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| [01:41:03] | monkeypet69: | hi all, i wanted to cut commercials from a recording, I have a transcoding rule called "lossless". However, I don't see it when I watch the recording, menu -> jobs -> begin transcoding. |
| [01:41:25] | monkeypet69: | i see autodetect, high, low, medium. |
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| [01:58:22] | Shadow__X: | monkeypet69: go to edit video and hit z to enable the flagged commercials |
| [01:58:56] | Shadow__X: | then go through the recording to make sure the commercial detection was accurate then exit with the flags saved then go transcoding auto detect |
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| [03:02:33] | tonsofpcs: | I really need a frontend in another room for live tv (ATSC)... suggestions? or will DLNA support live tv soon? |
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| [03:06:48] | tonsofpcs: | also, is there any way I can extend a recording in-progress from mythweb that's part of a channel schedule? |
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| [05:02:51] | Oleg_: | I am getting this error when try to compile 0.26-fixes version: |
| [05:02:54] | Oleg_: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.26.so: undefined reference to `dvdnav_get_highlight_area_from_group' |
| [05:04:29] | Oleg_: | good night |
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| [10:57:13] | p1ngb4ck: | Hi everybody ! I am using mythtv on gentoo, installed via MythTV Gentoo Git Repo. Then I just installed Win7-Mythfrontend, which updated the db-schema from 1306 to 1307, which now made my gentoo backend stop working (still expects 1306). Any hints? |
| [11:00:03] | p1ngb4ck: | please help, I am going onpanic ;D system worked fine after weeks of configuring (using softcam with Sky-PayTV etc etc).. |
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| [11:06:49] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp : any chance to see more up2date ebuild for 0.26 on gentoo soon ? |
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| [11:16:20] | toeb: | p1ngb4ck: it should have created a db backup befor updating, use it and the backend should start again. |
| [11:16:29] | toeb: | or upgrade your backend |
| [11:17:12] | p1ngb4ck: | toeb : I would like to update the backend, since there is no other prebuilt binary for mythfrontend on Win7 than the one I am using |
| [11:17:32] | p1ngb4ck: | but no chance to get up2date ebuild for gentoo as it seems, looking for it for a while now |
| [11:26:10] | p1ngb4ck: | toeb : going back to 0.25.3 now :(((( |
| [11:35:33] | toeb: | p1ngb4ck: you could simply compile it from source until it gets available |
| [11:36:15] | p1ngb4ck: | toeb : well I could .. but I massively dislike |
| [11:36:28] | p1ngb4ck: | even more than switching back to 0.25.3 |
| [11:36:46] | toeb: | IIRC the gentoo repo contains a scrip to update the ebuild |
| [11:40:00] | p1ngb4ck: | toeb : oh, thats something I didnt notice before, will have a look as soon as I am back, need to care for my baby son now =) |
| [11:40:11] | p1ngb4ck: | thanks a lot for the info |
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| [13:54:28] | kvarley: | Can anybody recommend a good dual DVB-S2 card that works flawlessly in Linux? UK availability please. |
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| [14:05:50] | p1ngb4ck: | any german user here that uses Sky with MythTV? wondering how I could possibly manually add Sky – Bundesliga channels the most eöegant way, which were not found during scan |
| [14:05:59] | p1ngb4ck: | *elegant |
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| [14:07:07] | Peps: | kvarley, i use a TBS6984 which is a quad tuner card. they do a dual one. Does compiling the drivers from source still count as working flawlessly in your opinion? |
| [14:07:42] | kvarley: | Peps: Yes. I don't mind having to compile stuff, I just need it to work without any problems after that. |
| [14:07:54] | kvarley: | Peps: Can I use the quad card with only 2 feeds? |
| [14:08:10] | Peps: | kvarley: yeah, im only using 3 |
| [14:08:30] | Peps: | kvarley, tbs6981 < dual |
| [14:09:00] | kvarley: | Peps: The house has 4 but 2 are used for Sky HD and 2 for standard def Sky+. I'm going to be using the feeds from the regular sky+ box but if it goes well then skyhd could go too |
| [14:09:36] | kvarley: | Peps: What TV do you receive with it? I'm in the UK so I would be doing Freesat HD. |
| [14:09:55] | p1ngb4ck: | btw if anybody interested : I managed to get sasc-ng softcam wrapper to work on amd64 gentoo just fine now |
| [14:10:16] | p1ngb4ck: | with 3.6.11 kernel |
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| [14:10:49] | Peps: | kvarley, in the UK, you'll only be able to receive the FTA channels available on freesat. getting your subscription channels to work with it is a legal grey area and im sure im not at liberty to discus it here |
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| [14:11:31] | kvarley: | Peps: I thought Freesat was all FTA? I assumed it was just Sky that provided non-FTA channels? |
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| [14:12:24] | Peps: | kvarley, thats right, you mentioned it possibly replacing a skyhd box. It won't get the sky channels but will get all the freesat ones |
