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| [00:17:27] | ahhughes: | does the mythtv database hold information about a tv shows.. season, and episode? |
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| [00:40:45] | tekdoc: | hi |
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| [02:48:04] | hmm: | hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if myth-tv is able to send out 1080i to a 1080p lcd tv with deinterlacing? Whenever I set the deinterlacers to none, I still get only 30 frames per second. I assume my tv can deinterlace the content? |
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| [03:42:35] | wagnerrp: | there is a special method you need to use to allow playback to change output format to do what you want |
| [03:42:41] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what the process is |
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| [06:10:29] | MylesMan: | I'm running.26 is there a reason why when updating packages (routine update) i'd be dling libmyth-025 & 026? |
| [06:10:38] | MylesMan: | is that normal |
| [06:10:45] | MylesMan: | because i am |
| [06:11:02] | wagnerrp: | are you downloading binary packages or source? |
| [06:11:14] | MylesMan: | binary ubuntu |
| [06:11:44] | MylesMan: | it's just libmyth doing this |
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| [06:13:27] | MylesMan: | could that explain my buffering failure during live tv channel changes? |
| [06:13:40] | MylesMan: | failures* |
| [06:13:44] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [06:13:51] | MylesMan: | ok |
| [06:14:08] | MylesMan: | darn lol |
| [06:14:25] | MylesMan: | still haven't fixed that |
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| [06:23:21] | MylesMan: | should i worry about the double libmyth issue? |
| [06:24:22] | wagnerrp: | it's certainly odd |
| [06:24:27] | wagnerrp: | it's worth following up on |
| [06:25:37] | MylesMan: | followup with the myth/ubuntu folks? |
| [06:25:51] | MylesMan: | or uninstall 025 |
| [06:26:02] | MylesMan: | and see if it breaks lol |
| [06:26:09] | wagnerrp: | could go either way |
| [06:26:19] | wagnerrp: | i've never used ubuntu, so i have no idea what might be happening |
| [06:26:27] | wagnerrp: | no experience with that packaging system |
| [06:27:00] | MylesMan: | aight, thank you :) |
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| [07:38:59] | uglyoldbob: | i have a backtrace for mythfrontend crashing while watching a recording |
| [07:41:40] | uglyoldbob: | http://pastebin.com/tckPX2vc |
| [07:43:46] | uglyoldbob: | recording size is 53 MB so i can easily make it available for download |
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| [08:49:06] | Beirdo: | why must getaddrinfo() suck? |
| [08:50:20] | wagnerrp: | is there some context to that? |
| [08:50:33] | Beirdo: | I can't set the bloody timeout |
| [08:50:46] | Beirdo: | and it's taking 134s to say "oh hell, I give up" |
| [08:51:26] | Beirdo: | I've intentionally null routed the DNS servers to test timeout code |
| [08:52:36] | Beirdo: | DNS failure, interval 120.0s, remaining delay -14.073s |
| [08:52:42] | Beirdo: | great :) |
| [08:54:19] | Beirdo: | I guess I might as well set the minimum interval to 180s |
| [09:03:17] | stickman0236: | Anyone here work on the android front-end? |
| [09:03:40] | wagnerrp: | well there are alternate asynchronous resolvers to work around that issue |
| [09:09:24] | Beirdo: | available in python? on QNX? |
| [09:09:44] | wagnerrp: | this is blackberry stuff? |
| [09:09:55] | Beirdo: | umm, maybe :) |
| [09:10:02] | wagnerrp: | glibc has a getaddrinfo_a() method |
| [09:10:13] | Beirdo: | I know |
| [09:10:23] | wagnerrp: | you would have to reimplement the same for qnx if there is none such already |
| [09:10:33] | Beirdo: | it doesn't show up in the QNX man page equivalents |
| [09:10:48] | Beirdo: | and I'm not up for implementing that right now |
| [09:11:04] | Beirdo: | this needs to get committed tomorrow. |
| [09:11:26] | Beirdo: | I'll live with the first interval being 180s |
| [09:11:44] | wagnerrp: | QNX docs say it's only 90s |
| [09:11:49] | wagnerrp: | (per name server) |
| [09:12:01] | Beirdo: | it's 135s |
| [09:12:03] | Beirdo: | measured |
| [09:12:15] | Beirdo: | with two nameservers both null routed |
| [09:13:06] | wagnerrp: | oh google... why must you capture my forward slashes for your own nefarious purposes... |
