the neck and show her who's boss! |
| [19:53:49] | Korny: | pfff or buy her a new tv |
| [19:54:12] | wagnerrp: | i expect she's the boss |
| [19:54:20] | Korny: | Aren't they usually? |
| [19:54:20] | sphery: | or just get a 21" widescreen LCD monitor for ~$100 – $140 to hook to that frontend |
| [19:54:34] | sphery: | (actually, you can probably get up to 24" for $140) |
| [19:54:54] | Korny: | OR get a 27" monitor for me and give her my 22" secondary |
| [19:55:34] | sphery: | where I'm assuming you'd get a 1920x1080 monitor |
| [19:55:50] | Korny: | actually I'D love to find a 1920x1200 |
| [19:55:53] | Korny: | like my 24" |
| [19:56:00] | Korny: | but they get really expensive |
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| [19:56:30] | sphery: | well, in this one case--for TV--16:9 is actually better than 16:10 |
| [19:56:47] | Korny: | Yes it is, but my secondary is a 16:9 |
| [19:56:49] | wagnerrp: | of course, what would anyone ever do with those extra 120 pixels? it's already full hd, you can't get any fuller than full! |
| [19:56:50] | sphery: | I love 16:10 for computers, but 16:9 for TV fits well |
| [19:56:52] | Korny: | I want a 16:10 to replace it |
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| [19:57:51] | Korny: | wagnerrp, I know you're being sarcastic, but the biggest reason for me is being able to edit documents side by side |
| [19:58:24] | wagnerrp: | how does more vertical space allow that? |
| [19:58:31] | Korny: | scales better |
| [19:58:47] | wagnerrp: | don't get me wrong, i would much rather have a WUXGA monitor on my computer than a "FullHD" one |
| [19:58:52] | wagnerrp: | but what you said doesn't really make sense |
| [19:58:58] | Korny: | But I'm off to grab my son :) |
| [19:59:26] | sphery: | documents side by side do scale (or fit) better on 16:10 |
| [19:59:40] | sphery: | but 16:9 TV fits better on 16:9 monitor |
| [20:00:01] | sphery: | (otherwise you'd have to letterbox it--unless you want to stretch people) |
| [20:00:39] | neufeld: | I do use channel-record rules in some cases. Shows that have the same name in English as in French (i.e. Fringe, X-Files), I pick a few English channels to record with channel-record rules. I don't want a high priority recording on a French channel, of an episode I saw last season in English, to displace a lower-priority English channel that I'm watching now, but I do sometimes want to watch shows from the French |
| [20:00:39] | neufeld: | channels so I don't remove them from the listings. Or, if there's a show in syndication, like the Simpsons, I want to watch new episodes or ones that I missed two months earlier because some football game ran late and bumped the show, but I don't want the scheduler to pick up the 200+ distinct airings of older episodes I haven't watched on MythTV, on 20+ English and French channels going back decades, so I set |
| [20:00:39] | neufeld: | time-slot-and-channel recording rules on a few Global and Fox channels where I know they won't put on an episode from 15 years ago. |
| [20:00:45] | wagnerrp: | yikes... |
| [20:01:35] | sphery: | neufeld: if you want higher priority for the new episodes, you should say so with a "new episodes" or "exclude repeats" rule |
| [20:02:04] | sphery: | and if you also want to occasionally record repeats, you could do a second recording rule for it that has lower priority |
| [20:02:24] | neufeld: | sphery: does "new episodes" work when it's an episode that it thought it had recorded, but failed because of a sporting event, so I'm catching it in reruns over the following summer? |
| [20:02:50] | sphery: | new episodes works whenever the listings say the first showing was within 2 weeks |
| [20:03:02] | sphery: | (original air date) |
| [20:03:42] | sphery: | as for the 200+ distinct airings of older episodes, either new episodes or--my preference--just tell MythTV which ones you've seen |
| [20:03:45] | neufeld: | sphery: OK, so that won't work for this pattern, when an episode was bumped, it's typically the Christmas break or the summer before it comes back into view. |
| [20:04:10] | sphery: | I taught MythTV which Simpsons episodes I saw before MythTV, by using Never Record |
| [20:04:17] | sphery: | and that was a /lot/ of episodes |
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| [20:04:55] | sphery: | and, yeah, that's the benefit of teaching mythtv which ones you've seen |
| [20:04:57] | neufeld: | sphery: yeah, I used to do that for some shows, hitting "never record" on entire blocks of shows, but that's more labour-intensive than my solution, where I basically choose timeslots and channels that I know show only "fairly recent" episodes. |
| [20:05:05] | sphery: | basically, it can only work with what information you give it |