| [14:13:13] | kvarley: | Peps: Ah ok good, I thought you were saying only some freesat channels were FTA :) I know that I won't be able to access Sky channels so for now I'm keeping my Sky HD subscription and am trailing Freesat HD to see if I actually need the Sky box at all. |
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| [14:17:03] | p1ngb4ck: | kvarley : Peps is completely right about it being a legal greyzone, but as long as you have a valid subscription, nobody *should/will* sue you for using a softcam to use a 2nd device in your own home .. as long as it doesnt leave the LAN ;D |
| [14:17:42] | kvarley: | p1ngb4ck: Ah ok, thank you for the info |
| [14:17:56] | Seeker`: | it is still a legal greyzone though |
| [14:18:23] | kvarley: | Can you set a DVB-S2 card to output over coaxial? |
| [14:20:03] | p1ngb4ck: | kvarley : I have a dreambox receiver with my SC inserted act as a server for my media-center-backend running on my homeserver, which just has a simple Tevii USB Card plugged .. I then use different frontends on all my devices (laptop connected to TV/ PCs/ Android Tablet |
| [14:20:37] | kvarley: | p1ngb4ck: SC? |
| [14:20:41] | p1ngb4ck: | smartcard |
| [14:21:18] | kvarley: | So your dreambox is the thing connected to the satellite dish? |
| [14:21:21] | p1ngb4ck: | youz dont stream the decoded video stream with a softcam, but you "share" your card between the devices, each device uzsing its own tv-tuner |
| [14:21:22] | Peps: | kvarley, if youre talking about outputting the video to coaxial, then that'd be a function of your graphics card, you could try using a gpu that outputs to s-video, and then use an svideo to coaxial adapter? |
| [14:22:05] | kvarley: | It's just because currently the house is only wired with coax |
| [14:22:26] | p1ngb4ck: | use wireless =P.. HD works fine from n150 on |
| [14:22:30] | kvarley: | So ideally the box I'm building could output via coax to the existing TVs and then any HD capable devices would connect via ethernet |
| [14:22:39] | p1ngb4ck: | if your house is too big, set up a nrepeater |
| [14:23:02] | Seeker`: | heh. Not sure about 'fine' |
| [14:23:08] | kvarley: | p1ngb4ck: I was planning on buying Raspberry Pis for each TV and connect via ethernet to it |
| [14:23:12] | Seeker`: | As long as you're not running anything at decent HD quality |
| [14:23:33] | p1ngb4ck: | Seeker : lol ? full-HD 1920x1080 |
| [14:23:40] | Seeker`: | p1ngb4ck: at what bitrate? |
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| [14:23:53] | Seeker`: | 1080p is useless if it is only 1 bit/ second :P |
| [14:24:03] | p1ngb4ck: | didnt test over 12MBit/s |
| [14:24:10] | p1ngb4ck: | think thats enough |
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| [14:24:22] | Peps: | in my house, the wifi signal wont reach all corners of the house. i use devolo plugs (http://www.devolo.co.uk/) to connect my master backend to my network |
| [14:24:41] | p1ngb4ck: | Peps : those are fine yes |
| [14:24:45] | wagnerrp: | p1ngb4ck: softcams are a banned topic on this channel, please do not discuss them |
| [14:25:13] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp : okay, sorry didnt see that before, should have had a look first sorry |
| [14:25:14] | Seeker`: | p1ngb4ck: Not really. Thats about the same as the maximum from a DVD |
| [14:25:19] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp : i will |
| [14:25:31] | p1ngb4ck: | stop discussing that topic |
| [14:25:51] | Seeker`: | p1ngb4ck: Thats 5x the number of pixels, but with no more data per frame |
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| [14:28:38] | wagnerrp: | kvarley: RPis are currently not an option for mythtv, as mythtv does not support the hardware decoder on them, and they do not have enough power to do software decoding |
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| [14:36:16] | kvarley: | wagnerrp: I was going to run XBMC on them so it would be able to hardware decode the stream |
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| [14:36:41] | wagnerrp: | sure, but even XBMC struggles a bit on that little power and memory |
| [14:37:03] | wagnerrp: | remember, you're talking about something the performance of a low end Pentium II |
| [14:37:13] | kvarley: | wagnerrp: It runs smoothly locally tho and can play 1080p x264 via openelec |
| [14:37:33] | wagnerrp: | if you've tested it, go for it |
| [14:37:50] | kvarley: | I haven't tried networked playback yet |
| [14:37:55] | kvarley: | Other than that I know it's capable |
| [14:38:00] | kvarley: | I will have to setup some tests |
| [14:38:08] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp : will there be up2date gentoo ebuilds for 0.26 any time soon ;D ? had to downgrade to 0.25.3 today, because I want to use mythfrontend on windows.. and only precompiled one for windows works with db-scheme 3007, while 0.26 ebuild from mythtv git works with 3006 .. wasnt able to upgrade manually :S |
| [14:38:42] | wagnerrp: | i thought the official ebuilds from gentoo had been getting updated |
| [14:38:57] | p1ngb4ck: | only 0.25.3 stable :S |
| [14:39:28] | wagnerrp: | i've been holding off updating the mythtv packages until i have something to automatically generate them, test compile, and update |
| [14:39:37] | wagnerrp: | tied into mythtv's buildbot system |
| [14:40:33] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp : I see, thank you ! |