| [09:13:13] | Beirdo: | now, let's see it recover next time around without the null routes, then I stop for the night, and go the hell home |
| [09:14:13] | Beirdo: | yay! |
| [09:14:16] | Beirdo: | recovery works |
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| [09:15:09] | ** wagnerrp pushes and goes to bed ** | |
| [09:15:23] | wagnerrp: | good thing python can't cause buildbot errors |
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| [09:28:14] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [09:35:55] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [09:36:12] | Beirdo: | a successful DNS lookup over AT&T 4G LTE: 2.348s |
| [09:36:19] | Beirdo: | craptacular |
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| [10:40:15] | justinh: | somebody needs to work on the android front end. jees. Loading the entire list of recordings into memory.. on a handheld? Seriously not such a good idea. Not when it's the WHOLE of the list. Title, start time, end time, subtitle, channel, description... |
| [10:40:22] | justinh: | CRASH |
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| [10:55:24] | Seeker`: | justinh: how many recordings do you have? |
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| [12:59:29] | somethinginteres: | Mythtv is behaving as if my Storage Directories are set to an incorrect path but I can verify the path is correct. Any ideas why I'd still get LiveTV failed errors when it's worked previously (a few days ago?) |
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| [13:04:38] | somethinginteres: | looks like it was a permissions error. |
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| [14:17:20] | BaldScribe: | willie59 |
| [14:17:37] | BaldScribe: | sorry |
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| [17:42:55] | tonsofpcs: | any solution to a broadcaster who has continuously failing repetition rates? the myth decoder seems to barf on this channel at least once every 5 minutes... |
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| [18:21:12] | jklaus: | oh man.. I'm preforming an system upgrade on my mythbuntu install |
| [18:21:17] | jklaus: | here's to hoping it comes back to life. |
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| [19:10:02] | squidly: | How often does Mythtv backup the database automatically? |
| [19:12:04] | wagnerrp: | every time you update the schema |
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| [19:13:10] | squidly: | wagnerrp: Ok that is what I thought, but it does not automatically dump the database on say a daily basis.. |
| [19:13:13] | squidly: | (damn) |
| [19:13:47] | wagnerrp: | no, but you can use the packaged database backup script and run it through cron |
| [19:18:16] | squidly: | wagnerrp: /me nods |
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| [19:18:35] | squidly: | I will have to do that from now on. My Sql server dropped it's raid array last night |
| [19:30:02] | sphery: | wagnerrp: did you notice http://www.mythbuntu.org/ (works) vs http://mythbuntu.org/ ? |
| [19:30:25] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [19:30:27] | sphery: | I mentioned it in #mythbuntu, but it is a very quiet channel :) |
| [19:30:43] | sphery: | try the link without www |
| [19:30:45] | wagnerrp: | perhaps #ubuntu-mythtv-dev would be a better location? |
| [19:30:59] | sphery: | ah, didn't realize they had a -dev channel |
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| [19:32:38] | sphery: | squidly: we don't back up the database daily because doing so at "inopportune" times could result in recording and/or data corruption--so we need to get more and better tracking of what's currently occurring (on all various backends and frontends) and what is scheduled to occur and when before we can do automatic DB maintenance |
| [19:32:56] | sphery: | (this is especially true on underpowered systems that many people love) |
| [19:33:09] | wagnerrp: | because theyre so green! |
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| [19:34:27] | sphery: | so as wagnerrp mentioned, the current suggested approach is to handle it yourself--either in start/stop scripts, cron (ideally at a time when the likelihood of anything happening is low), or whatever |
| [19:35:02] | squidly: | sphery: yep. Though I think I found a bet of a better solution. I can just replicate the database between two machines |
| [19:35:18] | wagnerrp: | and a rather complicated one at that |
| [19:35:24] | squidly: | I'm just having to rebuild my database now because it fried last night. |
