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| [00:03:27] | justinh: | I like this kind of development work. here's a plugin & how to include it in your page. BOSH! |
| [00:03:49] | justinh: | with this thing, there's not even any need of mythmote et al |
| [00:04:12] | justinh: | and it's extendable :-) |
| [00:05:02] | justinh: | right now it's four remotes of 9x5 buttons, each remote is in its own div. some js to hide all but one.. and off we go |
| [00:12:58] | justinh: | <a href="#" onclick="$.get('button.php?wol=00:01:80:66:9f:bd');"><img src="img/btnon.png"></a> |
| [00:14:53] | justinh: | right. that done, back it up to dropbox.. and sleeeeep |
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| [00:42:24] | mark2013: | Have older white box. Have flashed hdhr to latest firmware: 20130117. MythTV setup, front & back end -configs almost done. MythTV GUI Config has 1 of 2 tuners & VLC has pix & sound. Myth back, front & setup DO NOT lock or acquire channels. For instance: Jan 19 12:21:36 Lexington-19 mythbackend[12939]: E CoreContext scheduler.cpp:218 (VerifyCards) Scheduler: No channel sources defined in the database |
| [00:42:53] | wagnerrp: | by latest firmware, do you mean the beta firmware for UPNP streaming? |
| [00:44:09] | mark2013: | HDHomeRun Config under tab: Upgrade lists Firmware Version: 20130117. that is all I know |
| [00:44:51] | wagnerrp: | was this HDHR previously working on a mythtv installation? or are you saying you are installing mythtv for the first time? |
| [00:45:16] | mark2013: | I am installing for 1st time. I bought this on eBay. |
| [00:45:28] | wagnerrp: | then you need to follow the directions for installing mythtv |
| [00:46:00] | wagnerrp: | specifically, you need to create a video source, map it to both the inputs on your HDHR, and then scan for channels |
| [00:46:14] | wagnerrp: | your error indicates you have done none of this |
| [00:46:17] | mark2013: | OK, I will use Ubuntu Software center to unistall back, front and home run gui |
| [00:46:56] | wagnerrp: | uninstalling and reinstalling isn't going to configure mythtv |
| [00:47:58] | mark2013: | I have spent most of yesterday and today trying to find the right values for the tuner. First the IP was wrong. Then the Myth software "config" offered to use device serial number in place of IP address. Very difficult for me to know. I'm less than 48 hours old here. |
| [00:48:24] | wagnerrp: | you should be using the serial number |
| [00:48:37] | wagnerrp: | it is the one printed on the bottom of your tuner, and the one mythtv autodetected on the network |
| [00:49:05] | wagnerrp: | aside from that, all the configurable tuner settings should be fine at their defaults |
| [00:49:38] | mark2013: | If by "video source" you mean OTA antella signal, that is present. As for the mapping, can you give me a URL How-To? It's not int he wiki as the wiki info seems out-of-date in places. |
| [00:49:56] | wagnerrp: | i just mean "video source", it's a menu item in mythtv-setup |
| [00:50:04] | wagnerrp: | the video source is just a container for a list of channels |
| [00:50:26] | wagnerrp: | the list of channels is kept independent from the tuner, to allow you to map multiple tuners to that single list of channels |
| [00:50:38] | wagnerrp: | such as both tuners on that HDHR, that both receive the same list of channels |
| [00:51:43] | wagnerrp: | right now, you're probably about here... http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#VideoSources |
| [00:56:24] | usnu: | Hi! |
| [00:56:46] | usnu: | Now I'm learnin... |
| [00:57:37] | usnu: | Thanks for the info Mark, looking for the flash file now... |
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| [00:58:16] | wagnerrp: | flash file? |
| [00:58:53] | usnu: | To upgrade my old white HDHomerun |
| [01:00:43] | wagnerrp: | looks like a whole bunch of changes that don't apply to the standard units |
| [01:01:00] | wagnerrp: | except maybe the autoip handling |
| [01:01:08] | wagnerrp: | but that's only if you don't have a DHCP server |
| [01:05:17] | usnu: | do I want silicondust.com? |
| [01:06:05] | usnu: | mine is HDHR-US, dont see it yet.. |
| [01:06:12] | mark2013: | 1st – I have deleted all cards and all cards on Lex-19 (this 'puter). From screen called: Capture Card Setup I config: HD HOmeRun DTV tuner box, next: Available Devices: set to HDHR serial number, next: second tuner set to 2nd serial number, first is zero (0) second is (1). On screen "Connect Source to Input", Video Source is Antenna on BOTH tuners (well one at a time setup of course). Upon going to next screen, where |
| [01:06:12] | mark2013: | SCAN is available, scan runs and asks to "insert". I clicked: Insert. Now what? |
| [01:07:35] | wagnerrp: | make sure you have a storage directory set up, start up the backend, start up the frontend, and see what you get |
| [01:07:42] | wagnerrp: | actual guide data can come later |
| [01:08:17] | mark2013: | Pardon my ignorance, but do you mean "startup" from the command line? |
| [01:08:42] | wagnerrp: | from the terminal, the programs 'mythbackend' and 'mythfrontend' |
| [01:09:00] | wagnerrp: | the backend manages the tuners and records, the frontend views things recorded by the backend |
| [01:09:43] | wagnerrp: | they are separated and connect over the network, so you can have them run on different machines |
| [01:14:16] | mark2013: | OK, on exit mythtv-setup -geometry 640x480+300+200, I was asked to start backend. Entered password and was asked if I wanted to fill database, I said yes. I am watching screen, white letter, black background repeat: content-type missing in HTTP POST, Uh OH, terminal has ended. mythtv-backend start/running, process 15230 |
| [01:14:50] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like trouble with mythbuntu's wrapper scripts, not mythtv itself |
| [01:15:10] | mark2013: | Q@$T RG Q3rg WHAT? |
| [01:15:40] | mark2013: | Is the Wizard of OZ available here, this IRC? |
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| [01:20:56] | qwebirc28763: | I've been trying to sort out commerical flagging issues for the last couple days and stumbled across some error messages coming from the backend...anyone have some time to help out?...I can post log files. |
| [01:22:00] | mark2013: | OK, I ran MythTV Frontend from drop down menu in Ubuntu. TV & sound showing. I will play with this a while and come back as needed. WAGNERRP you are the best. Thank you. |
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| [01:37:28] | qwebirc28763: | Finally got a pastebin up...http://pastebin.com/GcdXTRPa....any ideas on the errors? |
| [01:37:39] | qwebirc28763: | sorry http://pastebin.com/GcdXTRPa |
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| [01:39:08] | wagnerrp: | this is an analog mpeg encoder? |
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| [01:41:31] | qwebirc28763: | yes...off a 1600 |
| [01:43:33] | qwebirc28763: | it's two recordings at once....the ota one is fine....the analog one isn't |
| [01:44:18] | qwebirc28763: | the analog one is s-video from a satellite box |
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| [01:45:54] | qwebirc28763: | I've been noticing that playback doesn't show 30 minute show length on the analog...but ota is fine |
| [01:48:41] | Bray90820: | so i set up some recording in mythtv and everything seemed to work fine but the recordings never stopped eventho i can see that no tuners are in use and nothing is in my recordings folder |
| [01:56:29] | Bray90820: | it seems that no one knows what's going on with my problem |
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| [02:16:57] | MegaWhore: | I don't have a dedicated video capture card, I just have the firewire that came with the motherboard, could this possibly work? |
| [02:17:26] | wagnerrp: | only if you have a capture device to connect to using firewire |
| [02:17:48] | wagnerrp: | firewire is just a data transfer interface, USB on steroids |
| [02:18:52] | MegaWhore: | hmm,,, i get that last part, not the first part you said |
| [02:19:16] | MegaWhore: | i want to capture from my comcast digital set top box |
| [02:19:21] | MegaWhore: | it has firewire |
| [02:19:42] | wagnerrp: | if you want to do that, you're better off buying a cablecard tuner, renting a cablecard, and returning the cable box |
| [02:20:26] | MegaWhore: | I dont think my TV has a cable card slot |
| [02:20:36] | wagnerrp: | few do |
| [02:20:44] | wagnerrp: | but the cablecard tuner would have a cablecard slot |
| [02:20:51] | MegaWhore: | oh |
| [02:21:05] | wagnerrp: | something like a DCR-2650 (2-tuner), HDHomeRun Prime (3-tuner), or infinitv (4-tuner) |
| [02:21:15] | MegaWhore: | If this works out, I will follow that suggestion |
| [02:21:34] | wagnerrp: | firewire capture off the cable box _might_ work, if it's even enabled |
| [02:21:42] | MegaWhore: | but for now I just want to see if this can work... From my Comcast HD Box Firewire----->PC Firewire |
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| [02:22:10] | MegaWhore: | according to the spreadsheet on mythtv, rng100 is supported |
| [02:22:38] | wagnerrp: | it is, but the port may be disabled, or may not be programmed to allow unauthenticated access |
| [02:22:49] | MegaWhore: | oic |
| [02:23:08] | MegaWhore: | best way to test? |
| [02:23:17] | wagnerrp: | there are no rules on how those ports have to behave when talking to other devices that cannot perform the proper authentication handshake |
| [02:23:40] | wagnerrp: | and IIRC, there are no longer rules that say they have to work at all |
| [02:23:45] | MegaWhore: | ah, I thought the MythTV did the handshake |
| [02:24:02] | wagnerrp: | no, the handshake is a DRM mechanism |
| [02:24:15] | wagnerrp: | meaning you can only perform it if you are closed sourced and properly licensed to do so |
| [02:24:34] | MegaWhore: | I thought the XBMC software would do that, one way or another |
