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| [01:34:07] | xuser: | where should I look for the SD listing showing up? |
| [01:35:17] | [R]: | xuser: what? |
| [01:36:15] | xuser: | when i execute mythfilldatabase it looks like its working...grabing info from SD. |
| [01:36:53] | xuser: | i have mythbutu installed |
| [01:36:56] | xuser: | 12.04 |
| [01:37:20] | xuser: | but when I goto to the localhost..there is no programming guide..? |
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| [01:38:15] | neon__: | hi |
| [01:38:20] | neon__: | I am on wheezy now |
| [01:39:12] | [R]: | xuser: when you "go to the localhost"? |
| [01:39:25] | neon__: | please give me a link to a good setup howto? |
| [01:39:42] | [R]: | neon__: huh? |
| [01:40:06] | xuser: | when I point my browser to localhost..and use the myth web ui. |
| [01:40:13] | xuser: | and go under listing.. |
| [01:40:31] | neon__: | [R], moo? |
| [01:40:40] | [R]: | xuser: yes... |
| [01:40:48] | xuser: | There's no guide data available! Have you run mythfilldatabase? |
| [01:40:49] | xuser: | DataDirect Status: Your subscription expires on Sun Jan 5 (2014) 6:53 PM |
| [01:41:17] | [R]: | xuser: run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all and pastebin the output |
| [01:42:57] | neon__: | [R], I want to setup my mythtv |
| [01:43:09] | neon__: | [R], is there a good howto on that that you know? |
| [01:43:20] | [R]: | neon__: of course, the website |
| [01:43:44] | neon__: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ ? |
| [01:43:48] | [R]: | sure |
| [01:44:17] | neon__: | where there? |
| [01:44:46] | neon__: | mythtv work on windows???!!! |
| [01:44:54] | xuser: | http://pastebin.com/wZVNzGLZ |
| [01:46:19] | [R]: | there is a frontend |
| [01:46:21] | [R]: | i dunno how good it is |
| [01:46:22] | [R]: | probably crap |
| [01:46:29] | [R]: | it works best in linux |
| [01:46:38] | [R]: | neon__: you need to read the whole site |
| [01:46:52] | [R]: | xuser: i highly doubt thats all... |
| [01:47:10] | [R]: | 2012-12–30 20:44:01.352625 I No channels are configured to use grabber. |
| [01:47:15] | [R]: | xuser: you didn't configure mythtv properly |
| [01:47:42] | xuser: | Ops..here ..some. |
| [01:48:05] | xuser: | let me redo the pastebin. |
| [01:48:12] | [R]: | it doesnt matter |
| [01:48:15] | [R]: | its not configured |
| [01:48:17] | [R]: | tahts why it doesnt work |
| [01:48:24] | xuser: | what's missing? |
| [01:48:30] | [R]: | everything |
| [01:49:16] | xuser: | it uncompress the feed. |
| [01:49:28] | xuser: | I can add a channel and record and view. |
| [01:50:50] | [R]: | you need to reread the documentation |
| [01:50:54] | [R]: | it explains how to properly set up mythtv |
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| [01:54:17] | wagnerrp: | neon__: the frontend works |
| [01:54:23] | wagnerrp: | the backend... not so much |
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| [02:01:41] | quinten: | i'm trying to set up mythbackend on a headless, archlinux-arm system. i'm looking at the wiki, and it suggests that I need a working X server in order to set it up. is that right? |
| [02:01:46] | quinten: | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MythTV |
| [02:01:53] | quinten: | i'm wondering if this is out of date |
| [02:02:08] | [R]: | you dont |
| [02:02:21] | [R]: | i mean, somewhere you need an x server |
| [02:02:37] | [R]: | but it doesnt necessarily have to be on the same computer as the backend |
| [02:02:50] | neon__: | I have V4LChannel(/dev/video1): Can't open video devic |
| [02:03:00] | [R]: | neon__: that's all it says? |
| [02:03:19] | neon__: | no |
| [02:03:23] | quinten: | ok, if i install the mythtv package (no separate backend/frontend packages for arch) then i just need to install the X server on my windows computer, and export display? |
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| [02:04:49] | neon__: | xawtv show me snow |
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| [02:05:40] | neon__: | from my card |
| [02:05:51] | neon__: | I need to find what my card is called for mythtv |
| [02:05:57] | Unguided: | hello all. Anyone have any ideas about performance between xfs and zfs. Which one is better? |
| [02:06:32] | neon__: | it say /dev/video0 |
| [02:07:04] | neon__: | and mythtv say /dev/video1): Can't open video device. |
| [02:07:12] | neon__: | so sherlock? |
| [02:08:14] | xuser: | it's a bug.. |
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| [02:10:27] | devinheitmueller: | neon__: It's probably the permissions on /dev/video1 are not wrong. |
| [02:10:40] | devinheitmueller: | The user running the mythbackend needs to be able to access the /dev/video1 device. |
| [02:10:48] | devinheitmueller: | (usually by adding that user to the "video" group) |
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| [02:19:46] | neon__: | it tells me to sellect channels on mythtv-setup [yes, no, all none default=no] but it doesnt let me insert a yes |
| [02:20:40] | devinheitmueller: | If it cannot open the video device, all bets are off about being able to do anything else. |
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| [02:26:51] | neon__: | I don't have an antenna , can I cheat it to set some tv channel anyway and see snow? |
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| [02:30:22] | neon__: | xawtv show me snow no problem, why cant myth tv , sure mythtv can how? meaueooo |
| [02:30:39] | neon__: | wooof |
| [02:31:00] | devinheitmueller: | You're running xawtv as *your* user account. MythTV is running as the mythtv user account. |
| [02:31:09] | devinheitmueller: | Hence the permissions are different. |
| [02:31:34] | devinheitmueller: | Your local Linux user account can access /dev/video0. Whatever account the mythbackend process is running as cannot. |
| [02:32:05] | neon__: | devinheitmueller, the problem there was that xawtv run /dev/video0 while myth tried /dev/video1. I changed it to /dev/video0 and now it works, sort off |
| [02:32:39] | devinheitmueller: | Depending on the card, it's likely that /dev/video0 is the *raw* device node and /dev/video1 is for compressed (which is what you want for mythtv) |
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| [02:33:03] | neon__: | hmmm |
| [02:33:12] | neon__: | I have an mpeg encoder |
| [02:33:19] | neon__: | its a pvr2000 |
| [02:33:37] | devinheitmueller: | Yes, and devices that have an onboard mpeg encoder often represent the card with two device nodes. |
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| [02:33:52] | devinheitmueller: | You need to select the correct device node in order to get the mpeg encoder. |
| [02:34:01] | devinheitmueller: | Otherwise you get the raw video capture port on the card. |
| [02:34:10] | neon__: | is V4L the right one? |
| [02:34:14] | devinheitmueller: | Also, did you specify the device type as IVTV? |
| [02:34:21] | devinheitmueller: | No, V4L is for raw capture. You want IVTV. |
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| [02:35:20] | neon__: | I don't see IVTV |
| [02:35:38] | devinheitmueller: | Did you compile mythtv from source? |
| [02:35:41] | devinheitmueller: | It should be there by default. |
| [02:35:57] | devinheitmueller: | It's an alternative to V4L |
| [02:36:30] | neon__: | devinheitmueller, no I got it in a package from deb-multimedia.org for debian wheezy |
| [02:36:38] | devinheitmueller: | that should work then. |
| [02:36:42] | neon__: | I have MPEG-2 encoder card |
| [02:36:44] | devinheitmueller: | You're probably just overlooking it. |
| [02:37:12] | devinheitmueller: | Yes, MPEG-2 encoders are referred to as IVTV devices under MythTV (because the first MPEG encoder cards supported were based on the IVTV chipset) |
| [02:37:15] | neon__: | I have "MPEG-2 encoder card" where V4L is its called "card type:" |
