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| [00:01:23] | lapion: | 2:0.26.0+fixes.20121217.3d7a20c |
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| [00:05:27] | lapion: | nvm the hdd was almostbfull..(too many .old, .tmp files |
| [00:06:17] | lapion: | darn wacom-tablet computer |
| [00:06:41] | lapion: | time for sleep |
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| [00:11:57] | lapion: | thanks for your help sphery.. |
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| [00:14:04] | lapion: | mythtv 26 has been recordings from analog devices with mpeg4 encoder with little to no failures.. as opposed to mjpeg |
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| [00:46:23] | wagnerrp: | mythtv records from analog devices with mpeg2 encoder much more reliably |
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| [01:04:42] | bobc: | I'm seeing GetPreviewImage: no recording for start time 'Sat Dec 15 19:00:00 2012' (and a few other dates around the same time) over and over in my logs, about every 30 seconds, although I don't have any recordings from those times. Can anyone help me figure out what's causing it? |
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| [02:02:34] | uglyoldbob: | i have xv video working on the frontend, but when changing zoom modes (w) the image is in the wrong position and sometimes the wrong size (vfill does not fill the height of the screen) |
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| [02:07:59] | tonsofpcs: | any suggestions for NTSC receivers (either network-attached or add-on-cards) that encode MPEG2 or MPEG4AVC that would be good to get a UDP multicast going from? |
| [02:08:11] | tonsofpcs: | (ok, CVBS input is fine too) |
| [02:08:19] | tonsofpcs: | (well, CVBS+audio) |
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| [02:10:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | tonsofpcs: They're not made anymore, but Hauppauge PVR-150, PVR-250 or even PVR-350 – or a dual-tuner one is PVR-500 (basically two 150s on one card) |
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| [02:28:43] | uglyoldbob: | actually, zoom mode only messes up for one user (i already tried deleting the .mythtv folder for both users (it works on one user and acts weird on the other)) |
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| [02:40:57] | dmfrey: | Captain_Murdoch, ping |
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| [02:51:25] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: you almost definitely have incorrect X config (your X aspect isn't the same as the monitor/TV aspect) and/or you've configured aspect ratio override or zoom (including "auto" zoom) in mythfrontend settings |
| [02:51:57] | sphery: | (and it's only affecting one user because it picks up different profiles depending on which one you use) |
| [02:52:25] | uglyoldbob: | sphery: how would i reset the x config for the problematic user? |
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| [02:53:49] | sphery: | if it's the same host, the X config is not likely the issue |
| [02:54:00] | sphery: | but check it with: xdpyinfo -B2 resolution |
| [02:54:19] | sphery: | er, xdpyinfo | grep -B2 resolution |
| [02:55:00] | sphery: | with the user that doesn't work running X) |
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| [03:25:11] | cnz: | I have setup mythtv and everything is running but when I go to watch tv nothing happens |
| [03:25:24] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs for errors |
| [03:25:31] | cnz: | no errors |
| [03:25:57] | wagnerrp: | could you pastebin them and copy the link in here? |
| [03:26:47] | cnz: | you're kidding right? |
| [03:27:07] | wagnerrp: | why would you think that? |
| [03:27:22] | cnz: | because there's a bunch of logs in /var/log/mythtv |
| [03:27:28] | cnz: | and big ones |
| [03:27:42] | wagnerrp: | just grab the most recent one, from the last time you ran mythbackend |
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| [03:28:11] | sphery: | stop mythbackend and mythfrontend, start mythbackend, start mythfrontend, attempt (and fail) to start live tv playback, then pastebin the most-recent backend and frontend log file |