| [02:24:53] | MegaWhore: | I thought wrong? |
| [02:24:53] | wagnerrp: | it's an authentication mechanism that identifies you as something that will protect the received content from the user |
| [02:25:07] | MegaWhore: | I'm well aware of DRM |
| [02:25:24] | wagnerrp: | i don't know of anything that fakes the 5C handshake |
| [02:25:51] | MegaWhore: | Ok |
| [02:26:07] | MegaWhore: | I heard comcast doesn't use much DRM (just from around the web) so I'll give it a go I suppose |
| [02:26:21] | MegaWhore: | just not sure where to start |
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| [02:26:32] | wagnerrp: | typically, comcast only marks the premium channels for copy protection |
| [02:27:07] | wagnerrp: | i've never used firewire, so i don't know anything about the setup procedure |
| [02:27:20] | MegaWhore: | what are you using? |
| [02:27:38] | wagnerrp: | ATSC tuner, just the locals |
| [02:29:25] | qwebirc28763: | wagnerrp: any thoughts on my errors? |
| [02:29:48] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [02:30:04] | qwebirc28763: | k...thanks |
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| [02:42:07] | Bray90820: | so i set up some recording in mythtv and everything seemed to work fine but the recordings never stopped eventho i can see that no tuners are in use and nothing is in my recordings folder |
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| [02:46:08] | Bray90820: | Anyone? |
| [02:50:12] | Bray90820: | ? |
| [02:50:34] | wagnerrp: | i know there was some issue where mythweb would report things never stopped recording |
| [02:50:40] | wagnerrp: | does the frontend actually say such? |
| [02:52:15] | Bray90820: | the frontend does say it's recording |
| [02:52:37] | Bray90820: | could it be that a proper location was never defined |
| [02:53:33] | Bray90820: | a proper recording location |
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| [02:53:51] | Bray90820: | because the recording never even showed up in my folder |
| [02:55:34] | Bray90820: | well it appears that i did get 1 recording tonight |
| [02:55:52] | Bray90820: | but the ones i recorded yesterday did not show up |
| [02:56:28] | Bray90820: | or ever stop |
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| [02:59:09] | Bray90820: | so you don't know |
| [03:00:21] | Bray90820: | ? |
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| [03:06:34] | Bray90820: | maybe at least you can help me with another question i am having |
| [03:06:58] | Bray90820: | when i record something it give me a name such as 1777_20130119190000 |
| [03:07:18] | Bray90820: | is there a way to have it be the name of the episode or show |
| [03:07:27] | Bray90820: | episode would be better |
| [03:08:14] | wagnerrp: | the actual file? no, but you can use mythlink.pl to create one or more directories of symlinks with a configurable syntax |
| [03:08:40] | Bray90820: | +wagnerrp explain |
| [03:08:53] | wagnerrp: | do you know what symlinks are? |
| [03:09:21] | Bray90820: | no |
| [03:09:56] | wagnerrp: | a symlink is just a special file that links back to another file or directory on your filesystem |
| [03:10:16] | wagnerrp: | when something tries to open the symlink, it automatically opens the linked to file instead |
| [03:10:46] | wagnerrp: | so mythtv will keep its flat, numerically named recordings in one directory |
| [03:10:58] | Bray90820: | well what i was hoping was to have it in suc a way that i didn't have to play it to know what it was |
| [03:11:11] | wagnerrp: | but in another directory, you can have mythlink.pl generate symlinks to those recordings using whatever syntax you want |
| [03:13:08] | Bray90820: | so there is no way to have it to where i don't have to open the file to know what it is |
| [03:13:21] | Bray90820: | and even then i might not know when it was actually recorded |
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| [03:15:33] | Bray90820: | what exactly does symlink do does it rename the file |
| [03:15:35] | Bray90820: | ? |
| [03:15:56] | wagnerrp: | no, it makes symlinks |
| [03:16:19] | wagnerrp: | for example, one of the formatting strings i would use was "%pY%-%pm%-%pd/(%pH%pi%-%peH%pei) %T %- %S" |
| [03:16:19] | Bray90820: | sorry but i am a bit confused |
| [03:16:58] | wagnerrp: | which would result in symlinks named something like "2013-01–19/(21:00-22–00) Some Title – Some Subtitle.mpg" |
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| [03:18:26] | bray90820: | what i would hope is that there would be something like the name of the episode such as it does on my tivo |
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| [03:18:30] | wagnerrp: | or "%T/(%oY%-%om%-%od) %S", which makes "Some Title/(2013-01–19) Some Subtitle.mpg" |
| [03:18:54] | wagnerrp: | the point is you open the directory, and use these symlinks just like regular files |
| [03:19:05] | wagnerrp: | the recordings stay in their original locations |
| [03:19:13] | bray90820: | yes |
| [03:19:21] | wagnerrp: | and you can even have multiple different directories, each with different sorting methods |
| [03:19:27] | bray90820: | but does the symlinks rename the files? |
| [03:19:32] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't |
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| [03:19:48] | wagnerrp: | presumably you're more familiar with windows? |
| [03:20:15] | bray90820: | actually i am filmier with windows os x and ubuntu |
| [03:20:20] | bray90820: | my backend it on ubuntu |
| [03:20:32] | wagnerrp: | well windows shortcuts on your desktop |
| [03:20:39] | wagnerrp: | it's not the actual file, but it links back to the actual file |
| [03:20:55] | wagnerrp: | you click it, and it opens the file as if you had clicked on the actual file |
| [03:21:05] | wagnerrp: | symlinks are the same thing, but implemented at a much lower level |
| [03:21:18] | bray90820: | so basicly it's just a shortcut |
| [03:21:33] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [03:21:51] | bray90820: | but i would have to create one for every single thing i record? |
| [03:22:07] | wagnerrp: | no, you run mythlink.pl and it generates the links for you |
| [03:22:39] | bray90820: | how does it name it? |
| [03:22:56] | wagnerrp: | with a user defined formatting string, like the two examples i gave above |
| [03:23:27] | bray90820: | i apologize but i do not have the logs anymore |
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| [03:23:47] | bray90820: | i accidentally closed my browser a few minutes back |
| [03:24:07] | wagnerrp: | !url logs |
| [03:24:08] | MythLogBot: | logs: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1 |
| [03:24:19] | wagnerrp: | one of those strings was actually mentioned after you rejoined |
| [03:25:09] | bray90820: | so would it do somethinh such as my first recording '01' second recording '02' etc |
| [03:26:19] | bray90820: | if i choose it that is |
| [03:26:57] | bray90820: | actually i would prefer to date it |
| [03:28:06] | bray90820: | that sounds quite instructing |
| [03:28:11] | bray90820: | how would i get started using that |
| [03:28:42] | bray90820: | well actually i can't use those |
| [03:28:46] | bray90820: | damnit |
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| [03:29:16] | bray90820: | because i use plex an xbmc based media center to view my recordings |
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| [03:31:54] | bray90820: | didn't there use to be a renaming functionality |
| [03:35:05] | wagnerrp: | well there was mythrename.pl, but the renaming capability was removed, and it was renamed to mythlink.pl |
| [03:35:12] | wagnerrp: | why couldn't you use symlinks? |
| [03:36:15] | wagnerrp: | like i said, unless applications are specially programmed to manipulate the symlink itself, these will behave just like normal video files |
| [03:36:24] | wagnerrp: | it would be no different from actually renaming the files themselves |
| [03:38:02] | tonsofpcs: | so I just got home and two shows that were supposed to record aat 7 and 730 didn't. The show that's supposed to start recording soon doesn't show as about to start. killed and restarted backend, mythfilldatabase'd and checked 'upcoming recordings' and I see nothing... |
| [03:38:14] | tonsofpcs: | (note: I restarted the system earlier today, around noon) |
| [03:38:34] | tonsofpcs: | recording rules appears to still show everything |
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| [03:39:15] | tonsofpcs: | including the recording that should be starting soon (SNL) |
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| [03:40:02] | tonsofpcs: | any ideas how to force the scheduler to rebuild? |
| [03:40:06] | tonsofpcs: | (0.25) |
| [03:40:17] | wagnerrp: | it automatically reruns when you start mythbackend |
| [03:40:32] | tonsofpcs: | well... |
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| [03:40:36] | wagnerrp: | the only place the scheduler selection is stored is in memory in the backend, so it must be regenerated on a restart |
| [03:40:50] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way to troubleshoot what's going wrong? |
| [03:40:55] | wagnerrp: | check backend logs |
| [03:40:58] | tonsofpcs: | note: I have scheduler logs teed off for gigem |
| [03:41:02] | wagnerrp: | perhaps a permissions issue? |
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| [03:41:30] | wagnerrp: | maybe since you manually ran mythbackend for logging purposes, you ran it as the wrong user? |
| [03:42:28] | tonsofpcs: | QMYSQL: Unable to execute query |
| [03:42:28] | tonsofpcs: | Database error was: |
| [03:42:28] | tonsofpcs: | Table './mythconverg/recordmatch' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed |
| [03:42:37] | wagnerrp: | that's a problem |
| [03:42:57] | tonsofpcs: | way to fix? |
| [03:43:03] | tonsofpcs: | (or troubleshoot) |
| [03:43:20] | wagnerrp: | see mysql table repair documentation |