| [02:37:36] | neon__: | so that is the one? |
| [02:37:46] | devinheitmueller: | Yup. |
| [02:37:47] | neon__: | and then choose /dev/video1? |
| [02:37:50] | devinheitmueller: | (maybe they finally renamed it) |
| [02:37:51] | devinheitmueller: | Yes |
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| [02:39:31] | neon__: | on /dev/video1 + MPEG-2 it say Probed info: fails to open |
| [02:39:46] | neon__: | but the permission on both iirc are the same |
| [02:40:06] | devinheitmueller: | What are the permissions set to? |
| [02:40:24] | neon__: | crw-rw---T+ 1 root video 81, 3 Dec 30 03:30 /dev/video1 |
| [02:40:34] | devinheitmueller: | And what user is mythtv running as? |
| [02:40:43] | devinheitmueller: | Pardon, what user is mythbackend running as? |
| [02:41:05] | neon__: | it doesn't run because it wanted to shut it down for setup |
| [02:41:09] | neon__: | i think |
| [02:41:16] | neon__: | or root or my user |
| [02:41:19] | neon__: | lets see |
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| [02:41:32] | devinheitmueller: | Is anything else connected to /dev/video1 |
| [02:41:35] | neon__: | it doesn't run |
| [02:41:41] | devinheitmueller: | Do you have any other tv applications like tvbackend? |
| [02:41:48] | neon__: | not that I know of |
| [02:42:06] | devinheitmueller: | You can try something like "fuser /dev/video1" and see if anything comes back |
| [02:42:23] | neon__: | there is in ps aux|grep tv : [cx88 tvaudio] |
| [02:42:38] | devinheitmueller: | That should be fine. |
| [02:42:53] | devinheitmueller: | That's just a kernel thread for managing the onboard audio. |
| [02:42:59] | neon__: | nothing comes up |
| [02:43:16] | devinheitmueller: | Interesting. |
| [02:43:34] | devinheitmueller: | You could potentially run strace against mythtv-setup and see why the open call is failing. |
| [02:43:46] | neon__: | ok |
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| [02:43:58] | neon__: | please tell me the syntax for strace |
| [02:44:18] | devinheitmueller: | strace -f mythtv-setup 2>output.log |
| [02:46:36] | neon__: | that's lots of stuff |
| [02:46:48] | devinheitmueller: | That's why you saved it to a file. :-) |
| [02:46:59] | devinheitmueller: | Open it up and see why the open() call to /dev/video1 failed. |
| [02:47:19] | devinheitmueller: | (you can probably just search for "/dev/video1") |
| [02:48:25] | neon__: | a line after open there is a line: |
| [02:48:28] | neon__: | <... futex resumed> ) = -1 ETIMEDOUT (Connection timed out) |
| [02:48:38] | devinheitmueller: | That's a context switch |
| [02:48:47] | devinheitmueller: | Keep looking for the result of the open call |
| [02:52:58] | neon__: | I see open then stat then futtex, then two more stat a poll a write 6 stats a poll a write |
| [02:54:43] | devinheitmueller: | Pastebin the surrounding 50 or so lines of output |
| [02:55:06] | neon__: | I can paste the file |
| [02:56:49] | devinheitmueller: | You don't need to do the entire file. |
| [02:56:52] | devinheitmueller: | But use pastebin.org |
| [02:57:08] | devinheitmueller: | Do *NOT* paste it into the irc window. |
| [02:59:28] | neon__: | http://paste.debian.net/220467/ |
| [02:59:54] | neon__: | I greped -A 50 -B 50 video1 |
| [03:00:16] | devinheitmueller: | The open() call appears to have failed with -EINVAL |
| [03:00:55] | devinheitmueller: | Oh wait, you did what? |
| [03:01:02] | devinheitmueller: | Hmmm, that might have screwed up the output |
| [03:01:22] | devinheitmueller: | There is a context switch after the open of video1, so if there were more than 50 lines, you're losing data. |
| [03:01:46] | devinheitmueller: | Open the file, and find the line that says "open("/dev/video1"" |
| [03:01:58] | devinheitmueller: | Then search for the next line that contains 5856 |
| [03:03:02] | neon__: | [pid 5856] <... open resumed> ) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
| [03:03:31] | neon__: | it is only about 10 lines after the video1 so it is from the same contxt |
| [03:03:38] | devinheitmueller: | ok, one sec. |
| [03:04:37] | devinheitmueller: | Any errors in dmesg? |
| [03:04:46] | devinheitmueller: | I bet your drivers are messed up. |
| [03:05:07] | neon__: | [90884.858267] cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:05:01.2: firmware: agent aborted loading v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw (not found?) |
| [03:05:16] | devinheitmueller: | Well, thats' a problem. |
| [03:05:26] | neon__: | [90884.850217] cx88[0]/2-bb: Firmware and/or mailbox pointer not initialized or corrupted |
| [03:05:32] | devinheitmueller: | You're missing the firmware for the encoder, so the MPEG encoder isn't initializing. |
| [03:05:39] | neon__: | o |
| [03:05:44] | devinheitmueller: | Do you have that file in /lib/firmware? |
| [03:05:47] | neon__: | modprobe? |
| [03:05:57] | devinheitmueller: | (or wherever your distro puts it) |
| [03:06:14] | devinheitmueller: | No, the firmware is a binary blob that has to reside in /lib/firmware and gets loaded at module startup. |
| [03:06:33] | devinheitmueller: | Google for that filename, find a copy and stick it into /lib/firmware. |
| [03:06:35] | devinheitmueller: | Then reboot. |
| [03:06:50] | neon__: | reboot :( |
| [03:07:19] | neon__: | which file? v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ? |
| [03:07:22] | devinheitmueller: | If you knew what you were doing, there are ways to avoid the reboot. OTOH, if you knew what you were doing you wouldn't be here. |
| [03:07:23] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah. |
| [03:07:34] | devinheitmueller: | :-) |
| [03:08:11] | neon__: | got no output from: find /lib/firmware/|grep v4l |
| [03:08:31] | devinheitmueller: | Assuming that's where your distro puts the firmware, then you need that file. |
| [03:08:51] | devinheitmueller: | It doesn't ship with some distributions by default because some people think it isn't "free" |
| [03:09:08] | neon__: | i searched in lib found things like /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko |
| [03:09:20] | devinheitmueller: | Firmware doesn't go in /lib/modules |
| [03:09:27] | devinheitmueller: | What distro are you running? |
| [03:09:34] | neon__: | debian wheezy |
| [03:09:42] | devinheitmueller: | Ah, yeah, that explains it. |
| [03:09:55] | neon__: | is ubuntu better? |
| [03:09:58] | devinheitmueller: | (they're among the people who think binary firmware is contrary to free software) |
| [03:10:27] | devinheitmueller: | I'm not going to start a flamewar over which distro is better than another and which are run by free software zealots. |
| [03:10:32] | devinheitmueller: | ;-) |
| [03:10:46] | devinheitmueller: | Just google for that filename, download it, stick it into /lib/firmware, and reboot. |
| [03:12:26] | neon__: | I found it in a package the firemwares, I think |
| [03:12:35] | neon__: | I'll install and search for it |
| [03:13:31] | neon__: | now I have it |
| [03:14:43] | neon__: | I wonder which other firmware I might be needing |
| [03:14:50] | neon__: | there are lots of firmware packages |
| [03:14:50] | devinheitmueller: | That should be it. |
| [03:15:11] | neon__: | reboot :( ? |
| [03:16:40] | neon__: | now it is recognized |
| [03:16:53] | neon__: | cx88_blackbird |
| [03:16:57] | devinheitmueller: | ok |
| [03:17:03] | neon__: | maybe the installation loaded it? |
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| [03:17:08] | devinheitmueller: | possible. |
| [03:17:14] | devinheitmueller: | If it works, then fine. If not, then reboot |
| [03:18:04] | neon__: | what do I do next? I want to have a channel with statics/snow |
| [03:18:31] | devinheitmueller: | Channel scanning doesn't work for analog under MythTV. |
| [03:18:38] | devinheitmueller: | You are supposed to setup a schedules direct linup. |