| [19:35:41] | wagnerrp: | would be better to just incorporate a new housekeeper program |
| [19:35:45] | wagnerrp: | that tracks when the system is idle |
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| [19:35:50] | wagnerrp: | similar to the EIT scanner |
| [19:36:16] | sphery: | I'm a big fan of a SQL-based (plain-text, usable regardless) backup of the database no matter what other approaches you take |
| [19:36:17] | wagnerrp: | sphery: speaking of which, it would probably be a good idea to get mythfilldatabase to do the same |
| [19:36:17] | squidly: | I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do so I can get something of a database working so I can rebuild the system as best I can |
| [19:36:35] | squidly: | is there a way I can have it track my recoarded show or will those pretty much be toast? |
| [19:36:51] | sphery: | the SQL-based backup created by http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore can be used without even MySQL |
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| [19:37:29] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, planning to do that, too, when I get around to the better "what's up" tracking |
| [19:38:11] | wagnerrp: | might want to hold off until i get the housekeeper stuff pushed |
| [19:39:04] | sphery: | hehe, just got a reply--they switched servers and the workaround they had in place broke downloads, so mythbuntu.org site is by design until a better solution comes along |
| [19:39:05] | squidly: | sphery: the last backup I have is about 2 months old. .Lots of tv watched in that time |
| [19:39:42] | sphery: | squidly: your database binary data files are all gone/broken beyond use? |
| [19:39:51] | squidly: | sphery: yes |
| [19:40:07] | squidly: | the raid array they were got fried |
| [19:41:05] | sphery: | if so, the best solution is probably to use your 2-mo-old DB backup, then http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py (to clean up orphaned metadata from watched-and-deleted-in-the-interim recordings and to find orphaned recording files from recorded-in-the-last-two-months shows, which you can then move to Video Library to watch) |
| [19:41:58] | sphery: | that will maintain all but the last 2 mos of history |
| [19:42:05] | squidly: | sphery: yea I'm not that worried about the stuff that was recoarded in the last 2 months. |
| [19:42:33] | squidly: | I'm actually more worried about my video library.. that's going to be a pain if I have to re-class everything in there |
| [19:42:45] | sphery: | and those shows you recorded in the interim will be re-recorded on rerun--and you could either delete the new recordings or (if you prefer) delete the old moved-to-Video-Library recordings so things are in Video Library |
| [19:43:10] | sphery: | the biggest challenge will be figuring out what show each of the recent recordings happens to be |
| [19:43:47] | sphery: | In theory, re-populating Video Library metadata should be rather easy--assuming you used good naming scheme and metadata sites actually had info on those videos |
| [19:43:51] | squidly: | sphery: that will actually be pretty easy |
| [19:44:49] | squidly: | sphery: I do for the most part. I just have it separated by catagories like Childen, Sci-Fi, Action, Drama, Documentary |
| [19:44:57] | squidly: | I dont wnat to have to go though and rebuild that listing |
| [19:45:06] | sphery: | ah, yeah, that will be more work to rebuild |
| [19:45:19] | sphery: | though in theory, will only require updating the last 2 mos of new videos |
| [19:45:59] | sphery: | (I'm guessing you don't have /that/ many new videos in there--unless you were one of the people with way too many recordings in Watch Recordings and you took my advice about moving large collections of recordings to Video Library for the better UI :) |
| [19:46:31] | squidly: | sphery: only for some shows Like The West Wing, Firefly and a few other tv shows |
| [19:46:50] | squidly: | The rest is just about 900 Videos of eating up 2.2 tb |
| [19:48:19] | sphery: | were most of them there 2 months ago? if so, the DB data should be the same as it was |
| [19:48:37] | sphery: | so assuming you didn't just re-organize them within the last 2mos |
| [19:51:09] | sphery: | squidly: anyway, good luck--and I feel your pain |
| [19:51:33] | sphery: | it seems the more HDDs I get, the more HDD failures I have |