| [03:28:13] | wagnerrp: | if you want, you can truncate it to only include a few minutes around the time you attempted livetv |
| [03:28:40] | sphery: | that approach is the approach most likely to contain everything to start debugging |
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| [03:29:22] | cnz: | Im going to erase all the logs to generate fresh ones |
| [03:29:33] | wagnerrp: | why erase? |
| [03:29:43] | wagnerrp: | mythtv creates a new log file for each instance |
| [03:30:38] | cnz: | cause it will get rid of the old ones |
| [03:30:49] | skd5aner: | Just convert the semi-cryptic logfile name by taking your local timezone, and differeniate the time/date between your time zone and UTC, taking in to account DST or not, and you've got hte right one! ;D |
| [03:30:54] | wagnerrp: | so? we only want the latest log file from the latest instance |
| [03:31:09] | cnz: | wagnerrp, i understand that |
| [03:31:17] | cnz: | i want to delete the old ones because i dont' want them |
| [03:31:34] | wagnerrp: | so then delete them |
| [03:31:36] | skd5aner: | cnz: go for it – doesn't matter, you can do that if you want... |
| [03:31:36] | sphery: | any sane app uses utc |
| [03:31:57] | skd5aner: | sphery: my sarcasm meter is starting to beep |
| [03:32:06] | sphery: | :) |
| [03:32:42] | cnz: | wagnerrp, no new logs were generated |
| [03:36:40] | cnz: | yeah no logs are generating |
| [03:36:43] | sphery: | that might explain why the logs had no errors ;) |
| [03:36:53] | cnz: | and when I click on watch tv it loads playback starting then closes |
| [03:37:08] | cnz: | and goes back to the option menu |
| [03:37:11] | sphery: | how are you starting mythbackend/mythfrontend? |
| [03:37:25] | sphery: | a proper/working start script should set up logging for you |
| [03:37:46] | sphery: | alternatively, start it (as the right user) in a terminal and you will get log output to the terminal |
| [03:37:59] | cnz: | applications > sound and videos > mythtv frontend |
| [03:38:14] | sphery: | (assuming that your distro doesn't provide a wrapper script, which you use without knowing it, that uses different options) |
| [03:38:17] | cnz: | I will see if it does the same from terminal |
| [03:38:41] | sphery: | sounds like your logging configuration (in the start scripts) is broken |
| [03:39:03] | cnz: | samething happens when starting it from terminal |
| [03:39:26] | cnz: | I can go into the backend setup and view all the channels |
| [03:39:35] | cnz: | and the program guide to setup a recording all that shows up |
| [03:39:53] | cnz: | just watch tv doesn't want to work |
| [03:40:03] | cnz: | says playback starting then goes back to main menu options |
| [03:40:52] | squidly: | sphery: I was wrong.. my data base was over a year old.. |
| [03:41:08] | sphery: | your backup was? |
| [03:41:20] | sphery: | that's old |
| [03:41:34] | squidly: | yes |
| [03:41:43] | squidly: | so I get to redo everything I did in the last year.. |
| [03:43:17] | bill6502: | cnz: mythfrontend -v playback --logpath /tmp, then pastebinit /tmp/mythfrontend.20121219*.log and paste the URL here |
| [03:43:22] | sphery: | but in the future, you'll always have a good DB backup strategy! :) |
| [03:43:56] | sphery: | in theory, though, all it takes is: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . #Quick_Start and then setting up a cron or whatever |
| [03:44:02] | cnz: | bill6502, K |
| [03:44:21] | squidly: | sphery: yep. as soon as I get this all going.. repliction and backups |
| [03:44:41] | uglyoldbob: | sphery: both the users are on the same host |
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| [03:47:26] | cnz: | bill6502, http://pastebin.com/WB0BZwPq |
| [03:48:58] | wagnerrp: | that's the frontend logs, we need backend |
| [03:49:19] | cnz: | wagnerrp, read what bill6502 asked for |
| [03:49:44] | wagnerrp: | yes, but we need backend logs |
| [03:49:54] | wagnerrp: | read what i originally asked for |
| [03:49:56] | bill6502: | my mistake, are you running mythbuntu? |
| [03:50:00] | cnz: | no |
| [03:50:05] | cnz: | im running debian wheezy |