| [03:43:30] | wagnerrp: | make sure to terminate any mythtv instance before doing so |
| [03:43:39] | wagnerrp: | or anything else that may attempt to access that database during the repair |
| [03:44:01] | wagnerrp: | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/repair-table.html. |
| [03:44:14] | tonsofpcs: | ok, myths (front and back) are killed |
| [03:44:48] | wagnerrp: | damaged tables are typically a result of a crash mysqld |
| [03:45:02] | tonsofpcs: | ugh... do you know the trick to get a SQL prompt with mysqladmin off-hand? |
| [03:45:12] | wagnerrp: | either from a kernel panic, or running out of disk space during a write |
| [03:45:17] | wagnerrp: | i just use 'mysql' |
| [03:45:24] | tonsofpcs: | oh, ok ;) |
| [03:45:48] | wagnerrp: | you'll likely need to run as the mysql root user |
| [03:45:59] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure if the mythtv user would have repair rights |
| [03:46:11] | tonsofpcs: | of course, the table name isn't ./mythconverg/recordmatch .... |
| [03:46:27] | wagnerrp: | mythconverg.recordmatch |
| [03:46:34] | wagnerrp: | database.table |
| [03:48:14] | tonsofpcs: | | mythconverg.recordmatch | repair | status | OK | |
| [03:48:18] | tonsofpcs: | hopefully that's enough |
| [03:48:48] | wagnerrp: | you may want to try the database test utility in mythweb |
| [03:49:06] | tonsofpcs: | do I need backend running for that? |
| [03:49:20] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [03:49:49] | tonsofpcs: | well, I see it doing schedule stuff now, so that's good :) |
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| [03:50:06] | tonsofpcs: | my guess is that mysql shut down while backend was writing to it when I did a system shutdown... |
| [03:50:52] | tonsofpcs: | 'extended check' ? |
| [03:51:09] | tonsofpcs: | orr just look at the database tab where everything says ok? |
| [03:51:15] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesn't write to the database, only mysqld writes to the database |
| [03:51:30] | wagnerrp: | so as long as mysqld exited cleanly, it shouldn't be a problem |
| [03:51:46] | ** tonsofpcs greps sql logs ** | |
| [03:52:53] | tonsofpcs: | hmm, mysql logs and mysql.err are all empty... |
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| [03:54:07] | tonsofpcs: | anyway, thank you much :) |
| [03:54:27] | tonsofpcs: | I'm going back to filing logs with gigem when I break things (probably tomorrow night) if he needs more |
| [03:54:42] | tonsofpcs: | #11207 |
| [03:54:42] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11207 ** | |
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| [04:28:14] | runelind: | I have a HD Homerun Prime with three tuners – I'd like to watch sporting events while they're being recorded, and have it switch to live TV when I get caught up to real-time. Will this happen seamlessly or do I have to manually switch to live TV? |
| [04:29:01] | wagnerrp: | switch to livetv? |
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| [04:30:55] | runelind: | in other words, when my recording catches up to real-time, can I keep watching the recorded file? |
| [04:31:04] | runelind: | in "real-time" |
| [04:31:09] | wagnerrp: | why wouldn't you be able to? |
| [04:31:22] | runelind: | I wasn't sure, I was just checking. |
| [04:31:38] | runelind: | I was recording a hockey game, and playback just crashed a few minutes before I got caught up to real time. |
| [04:31:47] | runelind: | there was a certain point I couldn't get past. |
| [04:31:57] | wagnerrp: | yeah, usually a couple seconds behind realtime |
| [04:32:12] | wagnerrp: | the player is supposed to prevent you from getting too close, for stability reasons |
| [04:32:18] | wagnerrp: | but sometimes it doesn't work as intended |
| [04:32:50] | runelind: | yeah, but it would just go back to the main page |
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| [04:33:19] | runelind: | ended up missing about 10 mins of the game because I had to switch back to the live stream. |
| [04:33:47] | runelind: | which I'm guessing is not intended behavior. |
| [04:33:47] | wagnerrp: | but you had the recording |
| [04:33:54] | wagnerrp: | why not just watch the recording? |
| [04:34:16] | runelind: | the recording would just stop playing back at the same point no matter how many times i tried playing back the recorded file. |
| [04:34:22] | runelind: | and go back to the main menu. |
| [04:34:36] | wagnerrp: | sounds like the file was actually cut short |
| [04:34:45] | wagnerrp: | i would check your backend logs to see if it faulted somehow |
| [04:34:55] | runelind: | yeah, is possible. |
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| [04:39:26] | bray90820: | +wagnerrp the reason i can't use symlinks is because my media center only picks up the video file |
| [04:39:46] | bray90820: | so it wouldn't have the correct name |
| [04:39:47] | wagnerrp: | it picks up the symlinks too |
| [04:40:14] | wagnerrp: | unless it has special programming to force otherwise, it can't tell the difference between the symlink and the actual recording |
| [04:40:19] | wagnerrp: | it is a transparent link |
| [04:40:36] | bray90820: | well it doesn't have a file vies only a library view |
| [04:41:15] | wagnerrp: | if you're going off the filesystem, and not the database, which is the only reason you might need to change the filenames |
| [04:41:19] | wagnerrp: | then it does have a file view |
| [04:42:16] | bray90820: | what do you mean |
| [04:43:12] | bray90820: | i am trying to play them in an app that is based off of xbmc |
| [04:43:39] | wagnerrp: | you said you want to change filenames so that they show up properly in external players |
| [04:43:53] | wagnerrp: | so you use mythlink.pl, and point the external players at the new directory of symlinks |
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| [04:44:15] | wagnerrp: | but then you say it doesn't have a filesystem view to use those filenames |
| [04:44:16] | bray90820: | what do you mean by external player |
| [04:44:25] | wagnerrp: | anything that's not internal |
| [04:44:29] | wagnerrp: | anything that's not mythfrontend |
| [04:44:51] | wagnerrp: | if it didn't have a filesystem view, then you would be seeing something other than those numerical filenames in the first place |
| [04:44:55] | wagnerrp: | and wouldn't have this problem |
| [04:45:20] | bray90820: | then yes i am trying to use an external player with a library view |
| [04:45:27] | bray90820: | no folder view like in xbmc |
| [04:45:51] | wagnerrp: | a library view, meaning it is reading information out of mythtv's database? |
| [04:46:08] | bray90820: | no |
| [04:46:25] | wagnerrp: | well it's either reading metadata out of the database, or just using the filenames on the filesystem |
| [04:46:29] | wagnerrp: | has to be one or the other |
| [04:46:40] | bray90820: | it's kinda hard to explain |
| [04:47:03] | bray90820: | it's not actually going through myth |
| [04:47:20] | wagnerrp: | if it's not going through myth, it's pulling from the filesystem |
| [04:47:30] | bray90820: | yes |
| [04:47:39] | wagnerrp: | so point it at the directory of symlinks |
| [04:47:46] | wagnerrp: | instead of the directory of recordings |
| [04:47:49] | bray90820: | but it does not use the folder view liek in xbmc |
| [04:48:54] | bray90820: | if i were to poing it at symlinks folder it wouldn't pick it up because it's not the video file |
| [04:49:03] | tonsofpcs: | runelind: make sure your sports recordings 'record late', as if the file stops recording and the tuner was repurposed, you have nothing |
| [04:49:03] | bray90820: | point |
| [04:49:15] | wagnerrp: | yes it is |
| [04:49:19] | tonsofpcs: | 'live tv' is just recording and playing back anyway. |
| [04:49:26] | wagnerrp: | for all intents and purposes a symlink IS a video file |
| [04:49:33] | wagnerrp: | it IS the exact thing it is pointing to |
| [04:49:52] | wagnerrp: | the file is transparently dereferenced, unless the application is specially programmed to handle the symlink directly |
| [04:50:14] | wagnerrp: | like i said earlier, it is like a shortcut, but operates at a much lower level |
| [04:50:27] | bray90820: | but it would look in the symlinks folder not see a video file so it would not pick up anything |
| [04:50:51] | wagnerrp: | yes, it would see those video files |
| [04:51:16] | bray90820: | but how if the video fiels arn't even in the folder |
| [04:51:31] | wagnerrp: | because unless it is specially programmed to handle those symlinks as symlinks, and it tells the filesystem it wants to access those symlinks as symlinks, all it will see is a directory full of videos |
| [04:51:35] | wagnerrp: | the symlinks ARE the videos |
| [04:51:50] | wagnerrp: | they are dereferenced beneath the application |
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| [04:52:21] | bray90820: | then symlinks arn't actually files are they |
| [04:52:28] | wagnerrp: | no, they are links to files |
| [04:52:50] | wagnerrp: | but if an application tries to open that symlink, the filesystem will instead open the file the symlink points to |
| [04:53:42] | bray90820: | isn't a shortcut a file |
| [04:53:56] | wagnerrp: | no, it's like a shortcut, but operates much lower |
| [04:54:13] | wagnerrp: | erm, yes, a shortcut actually is a file |
| [04:54:17] | bray90820: | ahh |
| [04:54:18] | wagnerrp: | but a symlink is just a pointer |
| [04:54:20] | bray90820: | now i got it |
| [04:54:21] | wagnerrp: | not a true file |
| [04:54:53] | bray90820: | ok |
| [04:55:07] | bray90820: | so how would i go about creating a symlink |
| [04:55:22] | wagnerrp: | with mythlink.pl |
| [04:56:14] | bray90820: | do i need to know any perl |
| [04:56:26] | wagnerrp: | nope, just run it |
| [04:56:36] | wagnerrp: | with the necessary command line parameters |
| [04:56:46] | RobertLaptop: | Question I upgrade to the latest mythbuntu myth packages but now my front end isn't loading and when I turned on debugging I am getting tons of the following "I Waiting for database schema upgrade lock" I confirmed I am using the same version of the packages on the backup any idea's? |