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| [19:52:11] | sphery: | (and cleaning up after them is often a challenge--especially since so little on them is worth backing up, so it's often just "resetting" or starting over, like you're doing) |
| [19:59:58] | wizbit: | "you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version." – Linus Torvalds |
| [20:08:29] | squidly: | sphery: thanks |
| [20:08:43] | squidly: | sphery: there are a couple that are. |
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| [20:08:48] | squidly: | I think like 20 or so |
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| [21:29:00] | uglyoldbob: | how do i enable xv-blit for mythfrontend (the log says "renderer xv-blit is not supported w/decoder ffmpeg") |
| [21:31:19] | uglyoldbob: | should i recompile ffmpeg or mythfrontend? |
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| [21:47:56] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: please show the actual log because genreally xv-blit is the only useful renderer with ffmpeg decoder |
| [21:48:17] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: to pastebin, please |
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| [22:15:22] | uglyoldbob: | sphery: which log do you want? "mythfrontend -v playback" or "./configure" while compiling? |
| [22:15:33] | sphery: | mythfrontend log |
| [22:17:37] | uglyoldbob: | http://pastebin.com/nyAa357a |
| [22:19:12] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: is this causing problems? it looks like you didn't even try a playback and this is just information (notices) it's outputting--not errors, or even warnings |
| [22:19:38] | uglyoldbob: | i cant set playback to xv from settings |
| [22:20:00] | sphery: | but it does look like you've built mythtv incorrectly |
| [22:20:05] | sphery: | can I see your configure output |
| [22:20:28] | sphery: | btw, what video card/drivers do you have? |
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| [22:22:02] | uglyoldbob: | i have a radeon hd 5770 with fglrx (the radeon driver won't display anything on the hdmi output) |
| [22:22:37] | sphery: | ok, that should be fine (ideally it would use opengl, though, not xv) |
| [22:22:50] | sphery: | still, I'm guessing there's a problem in your build |
| [22:23:02] | sphery: | configure output would likely be useful in finding it |
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| [22:25:48] | uglyoldbob: | configure output http://pastebin.com/MG9NS4G4 |
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| [22:29:32] | sphery: | uglyoldbob: that's the output from the configure run from the build you're currently running? |
| [22:30:27] | sphery: | also, fwiw, you may want to use --enable-proc-opt |
| [22:31:15] | jya: | quick question in regards to recording and the maximum number of recordings |
| [22:31:43] | jya: | I had a record all "Play School" rule for the past 3 years |
| [22:31:52] | jya: | realised I had over 1TB of those |
| [22:31:58] | sphery: | wagnerrp: speaking of which--I just remembered you had mentioned an inability to run your build from one processor on a system with a very different proc... That's to be expected (and especially when using --enable-proc-opt), and the --cpu/--march/--tune stuff is there for people who are "packaging" generic builds for multiple procs (which it seems you're doing) |
| [22:31:58] | jya: | 440 of them |
| [22:32:15] | jya: | so I changed the recording rule to not record more than 5 |
| [22:32:34] | jya: | all 440 showed in the recording list (the one you access from the frontend in the first Recordings menu) |
| [22:32:42] | jya: | then a new recording occurred |
| [22:33:00] | jya: | and sure enough, in the All Programs list, I can now only count 5 playschool |
| [22:33:08] | jya: | however, disk space didn't change. |
| [22:33:15] | sphery: | jya: they're in Deleted rec group, now |
| [22:33:29] | jya: | so I changed from All Programs to "Playschool" |
| [22:33:32] | jya: | and they are all there |
| [22:34:09] | sphery: | jya: if you exit Watch Recordings and re-enter, are they still there? |
| [22:34:18] | sphery: | or are you using mythweb, now, to look |
| [22:34:26] | sphery: | if so, I heard that there's a bug where it's showing Deleted recordings |
| [22:34:28] | jya: | no, because when I come back it goes back to All Recordings |
| [22:34:32] | jya: | which only show the last 5 |
| [22:34:48] | sphery: | right, then if you change back to Playschool, are they gone? |