| [20:05:15] | sphery: | so, the more/better info you give it, the better it works |
| [20:05:39] | sphery: | and timeslot is very fragile because it requires an exactly-identical start and end time |
| [20:06:01] | sphery: | I'd bet your approach causes you more failures and/or work than mine |
| [20:06:10] | kmc_: | hi all, I hope somesone can help... I have two,working mythtv installations. Channels are tuned in and I can watch them.... but if i go to my slave pc, run mythtv-setup, and point the master server at the correct IP, I can't watch TV... It just never plays anything. |
| [20:06:11] | neufeld: | sphery: naturally, I can certainly do that for that case, and for the French/English name collisions, but it does mean I have to babysit the scheduler a lot. |
| [20:06:37] | sphery: | and for some shows, where I don't feel like Never Record'ing episodes, I just let it record, then I delete them every once in a while |
| [20:06:55] | sphery: | that's the least work |
| [20:07:15] | sphery: | any channel/all episodes, then clean up ones you've seen occasionally |
| [20:07:23] | kmc_: | I have the backedn log from the master server at the time... there are no errors apparent |
| [20:10:08] | neufeld: | sphery: I understand, I'm just pointing out my particular use cases for channel record (I do use it sparingly), and how it reduces the amount of hand-holding of the scheduler. |
| [20:12:11] | sphery: | neufeld: yes, but generally, it's a hack that's used rather than using the proper scheduling criteria--so the move is to try to a) make things simpler for users and b) get users to properly specify the criteria for their rules |
| [20:12:33] | sphery: | i.e. "this channel" assumes that there will never be a repeat on that channel |
| [20:12:43] | sphery: | or whatever |
| [20:12:58] | sphery: | so if you want to avoid the repeats/old episodes, use a new episode filter |
| [20:13:22] | sphery: | that said, there's still the same capability--it's just implemented differently to make it easier |
| [20:13:26] | sphery: | (for the user) |
| [20:13:33] | sphery: | it's now a filter instead of a rule type |
| [20:13:41] | sphery: | because there's no reason for it to be a whole type of rule |
| [20:13:50] | sphery: | (i.e. a filter just like the new episodes filter) |
| [20:14:07] | sphery: | so, in putting it in the proper place, users are more likely to find the filters they /should/ be using |
| [20:14:33] | sphery: | (we don't need a "this channel" rule type for the same reason we don't need a "new episodes only" rule type--because that's not a type of rule, but a filter on what matches) |
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| [20:14:58] | sphery: | and, again, users don't have to worry about anything, as all their rules will be converted, so if they were using hacks before, the hacks will be converted :) |
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| [20:16:14] | neufeld: | sphery: Heh. Is there going to be a custom filter rule? Something like "custom user filter 1", with a check mark, that invokes a user-supplied SQL operation? I could use that to filter out the French-language channels for some recordings. |
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| [20:43:51] | clever: | neufeld: i would just delete the french channels entirely |
| [20:43:57] | clever: | so it never even knows they exist |
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| [20:47:29] | neufeld: | clever: but I watch shows on the French channels. I just don't watch English shows I've already seen, dubbed into French. Some shows have exactly the same name in French as in English, particularly when they're also names of people/places: Nikita, Merlin, Sinbad, Dallas, ... And when a show has a high priority in English, it also has a high priority in French, so the French showing, which I won't watch, might |
| [20:47:29] | neufeld: | bump away a recording of a different English or French show that otherwise would record in that spot. |
| [20:47:43] | clever: | neufeld: ah |
| [20:49:32] | justinh: | oo this is gonna be a whole new learning experience... got me my very own VPS |
| [20:49:53] | clever: | justinh: step one, install myth! :D |
| [20:52:41] | justinh: | lol |
| [20:53:28] | clever: | step 2: complain that your hoster wont put a capture card in! |
| [20:53:42] | justinh: | yeah well, it's going to be interesting, doing virtual hosts & pointing domains at em |
| [20:54:00] | clever: | :) |
| [20:56:00] | justinh: | I've decided this is going to be better in the long run than having to look after 3 or more sites on different hosts & shelling out for a reseller-type account |
| [20:56:08] | justinh: | how hard can it be? :-) |