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| [03:19:30] | neon__: | I don't understand what to do |
| [03:19:54] | devinheitmueller: | In mythtv-setup there is a screen that lets you setup schedules direct. |
| [03:20:45] | devinheitmueller: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:MythTV . . . ideo_sources |
| [03:22:14] | neon__: | that screen look like it fetch tv guides from websites |
| [03:22:40] | devinheitmueller: | Yup |
| [03:22:59] | neon__: | and it doesn't respond. It gives me a list of channels with default not to downoad, and I don't have a way to change that default |
| [03:23:13] | devinheitmueller: | You setup a grabber for your area, then you edit the channel list to include which channels to include. |
| [03:23:32] | devinheitmueller: | Did you specify a user id and password? |
| [03:23:32] | neon__: | how do I edit that channel list? |
| [03:23:41] | neon__: | probably not |
| [03:23:42] | devinheitmueller: | On schedulesdirect.org. |
| [03:24:10] | neon__: | I am not prompted for passwords |
| [03:24:13] | devinheitmueller: | You create an account, then use the web interface to indicate your lineup. Then you can tell it what channels you do/do not receive. |
| [03:24:37] | devinheitmueller: | The password is directly right of the "user id" field. |
| [03:24:39] | neon__: | and I am in Israel I chose an israely website |
| [03:24:55] | devinheitmueller: | Ah, you're in Israel. |
| [03:25:03] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, not sure how they do listings there. |
| [03:25:36] | devinheitmueller: | Frankly I should just kill a few hours and fix the damn channel scanner. |
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| [03:25:38] | devinheitmueller: | :-/ |
| [03:25:46] | neon__: | xmltv |
| [03:26:37] | devinheitmueller: | This might help: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XMLTV |
| [03:28:57] | neon__: | I think something is wrong with the mythtv interface, it just don't let to edit the stuff downloaded |
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| [03:30:24] | neon__: | now I pressed a, and it exited with status : O maybe that is zero, so it is good |
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| [03:31:02] | neon__: | do I need to do anything else? |
| [03:31:14] | devinheitmueller: | Beats me. Perhaps somebody else can chime in. |
| [03:31:48] | neon__: | I tried to exit, and it say: Cart1 (type Television) is set tos tart on Pleass add, which does not exist. Do you want to go back and fixe thes... |
| [03:31:55] | neon__: | Card1 |
| [03:32:19] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, that means you didn't tie the card to an input source |
| [03:32:40] | neon__: | I don't know how to tie the card :( |
| [03:32:52] | devinheitmueller: | You really should read the manual. |
| [03:32:52] | devinheitmueller: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:MythTV_structure |
| [03:35:34] | neon__: | you know, I figured, that in the sources window, I thought what happens is that it downloads everything and I need to press enter for it to continue to download. So I pressed enter effectivly choosing the default "no" until it got to the end |
| [03:35:55] | neon__: | and then I went up put the cursor on the line, and try to insert a y for yes |
| [03:36:24] | devinheitmueller: | Did you setup an input connection which associates the video source with the capture card? |
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| [03:37:30] | neon__: | in 4. video sources? I didn't see an option to sellect the capture card |
| [03:37:45] | devinheitmueller: | No. |
| [03:38:11] | devinheitmueller: | You create a capture card. You then create a video source. You can create an input connection which connects the capture card to the video source. |
| [03:38:23] | devinheitmueller: | If you don't do the last step, you get the error message you saw when trying to exit. |
| [03:39:37] | neon__: | I have in the input connection Capture device: [MPEG:/dev/video1] |
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| [03:40:32] | neon__: | there is scan for channel and fetch channels from list |
| [03:40:51] | neon__: | both kind of not work |
| [03:40:52] | Pablo__: | Hi everyone, |
| [03:41:00] | neon__: | for all i can tell |
| [03:41:13] | neon__: | look hanged on fetch |
| [03:41:45] | Pablo__: | This is my first time here – I've come because I need some help with my MythTV setup, but I don't know the etiquette. Do I just wait til others have stopped writing before I butt in? |
| [03:42:21] | neon__: | Pablo__, I think u just ask, and hope someone will know |
| [03:42:31] | Pablo__: | OK. Thanks neon :) |
| [03:43:41] | Pablo__: | I had myth 0.24 running smoothly with ubuntu 10.04, but thought I'd upgrade to 0.25 on 12.04. Now I'm getting an error message on my tuner card as follows: 'DiSEqCDevTree: No device tree for cardid 7' |
| [03:43:47] | Pablo__: | Any ideas what might be wrong? |
| [03:44:28] | Pablo__: | I'm using ASUS U3100 Mini DVB-T tuners. |
| [03:45:02] | [R]: | that's not an error... |
| [03:45:20] | neon__: | it hanged. seems like the strace was running |
| [03:46:00] | neon__: | so if you want I can look why it hanged. If it matters |
| [03:46:45] | Pablo__: | Thanks R. My mistake then. It scans in backend fine, but when I go to the frontend to watch TV, it quickly says 'Please Wait ...' before returning me to the main menu (i.e. doesn't play TV). |
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| [03:48:29] | Pablo__: | When I run tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log to see hat's happening when I try to watch TV, it includes the message CoreContext livetvchain.cpp:277 (GetEntryAt) It appears that your backend may be misconfigured. Check your backend logs to determine whether your capture cards, lineups, channels, or storage configuration are reporting errors. This issue is commonly caused by failing to complete all setup steps properly. Yo |
| [03:49:00] | neon__: | it is hanging again because I told it scan for channels |
| [03:49:03] | Pablo__: | When I go into the backend I get this message as it starts: C Protocol version check failure. The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty. This happens when the backend is too busy to respond, or has deadlocked in due to bugs or hardware failure. |
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| [03:49:39] | [R]: | Pablo__: try restarting the backend |
| [03:49:45] | Pablo__: | And the only problem I can see in my backend setup is that message about 'No device tree for cardid' |
| [03:51:42] | neon__: | is mythfilldatabase supposed to return? |
| [03:51:49] | Pablo__: | What's the command to restart mythbackend? |
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| [03:54:37] | Pablo__: | Just restarted the backend using sudo /etc/init.d/myth-backend restart |
| [03:54:58] | Pablo__: | Still the same problem – when I go to Watch TV, it says Please Wait then returns me to the main menu. |
| [03:59:17] | neon__: | I am getting lots of This last setup screen shows you the result of all the previous steps: a complete list of all the channels that were detected for all the capture cards on your system, along with the name of the EPG source linked to each channel. In the edit dialog for each channel, you will be able to specify if EPG data for the channel should be gathered over the air, or should come from a specific XMLTV program ID. This is wh |
| [03:59:17] | neon__: | ere you will see whether your XMLTV grabber correctly identified each channel or not: if not, you will end up with bogus channels with "???" as channel number. If so, simply write down the XMLTV ID for the bogus channel and put this ID in the real channel. You can then delete the bogus channel. |