| [14:47:08] | p1ngb4ck: | do you know whether eit over dvb works with channels that were imported from a channels.conf now ? didnt manage to find my sky-bundesliga channels yet using mythtv scan |
| [14:47:46] | wagnerrp: | no, EIT only works with channels scanned by mythtv |
| [14:49:24] | p1ngb4ck: | okay thanks |
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| [15:23:55] | runelind: | wow mythweb is slow ;p |
| [15:24:04] | runelind: | or, my server needs more megahurts |
| [15:24:23] | wagnerrp: | slow in what regard? |
| [15:24:36] | runelind: | just going through the listings |
| [15:24:43] | runelind: | if I search, it usually times out. |
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| [15:24:52] | runelind: | mysql is going nuts |
| [15:25:08] | wagnerrp: | searching shouldn't time out, but viewing the listings page is typically fairly slow |
| [15:25:32] | wagnerrp: | just remember the volume of data that is being processed and rendered though |
| [15:25:50] | runelind: | yeah |
| [15:25:51] | Seeker`: | I keep on getting timeouts etc on my mythweb too |
| [15:25:58] | wagnerrp: | and it's not just a simple query, it's merging data from backend and database |
| [15:26:14] | runelind: | I wonder if adding a SSD to my ZFS array would help db queries like that. |
| [15:26:38] | wagnerrp: | as a L2ARC, very likely |
| [15:26:53] | wagnerrp: | since most of the information should stay cached in the SSD for immediate access |
| [15:27:21] | wagnerrp: | have you actually done any tuning for mysql itself? or are you running the stock settings? |
| [15:27:31] | runelind: | just the stock settings. |
| [15:27:37] | wagnerrp: | this is freebsd? |
| [15:27:41] | runelind: | aye |
| [15:27:57] | runelind: | 9.1 |
| [15:28:10] | wagnerrp: | yeah, freebsd uses _no_ settings, so mysql falls back to its compiled in defaults, which are quite poor |
| [15:28:25] | wagnerrp: | take a look at some of the my.cnf examples that were packaged with mysqld |
| [15:29:15] | wagnerrp: | should be in /usr/local/share/mysql |
| [15:29:37] | wagnerrp: | i think i'm running my-large.cnf, with a number of the values halved |
| [15:30:07] | wagnerrp: | note that your mysql memory consumption will go up considerably |
| [15:30:17] | runelind: | yeah, and I'm already low on gigarams. |
| [15:30:25] | runelind: | my system has 8GB total. |
| [15:30:34] | runelind: | and ZFS wants a lot of that. |
| [15:30:51] | wagnerrp: | zfs wants everything spare you've got |
| [15:31:03] | wagnerrp: | if something else is already using it, zfs will just use less |
| [15:31:20] | runelind: | I also think disk access is probably pretty slow on my box |
| [15:31:27] | runelind: | 12 disk ZFS array |
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| [15:32:15] | runelind: | 3 4-disk raidz1 vdevs |
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| [15:39:58] | justinh: | don't run mythtv's database on a raspberry Pi :-P |
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| [15:42:46] | p1ngb4ck: | does anybody have a nice german scan file for me perhaps where Sky BuLi 1–10 channels were found ? they seem to be inactive right now .. |
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| [15:52:42] | p1ngb4ck: | solved it myself .. wondered how I found them once .. just forgot to scan for anny channeltype, because Sky BuLi + Select Feeds are being recognised as radio channels since they are inactive most of the time ;D |
| [15:54:18] | p1ngb4ck: | are there any plugins for mythtv that I could use for these TV-Channels with optional feeds? |
| [15:54:35] | p1ngb4ck: | or even basic behaviour I am not aware of right now ? |
| [16:03:01] | justinh: | optional feeds? |
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| [16:03:50] | justinh: | if the broadcaster is following the DVB spec all channels should be shown to be be present whether they're actually on the air or not |
| [16:04:36] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh: they are present, just not being recognized as "TV" – channeltype in mythtv |
| [16:04:57] | justinh: | that'll mean they have no video PID when they're 'off air' which is OFF SPEC |
| [16:05:14] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : ah okay, I see |
| [16:05:37] | justinh: | you can always scan them, then edit the channel type after the scan |
| [16:06:13] | justinh: | if the scan detects a channel as the 'radio' type as far as I know it'll never even look for a video PID associated with the serviceid of the channel |
| [16:06:23] | justinh: | so can first, then correct it after |
| [16:07:41] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : yep, will do that. second question was if there are any "plugins" or similar, that improve the usage of such channels with "subchannels" (like many PayTV provider use) |
| [16:07:49] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : thanks a lopt for the hint |
| [16:07:52] | p1ngb4ck: | *lot |
| [16:08:21] | p1ngb4ck: | with "usage" I mean the live-tv browsing in mythfrointend xD |
| [16:08:28] | justinh: | p1ngb4ck: no plugins exist for tv functionality |
| [16:08:35] | p1ngb4ck: | argh my spelling hits me critical today, sorry |
| [16:08:58] | justinh: | p1ngb4ck: I think you'll only need to change the 'tvformat' of the channel to 'default' |
| [16:09:01] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : :S okay thats why I didnt find some =) thanks anyway |