| [03:50:22] | cnz: | wagnerrp, no backend logs are being generated |
| [03:50:35] | wagnerrp: | how are you running mythbackend? |
| [03:50:58] | cnz: | service mythtv-backend start |
| [03:51:12] | wagnerrp: | try just running mythbackend manually |
| [03:51:17] | cnz: | k |
| [03:51:23] | wagnerrp: | with the --logpath argument bill6502 gave |
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| [03:53:43] | cnz: | wagnerrp http://pastebin.com/yag9Vw5a there we go |
| [03:53:46] | cnz: | lol |
| [03:54:54] | wagnerrp: | you didn't define any recording storage |
| [03:55:03] | wagnerrp: | and the default /mnt/store is not accessible |
| [03:55:34] | cnz: | blah seriously |
| [03:55:37] | cnz: | that will cause it? |
| [03:55:57] | wagnerrp: | how is mythtv supposed to record if it has no write access anywhere? |
| [03:56:34] | cnz: | I don't want it to record |
| [03:56:38] | cnz: | just want it to play live tv |
| [03:56:45] | wagnerrp: | yes, you want it to record |
| [03:56:51] | wagnerrp: | livetv is a recording |
| [03:56:57] | wagnerrp: | that's how DVRs work |
| [03:57:07] | cnz: | I know how dvrs work :) |
| [03:57:41] | [R]: | obviously not... |
| [03:58:10] | cnz: | no just didn't think i had to seutp a path for recording if i wasn't going to record live tv |
| [03:58:11] | devinheitmueller: | Probably better stated, In the case of MythTV, that's how DVRs *don't* work. |
| [03:58:12] | cnz: | just watch it |
| [03:58:29] | wagnerrp: | all live tv is recorded |
| [03:58:29] | cnz: | devinheitmueller, yeah |
| [03:58:42] | wagnerrp: | you record it, and then you play the recording with a couple second delay |
| [03:59:00] | cnz: | maybe with mythtv :) |
| [03:59:09] | devinheitmueller: | cnz: I was being sarcastic, making a dig at how crappy MythTV handles LiveTV nowadays. |
| [03:59:27] | cnz: | wagnerrp, so what option do i want to set the path |
| [03:59:30] | devinheitmueller: | cnz: wagnerrp is correct. All DVRs record live TV. That's how you're able to pause LiveTV and replay it. |
| [03:59:54] | wagnerrp: | the Storage Directories setting in mythtv-setup |
| [04:00:06] | cnz: | kk thanks :) |
| [04:00:12] | devinheitmueller: | If livetv weren't' being record, you wouldn't be able to be watching livetv and say, "wait a second, was that Janet Jackson's breast?" |
| [04:00:21] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:00:28] | wagnerrp: | nope, just a pastie |
| [04:00:59] | cnz: | lol devinheitmueller |
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| [04:04:19] | cnz: | wagnerrp, thanks |
| [04:04:21] | cnz: | working now |
| [04:04:45] | cnz: | it's coming in like shit because im downloading which is just lol |
| [04:05:12] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [04:05:26] | wagnerrp: | recordings should be completely independent of how much you're taxing the internet |
| [04:05:41] | wagnerrp: | unless you're trying to record off an IPTV box or something |
| [04:06:03] | wagnerrp: | and then shame on your IPTV provider for not implementing proper QoS protocols |
| [04:06:38] | cnz: | nah just cablecard inside pc |
| [04:07:07] | cnz: | on a 50/15 connection only downloading at 2.5MB/sec |
| [04:07:19] | cnz: | so it shouldn't make shit come in choppy |
| [04:07:45] | wagnerrp: | it shouldn't come in choppy period |
| [04:07:48] | wagnerrp: | because cable is not internet |
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| [04:09:43] | cnz: | that's what i thought |
| [04:09:58] | cnz: | wonder if it's because im downloading to the same pc |
| [04:10:03] | cnz: | and the hdd is just under a lot of stress |
| [04:10:07] | wagnerrp: | unless your disk throughput is pathetic and you're dropping data |
| [04:10:54] | [R]: | like that song |
| [04:10:55] | [R]: | UNDER |
| [04:10:56] | [R]: | PRESSURE |
| [04:11:20] | wagnerrp: | they stole that song from vanilla ice |
| [04:11:38] | wagnerrp: | david bowie and queen... no talent hacks... |
| [04:11:39] | cnz: | vanilla ice is my hero |
| [04:11:50] | [R]: | wagnerrp: haha |
| [04:12:25] | wagnerrp: | stupid netgear switch, why do you not like ntp? is ISC data too good for you? |
| [04:13:07] | cnz: | who runs netgear anymore? |