| [03:59:17] | neon__: | One thing to watch for, in case several of your capture cards receive similar channels – for example, analog and DVB cards that have some TV channels in common - : you cannot use the XMLTV ID of Source 1 as the XMLTV ID for a channel that belongs to Source 2, even if the channels are the same. This sometimes means that, unfortunately, you will end up duplicating xmltv grabbing for the same channels on each source: if you are relucta |
| [03:59:23] | neon__: | nt to do this, you can move on to more advanced settings and grab the guide data once, and feed it to several sources, but this is beyond the scope of this introduction. |
| [03:59:26] | neon__: | The last element, and arguably the most important, is the channel: channels in MythTV are identified by quite a few elements: "Channel Name", "Channel Number", "Channel Callsign", not to mention extra info such as channel frequency info, etc. Depending on the type of capture card that you use, some elements are used, and some are not: typically, for DVB channels you will not setup anything in the frequency fields – I am not quite su |
| [03:59:31] | neon__: | re whether the channel Callsign, Name or Number or a combination are used to tune the channel with DBV tuners – . |
| [03:59:35] | neon__: | opps sorry |
| [03:59:57] | neon__: | I tried to paste a short line, it instead pasted the website |
| [04:00:04] | neon__: | THat is the line: E Original query failed, but resend with empty strings in place of NULL strings worked. |
| [04:01:58] | neon__: | I think that mythtv is hard to setup |
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| [04:09:56] | Pablo__: | As far as I can see, I've set up the backend correctly. It's just that message from the tuner that's troubling it ... |
| [04:11:54] | neon__: | Pablo__, I didn't manage to make mythtv run ever yet |
| [04:12:36] | neon__: | Pablo__, in windows, the pvr software just run. :/ |
| [04:13:48] | neon__: | Pablo__, here with all the settings, databases, choosing cards, sources, connecting them, etc, and all with this interface without a mouse |
| [04:28:45] | xuser: | I'm having problems with channel listing. |
| [04:29:18] | xuser: | I'm using SD for channel for internal..I ran mythfilldatabase and .still no go. |
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| [05:00:39] | neon__: | are there simpler pvr softwares for linux? |
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| [05:21:47] | AndyCap: | neon__: you could ask this guy. http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/20 . . . /045664.html |
| [05:27:36] | xuser: | is there anything special to get the channel listing for ceton card? |
| [05:28:04] | xuser: | I can't scan the cable...it craps out..states unable to open device |
| [05:28:25] | xuser: | I ran ron's perl script for updating Qam to mythdatabase ..but still nothing.. |
| [05:28:26] | [R]: | if it acn't open... you've got much moer problems then just channel listings |
| [05:28:49] | xuser: | on the forums people said it's fine.. |
| [05:29:01] | xuser: | which table is the channel database store on the database? |
| [05:29:32] | xuser: | can i manually download scheduldirect and imort to the db? |
| [05:33:37] | [R]: | no |
| [05:33:40] | [R]: | don't touch the database |
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| [05:52:39] | duke_ellington: | Hello. I'm trying to get a PVR-500 setup but, I'm running into some problems. mythtv-setup can't find any channels doing a scan. After, manually adding a few channels. If I try changing the channel mythfrontend goes black and drop back to the menu with "video frame buffering failed too many times". I'm using Arch. Any ideas? |
| [05:54:19] | duke_ellington: | I just have analog cable from cox. no cablebox. |
| [06:00:50] | neon__: | I think mythtv should make some simpler installation for new users with just one tv card |
| [06:01:14] | duke_ellington: | After googling around some, I know I'm not the only one with these problems. channel scanning with analog devices has been broken since 0.21? Was it ever fixed? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1897590 |
| [06:01:36] | [R]: | duke_ellington: no, dont scan in analog, theres no point |
| [06:01:45] | [R]: | neon__: and i wish i had a million dollars |
| [06:02:06] | neon__: | [R], I wish u had a million dollars too |
| [06:02:18] | duke_ellington: | I first started out on mythbuntu. after I got how mythtv worked. I switched to Arch. |
| [06:03:18] | neon__: | But I tried two TV softwares xawtv and TVtime and both install and show TV without any painful configuration attempts on my end |
| [06:03:58] | [R]: | they are tuners |
| [06:04:00] | [R]: | not dvrs |
| [06:04:00] | neon__: | I found something called freevo, and vdr and going to try, though something prevent the installation for now |
| [06:04:01] | [R]: | big difference |
| [06:04:08] | duke_ellington: | [R]: So, do I just add all my channels with the channel editor? |
| [06:04:21] | [R]: | duke_ellington: you need listings, and listings provide the channels |
| [06:05:24] | neon__: | [R], not so big difference. Add a record button, and time shifting, schedualled recording, and that is all I really need |
| [06:05:51] | [R]: | well thats not mythtv |
| [06:06:18] | neon__: | what does mythtv has beside that EPEG? |
| [06:06:29] | [R]: | read the website |
| [06:06:57] | neon__: | do u know an other program that is what I look for? |
| [06:07:04] | [R]: | this isn't #otherprograms |
| [06:07:42] | neon__: | [R], u annoy me >:( |
| [06:07:50] | [R]: | that is unfortunate |
| [06:08:00] | neon__: | well I am tired |
| [06:08:06] | [R]: | something that is also unfortunate |
| [06:08:10] | neon__: | maybe not u'r fault |
| [06:09:09] | neon__: | any idea which server has #fortunate [R] ? |
| [06:09:27] | [R]: | huh? |
| [06:09:46] | duke_ellington: | [R]: I added my trial account of Schedules Direct. In the... Input? section if I remember right, you have two buttons. scan for channel and fetch channels from listing source. |
| [06:10:01] | [R]: | thats it |
| [06:12:10] | duke_ellington: | [R]: but when I clicked on it. It didn't seem to do anything. The help description said it can take a long time. How do I know if it's working or done? |
| [06:12:26] | [R]: | huh? "it"? |
| [06:13:07] | duke_ellington: | [R]: Fetch channels from listing source button |
| [06:13:26] | [R]: | look at the console output |
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| [06:24:33] | duke_ellington: | [R]: 2012-12–31 00:23:07.300510 E XMLTVConfig::Load: Failed to run tv_find_grabbers |
| [06:24:49] | [R]: | i highly doubt thats all it says |
| [06:25:07] | [R]: | when you select schedules direct and you hit grab channels |
| [06:25:13] | [R]: | it'll output lots of stuff |
| [06:31:11] | duke_ellington: | hold on I'm dumb. When I signed up for schedulesdirect I didn't add a lineup. :p |
| [06:31:22] | duke_ellington: | I got stuff in channel editor now. |
| [06:35:54] | duke_ellington: | [R] Thanks. After mythfilldatabase is done I'll see if I can change channels on the frontend. |
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| [07:05:35] | duke_ellington: | Alright well I still have the "video frame buffering failed too many times" when trying live tv. |
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| [11:27:13] | Finswimmer: | Hello. I have updated to 0.26. my xmltv grabber (tv_grab_eu_epgdata) produces the right timestamps. eg: 20130101201500 +0100 which is 8.15pm on 01.01.2013. But after running mythfilldatabase --update --sourceid 3 --file --xmlfile xmltv.xml I have an offset of 1 hour. |
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| [11:35:29] | Finswimmer: | MythTV and Gentoo are set to Europe/Berlin |
| [11:36:02] | Finswimmer: | +0100 is currently the right offet to UTC. |
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| [12:17:18] | dekarl: | Finswimmer: where do you notice that offset? |