| [16:09:21] | justinh: | if that field is empty, it'll be taken as a radio channel |
| [16:09:40] | justinh: | you should be able to change that in the channel editor in mythfrontend |
| [16:09:44] | justinh: | or in mythweb |
| [16:09:57] | p1ngb4ck: | yes, I can see those channels fine now, just wanted to have some interface improvement in live tv for these "sport portals" |
| [16:10:16] | justinh: | stupid broadcasters not marking their channels up properly |
| [16:10:22] | justinh: | who wants 'sub' channels anyway? |
| [16:10:35] | justinh: | go to channel X, press MENU, NEXT, NEXT, UP.. SELECT |
| [16:10:38] | justinh: | MEH |
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| [16:11:27] | justinh: | oh, you might want to try enabling 'interactive TV' in mythfrontend. |
| [16:11:30] | p1ngb4ck: | I will simply rebuild the portal-remote-buttons to irexec functions that switch to the correct channel and Im fine I think ;D |
| [16:11:43] | justinh: | those 'special' channels might be linked to with MHEG |
| [16:11:48] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : oh yes will try that option |
| [16:12:17] | justinh: | don't be surprised if you find they're not done that way, but it's something to try |
| [16:12:20] | p1ngb4ck: | justinh : you are right, sometimes I think I get blind or 2 old or both^^ |
| [16:13:41] | justinh: | meh. you can't change the tvstandard of channels in mythweb |
| [16:14:04] | justinh: | I might submit a patch to remove all the silly 'hue, brightness, contrast' junk |
| [16:14:09] | p1ngb4ck: | no problem, will do it for these channels in mythtv-setup |
| [16:14:27] | p1ngb4ck: | ands sort out all those unnecerssary channels in phpadmin directly afterwards |
| [16:14:29] | justinh: | mythtv doesn't actually store any PIDs of channels, so that's good :-) |
| [16:14:57] | p1ngb4ck: | I should be fine if I just delete channels directly in the database? |
| [16:15:04] | justinh: | I wouldn't |
| [16:15:12] | justinh: | set the channels you don't want to 'hidden' |
| [16:15:31] | p1ngb4ck: | no way for > 1700 channels |
| [16:15:32] | justinh: | that might not be ideal though, because get this, some features in mythtv don't filter hidden channels |
| [16:16:06] | justinh: | people in the know here don't generally advise users to operate directly on the database |
| [16:16:19] | justinh: | if you want to do stuff yourself, don't come crying here about it :P |
| [16:16:19] | p1ngb4ck: | yeah I knoiw |
| [16:16:22] | p1ngb4ck: | *know |
| [16:16:47] | p1ngb4ck: | I am not going to set any other thing directly in the database .. except deleting unwanted channels |
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| [16:17:22] | p1ngb4ck: | there is no other option simply .. mythweb cant handle 1700 channels at once (need to modify phpß.ini due to input_vars_max) |
| [16:17:42] | ** justinh thinks.. how am I going to get my raspberry pi on the network, where I want to put it? ** | |
| [16:17:54] | p1ngb4ck: | and deleting 1700 channels in mythtv manually would be a horrortrip |
| [16:17:59] | justinh: | hahaha |
| [16:18:05] | justinh: | ETOOMANYCHANNELS |
| [16:18:40] | justinh: | I wonder how many of those channels also end up with you having unused transponders in the database too |
| [16:18:50] | p1ngb4ck: | ! typical german dvb-s :D |
| [16:19:34] | justinh: | no wonder there's hardly anything worth watching on TV |
| [16:19:52] | justinh: | talent is too thinly spread |
| [16:21:39] | justinh: | hmm I think I might just persist & try to make my USB IR blaster work instead of dicking about with the PI |
| [16:21:42] | justinh: | and sell the PI |
| [16:23:45] | p1ngb4ck: | ever had firefox want to stop phpmyadmin`s js-scripts because it takes too long to display 1,7k db entrys at once ;DD |
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| [16:25:09] | justinh: | who even *needs* so many channels? |
| [16:25:27] | justinh: | even with a few hundred channels there's too much to browse around |
| [16:25:52] | p1ngb4ck: | nobody. but mythtv channelscan finds all those channels, and I cant import, since I want to use EIT-EPG |
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| [16:26:21] | justinh: | I think importing was fixed for that |
| [16:26:30] | p1ngb4ck: | so I have to scan in mythtv, then sort out those 140 channels I want, and then sort them and build channelgroups |
| [16:26:32] | justinh: | so if you use > 0.24 you should be ok |
| [16:27:05] | p1ngb4ck: | no importing wasnt fixed for this, just asked few hours ago |
| [16:27:29] | justinh: | who said? |
| [16:27:39] | p1ngb4ck: | wagnerrp "himself" ;) |
| [16:27:43] | justinh: | ah ok |
| [16:28:02] | justinh: | I remember seeing a fix go in for .conf importing & EIT at some point, I'm sure |
| [16:28:23] | justinh: | maybe it was reverted, or maybe got broken again :P |
| [16:28:34] | wagnerrp: | justinh: was there? to be honest, i haven't been paying close attention to either |
| [16:28:44] | wagnerrp: | have no use for either of them |
| [16:29:13] | p1ngb4ck: | anyhows, as soon as i deleted all those 1,5k channels via phpmyadmin, rest is easy going |
| [16:29:26] | justinh: | yeah I think you import the .conf file then scan existing transports... |
| [16:30:17] | justinh: | be nice to have some kind of web-based channel wizard where you tell it where you are, what lineup you're entitled to.. then you don't even need to scan |