| [20:59:53] | clever: | i find cacti helps a lot, set it up on one host and graph stats from every other host |
| [21:00:49] | justinh: | you gotta set the thing up first |
| [21:00:56] | clever: | yeah |
| [21:01:00] | justinh: | I wish DNS records propagated faster |
| [21:01:10] | clever: | NS or A records? |
| [21:01:56] | justinh: | Added an A record pointed at the server |
| [21:02:17] | clever: | generaly, adding records is instant, if the slave dns servers are setup right |
| [21:02:26] | clever: | changing takes longer |
| [21:05:04] | justinh: | figures |
| [21:05:29] | justinh: | last time I moved a domain to a new company it took a good 2 days |
| [21:05:49] | clever: | for any change done on the master, its instant, when things are setup right, it will push that to the slave dns servers |
| [21:06:11] | clever: | if its not done 'right' (or lacks support), the slaves poll the master (at an interval set in the SOA record), then they update |
| [21:06:31] | clever: | after that, its all up to the caches at every ISP, which obviously wont have it for a new record |
| [21:06:35] | justinh: | spent a few hours last night trying to fix a page not showing properly in Chrome. turned out to be my adblocker.. and the PrestaShop module calling the image advertising_custom.jpg |
| [21:06:46] | clever: | and if they do have it, its based on your TTL in the record you just changed |
| [21:06:58] | justinh: | don't think I can change the TTL |
| [21:07:05] | clever: | which dns host? |
| [21:07:11] | justinh: | 34sp.com |
| [21:07:17] | clever: | never heard of them |
| [21:07:34] | clever: | ive been using amazon lately, and the dns is pretty cheap, 50 cents/month + 50 cents/million queries |
| [21:07:39] | justinh: | local company |
| [21:08:09] | justinh: | I could always set up bind on my VPS, then point everything on my domain to that.. but er... |
| [21:08:27] | clever: | ive done that, but it tends to be a pain |
| [21:08:27] | justinh: | that'd be getting way OT LOL |
| [21:08:36] | clever: | more effort then its worth |
| [21:09:04] | justinh: | yeah and I guess my own DNS would be so far down the food chain that any changes would take even longer to propagate |
| [21:09:20] | clever: | nope |
| [21:09:30] | clever: | but you are required to have atleast 2 servers |
| [21:09:58] | justinh: | ah |
| [21:10:00] | clever: | once the change propagates to both, its purely based on the TTL you set, doesnt matter where you are on the chain |
| [21:10:03] | justinh: | sack that idea then |
| [21:10:56] | clever: | if the TTL is set to 48h, then any ISP that caches it can save it for up to 48h from when they first got it |
| [21:11:14] | clever: | and any downstream caches from that, will cache it for less (based on how old the cache entry was) |
| [21:11:35] | clever: | so EVERY cache will expire it 48h from the initial hit on your server |
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| [21:12:49] | justinh: | well, looks like I've done ok so far.. just need the A record to get to me & I can start playing with a vhost |
| [21:13:11] | clever: | if its only for testing, /etc/hosts |
| [21:13:30] | justinh: | oh god I forgot about that |
| [21:13:52] | jams: | or set /etc/resolv.conf to point to your DNS server |
| [21:13:57] | jams: | to make sure it's really working |
| [21:14:23] | clever: | jams: that would likely break all other domains, simpler to use dig example.com @ns1.example.com |
| [21:14:54] | jams: | it would but he is just testing |
| [21:14:59] | jams: | so it doesn't make a difference |
| [21:15:44] | clever: | then google wont work, so you cant find out how to fix a problem with the setup! |
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| [21:23:11] | justinh: | whoah that was easier than I thought |
| [21:23:20] | justinh: | who needs all that cpanel crap anyway? |
| [21:25:11] | clever: | i dont! |
| [21:25:24] | clever: | more often, it just gets in the way, more so when i lack root |
| [21:25:32] | justinh: | they charge a fortune for all that control panel stuff, too |
| [21:25:43] | clever: | one hoster configured the max requests too high, any kind of load and it would get bogged down in swap |
| [21:25:50] | clever: | and support would say to get more ram |
| [21:25:57] | justinh: | like the VPS with 50GB space, 512MB RAM is like £10 a month.. the control panel would double that |
| [21:26:00] | clever: | they up the ram, and max clients, so it still does the same thing! |
| [21:27:19] | sphery: | neufeld: ideally you'd do the patch to allow us to store language information, as provided by EIT or XMLTV, in the listings, so it would be easy to filter on language (see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/537136#537136 ) |