| [04:56:48] | Korny: | I have mine setup for checking every 10 mminutes |
| [04:57:00] | Korny: | so I can stream video via emit |
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| [04:57:07] | Korny: | I wish the android app for mythtv worked for me :/ |
| [04:57:14] | wagnerrp: | korny: mythlink? |
| [04:57:21] | Korny: | yes |
| [04:57:22] | bray90820: | i guess i can look at the wiki and try to figure it out |
| [04:57:26] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [04:57:53] | Korny: | wagnerrp, why not? its just run as a cron job |
| [04:58:06] | Korny: | I like watching the news when it starts while I'm at work |
| [04:58:08] | wagnerrp: | if you want to make sure you immediately add a link for every new recording, configure it to run as a system event for that specific recording |
| [04:58:17] | Korny: | I'm to lazy to do that :/ |
| [04:58:17] | wagnerrp: | so you're not regenerating the whole directory each time |
| [04:58:44] | Korny: | That and I haven't had much tinkering time with a 1 year old running around |
| [04:59:00] | Korny: | running it as a cron every 10 minutes accomplishes the same thing for me |
| [04:59:05] | Korny: | its just a little dirtier |
| [04:59:21] | wagnerrp: | i suppose |
| [04:59:37] | wagnerrp: | it can get fairly time consuming if you're running multiple different formats, and have a large recording library |
| [05:00:17] | bray90820: | does Mythlink.pl support 0.26 |
| [05:00:23] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:00:57] | wagnerrp: | although now that i think about it, i'm not sure if the times it produces will be local or in UTC |
| [05:01:03] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ^^^ |
| [05:01:17] | bray90820: | then why does it say differently on the wiki |
| [05:01:18] | bray90820: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl |
| [05:01:30] | Korny: | Working fine for me in 0.26 |
| [05:01:32] | wagnerrp: | probably just because no one has updated it |
| [05:01:42] | wagnerrp: | (the wiki, that is) |
| [05:01:49] | Korny: | wagnerrp, I don't have that many recordings maybe 300 |
| [05:01:53] | bray90820: | ahh |
| [05:01:54] | bray90820: | ok |
| [05:02:06] | Korny: | I do a lot fo weekly and daily recordings |
| [05:02:12] | Korny: | or limit of 10 per show |
| [05:02:18] | Korny: | delete the oldest ect |
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| [05:06:17] | bray90820: | one more question |
| [05:06:29] | bray90820: | does mythlink.pl work even if mythtv is not involved |
| [05:06:52] | wagnerrp: | involved... meaning when the backend is not running? |
| [05:07:20] | wagnerrp: | you can have it run independently of the backend through cron |
| [05:07:24] | bray90820: | not running not installed or even if the recordings came from another source |
| [05:07:35] | RobertLaptop: | Any idea why a backend and front compiled from the same code would have the front die complaining about not being able to update the scheme? |
| [05:07:36] | wagnerrp: | but i'm not sure if it pulls program information from the backend or from the database |
| [05:07:47] | wagnerrp: | mythlink.pl operates off the recordings |
| [05:07:54] | wagnerrp: | all recordings come from mythtv internally |
| [05:08:29] | wagnerrp: | the frontend is not allowed to upgrade the schema |
| [05:08:37] | wagnerrp: | only the master backend or mythtv-setup is allowed to do that |
| [05:08:54] | bray90820: | im saying if i recorded it on a different app such as sagetv |
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| [05:09:45] | wagnerrp: | yes, shows recorded outside of mythtv are not available as a mythtv recording, and are not referenced by mythlink.pl |
| [05:09:59] | wagnerrp: | how is mythtv supposed to know anything about a file it didn't record? |
| [05:10:07] | bray90820: | ok now here is another question |
| [05:10:40] | wagnerrp: | mythtv can use files sourced outside of itself, but those are handled through the video library |
| [05:10:45] | wagnerrp: | they are not treated as recordings |
| [05:10:55] | bray90820: | if i were to record something with mythtv and then transfer it to another computer without mythtv would Mythlink.pl still work |
| [05:11:25] | Korny: | bray90820, if you recorded using sagetv(I'm a sagetv convert) you would have to enter it into video's |
| [05:11:43] | wagnerrp: | mythlink.pl uses metadata pulled from mythtv, meaning it will only work on a machine running mythtv |
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| [05:11:45] | Korny: | There is an py script that will add it to recordings but its dirty and not recommended |
| [05:11:58] | bray90820: | lol wasn't talking about sagetv specifically just any other app that isn't mythtv |
| [05:12:09] | wagnerrp: | however, after you run mythlink.pl, you can copy those links in a manner that you copy the original file |
| [05:12:36] | wagnerrp: | you copy the original file through the symlink, keeping the symlink's filename |
| [05:12:51] | bray90820: | so with the backend off it wouldn't work |
| [05:13:12] | wagnerrp: | i'm not certain if mythlink.pl pulls data from the database, or from mythbackend |
| [05:13:40] | Korny: | Doesn't it use sql calls? |
| [05:13:57] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure |
| [05:14:12] | bray90820: | nether am i |
| [05:14:20] | Korny: | well open it up and look lol |
| [05:15:16] | wagnerrp: | it pulls all metadata from the backend |
| [05:15:34] | bray90820: | well i can't because i dont even know what that even means |
| [05:15:41] | wagnerrp: | the only thing it pulls directly from the database are the storage group definitions, so it knows the root paths in which to search for the recordings |
| [05:15:56] | bray90820: | so if backend is off? |
| [05:15:59] | Korny: | So yes the backend needs to be runnign |
| [05:16:05] | wagnerrp: | then mythlink.pl will not work |
| [05:16:20] | Korny: | but why not keep it running, its pretty resource light when not doing anything |
| [05:16:53] | bray90820: | i will keep is running i was just wondering if i transfered it to a different computer if it would still work |
| [05:17:18] | wagnerrp: | if the other computer has access to mythbackend, and the recordings are in the same paths as on the backend, yes |
| [05:17:32] | bray90820: | what if i used a different backend |
| [05:17:44] | wagnerrp: | the other backend would not know what those recordings were |
| [05:18:01] | bray90820: | alright |
| [05:18:13] | bray90820: | i think i have enough information now |
| [05:18:17] | wagnerrp: | note that mythtv allows you to operate in a clustered manner |
| [05:18:26] | wagnerrp: | so you can have two linked backends, sharing a single database |
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| [05:18:45] | bray90820: | yea |
| [05:18:49] | wagnerrp: | but there is no mechanism to allow you to transfer recordings between independent backends |
| [05:19:20] | bray90820: | could i backup my backend incase i need to reinstall the os |
| [05:19:46] | wagnerrp: | everything you would need to back up is stored in the database |
| [05:20:01] | wagnerrp: | so make a dump of the database, move your recordings somewhere else temporarily, and you're good |
| [05:20:17] | bray90820: | os it's possible? |
| [05:20:40] | bray90820: | so it's possible? |
| [05:20:48] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will automatically make a dump of the database any time it attempts to upgrade the schema |
| [05:21:07] | wagnerrp: | and it is recommended you make periodic dumps on your own, should you lose a hard drive or something |
| [05:21:25] | bray90820: | so the dumps are the backup |
| [05:21:50] | bray90820: | ? |
| [05:21:57] | wagnerrp: | a "dump" is taking the entire contents of the database, and dumping it to a text file full of SQL |
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| [05:22:15] | wagnerrp: | when you rerun that SQL, it recreates the database as it was at the time of the dump |
| [05:22:30] | bray90820: | ok |
| [05:23:24] | bray90820: | so i think i am good to go |
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| [05:24:43] | bray90820: | but knowing me i will prob be back with more questions |
| [05:30:19] | bray90820: | mythlink.pl --link [destination directory] |
| [05:30:29] | bray90820: | is the destination directory the directory of the video files? |
| [05:30:53] | wagnerrp: | no, it's the directory it will be creating symlinks in |
| [05:31:25] | wagnerrp: | it finds the recording files on its own |
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| [05:32:55] | bray90820: | well the wiki is pretty much no help then |
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| [05:33:21] | wagnerrp: | the wiki is basically a copy of what you get from running 'mythlink.pl --help' |
| [05:33:21] | bray90820: | i dont really even know where to start |
| [05:33:54] | wagnerrp: | do you have any recordings yet? |
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| [05:34:31] | bray90820: | yes |
| [05:34:34] | bray90820: | 1 recording |
| [05:34:44] | wagnerrp: | so choose a directory you want to create the symlinks in |
| [05:34:55] | wagnerrp: | and run 'mythlink.pl --link <your directory>' |
| [05:35:02] | bray90820: | ok |
| [05:35:36] | wagnerrp: | --link, --destination, and --path all do the same thing |
| [05:36:06] | bray90820: | in a text file right? |
| [05:36:17] | wagnerrp: | a text file? |
| [05:36:35] | wagnerrp: | what text file? |
| [05:36:35] | bray90820: | should i add |
| [05:36:36] | bray90820: | mythlink.pl --link <your directory>' |
| [05:36:42] | bray90820: | in a text file |
| [05:36:43] | wagnerrp: | no, run that on the terminal |
| [05:36:52] | bray90820: | ahh ok |
| [05:37:23] | bray90820: | is it ok if i do it on a different computer |