| [16:31:04] | ** justinh wonders how the xmltv guys are getting on with their lineup definitions ** | |
| [16:31:14] | p1ngb4ck: | and since I had to downgrade to 0.25.3 anyhow, I dont know whether that patch has found the way to my local gentoo yet via those ebuilds available. I dont want to build mythfrontend on Win7 myself, so best way to go is using stable 0.25.3 frontend for win-64bit probably |
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| [16:36:02] | justdave: | I made the mistake up upgrading to 0.26. Now my livetv doesn't work anymore. |
| [16:36:31] | justdave: | Googling for the error message results in lots of threads in which the people reporting the same error simply get told "Stop using LiveTV, nobody should be using it anymore" |
| [16:36:52] | justinh: | and? :-) |
| [16:36:58] | justdave: | and if that's really the answer, then WTF does MythTV even claim to support it? |
| [16:37:55] | justinh: | because they want you to use tvheadend :P |
| [16:38:04] | justinh: | (kidding) |
| [16:38:33] | justinh: | I tried licetv last night by accident. Oh boy |
| [16:38:41] | justinh: | slow much? LOL |
| [16:38:58] | wagnerrp: | and so itchy too... |
| [16:39:51] | justinh: | justdave: personally, I don't use livetv mostly because it's so unusable.. but then I find the way I work around the problem is better for me in the longrun anyway |
| [16:40:22] | justinh: | if we want to watch anything live at home, we switch inputs on the TV |
| [16:40:40] | justinh: | so we can't pause or rewind. BOO HOO |
| [16:41:18] | justdave: | yeah, that's my problem is I have two TVs in places where there aren't cable outlets, so streaming it to the TV is the only way to even get Live TV on them. |
| [16:41:33] | justinh: | licetv all started going downhill when people 'voted' to be able to keep live recordings |
| [16:41:40] | justinh: | or something |
| [16:42:21] | justinh: | it's all getting fixx0red in that project with the silly name, allegedly. Get people talking those guys into coming back |
| [16:42:28] | wagnerrp: | the issue has always been that no one with the will to work on that area of the code actually has any need for live tv |
| [16:42:43] | wagnerrp: | so it's always nothing more than something on the backburner to do when there's nothing else to work on |
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| [16:43:19] | justinh: | maybe justdave has a point though.. if it's not treated as any kind of priority by any of the developers, take it off the features list |
| [16:44:22] | wagnerrp: | i know at least jy a uses it, and he claims it works fine for the input types he's using |
| [16:44:40] | justinh: | I'd heard it was mostly analogue tuners it was spannered for |
| [16:45:19] | wagnerrp: | last time i tried it, my digital tuners generally worked well, but every several channel changes, it would get goobered |
| [16:45:27] | justdave: | I have two analog tuners and a digital tuner |
| [16:45:34] | justinh: | wagnerrp: well yuh, or he'd be on fixing it by now. |
| [16:45:37] | justdave: | unfortunately it usually seems to default to the analog one |
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| [16:45:49] | justdave: | and the error dumps back to the menu before I can switch |
| [16:46:07] | wagnerrp: | you could go into mythtv setup and change the livetv tuner ordering |
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| [16:46:22] | wagnerrp: | you can now control that independently of the recording ordering |
| [16:46:43] | justinh: | so nobody has any kind of clue where things are going wrong? |
| [16:47:03] | justinh: | if this is just a classic 'no info, no fix' issue, people have only themselves to blame |
| [16:47:35] | wagnerrp: | i believe the issue of being unable to rewind back before a show change has been recently fixed |
| [16:47:38] | wagnerrp: | or at least discovered |
| [16:47:53] | justinh: | I know where 6 seconds of my channel change time goes... the scheduler |
| [16:48:25] | wagnerrp: | not sure if anyone is actively working on the analog issue |
| [16:48:41] | justinh: | the rest is... presumably waiting for the tuner card's valves to warm up or something |
| [16:49:09] | justinh: | wagnerrp: maybe the people with the ability/inclination to fix it don't have the right kind of setups anymore |
| [16:51:05] | justinh: | anyway, it's all kind of 'how long is a piece of string' |
| [16:51:27] | justinh: | I couldn't really care either way. Hell, I don't even watch much TV these days |
| [16:51:49] | RobertLaptop: | Live TV works fine for me. Under .26 until my last update. I have been all digitial for some time. Love my SD Prime Box. |
| [16:52:01] | wagnerrp: | i should get back to work on this housekeeper stuff, since it's the first part of a number of things i want to commit |
| [16:52:23] | justdave: | I'd love to provide info if anyone told me what to collect. |
| [16:52:32] | justdave: | tuner reordering sounds like an idea. where do I do that? |
| [16:52:39] | wagnerrp: | it's just so hard to get motivated after X crashes and you have dozens of vi temp files to recover |
| [16:54:47] | justdave: | is that in mythtv-setup? not finding it in the setup menus from a client |
| [16:55:49] | RobertLaptop: | Are you seeing anything in /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log ? |
| [16:55:52] | justinh: | prolly is in mythtv-setup |