| [21:27:56] | sphery: | but if a custom rule works (i.e. if it's munged into the description or something), custom filter would be the right solution for now |
| [21:28:06] | sphery: | er, custom rule |
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| [21:31:35] | justinh: | well well well. that's two domains on my server running nicelu |
| [21:31:38] | justinh: | nicely, even |
| [21:31:49] | justinh: | now.. mail. never bothered with mail in my life |
| [21:32:34] | justinh: | been utterly disgusted today, with all the cheap hosts saying £4.99 per month, now with 500 mailboxes" but if you want email to go to YOUR domain it's another £2.99 |
| [21:32:56] | clever: | one of the cheaper hosts i used, would not let you do virtual hosting |
| [21:32:58] | justinh: | so I figured I might as well do my own hosting on a hired server |
| [21:33:10] | clever: | if you wanted a second domain, you had to pay twice as much |
| [21:33:19] | clever: | even if it already had a dedicated ip and vm |
| [21:33:21] | justinh: | I think this might be one of the better uses of virtualisation |
| [21:34:43] | neufeld: | sphery: is the language data in the SchedulesDirect feed, and ignored for populating the database? I don't see an obvious field for language of audio in the 'program' table. |
| [21:36:36] | sphery: | neufeld: right, there's no support for storing language in MythTV listings |
| [21:36:50] | sphery: | if it's in your listings provider's data, it should be added to MythTV |
| [21:37:33] | sphery: | I don't know if Schedules Direct includes it, but I'm guessing there are XMLTV and EIT places that do (meaning we should support storing it), and wouldn't be surprised if SD has it |
| [21:37:59] | sphery: | use tv_grab_na_dd to grab raw SD data and look at it to see if language is specified |
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| [21:40:36] | kisak: | good day #mythtv-users, I am in need of some assistance |
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| [21:42:48] | kisak: | I have recently bumped my mythtv version to 0.26.0 and one frontend works as expected with the network remote control bits, but the second one does not. Upon inspection of the startup in the terminal, it is listening on localhost ipv4/6 and on eth0 ipv6 but not ipv4 |
| [21:43:00] | kisak: | (for port 6546) |
| [21:43:18] | kisak: | I do not know how to proceed |
| [21:44:17] | sphery: | IIRC, you have to give both an ipv4 and an ipv6 address for "this backend" IP address to have it listen on both |
| [21:44:30] | sphery: | you seem to have told it just ipv6 (or neither?) |
| [21:45:07] | kisak: | config.xml? |
| [21:45:53] | kisak: | the frontend's config.xml contains only the ipv4 address |
| [21:46:05] | kisak: | (to find the backend) |
| [21:46:10] | sphery: | no, mythtv-setup |
| [21:47:31] | neufeld: | sphery: There doesn't appear to be any language information in the listings I get from tv_grab_na_dd |
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| [21:48:00] | sphery: | neufeld: did you pull raw DataDirect format (rather than have it convert to XMLTV format)? |
| [21:48:53] | sphery: | neufeld: also, I'm guessing you're in Canada, right? (based on having French language broadcasts and using SD) |
| [21:48:55] | neufeld: | sphery: I don't know, I just ran with --configure, then with --output <FILE>. Is there another switch? |
| [21:49:15] | neufeld: | sphery: correct, I'm in Eastern Ontario. |
| [21:50:40] | kisak: | sphery: deleting the local backend information fixed the behavior, thank you very much |
| [21:50:51] | neufeld: | sphery: OK, "-dd-data" is for output, I thought it was to operate on a downloaded file. I'm re-running now. |
| [21:51:04] | sphery: | yeah, that sounds right |
| [21:53:32] | neufeld: | sphery: yeah, still nothing relevant in the raw program data, and the channel data header doesn't indicate that a particular channel broadcasts in one or the other language. |
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| [21:56:03] | neufeld: | sphery: so, short of writing a language recognizer that scans the program names on a given channel and scores them for French or English words, then declares that, for any channel which shows "many" French shows, they're all in French, I don't see any easy handle to grasp for this. |
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| [22:02:11] | neufeld: | sphery: I think it'd be easier to create "language groups" for channels, in the manner of favourite channels. The user would gather the channels into groups, then we'd filter on a particular group. For simplicity, maybe just a group called "preferred channels", then a filter that says "use only preferred channels" for a particular recording rule. |