| [05:37:28] | bray90820: | it's a shared directory |
| [05:37:43] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:38:00] | wagnerrp: | well... it depends |
| [05:38:04] | bray90820: | even if the directory is shared by both computers |
| [05:38:11] | wagnerrp: | what kind of shared directory? |
| [05:38:17] | wagnerrp: | NFS? CIFS? |
| [05:38:25] | bray90820: | samba |
| [05:38:30] | wagnerrp: | CIFS |
| [05:38:47] | bray90820: | samba |
| [05:39:03] | wagnerrp: | in that case, probably not... windows doesn't really support symlinks in the same way as POSIX systems, so in turn, neither do CIFS/samba |
| [05:39:22] | wagnerrp: | if you were using NFS, you could create the symlinks on that directory |
| [05:39:26] | bray90820: | it's not windows |
| [05:39:35] | bray90820: | smb is wondows |
| [05:39:40] | bray90820: | samba is linux |
| [05:39:57] | wagnerrp: | however for the remote machine to use it, you would also need to share and mount the recording directory on the remote machine |
| [05:40:02] | bray90820: | you know what i'll just do it on the same computer |
| [05:40:03] | wagnerrp: | CIFS is the name for the protocol |
| [05:40:35] | wagnerrp: | where ever those links are dereferenced, you must have access to those recordings |
| [05:41:05] | wagnerrp: | if you share the symlink directory using samba on the machine holding the recordings, you can configure samba to dereference locally |
| [05:41:15] | wagnerrp: | making the recordings available remotely over samba |
| [05:41:45] | wagnerrp: | by default, there is a configuration parameter "unix extensions" that is enabled that will cause the symlinks to be dereferenced on the remote client |
| [05:41:55] | wagnerrp: | which would require the recordings also be mounted on the remote client to allow that to occur |
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| [05:55:09] | bray90820: | prob a dumb question but i ran mythlink.pl --link <your directory> on my backend machine and it said mythlink.pl command not found |
| [05:55:41] | wagnerrp: | had you placed mythlink.pl in some directory contained with your $PATH variable? |
| [05:55:57] | bray90820: | hang on |
| [05:56:01] | ** bray90820 is away ** | |
| [06:02:50] | runelind: | I am running into a problem with my myth backend having version 1307 of the database while most of the front-ends seemingly supporting 1299 only |
| [06:08:33] | wagnerrp: | means you're trying to run two different versions |
| [06:09:53] | runelind: | yeah |
| [06:10:14] | runelind: | was just trying to use the livecd version of mythbuntu |
| [06:10:22] | runelind: | going to install it to disk and see if I can update it |
| [06:22:14] | ** bray90820 is back ** | |
| [06:22:28] | bray90820: | so is mythlink.pl a file? |
| [06:22:41] | wagnerrp: | yes, a text file, a perl script |
| [06:23:14] | bray90820: | where would i get that from |
| [06:23:29] | bray90820: | this is why the wiki is no help |
| [06:23:44] | wagnerrp: | the wiki assumes basic linux knowledge |
| [06:24:07] | bray90820: | i do have linux knoldge |
| [06:24:53] | wagnerrp: | no offense, but the evidence would say otherwise |
| [06:25:11] | wagnerrp: | you may run a ubuntu desktop, but you don't actually have to understand linux to run ubuntu |
| [06:25:20] | wagnerrp: | symlinks and perl scripts are pretty basic things |
| [06:26:22] | bray90820: | well i already setup a samba/dnla/daapd server and have basic terminal knowledge |
| [06:27:40] | bray90820: | but perl knowledge i have none |
| [06:28:05] | wagnerrp: | you don't have to know perl, just recognize that ".pl" means "perl script" |
| [06:28:32] | wagnerrp: | some further information, files must be executable "chmod +x" in order to be executed |
| [06:28:47] | bray90820: | well i already assumed it was a script |
| [06:28:55] | wagnerrp: | and at the top of the script file, you will see what is called the bang, or shebang, or hashbang line |
| [06:28:59] | bray90820: | but where i get the script from i dont know |
| [06:29:04] | wagnerrp: | it starts with a #! |
| [06:29:10] | bray90820: | yes |
| [06:29:29] | wagnerrp: | the path following that will be run when you run the script, and it will be used as the interpreter as the script |
| [06:29:34] | wagnerrp: | so you do not have to call out perl directly |
| [06:29:48] | wagnerrp: | *interpreter for the script |
| [06:30:01] | bray90820: | ok but that doesn't really answer my question |
| [06:30:10] | wagnerrp: | anyway, the script should be packaged somewhere with mythtv, where ever the 'contrib' folder got sent |
| [06:30:13] | bray90820: | where do i get the script from |
| [06:30:22] | wagnerrp: | if you can't find it, go to the repo |
| [06:30:36] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . /mythlink.pl |
| [06:33:25] | bray90820: | i found it and copied it into the mythlink folder |
| [06:34:31] | wagnerrp: | what mythlink folder? |
| [06:35:21] | bray90820: | destination directory |
| [06:35:34] | wagnerrp: | it can go where ever you want, it doesn't need to be in the destination directory |
| [06:35:55] | bray90820: | well that's what i did |
| [06:36:07] | bray90820: | just to keep it organized |
| [06:36:28] | wagnerrp: | if you want to call a script by name, it must be in a directory listed in your $PATH |
| [06:36:43] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you must give a full path to the file |
| [06:36:45] | bray90820: | ugh |
| [06:36:52] | bray90820: | what is $path |
| [06:36:58] | wagnerrp: | echo $PATH |
| [06:36:59] | bray90820: | $PATH |
| [06:37:07] | bray90820: | ok |
| [06:37:17] | wagnerrp: | it's the search path that your shell will search for executables within |
| [06:37:34] | wagnerrp: | if you just give a filename, that file must exist within one of those directories |
| [06:37:47] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you must give the path to it |
| [06:38:01] | wagnerrp: | if it's in the current directory, you would do "./mythlink.pl' |
| [06:38:28] | wagnerrp: | or "/absolute/path/to/mythlink.pl' |
| [06:39:26] | wagnerrp: | but if there's no slashes to denote a path, it must exist in one of the $PATH directories |
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| [06:42:58] | bray90820: | so i can put it in anyone of those echoed folders |
| [06:43:16] | bray90820: | ? |
| [06:43:23] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [06:43:40] | wagnerrp: | or, you can add another folder to that variable |
| [06:44:00] | wagnerrp: | and have it be included in the executable search |
| [06:44:16] | bray90820: | alright |
| [06:44:23] | wagnerrp: | to make that change permanent, you would need to edit your shell config file |
| [06:44:33] | wagnerrp: | probably ~/.bash_profile |
| [06:44:58] | wagnerrp: | which is a bash script that gets automatically loaded when you run the bash shell |
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| [06:50:03] | bray90820: | ~/.bash_profile did not work |
| [06:50:56] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what you mean |
| [06:51:48] | bray90820: | i ran that command in the terminal and it did not work |
| [06:52:03] | wagnerrp: | that's not a command, that's a file |
| [06:52:30] | bray90820: | oh |
| [06:52:34] | bray90820: | now i get it |
| [06:52:43] | wagnerrp: | it might not be the right one |
| [06:52:57] | wagnerrp: | i'm not certain what file bash loads, i don't typically use bash |
| [06:53:03] | bray90820: | how would i know then |
| [06:54:33] | wagnerrp: | consult the man page |
| [06:54:38] | wagnerrp: | 'man bash' |
| [06:54:47] | wagnerrp: | associated files are typically listed at the bottom |
| [06:54:56] | wagnerrp: | and at least here, it says ~/.bash_profile |
| [06:55:50] | bray90820: | ugh this is a lot of work |
| [06:56:35] | bray90820: | creating mythlink.pl that is |
| [06:56:41] | wagnerrp: | this is all basic linux knowledge, and would be second nature to someone who uses linux |
| [06:56:55] | bray90820: | yea |
| [06:56:59] | wagnerrp: | technically, this is actually POSIX/Unix behavior, not specifically linux behavior |
| [06:57:15] | wagnerrp: | most typical unix systems will behave similarly |
| [06:57:40] | bray90820: | hey i'm sorry to ask this but does someone just wanna do it for me in teamviewer |
| [06:57:45] | bray90820: | its ok of no one does |
| [06:57:51] | wagnerrp: | i'm about to go to bed |
| [06:58:13] | bray90820: | tomorrow? |
| [06:58:34] | wagnerrp: | i'd rather not |
| [06:58:55] | bray90820: | alright |
| [06:59:00] | bray90820: | that's fine |
| [06:59:06] | wagnerrp: | basically, my point is that there is a difference between "running linux", and running a system that just happens to use linux |
| [06:59:07] | bray90820: | i might just find another way to do it |
| [06:59:36] | wagnerrp: | android phones run linux, NAS units often run linux, but using them doesn't mean you know how to use any other linux system, you only know how to use their suite of tools |
| [06:59:46] | bray90820: | like have it automatically name it by the date created or something |
| [06:59:50] | wagnerrp: | same thing with the assorted config GUIs on ubuntu |
| [07:00:05] | wagnerrp: | you may have used them, but that doesn't mean you got into the fundamentals of the system |
| [07:00:17] | bray90820: | i mean i know simple things but i am no scriptor |
| [07:00:31] | drussell_: | runelind: re: recording being cut short, having to change to LiveTV or restart recording... I observed this behavior last weekend where "scrolling off the end" of the in-progress-recording killed the player and in some circumstances aborted the recording... It's not supposed to do that and we're in the process of tryting to debug it over othe developer channel.... |
| [07:00:40] | bray90820: | such as ssh/chmod/chown etc |
| [07:00:56] | wagnerrp: | ubuntu typically does a good job about making it unnecessary to access those sorts of things |
| [07:01:17] | bray90820: | i can tell |