| [12:18:06] | dekarl: | maybe it is mythweb only which would hint at running mythweb 0.25 against mythtv 0.26 (heard that before) |
| [12:18:27] | dekarl: | if its consistently wrong in frontend/web/etc it might be the xmltv timezone setting |
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| [13:15:37] | earthworm: | Anyone know why my mythtv frontend crashes when trying to scan my videos folder and pick up metadata? |
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| [13:38:11] | cesman: | earthworm: There is no short answer. You need to start by investigating your logs. |
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| [14:09:53] | Finswimmer: | dekarl: You are right. The show "tagesschau" should be at 8pm is shown at 7pm in mythweb, but correctly at 8pm in mythfrontend |
| [14:10:22] | Finswimmer: | But it should be mythweb 0.26. Against mythtv 0.26 |
| [14:10:55] | Finswimmer: | At least my Gentoo package version is 0.26 |
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| [14:29:20] | dekarl: | Finswimmer: hmm, a timezone setting in php.ini was mentioned earlier, too |
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| [14:34:06] | Finswimmer: | dekarl: On top of mythweb the timestamp is shown correctly. |
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| [14:35:47] | dekarl: | hmm, I don't have more ideas |
| [14:35:55] | Finswimmer: | And to confuse everyone ;) : in MythWeb upcoming recordings are shown with the right time. But on "tv-program" the same show is shown 1 hour early |
| [14:37:12] | Finswimmer: | Ok. No problem. Thank you very much for your help which shows me, that it is "only" a problem with mythweb. |
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| [15:32:57] | jarle: | Then mythtv android frontend says here: https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Andr . . . -Suggestions that it needs "MythTV to be compiled with libdns-sd enabled", and it goes on to say compile with --enable-sdl to enable this. I think libdns_sd!=sdl ? |
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| [15:38:57] | wagnerrp: | dns_sd is some network autodetection protocol |
| [15:39:02] | wagnerrp: | sdl is a graphics library |
| [15:39:20] | wagnerrp: | there is no reason for the android frontend to need anything compiled with sdl |
| [15:39:29] | wagnerrp: | but there is potentially good reason to require dns_sd |
| [15:47:55] | jarle: | wagnerrp: yes, I was thinking it was a typo in the documentation, just had to verify... |
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| [16:30:04] | Oleg_: | how good is nvidia gt 640 card? |
| [16:30:10] | Oleg_: | it suppors vdpau and etc.? |
| [16:31:04] | wagnerrp: | everything 9-series and up supports vdpau |
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| [16:34:58] | Oleg_: | but how fancy or unfancy the 640gt card is? |
| [16:35:34] | Oleg_: | looks like it's not fancy |
| [16:35:54] | Oleg_: | but as long as it supports vdpau acceleration, mythtv can use it |
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| [16:42:41] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, is this card better than gt 220 or 9500 gt? |
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| [16:49:44] | Oleg_: | http://www.hwcompare.com/12888/geforce-gt-220 . . . gt-640-ddr3/ |
| [16:49:52] | Oleg_: | looks like it's better than gt 220 |
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| [16:51:42] | kslater: | If I have 2 capture cards pulling a feed from the same source set box, do I need 2 sources? For example, I have a DirecTV receiver and I generally feed that into an HD-PVR for HD recording. But when that's not working (like now), I'd like to fall back to recording from an PVR-250 over S-Video (I'll take the quality hit, but would like to still get the shows recorded). |
| [16:51:55] | kslater: | So both of those should have the same schedule information |
| [16:52:09] | kslater: | but do I need to define DirecTV1 and DirecTV2 as listing sources? And is Myth smart about handling that so I don't end up with duplicated listings in the database? |
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| [16:54:39] | sphery: | kslater: MythTV Video Source is a list of channels that are available on a source and their associated tuning information |
| [16:55:02] | sphery: | so if you have inputs that tune differently, but access identical channels, you must have 2 different MythTV Video Sources |
| [16:55:20] | sphery: | or if you have inputs that can tune different lists of channels, you must have 2 different MythTV Video Sources |
| [16:55:49] | wagnerrp: | but for an HDPVR and a PVR-250 pulling from the same STB, just one source |
| [16:55:56] | sphery: | the schedule information (listings info) is completely different from the Video Source |
| [16:55:57] | kslater: | but they don't really tune differently. Both would have to switch channels using the same /dev/ttyUSB0 port. |
| [16:55:58] | wagnerrp: | and make sure both inputs are configured in an input group |
| [16:56:03] | kslater: | ok, makes sense |
| [16:56:08] | wagnerrp: | so mythtv understands not to use them at the same time |
| [16:56:11] | kslater: | I did do that wagnerrp |
| [16:56:25] | wagnerrp: | and make sure the HDPVR is set as a higher priority, so it will be used if available |
| [16:56:32] | wagnerrp: | define "not working" |
| [16:56:33] | kslater: | and I gave the PVR-250 a -2 priority and the HD-PVR a +1 priority |
| [16:56:44] | kslater: | HD-PVR refuses to record |
| [16:56:49] | wagnerrp: | as if it's not plugged in, chances are your video device nodes will be reordered, and your PVR-250 won't work either |
| [16:56:52] | kslater: | channel changing seems to be working now. |
| [16:56:57] | wagnerrp: | unless you're using udev rules to make specific names |
| [16:56:58] | sphery: | however, as wagnerrp said, since the HD-PVR and the PVR-x50 both have access to the exact same list of channels and use the same tuning approach (external channel change script), you can use the same Video Source for them--as long as the channel change script knows which STB to change |
| [16:57:28] | kslater: | sphery: yeah, that should be working ok. |
| [16:57:41] | sphery: | or, yeah, if it's the exact same STB, then just use the same Video Source, but put the 2 in an Input Group to prevent both from being used at the same time |
| [16:57:43] | kslater: | and I think the /dev nodes are finally in control |
| [16:57:48] | wagnerrp: | sphery: doesn't everyone have live compression on their mysql binary logs? |
| [16:57:59] | sphery: | but don't set priority for HD-PVR |
| [16:58:08] | sphery: | set it lower in Schedule Order |
| [16:58:10] | sphery: | :) |
| [16:59:05] | sphery: | and note that if you've defined the HD-PVR in MythTV and it's not working (not plugged in), MythTV will not know it's not usable and will have failed recordings whenever it tries to use it |
| [16:59:16] | kslater: | sphery: Did I go the wrong way on the priorities? I thought I wanted a higher number for the better encoder. |
| [16:59:54] | sphery: | kslater: good timing: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/536030#536030 |
| [17:00:10] | sphery: | glad I wrote that yesterday |
| [17:01:15] | wagnerrp: | http://pastebin.com/1vMQVwci |
| [17:02:34] | kslater: | sphery: thanks for that reference. I understand it better now and you're exactly right, I manage the priorities in my recording rules already. |
| [17:02:37] | sphery: | wow, 1.5GB of binary logs taking up 161MB |
| [17:03:27] | kslater: | figures you guys would be using zfs. MythTV guys, always on the cutting edge.. |
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| [17:03:55] | wagnerrp: | cutting edge? ZFS has been in production use for like five years now |
| [17:04:11] | wagnerrp: | maybe if this were BtrFS... |