| [16:56:08] | justdave: | RobertLaptop: not a damn thing since I upgraded |
| [16:56:14] | justdave: | looks like it's all going to syslog now |
| [16:56:25] | justdave: | but I'm not seeing much there either |
| [16:57:05] | RobertLaptop: | I guess you could play with the debugging level? On the frontend startup. |
| [16:57:06] | wagnerrp: | it's on the second page of input connections |
| [16:57:45] | wagnerrp: | mythtv logs to where ever you tell it to on the command line |
| [16:58:02] | wagnerrp: | so whatever is running mythtv, check the specific command, and it will tell you where the logs are going |
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| [17:01:03] | justdave: | there's a second page on input connections? |
| [17:01:11] | justdave: | all I see is the list of connections |
| [17:01:16] | justdave: | how do I get to a second page? |
| [17:01:21] | wagnerrp: | open one up, there are two pages of settings |
| [17:01:38] | wagnerrp: | perhaps that would make it the third page |
| [17:02:02] | justdave: | ahh... ok. it's a priority number on each one, not something to pick from the ones that are there. |
| [17:02:36] | wagnerrp: | that does make configuration a bit tedious |
| [17:02:48] | wagnerrp: | it should be handled better once we move to the web-based setup |
| [17:08:01] | justdave: | whadayaknow, digital works just fine |
| [17:08:12] | justdave: | good thing I actually have a digital tuner in the mix :) |
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| [17:27:42] | dcope: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116064 is this card supported? wiki doesn't mention |
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| [17:30:25] | wagnerrp: | do you need PCI? or can you do PCIe? |
| [17:30:38] | dcope: | need PCI. i'm about to buy a new video card that is PCIe |
| [17:30:59] | wagnerrp: | and you only have the one PCIe slot? sounds like a very old computer |
| [17:32:40] | wagnerrp: | the HVR-1100/-1110/-1120 are supported in linux, and those are the DVB-T variant of that card |
| [17:32:48] | wagnerrp: | however i don't know anything about the -1150 specifically |
| [17:33:07] | dcope: | wagnerrp: perhaps i have more, i'll check |
| [17:33:15] | wagnerrp: | i've been using a -1250 for 4–5 years now, but that's a PCIe card |
| [17:33:57] | dcope: | wagnerrp: ah, i actually have 2 PCIe |
| [17:34:47] | dcope: | hm, newegg doesn't carry any models you mentioend wagnerrp |
| [17:35:23] | wagnerrp: | no, they wouldn't, because newegg only sells to north america |
| [17:35:28] | wagnerrp: | dvb-t is used in europe |
| [17:36:25] | dcope: | ah |
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| [17:38:09] | dcope: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Analog_Hardware_Encoder_Cards |
| [17:38:22] | dcope: | it seems like compatability charts are spread across the wiki... based on this i will need a 1600 |
| [17:39:19] | wagnerrp: | wait... do you need analog or digital? |
| [17:39:32] | dcope: | wagnerrp: digital. i just bought a digital antenna yesterday. |
| [17:39:54] | dcope: | newegg says all of these support ClearQAM (digital) |
| [17:40:22] | wagnerrp: | there are many cards that support digital and are PCI, are supported, and are cheaper than a hauppauge |
| [17:40:41] | wagnerrp: | generally, you buy a hauppauge card because you need to do analog, and you want hardware compression instead of a framegrabber |
| [17:41:09] | wagnerrp: | if you're lacking in space, you could get something like a HDHomeRun |
| [17:41:16] | dcope: | i have plenty of space |
| [17:41:19] | wagnerrp: | it's an external box that sits anywhere on your (wired) network |
| [17:41:27] | dcope: | yeah, i looked at those and decided against it |
| [17:41:34] | dcope: | i just built a htpc so space is fine |
| [17:41:58] | wagnerrp: | if you "just built" it, you should have many pcie slots |
| [17:42:10] | wagnerrp: | modern systems are generally scarce on old PCI slots, not new PCIe ones |
| [17:43:07] | dcope: | yes, i have quite a few avaliable slots. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13 . . . -Z03?$S640W$ |
| [17:43:25] | dcope: | that's a photo of my motherboard in which no slots are occupied, but a PCIe 3.0 will soon be by my new video card |
| [17:44:11] | wagnerrp: | so four PCIe slots and only two PCI slots |
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| [17:49:58] | dcope: | wagnerrp: what do you think of this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116024 |
| [17:50:10] | dcope: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1250 appears it is supported, too |
| [17:50:25] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, i've been using one for close to five years |
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| [17:51:26] | dcope: | wagnerrp: cool... so i can just plug in my digital antenna and will be good to go? |
| [17:51:34] | wagnerrp: | should be |
| [17:51:36] | dcope: | wagnerrp: fwiw, i'm using myth as backend for xbmc |
| [17:51:49] | wagnerrp: | don't know anything about xbmc |
| [17:53:00] | dcope: | cool, i guess i will go with this one. thank you so much for the help, wagnerrp :D |
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| [17:55:41] | mythelpme: | hey all |
| [17:55:56] | mythelpme: | i'm trying to get an infinitv4 pcie configured with myth |