| [07:01:20] | wagnerrp: | but the problem with a GUI is always that anything not explicitly programmed into the GUI is going to require you go into things at a low level |
| [07:01:42] | wagnerrp: | and if you've always used the GUI, you're lacking in the experience to do anything at a low level |
| [07:01:43] | bray90820: | i might know about linux and run it but i am by no means a master |
| [07:02:28] | bray90820: | the main reason i run it on my server is because it's a LOT cheeper then windows server |
| [07:04:58] | bray90820: | Anyone else wanna do it for me? |
| [07:05:05] | bray90820: | it's ok to say no |
| [07:06:06] | bray90820: | you know what |
| [07:06:24] | bray90820: | i just found out i don't need to use mythlink.pl |
| [07:06:49] | bray90820: | i was going to have myth.pl date the file but i found out the default name is the date |
| [07:07:10] | wagnerrp: | chanid and starttime, yes |
| [07:07:18] | bray90820: | start time hum |
| [07:07:23] | bray90820: | let me look at that |
| [07:07:32] | wagnerrp: | starttime defined as year/month/day/hour/minute/second, in UTC |
| [07:07:33] | drussell_: | bray90820: Channel and DateTime, yes.... |
| [07:08:03] | wagnerrp: | do note that is IS in UTC, and not the local timezone |
| [07:08:13] | wagnerrp: | (assuming you're running 0.26+) |
| [07:09:04] | bray90820: | i am actually running 0.25 |
| [07:09:14] | bray90820: | i herd there were probelumes with 0.26 |
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| [07:09:58] | wagnerrp: | there are problems in every version, but some people are having problems with livetv in 0.26 |
| [07:10:27] | bray90820: | someone here a while ago was saying 0.25 was the most stable |
| [07:11:15] | wagnerrp: | i haven't had my backend crash in years (when it wasn't my fault for screwing with the code) |
| [07:11:44] | bray90820: | do you by chance know what number utc is |
| [07:11:55] | wagnerrp: | +0000 |
| [07:12:14] | bray90820: | so it's 6 hours different then me |
| [07:12:15] | wagnerrp: | that's the definition, no offset |
| [07:12:19] | bray90820: | alright |
| [07:12:29] | bray90820: | i think i will stick with the default |
| [07:12:32] | wagnerrp: | if you're central time zone, it would be six ahead of you |
| [07:12:44] | bray90820: | yes |
| [07:13:39] | bray90820: | prob not but is there a way to change the deafult to just have the date |
| [07:13:55] | wagnerrp: | the default filename? no, it is hard coded |
| [07:14:06] | bray90820: | alright |
| [07:14:09] | bray90820: | just asking |
| [07:14:10] | wagnerrp: | it's intentionally set to something that will ensure a unique filename |
| [07:14:26] | wagnerrp: | with little concern for manual usability |
| [07:15:10] | bray90820: | i think i can get by with the deafult |
| [07:15:29] | drussell_: | If not, that's what mythlink.pl is for.... :-) |
| [07:15:39] | bray90820: | yes |
| [07:15:47] | Korny: | wagnerrp, this may be a little delayed, but the only issues with live TV that I've had in 0.26 is the tuner selection issue, but thats been an issue for a while |
| [07:16:15] | Korny: | I'm not sure if it will ever be fixed :/ |
| [07:16:29] | wagnerrp: | selection issue how? |
| [07:16:32] | bray90820: | altho i will have to create a new profile for every season pass i have |
| [07:16:36] | Korny: | I even have the prioties reversed, one tuner is 1 for live and 3 for recording |
| [07:16:38] | drussell_: | Korny: Analog sections of Hauppage cards and possibly others are broken in LiveTV, other than that 0.26 is quite usable for most.... |
| [07:17:11] | Korny: | If watching live TV it asks me if I want to record seleted, go back to main menu or cancel recording |
| [07:17:12] | wagnerrp: | Korny: just how it can interfere with recordings? |
| [07:17:17] | wagnerrp: | ah, yes |
| [07:17:21] | Korny: | even if I hae 2 other tuners avaialble |
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| [07:17:33] | Korny: | Well in my case 3 if OTA |
| [07:17:44] | wagnerrp: | well you only have one tuner to choose from |
| [07:17:49] | wagnerrp: | one digital, one analog |
| [07:17:59] | wagnerrp: | so it's not like it could choose another tuner |
| [07:18:02] | Korny: | I eh? I have an HD home prime |
| [07:18:05] | Korny: | and 2 HD HR's |
| [07:18:19] | wagnerrp: | who am i thinking of that had a HVR-1600 |
| [07:18:44] | wagnerrp: | no matter... |
| [07:18:45] | Korny: | I have my prioties set up 1–4 and the inverse 4–1 on my HD HR's |
| [07:18:52] | Korny: | Its not a big issue, just annoying |
| [07:19:04] | Korny: | Live vs recording |
| [07:19:22] | wagnerrp: | well the fact that you can now independently control the ordering should have relieved the issue some since 0.25 |
| [07:19:37] | Korny: | I'ts gotten better though, I don't get it at every 1/2 hour now |
| [07:19:57] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i've never actually seen that dialog |
| [07:20:00] | wagnerrp: | but then i rarely use livetv |
| [07:20:16] | Korny: | I use live TV very rarely, its more my wife who gets it |
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| [07:20:34] | Korny: | I have all my daily shows recording and keeping 2 days worth |
| [07:21:44] | Korny: | again I still wish the android app for mythtv worked :/ |
| [07:26:09] | runelind: | hrm, not looking good in getting mythbuntu to work with my backend running DB Schema 1307 |
| [07:26:27] | runelind: | I did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade after install, but still getting the same error message. |
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| [07:30:46] | runelind: | activated the mythbuntu upgrade repos |
| [07:42:15] | Korny: | runelind, fresh install? |
| [07:42:49] | runelind: | Korny: yeah |
| [07:43:24] | runelind: | think I need to upgrade to 0.26, but not having much success. |
| [07:43:27] | Korny: | Is the front ends that are complaining or the backends? |
| [07:43:33] | Korny: | backend * |
| [07:43:49] | runelind: | my mythbuntu frontend |
| [07:44:19] | Korny: | What version are both of em? |
| [07:44:24] | runelind: | I'm running 0.26 on the backend |
| [07:44:35] | runelind: | 12.04.1 for mythbuntu, I think it comes with 0.25 |
| [07:44:36] | Korny: | Thne you need to run .26 on the frontends |
| [07:44:45] | runelind: | yeah, that's what I'm trying to upgrade to. |
| [07:44:54] | Korny: | Easy, are you running mythbuntu? |
| [07:44:56] | runelind: | I picked the 0.26 release in control-centre |
| [07:45:07] | runelind: | aye |
| [07:45:19] | Korny: | did you press apply after selecting 0.26? |
| [07:45:34] | Korny: | or save I forget what exactly it says |
| [07:45:53] | runelind: | yes, then went into update manager |
| [07:46:10] | Korny: | did you do sudo apt-get update? |
| [07:46:28] | runelind: | yes, it seemed to update some stuff to 0.26, but not all. |
| [07:46:44] | Korny: | reboot the frontend? |
| [07:47:05] | runelind: | yeah, that's my next thing. |
| [07:47:07] | Korny: | I remeber having some issues goign to 0.26 with the front ends complaining about updating the schema |
| [07:48:39] | runelind: | appears to be working now. |
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| [08:09:46] | runelind: | wow, playback is a slideshow :( |
| [08:10:10] | runelind: | even though going through the setup wizard and watching the 1080p file fine using VDPAU |
| [08:14:33] | runelind: | that's better, used the wrong VDPAU profile |
| [08:15:12] | runelind: | ok bedtime. |
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| [09:41:42] | Bray90820: | something that i just found out that might be beneficial to other people |
| [09:42:11] | Bray90820: | apparently if you use xbmc as a frontend the naming scheme is dont for you |
| [09:42:29] | Bray90820: | altho the raw file still has the weird name |
| [09:42:34] | Bray90820: | done |
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| [15:09:52] | PF: | I'm trying to solve an upgrade from 0.25 to 0.26 problem as described in the mailing list |
| [15:13:04] | PF: | Anyone fancy trying to help? |
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| [16:12:19] | danverde: | how do I get channel updates to work with mythfilldatabase? --do-channel-updates runs, but I do not get the new channels that are listed in my schedules direct account |
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| [16:21:34] | tonsofpcs: | I think you need to scan/add them first... |
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| [16:22:55] | drussell_: | danverde: Did you re-do the "fetch channels from listing source" in the "video Sources" section of mythtv-setup for that source? |
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| [16:30:10] | Tobbe5178: | i have been testing the iptv recorder and i almost got it to work |
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| [16:30:37] | Tobbe5178: | problem is that when i add the channel changer script backend dont get any data and i need to debug this |
| [16:30:53] | Tobbe5178: | data is being streamed to the backend |
| [16:31:24] | Tobbe5178: | all i get is "(_LAM) partial lock" and then nothing |
| [16:31:29] | Tobbe5178: | any advice? |
| [16:40:03] | wagnerrp: | danverde: is this with a cablecard tuner? |
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| [16:46:26] | Quantum7: | Anyone know whether I can set the backend to listen to multiple IP's? |
| [16:46:40] | wagnerrp: | no. currently just the one |
| [16:46:51] | Quantum7: | Brp... |
| [16:47:03] | wagnerrp: | there is only one address stored in the database that the frontend will attempt to use to connect to the backend |
| [16:47:15] | wagnerrp: | so there is currently no need for the backend to listen on more than that one address |
| [16:47:36] | Quantum7: | OK so I have to set up a reverse SSH tunnel to the tablet for the Android app. |
| [16:47:48] | Quantum7: | ... like I have everywhere else. |
| [16:48:23] | Quantum7: | Might be a nuisance to keep it up when the tablet sleeps. |