| [04:13:16] | wagnerrp: | hey, it was cheap |
| [04:13:21] | cnz: | it's also crap |
| [04:13:28] | wagnerrp: | sure, but cheap crap |
| [04:13:57] | cnz: | why not buy good stuff cause in the long run it's worth it |
| [04:14:36] | wagnerrp: | because i really have no need for a managed switch, just one with a lot of ports and adequate throughput |
| [04:14:53] | cnz: | i c |
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| [04:27:52] | linuxtech: | I want to delete some old settings for frontends that no longer exist. I found an old post to the mythtv user list saying I can get the hostnames with: mysql> SELECT DISTINCT `hostname` FROM `settings`;. One hostname is OLDHOSTNAME. Can I delete it, or is it something that should stay in the db? And are the hostnames only stored for frontend settings, or does include backend settings? |
| [04:29:55] | linuxtech: | Another hosted listed is NULL, should I delete that one too? |
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| [04:40:32] | uglyoldbob: | ok the zoom mode isn't because of a bad setting on the problematic user (i deleted and recreated the user – still has zoom mode problems) |
| [04:41:10] | wagnerrp: | linuxtech: you shouldn't be tinkering in the database |
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| [05:10:40] | uglyoldbob: | ok turns out the affected users were not in the "video" group. Adding them to the "video" group solved the zoom problem |
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| [05:32:56] | fleixius_: | Grrr getting tired of these stale nfs handlers! |
| [05:34:01] | sheppard: | stop dropping your network connection then |
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| [05:35:51] | fleixius_: | I blame suspending |
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| [06:17:34] | wagnerrp: | stop using nfs? |
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| [15:44:23] | ViperSBT: | On Fedora I have been using MythTV 25, just did a yum update and am going up to 25.3–1, but I see that 26 is the new stable... How do I go from 25 to 26? |
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| [16:19:34] | streeter: | ViperSBT: if you enabled the rpmfusion repo and installed mythtv from there using yum, then "yum update" should take you to the 0.26 version. |
| [16:23:16] | streeter: | ViperSBT: well, on F17 it will. it doesn't look like it's been updated for 16 or 15 |
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| [16:29:15] | ViperSBT: | And I'm on 16 of course... :) |
| [16:29:23] | ViperSBT: | Thanks Streeter... |
| [16:29:33] | ViperSBT: | I guess when it becomes available I'll see it... |
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| [16:34:14] | streeter: | ViperSBT: I don't know what the policy is of the people who support mythtv on rpmfusion. They may only plan to update on the latest release. 16 is on 0.25 and 15 is on 0.24 |
| [16:34:46] | streeter: | there might be some way on the rpmfustion web site to request that they update f16 |
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| [16:49:35] | ViperSBT: | OK, so I am currently installed using YUM, how can I change to another method that would allow me to stay more up to date without being dependent on the YUM repos? |
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| [17:18:47] | robert5: | can anyone give me some pointers on lirc. I think i need some help? |
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| [17:22:54] | Scopeuk: | robert5: it's usually best just to post the question/query and wait |
| [17:26:33] | robert5: | Scopeuk, OK, perfect, thank, I have been working on this for the last few days and I am getting frustrated |
| [17:32:15] | robert5: | Using Mythbuntu 12.04.1 (clean install) and an MCE IR receiver with 2 ir blasters. MCE works to receive signal from remote but does not work when using blasters. The IRSEND command returns a timeout. I have tried two identical usb receivers and both behave the same. This setup worked for years previously. |
| [17:34:21] | robert5: | This is definitely a driver issue. |