| [17:56:27] | mythelpme: | but running "live tv" from the frontend just pops up to a blank screen, then back to the menu |
| [17:56:38] | mythelpme: | http://pastebin.com/A8A2q1ma |
| [17:56:52] | mythelpme: | is the terminal output from mythfrontend |
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| [17:57:13] | wagnerrp: | we need backend logs, not frontend |
| [17:57:16] | mythelpme: | it suggests checking the backend log |
| [17:57:27] | mythelpme: | are backend logs enabled by default? |
| [17:57:38] | mythelpme: | ./var/log/mythtv is empty |
| [17:58:00] | wagnerrp: | all logging is configured by whatever command line flags you used when you ran mythbackend |
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| [18:13:05] | mythelpme: | backend log: http://pastebin.com/VQUMwgGZ |
| [18:13:46] | mythelpme: | fwiw, I can get video from /dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg0_0 and tune manually from 192.168.200.1 |
| [18:14:34] | mythelpme: | during the backend setup, I couldn't scan using the card |
| [18:14:51] | mythelpme: | but google searching said that wasn't unusual |
| [18:18:23] | wagnerrp: | yes, you can't scan. you must download a lineup from your schedules direct account |
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| [18:19:51] | mythelpme: | ok, I've subscribed to my cable lineup from schedulesdirect.org |
| [18:19:57] | mythelpme: | i've run mythfilldatabase |
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| [18:20:25] | mythelpme: | am i missing something? |
| [18:20:48] | wagnerrp: | usually you pull the lineup from within mythtv-setup, in the Video Sources section |
| [18:21:01] | Oleg_: | why am I getting this error when compiling mythtv from 0.26-fixes git branch: |
| [18:21:09] | Oleg_: | ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.26.so: undefined reference to `dvdnav_get_highlight_area_from_group' |
| [18:21:10] | Oleg_: | ? |
| [18:21:57] | wagnerrp: | probably means you need to clean out any stray compiled objects, and build from scratch |
| [18:22:02] | mythelpme: | is that the "fetch channels from listings source" within mythtv-setup? |
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| [18:22:21] | wagnerrp: | sometimes make gets a bit confused, and doesn't rebuild some object when it is supposed to |
| [18:23:08] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, well, I still get the same error after running gmake distclean and then configuring and recompiling |
| [18:23:56] | wagnerrp: | try uninstalling the existing copy, to make sure it's not trying to link against the installed libraries |
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| [18:24:43] | wagnerrp: | although typically the headers should not be changing within the fixes branch |
| [18:24:54] | wagnerrp: | are you sure you're on the correct branch? |
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| [18:34:34] | mythelpme: | wagnerrp, thanks. turns out i failed to retreive the lineup from the video sources |
| [18:34:40] | mythelpme: | tv's working now! =) |
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| [18:35:25] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, yes, I am on the fixes branch |
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| [19:24:01] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, you were right. Uninstalling the existing copy did help me get rid of the issue |
| [19:24:04] | Oleg_: | thanks |
| [19:25:05] | wagnerrp: | it's only a problem because you're using the wrong parameters in your configure call, specifically the ones to fix configure not picking up on liblame |
| [19:25:29] | wagnerrp: | although to be honest, i haven't taken the time to figure out how to set that include properly to avoid this issue |
| [19:29:53] | Oleg_: | but now I am having the same problem that I had before. when I try to change a channel in mythfrontend, I get: |
| [19:29:56] | Oleg_: | 2013-01–21 14:27:56.022370 E RecBase(1:192.168.0.158–0): SetStrOption(...recordingtype): Option not in profile. |
| [19:29:56] | Oleg_: | Handling Segmentation fault: 11 |
| [19:29:57] | Oleg_: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
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| [19:40:21] | Oleg_: | any idea what can I do to get rid of this segmentation fault problem? |
| [19:40:53] | Oleg_: | sphery, you said I would need to rebuild mythtv with the debugging support enabled? |
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| [19:43:25] | wagnerrp: | change the profile to debug, to prevent make from automatically stripping the binaries during install |
| [19:43:58] | wagnerrp: | is profile the right flag? can't recall... |
| [19:45:24] | Oleg_: | I am confused. how can I change the profile to debug? |
| [19:45:27] | Oleg_: | what should I do? |
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| [19:56:41] | daniel1988: | I am having an issue getting mythtv video to recognize videos that are in the storage directory "videos". I was wondering if there was any easy way for testing to make sure that all permissions and everything are setup correctly on the files/folders |
| [19:57:09] | wagnerrp: | run mythtv-setup as the correct user, it will perform the necessary checks |
| [19:59:01] | daniel1988: | Well I have done that, and it did throw an error at first. which I have since fixed. Hmm. I am using the web interface to scan for the collection. Any ideas or places to start? i have had it working before, but I have recently reinstalled everything and I can't seem to get it to work. |