| [16:50:24] | wagnerrp: | your backend is dual-homed and acting as your internet gateway? |
| [16:50:46] | Quantum7: | N, it's only listening on localhost. |
| [16:51:08] | wagnerrp: | then why would you need to listen on two addresses? |
| [16:51:19] | wagnerrp: | just tell it to listen on your local private network address |
| [16:51:38] | Quantum7: | I wanted to avoid a reverse ssh tunnel on the android tablet. |
| [16:51:53] | Quantum7: | I consider that not secure. |
| [16:52:12] | Quantum7: | Never know what buffer overflows there might lurk in the backend. |
| [16:52:16] | wagnerrp: | i'm not understanding what you're trying to do |
| [16:52:30] | Quantum7: | Myth listens on localhost. |
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| [16:52:48] | wagnerrp: | localhost, and one other address you specify in mythtv-setup |
| [16:53:02] | Quantum7: | From clients I set up a reverse ssh tunnel to the myth server, which causes the remote server to look like it's local. |
| [16:53:07] | wagnerrp: | it always listens on localhost, it will additionally listen on the address listed in mythtv-setup |
| [16:53:24] | Quantum7: | O? |
| [16:53:58] | wagnerrp: | if the address listed in mythtv-setup happens to be 127.0.0.1, which is the default, then it will only listen on localhost |
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| [16:54:39] | Quantum7: | Well I have to think about that. May open up a hole to listen on a LAN IP. |
| [16:55:03] | wagnerrp: | you probably shouldn't |
| [16:55:22] | wagnerrp: | the android app likely uses the services API, and may access the database directly |
| [16:55:33] | wagnerrp: | mysql should never be opened to the internet |
| [16:55:45] | wagnerrp: | and since the services api has no authentication, it should not be opened to the internet either |
| [16:55:48] | Quantum7: | Yea, I guess a reverse ssh tunnel to the tablet. |
| [16:56:15] | Quantum7: | ... like the others. |
| [16:56:41] | Quantum7: | Maybe I should concentrate on how to bring the tunnel back automatically after a sleep. |
| [16:57:32] | Quantum7: | /etc/network/if-up.d certainly doesn't work as advertised... |
| [16:57:36] | wagnerrp: | if you think you're up to it, some kind of asymmetric authentication/encryption mechanism in the integrated web server would be a welcome addition |
| [16:58:34] | wagnerrp: | something similar to the RSA auto-login mechanism for SSH |
| [16:58:38] | Quantum7: | I'm not a coder. (altho I am a "Certified Ethical Hacker") And that would only be auth, wouldn't address buffer overflows. |
| [16:58:59] | Quantum7: | Need to go through SSH. |
| [16:59:03] | wagnerrp: | have the client store a key in a file, or maybe a cookie |
| [16:59:10] | wagnerrp: | use that key to authenticate further connections |
| [16:59:22] | Quantum7: | Server is still open. |
| [16:59:32] | tonsofpcs: | Quantum7: who certified you? |
| [16:59:41] | Quantum7: | EC Council. |
| [16:59:53] | wagnerrp: | can can you be a "hacker" if you can't program? |
| [16:59:58] | wagnerrp: | s/can/how/ |
| [17:00:09] | wagnerrp: | i mean, that's the very definition of a hacker |
| [17:00:10] | Quantum7: | I am a talented hacker. |
| [17:00:24] | wagnerrp: | you hack together... programs |
| [17:00:40] | Quantum7: | I don't have time to discuss that. |
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| [17:01:20] | wagnerrp: | o... k... |
| [17:01:45] | wagnerrp: | well that was strange |
| [17:02:29] | tgm4883: | lol |
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| [17:02:46] | wagnerrp: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Ethical_Hacker |
| [17:03:54] | wagnerrp: | i would expect someone with that profession to do a bit more research into the communication mechanisms used by mythtv before asking questions in here... |
| [17:04:32] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, well, he never said he was employed |
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| [17:05:08] | wagnerrp: | i mean the basic concepts and fear of "buffer overflows" didn't seem to make sense |
| [17:05:37] | wagnerrp: | if there are buffer overflows in the web server, then you should well fix them, lest clients inadvertently trigger them and break things |
| [17:06:20] | wagnerrp: | but if you're putting in an authentication mechanism and are only concerned by intentional fuzzing, then that's a relatively limited amount of code you need to review |
| [17:06:31] | wagnerrp: | you're only concerned about unauthenticated users causing trouble |
| [17:06:38] | tonsofpcs: | hmm, xbmc decided it doesn't want to push audio out HDMI.... myth still does... |
| [17:07:11] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: meaning it's simply not working, or xbmc explicitly doesn't do that? |
| [17:07:15] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, It's probably just a case of "I'm an ethical hacker because I installed backtrack" |
| [17:07:43] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: check the link... apparently it's an actual certification program, with tests and everything |
| [17:07:59] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, oh I know, there are certifications for everything |
| [17:08:08] | tgm4883: | that doesn't mean they are worth anything |
| [17:08:21] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: any chance xbmc was set up to use pulseaudio, and mythtv disabled pulseaudio so it could access alsa directly, screwing up xbmc? |
| [17:08:44] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I mean, personally I've not heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC-Council |
| [17:08:59] | wagnerrp: | neither have i |
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| [17:09:51] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I mean, if you give me $200, I'll make you a "Certified Mythbuntu User" |
| [17:10:25] | sheppard: | $199 |
| [17:10:29] | neufeld: | For $150 I'll make you Super-Certified. |
| [17:10:41] | neufeld: | I sense a free-market problem with this |
| [17:10:53] | wagnerrp: | for $100, i'll make you home-premium certified |
| [17:11:39] | tgm4883: | but then you don't get the "Mythbuntu Developer Stamp of Meaningfulness" |
| [17:13:58] | tgm4883: | hmm, there seems to be a Raymond battle on the mailing list about scheduling data and when to pull it |
| [17:17:33] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I recall us talking about the nillable attribute in the WSDL and if that was set to 1 that option may not be required |
| [17:17:37] | wagnerrp: | he wants Tribune to rework their datadirect service? |
| [17:17:39] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, that doesn't seem to be the case |
| [17:17:52] | Phiro: | I have a couple day old Mythbuntu install, all the basic stuff works fine. is there an easy way to use the unity desktop without screwing up my install? |
| [17:18:00] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, yes, his idea is obviously much better. Because you only have to worry about football games |
| [17:18:07] | wagnerrp: | of course |
| [17:18:24] | tgm4883: | Phiro, I'm not sure that works |
| [17:18:34] | tgm4883: | well actually, yea you could do that |
| [17:18:45] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: no idea. It used to work fine. I imagine xbmc's self-update of plugins broke something... I'm too lazy to fix it right now, using optical |
| [17:19:30] | tgm4883: | Phiro, your talking about how Unity goes over mythfrontend right? |
| [17:19:55] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, so there are mythtv services that have nillable = 1 for every option |
| [17:19:57] | Phiro: | Well, only when the front end is shut down. What's the desktop that is being used by default? x.org or something? |
| [17:19:59] | tgm4883: | where it doesn't make sense |
| [17:20:12] | tgm4883: | Phiro, on Mythbuntu, XFCE |
| [17:20:48] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, for instance, AddRecordSchedule has everything set nillable=1, which doesn't make sense |
| [17:21:13] | Phiro: | Ahh, hmm. I'll look into changing it abit then. Thanks, tgm4883. |
| [17:23:36] | wagnerrp: | is it possible everything can be empty, but not at the same time? |
| [17:24:38] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, hmm |
| [17:24:48] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I suppose that is a possibility |
| [17:24:49] | tonsofpcs: | also audio drift in xbmc.... hmm... not following PTSs maybe... oh well, I'll yell at them ;) |
| [17:25:14] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, i was trying to figure out if some fields were required by comparing it to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Record_table |
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| [17:33:52] | runelind: | so mythbuntu locks up when changing HD channels, I don't think that's desired behavior ;p |
| [17:34:10] | dcope: | Hey all, I'm trying to setup myth. I have an elgato eyetv 250 but the mythsetup doesn't seem to detect it. Any ideas? |
| [17:35:04] | wagnerrp: | dcope: does linux even detect it? |
| [17:35:39] | wagnerrp: | we don't do drivers and hardware support, we just use the standard Linux V4L2/DVB interfaces |
| [17:35:54] | wagnerrp: | so whatever hardware the linuxtv project supports, we can use |
| [17:35:55] | dcope: | wagnerrp: The wiki says since 2.5 |
| [17:35:58] | dcope: | er 2.6 |
| [17:36:18] | wagnerrp: | what wiki? |
| [17:36:34] | dcope: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices |
| [17:37:45] | wagnerrp: | i see mention of the EyeTV DTT being supported, but nothing about the 250 |
| [17:37:56] | wagnerrp: | i do see this though... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Elgato_EyeTV_250 |
| [17:38:05] | wagnerrp: | "Not supported under any existing Linux driver at the moment." |
| [17:38:45] | dcope: | wagnerrp: interesting... i could not find this page. |