| [17:04:27] | sphery: | kslater: yeah, most people seem to think that input priority only compares against a specific show on the 2 different inputs, but there's only one priority, so it compares against everything else on the input |
| [17:04:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: well, it would be cutting edge on Linux :) |
| [17:05:11] | sphery: | that said, I'm using cutting-edge ext3 |
| [17:06:19] | kslater: | ZFS on which platform? Linux? |
| [17:06:22] | wagnerrp: | freebsd |
| [17:06:27] | kslater: | Aha. |
| [17:06:48] | kslater: | I heard that btrfs has a security problem. |
| [17:07:54] | wagnerrp: | no, not exactly |
| [17:08:39] | wagnerrp: | it has a problem with a potential denial of service attack |
| [17:08:47] | monkeypet: | Anyone know of a theme that looks like the "netflix for kids" interface? |
| [17:09:20] | GreyFoxx: | I wish you we could watch netflix directly from myth. that would be sweet. |
| [17:09:24] | wagnerrp: | and that DoS can only be triggered from on the local system directly |
| [17:09:29] | wagnerrp: | meaning it's garbage |
| [17:09:37] | wagnerrp: | you can hose up any filesystem if you have direct access to it |
| [17:10:09] | monkeypet: | if not, I wanted to create a theme with less text and more pics so little kids can use it. Although my 4 yr old learned to read while having to navigate the mythtv menus :) |
| [17:10:12] | wagnerrp: | at worst, it's poorly optimized to handle a certain type of loading pattern |
| [17:10:45] | wagnerrp: | hmm... fbsd 9.1 released today |
| [17:10:56] | wagnerrp: | at some point, i really need to get around to upgrading my firewall |
| [17:11:03] | wagnerrp: | i think it's on 7.something stil |
| [17:13:27] | monkeypet: | My damn raspberrypi keeps on corrupting my sdcard! Stupid thing. |
| [17:14:17] | sphery: | monkeypet: I've never actually used NetFlix for Kids interface, but you may want to look at the Childish theme |
| [17:15:04] | sphery: | monkeypet: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/File:Childish.jpg |
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| [17:16:35] | sphery: | monkeypet: also, according to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Theme_Teams , anyone willing to help is encouraged--Mike L would probably even be happy if you wanted to pick it up and become lead maintainer |
| [17:17:01] | sphery: | i.e. could start adding new/better pics for the menu items, etc. |
| [17:17:26] | monkeypet: | thanks for the tip. |
| [17:18:28] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: hehe, yeah, that would be nice, but just won't work with their requirements for encryption |
| [17:19:10] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: there was actually a proposal submitted to the HTML5 WG--by Google, Microsoft, and Netflix--to add support for DRM to the HTML5 <video> tag. |
| [17:19:44] | wagnerrp: | which of course cannot and should not ever be supported |
| [17:19:57] | AndyCap: | heh, did anyone write something about implementation of that? |
| [17:19:59] | wagnerrp: | as you cannot have DRM without a licensing body |
| [17:20:12] | wagnerrp: | and a licensing body means HTML would no longer be an openly usable protocol |
| [17:20:15] | sphery: | Ian Hickson, the leader of the WG at the time--and a Google employee!--said no way because it has no business being part of an open standard (and because it was completely insecure, anyway) |
| [17:20:48] | AndyCap: | of course its insecure, the attacker and the recipient are one and the same, |
| [17:20:48] | sphery: | I love that a Google employee squashed Google's hopes :) |
| [17:21:20] | GreyFoxx: | Spher: I would be happy to pay for a a binary that does all of the work, I'd even pay for a hardware usb dongle to do the drm if need be. Just have the player accept keystrokes (so we can use lirc) |
| [17:21:44] | GreyFoxx: | right now I use the wine/silverly netflix-desktop but it's a pain to have to switch from remote to mouse/keyboard |
| [17:22:02] | kslater: | wagnerrp: all true on the btrfs 'issue'. I have an (ex) colleague who is crazy strict on any sort of potential exploit. He used to do support for a large-ish west coast ISP and hates the thought of ever having to rebuild a machine because of any sort of exploitable hole. |
| [17:22:15] | kslater: | which is also why he is a freebsd zealot |
| [17:22:57] | monkeypet: | for some reason, I always thought freebsd folks are cult like. |
| [17:22:58] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I use my XBox 360 for Netflix and Amazon Instant Prime... It's just easier to hit the Input button on my TV remote than to try to work around it all |
| [17:23:28] | sphery: | a friend who uses MythTV got a Roku box for it (even though he had a Wii... I guess he wanted a better connection than its SDTV connection?) |
| [17:23:44] | GreyFoxx: | spher: I would use my xbox but I refuse to pay MS for a gold live account just to have the "privilege" of paying netflix $8 a month to play content on hardware I already own |
| [17:23:51] | wagnerrp: | monkeypet: i'm a freebsd user for no further reason than it was the only "distro" i tried that supported all my disk controller cards when migrating my fileserver from Win2k |
| [17:23:55] | sphery: | or maybe he didn't like waving a remote around when trying to control it :) |
| [17:23:56] | monkeypet: | sphery: all the newer remotes have a "netflix" button. My bluray player and tv have a big red netflix button on them. |
| [17:24:15] | GreyFoxx: | My bluray player has a netflix client and I use it sometimes, but I find it glitchy :) |
| [17:24:19] | sphery: | yeah, that's the problem with XBox--you have to have the Gold XBL membership to use Netflix or Amazon Instant apps |
| [17:24:23] | GreyFoxx: | far more so than the software player |
| [17:24:26] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [17:24:29] | GreyFoxx: | it's ridiculous |
| [17:24:39] | GreyFoxx: | it would be one thhing if MS was providing the content |
| [17:24:40] | sphery: | I have the XBL membership, anyway, for games, so it works for me |
| [17:24:43] | wagnerrp: | of course i stuck around for the PF, jails, and ZFS |
| [17:25:23] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: yeah, and it seems it actually discourages people from turning to the XBox for content--which seems to be counter to the approach they should be taking |
| [17:25:34] | GreyFoxx: | Doh, the fam is calling me, time to go out visiting my parents |
| [17:25:36] | wagnerrp: | is an "untangle box" some kind of commercial product? |
| [17:25:37] | GreyFoxx: | yeah I agree |
| [17:25:43] | GreyFoxx: | the mor useful the box |
| [17:25:45] | sphery: | I heard Intel is actually working on a STB to kill the Google TV and Apple TV |
| [17:25:50] | GreyFoxx: | the more I'd use it for everything |
| [17:25:55] | GreyFoxx: | *heads out* |
| [17:25:58] | sphery: | and, especially, cable |
| [17:26:27] | monkeypet: | My smart TV has youtube,netflix,blah,blah fast also. Software is crap, but integrated into the TV. |
| [17:26:37] | sphery: | they plan to allow per-content subscriptions (so you don't have to subscribe to AMC to get The Walking Dead, but just subscribe to the shows you want) |
| [17:26:51] | sphery: | I can't see them being able to convince the players to allow this, though |
| [17:27:11] | sphery: | though if they do, they'll likely succeed at killing cable |
| [17:28:36] | monkeypet: | Even with so much software in the TV, i still use my trusty mac-mini-linux-booted mythfrontend box. |
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| [17:30:17] | kslater: | can a raspberrypi running raspbmx act as a playback device for mythtv? Or is there a better way to use one of those to playback content from a remote backend? |
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| [17:31:49] | wagnerrp: | kslater: the "better way" is to get a real PC to use as a frontend |