| [22:03:25] | neufeld: | sphery: my particular use case, French vs English, it's easy to scan titles for languages. "Le/La/L'" vs. "The", scoring up the results, should be clear, but I doubt that's a general solution for people in other multi-language areas. |
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| [22:09:30] | justinh: | good grief, I need to change the way mythtv logs here |
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| [22:13:06] | justinh: | aaand my backend has fallen over |
| [22:14:00] | justinh: | GRRR> service mythtv-backend stop.. and it's still going all over the place |
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| [22:15:35] | justinh: | how can the init/upstart stuff lose track of processes so? |
| [22:15:39] | justinh: | anyway.. MEH |
| [22:16:04] | justinh: | nothing a good ole kill couldn't sort out, and 2 'B' recordings my wife can live without anyway |
| [22:16:15] | justinh: | but that logfile stuff is CRAZT |
| [22:16:18] | justinh: | CRAZY even |
| [22:16:59] | skd5aner: | justinh: I've found that for whatever erason, I now have to kill things off twice for them to take effort... |
| [22:17:14] | skd5aner: | frontend, backend, both |
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| [22:18:06] | skd5aner: | I have a suspicion it has someting to do with unannouncing the bonjour stuff |
| [22:18:13] | skd5aner: | since it tries to do that at shutdown |
| [22:18:36] | skd5aner: | I have to do a service mythbackend stop twice, or a killall myth______ twice |
| [22:18:43] | skd5aner: | started after 0.26 |
| [22:19:17] | justinh: | I don't even know HOW more than one mythbackend process ends up running |
| [22:19:29] | justinh: | I turned off the silly respawning schiz |
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| [22:19:56] | justinh: | me & ubuntu are seriously going to part ways quite soon. terminally |
| [22:20:05] | justinh: | frontend is already not ubuntu |
| [22:20:15] | justinh: | backend needs more work so I've been putting it off |
| [22:26:37] | skd5aner: | meh – works for me |
| [22:26:58] | skd5aner: | ubuntu is frequently not the cause of my issues... |
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| [22:33:58] | tgm4883: | justinh, is it just the issue of multiple running backend processes? |
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| [22:47:26] | sphery: | neufeld_AFK: thanks for checking--it's good to at least know that SD doesn't provide that data |
| [22:48:01] | sphery: | neufeld_AFK: also, you can just make your own language groups for channels and create rules that use the appropriate channel group |
| [22:48:32] | sphery: | i.e. a language group of channels is just a channel group whose definition is "channels with a language similarity" :) |
| [22:49:07] | sphery: | I was really hoping for a better solution, though, since not all programming on some channels uses the same language |
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| [22:56:22] | Oleg_: | Hi, why the hell does mythfrontend keep crashing? |
| [22:56:25] | Oleg_: | Look at this: |
| [22:56:36] | Oleg_: | Qt has caught an exception thrown from an event handler. Throwing |
| [22:56:36] | Oleg_: | exceptions from an event handler is not supported in Qt. You must |
| [22:56:36] | Oleg_: | reimplement QApplication::notify() and catch all exceptions there. |
| [22:56:54] | Oleg_: | why can't software just work? |
| [22:57:45] | Oleg_: | Updating c86a3d7..3587b82 |
| [22:57:46] | Oleg_: | Fast-forward |
| [22:57:46] | Oleg_: | mythtv/libs/libmythtv/videooutwindow.cpp | 15 +++++++++++++++ |
| [22:57:46] | Oleg_: | mythtv/libs/libmythtv/videooutwindow.h | 1 + |
| [22:57:55] | Oleg_: | any exciting changes were made in those 2 files? |
| [23:00:00] | Oleg_: | folks? |
| [23:00:02] | Oleg_: | anybody? |
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| [23:09:42] | tgm4883: | sphery, so I remember the other question I had for you regarding schedules. Programs have a 0 status for recording indicating Unknown. Does that just mean it isn't scheduled to record (or rather, doesn't match any rules)? |
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| [23:12:15] | runelind: | What's the easiest way to stream a recording over a 2mbit connection to a laptop or IOS device? |
| [23:12:18] | jpabq: | tgm4883: I though 'O' stood for "other recording"? That happens when mythtv thinks you have two channels showing the exact same show at the same time. |
| [23:12:41] | tgm4883: | jpabq, that is a zero, not an O |
| [23:12:57] | jpabq: | Ah |
| [23:13:23] | tgm4883: | jpabq, from RECSTATUS on https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . TV/static.py |
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