| [19:59:15] | wagnerrp: | yes, don't use the web interface to scan the collection |
| [19:59:17] | wagnerrp: | it's broken |
| [19:59:36] | daniel1988: | Hmm, okay. |
| [20:00:43] | daniel1988: | so i should just run "mythutil --scanvideos" ? |
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| [20:01:06] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, please explain to me how I can change the profile to "debug" |
| [20:01:10] | wagnerrp: | that should work, or just manually scan on the occasion you rip a new DVD, or copy some videos from your camera |
| [20:02:19] | wagnerrp: | "--compile-type=CTYPE one of release, profile, debug" |
| [20:04:11] | daniel1988: | Well thanks for giving me that idea. it appears there was actually a configuration error that was stopping it from running. The command line showed me the actual error! Thanks for the help! |
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| [21:00:17] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, okay, so I started running mythfrontend inside gdb and when I tried to change a channel, I got: |
| [21:00:20] | Oleg_: | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| [21:00:20] | Oleg_: | [Switching to Thread 82afea000 (LWP 101344)] |
| [21:00:20] | Oleg_: | 0x000000080cbc8c16 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.7 |
| [21:01:22] | clever: | Oleg_: need a backtrace |
| [21:02:00] | Oleg_: | how can I provide it? |
| [21:03:16] | Oleg_: | I simply need to follow these instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html ? |
| [21:04:23] | Oleg_: | I need to type a command similar to this one: |
| [21:04:30] | Oleg_: | while true; do date >> gdb.txt; gdb mythbackend -x gdbcommands; done; |
| [21:04:31] | Oleg_: | ? |
| [21:07:31] | clever: | and you need to properly create gdbcommands |
| [21:08:23] | Oleg_: | well, I created that file and put in that file desribed on the site |
| [21:08:36] | Oleg_: | the instructions described on the site |
| [21:09:49] | clever: | once its done, you should have a backtrace in gdb.txt |
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| [21:14:15] | Oleg_: | clever, okay, I ran gdb751 mythfrontend -x gdbcommands |
| [21:14:40] | Oleg_: | but if I run it that way, I can't access the mythfrontend ui |
| [21:14:44] | Oleg_: | I can't change a channel |
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| [21:18:10] | Oleg_: | so, what should I do? |
| [21:18:32] | clever: | not sure |
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| [21:19:08] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, please help |
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| [21:27:38] | jm|laptop: | I wonder if anyone has experienced an issue with upnp/dlna. I have a Panasonic Viera TV that finds MythTV and works pretty well, but when I pause and unpause it seems to skip forward about four minutes |
| [21:27:50] | monkeypet69: | so if I do edit, z, flag the commercial, then transcoding autodetect, it will do lossless commercial cutting? |
| [21:28:04] | monkeypet69: | mpg2->mpg2? |
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| [21:37:30] | infinite: | I am having a problem with the OS X version of MythTV. Whenever I try to play video (recorded or live TV) it starts playing and I can hear the audio, but the "please wait" screen never disappears and the video never appears. |
| [21:37:44] | infinite: | I have tried various video settings with no luck |
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| [21:39:01] | infinite: | I have it running under OS X 10.7 and I only downloaded it about a week ago so it should be the most current version |
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| [21:39:33] | infinite: | The backend is on a different system (Mythbuntu) and other front ends work fine, just not under OS X. |
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| [21:40:07] | infinite: | And in the OS X version everything works except the video |
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| [22:01:03] | infinite: | Forgot to mention, the OS X version of XBMC "Frodo" works fine to play videos and Live TV from the backend, it is only the actual OS X version of the MythTV frontend that won't play the video. |
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| [22:52:28] | justinh: | earth calling DLNA/UPnP... GO AWAY. Come back when you agree on a PROPER STANDARD, you ****s! |
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| [22:53:20] | justinh: | Universal* (* No, not even with stuff from the same manufacturer. HA-HA) |
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| [22:56:31] | justinh: | oh, and Inkscape, I think it's high time your 'prevent copies of gradients being created' tickbox actually did something |
| [22:57:10] | justinh: | make a lovely looking button, copy it a few dozen times... go to change the shading colours & find there are now 96 copies you have to change |
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| [23:59:46] | mark2013: | Using sudo aptitude purge myth backend, frontend and HomeRun config and then re-installing, and setting capture cards to Tuner Box and ID to serial number, there is no picture-sound under MythTV Frontend "Watch TV" |
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