| [17:39:06] | dcope: | thanks |
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| [17:43:27] | dcope: | wagnerrp: is there a page with the most popular pci e tuners? |
| [17:43:36] | dcope: | now that i'm going to need to buy a new one, i will prefer to buy the one that is most supported |
| [17:45:46] | wagnerrp: | the eyetv 250 appears to be an ATSC tuner? |
| [17:46:02] | dcope: | i believe so |
| [17:46:52] | wagnerrp: | do you need analog? or just digital? |
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| [17:46:58] | dcope: | just digital |
| [17:47:06] | wagnerrp: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_PCIe_Cards |
| [17:47:06] | dcope: | wagnerrp: tbh, i just need one channel (local fox) for sports |
| [17:47:22] | dcope: | thanks |
| [17:47:25] | wagnerrp: | personally, i've got a HVR-1250 and a HDHomeRun |
| [17:47:34] | wagnerrp: | can't say anything on the other devices on that list |
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| [18:28:15] | runelind: | what would be a good place to troubleshoot my channel-change lockups? |
| [18:28:23] | runelind: | it appears to be when I go from HD channel to HD channel. |
| [18:28:50] | runelind: | I can change to an SD channel |
| [18:29:16] | runelind: | even after the front end locks up when tryin to change to an HD channel |
| [18:30:09] | runelind: | hrm, maybe I'm being an idiot... |
| [18:30:48] | runelind: | never mind, carry on. |
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| [19:26:11] | Phiro: | So, is there a wiki page on the types of video formats mythtv/mythbuntu supports? I turned on sharing, and I see a \videos folder shared, and I'm wondering what I can drag in there and watch. |
| [19:27:01] | wagnerrp: | the video library should support just about any common format |
| [19:27:17] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses the ffmpeg decoder libraries, so anything ffmpeg supports, we should be able to handle |
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| [19:33:27] | Phiro: | kk thx, I'll try something. |
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| [19:40:28] | Phiro: | So far I've been fairly impressed with mythtv/mythbuntu. I tried doing ubuntu 12.10 + mythtv, then switched to mythbuntu when I got lost. |
| [19:42:04] | Phiro: | I bought a brand new a-series cpu/gpu and motherboard for this, and all the hardware has been detected & supported just fine. The hardest thing so far was learning the hauppage 2250 card needed a firmware file copied into /lib/firmware. |
| [19:43:25] | wagnerrp: | the CPUs are fine, but generally AMD graphics are recommended against |
| [19:43:57] | Phiro: | DirectTV is $120/month and they want to charge me $500 to "rewire" my house to the latest standard if I want to add another room or upgrade my DVR; I was able to get a few hundred dollars in seed money from the wife to try out a replacement for directtv. |
| [19:44:28] | wagnerrp: | mythtv isn't a replacement for directtv, you still need to get content from somewhere |
| [19:44:31] | Phiro: | wagner: I bought the $55 a-series to keep the price down, and so far it's been pretty OK, but maybe I haven't gotten to a spot where it gets pushed hard. |
| [19:44:33] | lucas^: | does directtv give out cablecards? |
| [19:44:51] | wagnerrp: | no, the only way to use dish/directv is analog capture off one of their receivers |
| [19:44:58] | Phiro: | All we do is DVR broadcast TV shows, and use netflix instant watch on our blu-ray player. |
| [19:45:15] | Phiro: | So we're not really seeing alot of use out of our $120/month Directtv system. |
| [19:45:45] | Phiro: | Quality time in our household is watching gray's anatomy together on the couch after the kids are in bed :/ |
| [19:47:56] | Phiro: | We live in a pretty rural area, and the cable company with the contract for our town has rebuffed my noob questions – about 4 weeks ago, when I started getting serious about this, I asked them if their signal is unencrypted qam 64 or 256 (or both) and they said "We don't support homeowner equipment". |
| [19:48:37] | Phiro: | So a friend of mine suggested I tell them I have a cablecard tivo, and ask them if they will give me a cablecard, so I tried that and they responded with "Get a new tivo." |
| [19:48:38] | wagnerrp: | they must support homeowner equipment |
| [19:48:50] | wagnerrp: | they are required by law to support any compliant cablecard tuner |
| [19:49:28] | wagnerrp: | if they refuse to support a piece of cablecard equipment, file an fcc complaint |
| [19:49:36] | Phiro: | That's what I thought. We do use hbo2go (or whatever) mainly for Game Of Thrones, and we need something – cable or sat – to subscribe to it, i think. |
| [19:49:57] | wagnerrp: | however just because they do cablecard does not necessarily mean it will be of use to you |
| [19:50:05] | Phiro: | ? |
| [19:50:13] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not licensed by cable labs, so we are not allowed to access DRM'd content |
| [19:50:28] | wagnerrp: | we can access encrypted content from a cablecard tuner if it is marked 'copy freely' |
| [19:50:41] | wagnerrp: | but if it is marked for copy protection, the cablecard tuner will not allow us to receive it |
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| [19:50:55] | Phiro: | ahhh k. |
| [19:51:39] | Phiro: | There's some side benefits of this – my 13 year old is playing minecraft on the tv now ;) |
| [19:54:48] | Phiro: | I've heard of something called WAF – wife acceptance factor ;) I'm currently working on that. I have everything in an old full-size tower case next to the entertainment center; once I can run a decent antenna and get more than 1 channel over the air, I can buy a slimline or htpc case and put it away, and get a wireless keyboard/mouse combo as well. |
| [19:55:49] | Phiro: | Sorry, I'm sure the details of my life are not very scintillating. |
| [19:56:52] | wagnerrp: | note that you don't actually need to have a big machine with tuner cards and hard drives sitting by your tv |
| [19:57:10] | wagnerrp: | you can stick it in another room, or in the basement, with long video cables |
| [19:57:28] | wagnerrp: | or you can take advantage of mythtv's clustered design, and have the frontend physically independent of the backend |
| [19:57:43] | wagnerrp: | turn the backend into a general purpose home server, and stuff it somewhere in your backend |
| [19:57:57] | wagnerrp: | use a small frontend to play content on it remotely |
| [19:58:37] | wagnerrp: | right now, one of my frontends is just a mini-itx board, intel processor/graphics, and some memory |
| [19:58:51] | wagnerrp: | no hard drives, no optical drives, no accessory cards... |
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| [19:59:53] | Phiro: | I overbuilt (if you call a $55 cpu/gpu overbuilt) it on purpose so I could combine the front and and back end for our main TV. The otherside of the wall the tv is hung on is my utility room, where I have all the wiring go to, so I'm going to make a platform for the final myth box back there I think. |
| [20:01:01] | Phiro: | I have a nexus 7" running mythmote just fine, but I think I need an IR blaster setup to control the receiver, mainly for volume control. That's my next hurdle. |
| [20:02:49] | Phiro: | the amd proprietary drivers seem to work OK for me – I had to install some stuff to get audio over HDMI to work, but it works. |
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| [21:20:10] | EvilGuru: | I don't want to alarm anyone in the UK but...Pick TV appears to be starting to broadcast TV that isn't 10 year old reality junk |
| [21:22:45] | justinh: | hahaha |
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| [21:24:38] | EvilGuru: | I now finally have a chance to find out what this 'Game of Thrones' thing is all about |
| [21:31:39] | justinh: | hmm do I need to restart mythfrontend to see keybindings changes? |
| [21:34:16] | EvilGuru: | Unsure, I have always restarted |
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| [21:49:27] | wagnerrp: | there was reality junk 10 years ago? |
| [21:50:07] | wagnerrp: | i guess the truman show kicked off that whole concept, and it was late 90s |
| [21:54:32] | justinh: | hmm since I have 9 rows of 5 buttons I've got a few empty spots to fill |
| [21:55:13] | justinh: | loving this webapp thingy :-) |
| [21:57:16] | justinh: | I really should get my Pi set up properly next |
| [21:57:30] | justinh: | then I'll be able to control everything in this room |
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| [22:37:05] | Shadow__X: | I am having problems with the windows mythtv build script. The script seems to keep hanging even when attempting to setup the build environment and needs to be restarted constantly |
| [22:37:48] | [R]: | its windows... waht do you expet |
| [22:37:51] | [R]: | expect* |
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| [22:39:11] | Shadow__X: | magic |
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| [22:40:02] | wagnerrp: | man... some people.... |
| [22:40:28] | Shadow__X: | me? |
| [22:40:28] | wagnerrp: | tell them they should try using a language that has a proper lexiconal XML parser |
| [22:40:39] | wagnerrp: | and they just start using xmlint in their bash scripts |
| [22:41:33] | [R]: | lo |
| [22:41:34] | [R]: | l |
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| [22:44:27] | wagnerrp: | *lexical |
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| [23:20:38] | Shadow__X: | so far compiling in linux is going much better but there are 2 places where the script needs to be updated mysql-noinstall needs to be updated to 65 and the same for mysql for os x |
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| [23:24:23] | Shadow__X: | also does the script need qt 4.7.0 over 4.7.4 for example or should the latest qt be used qt 5.x |
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