| [17:35:58] | jams: | robert5, your not the first to run across that, however I don't know how to fix it |
| [17:36:50] | jams: | my thought is that the driver needs to be set to use lirc protocol instead of the builtin, but just a guess |
| [17:37:19] | robert5: | jams, Thanks, it just concerns me that it is a clean install. I will keep working on it and will document it when I figure it out |
| [17:37:54] | jams: | what were you using before the clean install? |
| [17:38:35] | robert5: | mythbuntu 11.04 or 11.10 |
| [17:38:46] | robert5: | It worked great |
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| [17:40:38] | robert5: | So it has something to do with changed made in mythbuntu. |
| [17:42:25] | robert5: | I think drivers were moved from lirc to the kernel in that time period |
| [17:42:27] | jams: | maybe..i dont' recall what kernel 11 used, but most drivers for lirc were moved into the kernel and made to look like "normal" input devices. |
| [17:43:03] | jams: | which is why i'm thinking that the protocol needs to be flipped back to lirc |
| [17:43:11] | robert5: | just waht i was thinking |
| [17:43:16] | jams: | but anyway it's something to look into |
| [17:43:45] | robert5: | OK, thanks jams, I will try to build an older version |
| [17:43:51] | jams: | my one mce blaster that I had was sent to the lirc dev years ago and it hasn't made it back to me :) |
| [17:45:11] | jams: | an older version should work, or change the protocal used for the current driver |
| [17:45:14] | robert5: | ahhh, I am sure that blaster help many |
| [17:46:12] | robert5: | please excuse my ignorance, now do I change the protocol |
| [17:47:01] | jams: | look in /syss/class/rc/*/protocols |
| [17:47:23] | robert5: | Ok, thanks :) |
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| [17:48:02] | jams: | that gives a list of whats supported..just echo "lirc" into that file so that it's the only one listed |
| [17:48:55] | jams: | or the commandcenter may have something to do that for you..i dont' know |
| [17:51:41] | robert5: | would the protocol effect irsend |
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| [17:52:34] | jams: | well thats what your testing :) |
| [17:56:46] | robert5: | the output from ir-keytable is: |
| [17:56:52] | robert5: | Found /sys/class/rc/rc0/ (/dev/input/event3) with: |
| [17:56:52] | robert5: | Driver mceusb, table rc-rc6-mce |
| [17:56:52] | robert5: | Supported protocols: NEC RC-5 RC-6 JVC SONY LIRC other |
| [17:56:52] | robert5: | Enabled protocols: LIRC |
| [17:56:52] | robert5: | Repeat delay = 500 ms, repeat period = 125 ms |
| [17:57:45] | robert5: | to me it looks like it is using the wrong protocol |
| [17:58:23] | robert5: | it is using LIRC instead of a MCE or RC-5/6 protocol |
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| [18:30:49] | robert5: | OK, might be on to something |
| [18:31:38] | robert5: | In /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file, all the parameters for "#Chosen IR Transmitter" are left blank |
| [18:32:38] | robert5: | for people with irsend working, is this section left blank in the conf file |
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| [21:32:28] | marsilainen_: | hi all... is there a 'best' mythtv distro at the moment? I'm currently running mythbuntu but it's an older version and I plan on reinstalling in the next couple of weeks so I wondered if I should consider any other distros before using the latest mythbuntu? |
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| [22:13:03] | skd5aner: | tonsofpcs: ping, you aorund? |
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| [23:39:08] | wjs111: | Hello, I'm running a 0.25 linhes server with the mythtv android app. Having problems with the list recordings function presently. Nothing shows. |
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| [23:56:26] | myth: | Problem with system that was working for ~3weeks. Live TV fails with "Video Frame Buffing Failed Too Many Times". suggestions for remedy? |
| [23:56:38] | wjs222: | how do I investigate problems with mythtv-android? |
| [23:59:42] | myth: | tap..tap Mork calling Orson ;) |
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