| [17:32:22] | wagnerrp: | the raspberry pi is woefully underpowered, and even on raspbmc, it shows |
| [17:32:26] | kslater: | yeah, but then I either have to go with the sleep setup of take the hit on power consumption which I'd like to avoid |
| [17:32:49] | kslater: | s/of/or |
| [17:33:00] | wagnerrp: | putting a dedicated to sleep isn't that tough |
| [17:33:06] | kslater: | finally getting the power bill under control |
| [17:33:23] | wagnerrp: | but if you want to leave it on all the time, something with laptop hardware like a mac mini will idle at just a few watts |
| [17:33:55] | wagnerrp: | and even my 3.1GHz diskless i3 idles at 25W |
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| [17:34:35] | kslater: | wagnerrp: I guess I could consider a mac mini. I'd have a find a cheap one (refurb or used). Can't justify much on the expense side right now. |
| [17:35:30] | kslater: | so is anybody up to help with a troubleshooting session for an HD-PVR on my sole backend? |
| [17:35:58] | kslater: | I get failed recordings right now |
| [17:35:58] | wagnerrp: | probably not, but just ask your questions and idle for a bit |
| [17:36:04] | wagnerrp: | someone will likely see it as respond at some point |
| [17:36:23] | wagnerrp: | i know there has been some chatter recently about HDPVRs failing due to faulty power supplies |
| [17:36:41] | wagnerrp: | many of the power supplies shipped with the HDPVRs are blowing caps and becoming unstable |
| [17:36:51] | kslater: | scheduling seems to work ok and channel changes take place. I seem to be able to get zero length recordings pretty easily. |
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| [17:37:04] | kslater: | cat > /tmp/test.ts works. |
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| [17:37:21] | monkeypet: | kslater: the only thing that is stable on the raspberrypi is xbmc upnp. The xbmc mythtv client PVR is still not working for me. |
| [17:37:33] | wagnerrp: | twitchnln: in the US, the only real reliable/legal option is Schedules Direct |
| [17:38:06] | wagnerrp: | they license guide data directly from tribune, and provide access to it to subscribed members |
| [17:38:38] | sphery: | same data that TiVo users pay a fortune to access, but for only $25/year |
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| [17:38:50] | wagnerrp: | as for EIT, that is only available for broadcast channels |
| [17:38:51] | sphery: | and it's /very/ high-quality data |
| [17:39:07] | wagnerrp: | and even then, most stations don't provide more than the FCC-required 12hrs of data |
| [17:39:19] | sphery: | that is SD data is high quality (OTA EIT is terrible quality, unreliable, and mostly useless for a real DVR) |
| [17:39:36] | wagnerrp: | further, the data the do provide for those 12 hours us generally very cursory information |
| [17:39:50] | wagnerrp: | often just the show title, and no specific episode information |
| [17:40:06] | wagnerrp: | it's a bad experience that some users are willing to put up with |
| [17:40:20] | sphery: | because, of course, MythTV is free, right? :) |
| [17:40:31] | twitchnln: | i could work with that, it would beat the hell out of "2_1 unknown", etc... |
| [17:40:42] | sphery: | (it's actually Free, as in Freedom, but has cost me a fortune over the years) |
| [17:40:54] | ViperSBT: | I've been using, and liking, MythGallery for showing/managing my pictures, but as my collection of photos is starting to grow I'm feeling that it may be underpowered. Has anyone done anything else with the pictures, tied to MythTV, besides MythGallery? |
| [17:41:08] | sphery: | twitchnln: http://www.schedulesdirect.org/ |
| [17:41:11] | wagnerrp: | twitchnln: note that with a digital tuner, you're not likely to get much more than the local broadcast channels off cable |
| [17:41:12] | sphery: | they have a 7-day free trial |
| [17:41:40] | wagnerrp: | and that's going to be going away at some point, now that the FCC has lifted that requirement in favor of preventing "service theft" |
| [17:41:55] | wagnerrp: | since you're on comcast, you may want to consider getting a cablecard tuner |
| [17:42:02] | twitchnln: | ok, then i just need to figure out a way to match the digital channels that myth found to the data that schedules direct provides me |
| [17:42:20] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is only allowed to access DRM-free content, but on comcast, that tends to be everything but the premiums |
| [17:42:33] | twitchnln: | it's just a hdhr dual, no way to add a tuner, was xmas gift |
| [17:43:02] | wagnerrp: | twitchnln: if you're lucky, your local broadcast channels should be re-transmitted over cable with their VCT and callsigns intact |
| [17:43:27] | wagnerrp: | if so, you can just use the an antenna lineup from schedules direct, and most of the channels will be matched up automatically |
| [17:43:59] | wagnerrp: | if not, you'll need to look up the XMLTV IDs for those channels on the SD website, and manually apply them to the respective channels in the channel editor |
| [17:44:52] | wagnerrp: | the cable company's channel map is typically not available to standard clear qam tuners |
| [17:45:15] | twitchnln: | thats what i'm finding out |
| [17:45:43] | wagnerrp: | although... i was visiting my sister last week, and found their subchannel number matched the cable company's virtual mapping |
| [17:46:04] | wagnerrp: | my local cableco doesn't do that, and mythtv doesn't try to use that information in any case |
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| [18:26:07] | koffel: | helloi |
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| [18:27:25] | koffel: | i have a small problem someone might know the answer to it . i have a vizio hd tv with native 1366x768 and i have mythtv major overscan is there a way to fix it |
| [18:27:46] | wagnerrp: | use the screen setup wizard in mythfrontend |
| [18:28:21] | koffel: | i tried that |
| [18:28:28] | koffel: | set it to 720p |
| [18:28:42] | wagnerrp: | you don't set it to anything |
| [18:28:44] | koffel: | and man it got 100 worest |
| [18:28:58] | Twiggy2cents: | I have an orphaned video entry. I deleted the file but when I do scan for changes it is still there and it says failed to delete file. |
| [18:29:00] | Twiggy2cents: | Any tips? |
| [18:29:00] | wagnerrp: | you adjust the little corners so they they appear at the edge of the screen |
| [18:29:07] | koffel: | i mean ajusted to 1280 pix |
| [18:29:28] | wagnerrp: | Twiggy2cents: you mean orphaned recording? |
| [18:29:38] | Twiggy2cents: | Nope, in what used to be mythvideo |
| [18:30:02] | wagnerrp: | "Scan for Changes" doesn't delete files, merely database entries |
| [18:30:16] | koffel: | wagnerrp that did it thank you |
| [18:30:18] | Twiggy2cents: | I know, I deleted the file. The entry wont delete though |
| [18:30:49] | wagnerrp: | was it mapped to a backend that is not currently accessible? |
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| [18:32:38] | Twiggy2cents: | nope, only have the mbe |
| [18:33:43] | Twiggy2cents: | also, do you have any alternatives to tsmuxer? I cant seem to get it working.(it used to) |
| [18:34:30] | wagnerrp: | maybe something other than m2ts files? like mkvtoolnix/mkvmerge? |
| [18:35:28] | monkeypet: | wagnerrp: how's the wiki war on the spammers? |
| [18:35:49] | wagnerrp: | perpetual |
| [18:36:17] | wagnerrp: | i need to finish up the mediawiki plugin i was making to do that automatically |
| [18:36:23] | monkeypet: | wagnerrp: you havent found a silver bullet? |
| [18:37:23] | wagnerrp: | well the "silver bullet" would be testing against a couple online spam filters, like we do with trac |
| [18:37:34] | wagnerrp: | i'm just doing that by hand on the wiki at current |
| [18:39:58] | kslater: | has anyone tried to use Plex with MythTV? |
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| [18:44:00] | Twiggy2cents: | wagnerrp, mkvmerge can merge vobs and create a mkv right? |
| [18:44:43] | wagnerrp: | i believe so |
| [18:45:00] | wagnerrp: | actually, you can just concatenate vobs into one vob, with little ill effect |
| [18:45:51] | Twiggy2cents: | Really all I need is something to reindex it after I concatenate them |
| [18:46:20] | Twiggy2cents: | What ever way mplayer and vlc use to track time works, mythtv says it is like 2286 hours |
| [18:52:02] | Twiggy2cents: | Or even easier, is there any way to have mythtv handle the individual vobs like it would with a dvd? Would I have to reauthor them so there would be all the proper dvd parts? |
| [18:52:31] | wagnerrp: | you can copy the VIDEO_TS folder verbatim |
| [18:52:37] | wagnerrp: | or even store it as an ISO |
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| [18:52:50] | wagnerrp: | however if you are using a remote backend, it will need to be decrypted first |
| [18:53:04] | monkeypet: | I used to rip DVDs, but bluray are just too big, so I stopped. |
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| [18:53:21] | wagnerrp: | too big? nah... |
| [18:53:43] | wagnerrp: | it's only 25–30GB or so for the m2ts |
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| [18:53:50] | Twiggy2cents: | The issue is is that it is one of those funky incryptions where it has the corrupt table(or whatever the correct term would be) It says there is like 12GB on it |
| [18:54:05] | Twiggy2cents: | encryptions* |
| [18:54:22] | Twiggy2cents: | I normally just mirror the disk and leave it fully functioning |
| [18:54:30] | wagnerrp: | they break the disk image in a manner that players would ignore, but ROMs would fail on |
| [18:55:44] | kslater: | what mythconverg table has the recording priority for capture cards? I would think capturecard, but that doesn't appear to be the case.. |
| [18:56:09] | kslater: | now that I've been enlightened on schedule priority I'm trying to make amends. |
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| [18:56:41] | kslater: | Maybe I'll just use mythtv setup, probably safer in the end |
| [18:57:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, much better |
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| [19:02:56] | kslater: | ok, all set. Still can't get the HD-PVR to record. Live TV just immediately returns. |
| [19:03:42] | kslater: | All I see is a brief flash of please wait and then the menu again. :-( |
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| [19:10:40] | kslater: | V4LChannel(/dev/video0): GetCurrentChannelNum(206): Failed to find Channel |
| [19:11:07] | kslater: | hmm. It's not a queryable vl4l device (I don't think it is anyway) |
| [19:14:37] | kslater: | or is it trying to find channel 206 in the lineup for this capture card? |
| [19:15:51] | kslater: | after deleting both the all of the video sources and all of the capture cards and then recreating them, do I need to delete all of the schedule data and re-get it from schedules direct? |
| [19:16:13] | kslater: | I'd hate to do a pull when it's not needed, but if it's needed, it's only bandwidth.. |
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| [19:18:53] | kslater: | V4LChannel(/dev/video0): SetInputAndFormat(1, NTSC) (v4l v2) input_switch: 0 mode_switch: 0 |
| [19:19:16] | kslater: | input 1 and NTSC. Seems ok? |
| [19:19:45] | kslater: | EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo |
| [19:19:59] | kslater: | whoa, what's up with that date? |
| [19:21:02] | kslater: | It appears that your backend may be misconfigured. Check your backend logs to determine whether your capture cards, lineups, channels, or storage configuration are reporting errors. This issue is commonly caused by failing to complete all setup steps properly. You may wish to review the documentation for mythtv-setup. |
| [19:21:14] | kslater: | now that one seems to know that I'm in the weeds |
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| [19:29:54] | kslater: | Could this be because the capturecard row for the HD-PVR has defaultinput = 'Television' in it? |
| [19:30:20] | kslater: | I don't remember being asked to select a value for that field |
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| [21:06:53] | bill6502: | jarle: Thanks for catching my " --enable-sdl" brain cramp! I modified your text to say don't disable libdns-sd 'cause its on by default (and added other hints.) |
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| [21:33:42] | kslater: | Is there any place that lists the tables I should have for the schema I'm on? (.25 + fixes) |
| [21:34:10] | kslater: | .25–3 |
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| [21:36:08] | [R]: | kslater: the sourcecode |
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| [21:45:20] | jpabq: | kslater: for my HD-PVRs, the defaultinput="Component". |
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| [21:54:35] | jpabq: | kslater: when configuring the HD-PVR, did you choose the correct "type"? I believe hit should be something like "H.264 encoder card". |
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| [22:23:48] | kslater: | jpabq: yes, I chose H.264 encoder. It also correctly identified the HD-PVR and it's device node (video0) |
| [22:27:54] | kslater: | s/it's/its |
| [22:28:07] | kslater: | gah, a few days off and my grammar goes right in the toilet |
| [22:28:50] | kslater: | jpabq: you see defaultinput as Composite in the database table? |
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| [23:10:02] | jpabq: | kslater: no, I see "Component". That is what it needs to be to record high-def |
| [23:10:40] | jpabq: | Composite is just standard-def |
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| [23:44:12] | jpabq: | kslater: and audiodevice=2, for S/PDIF |
| [23:46:18] | duke_ellington: | Hello. I'm having trouble getting my PVR 500 tuner card to work in MythTV. If I try to change the channel in LiveTV, the frontend freezes up, goes black and drops back to the menu with "video frame buffer failed too many times". I also noticed once mythtv has accessed the tuners I can no longer view them properly with VLC. They skip, buffer and are sometimes scrambled. Rebooting or |
| [23:46:18] | duke_ellington: | reloading the ivtv module fixes this. Any ideas? I'm using Arch. |
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| [23:54:18] | kusznir: | HI all: In a followup to a conversation I had with wagnerrp last night, I'm wondering if someone can let me know how I can extract DVD ISOs on a myth system (eg, using linux commands) to use with myth video. I'm looking at archiving my DVD collection on disk much like mp3s for music. |
| [23:54:54] | [R]: | full isos or just the movies? |
| [23:55:11] | kusznir: | My searches online are mostly trying to give various ways to extract/re-encode to mkv or m4u's rather than the full iso which is what was recommended here. wagnerrp gave a windows program he used, but I don't have windows. |
| [23:55:44] | kusznir: | [R] I was thinking the full .isos, but I'm open to suggestions. |
| [23:55:58] | [R]: | vobcopy and/or dvdbackup |
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| [23:56:24] | kusznir: | So far, my trials with mkv encoding resulted in "good" but noticeably degraded |
| [23:56:48] | kusznir: | [R] does dvdbackup decss the dvd too? |
| [23:56:51] | [R]: | yup |
| [23:57:02] | kusznir: | cool. Thanks. |
| [23:58:14] | kusznir: | [R] you wouldn't happen to have a recommended invocation of dvdbackup, would you? (if not, I'll start the man page...just so far my guesses of what are the right switches when it comes to video work often seem wrong...) |
| [23:58:33] | [R]: | man dvdbackup |
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