| [22:34:48] | jya: | they are easy to spot, there are every day, so manually counting is easy |
| [22:34:56] | jya: | seeing that it's 3/4 of my recordings :) |
| [22:35:01] | jya: | no they aren't |
| [22:35:09] | jya: | they are in Playschool |
| [22:35:21] | jya: | the rule change from all to max of 5, was done last week |
| [22:35:26] | sphery: | if that's the case, it seems it's not a caching issue in mythfrontend |
| [22:35:31] | jya: | it had plenty of time to do whatever it was supposed to do |
| [22:35:46] | jya: | let me check mythweb |
| [22:36:04] | jya: | ah there are 214 episodes of play school now |
| [22:36:15] | sphery: | and you changed the existing rule, rather than creating a new rule to replace the old? |
| [22:36:16] | jya: | so it has deleted some |
| [22:36:23] | jya: | I guess I just have to wait and see |
| [22:36:27] | jya: | that's right |
| [22:36:32] | jya: | I only changed the existing rule |
| [22:36:39] | sphery: | yeah, sounds like it's deleting them, but the backend is a bit swamped |
| [22:36:41] | jya: | using mythweb, only added to max recordings: 5 |
| [22:36:46] | sphery: | we actually spawn a new thread for each delete |
| [22:36:58] | jya: | the backend is sitting idle at 0% CPU forever :) |
| [22:37:11] | jya: | it's a pretty gutsy backend |
| [22:37:25] | sphery: | and it's likely that it tries to delete a ton and then only gets a few |
| [22:37:26] | jya: | I upgraded not long ago (2.8GHz quad-core i5, 8GB of RAM) |
| [22:37:35] | sphery: | then next recording it tries to delete again and ... |
| [22:38:17] | jya: | so you're saying that it will keep trying until it finally succeeds ? |
| [22:38:34] | sphery: | and now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that the max episodes deletion doesn't use the delete queue (Deleted recgroup) |
| [22:38:44] | jya: | it's a 8TB RAID arrary, I have 300GB left that I set as how much free space to keep, this has worked fine for years |
| [22:38:45] | sphery: | so that explains why they're still in Playschool group |
| [22:40:31] | sphery: | I think it will keep trying |
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| [22:41:29] | sphery: | or you could "hurry it along" with a manual delete (such as highlighting Playschool group in Watch Recordings, then MENU|Add this group to the playlist, then MENU|Playlist options|Delete (or Delete and allow re-record) |
| [22:42:09] | jya: | do you realise how long it's going to take me to do that? |
| [22:42:26] | jya: | it's not like a delete is a simple operation... |
| [22:42:43] | jya: | menu, down, down, down….. ok, delete, yes |
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| [22:44:55] | sphery: | the playlist approach I mentioned would do all of them in one fell swoop |
| [22:45:58] | sphery: | literally, MENU and 2(?) down keys to Add this group to playlist, and then MENU and a couple of down keys to Playlist options, then one up key to Delete and allow re-record (or one more to Delete) |
| [22:46:25] | sphery: | I'd guess around 10 keypresses total, once you find the Playschool group on the left column |
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| [23:31:07] | squidly: | sphery: does find orphans work with 0.26? |
| [23:32:54] | sphery: | squidly: I was thinking that wagnerrp had some updates in his git repo for 0.26, but I don't know the details |
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| [23:49:19] | lapion: | all my analog reecordiings are breajubg at about the 10th minute, anyone else having this problem? |
| [23:49:52] | lapion: | *breaking |
| [23:54:04] | lapion: | in the list they are not marked as broken, even the duration is correct. during playback the recording is also correct however pb is stopped at about the 10th minute |
| [23:54:36] | sphery: | pretty sure the "broken recording" check is for gaps in timestamps |
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| [23:55:12] | sphery: | so if it records 10min without gap, then gets no other data (and, /crucially/, no errors from the capture device/driver), MythTV thinks it got a good recording |
| [23:55:46] | sphery: | I know many had (have) problems with analog recordings, lately |
| [23:55:56] | sphery: | I'm pretty sure a fix went into 0.26-fixes not too long ago |
| [23:56:06] | sphery: | so if nothing else, make sure you're on the most-current 0.26-fixes |
| [23:57:09] | lapion: | I until 3 day ago allmost al recordings where problemfree |
| [23:57:10] | sphery: | (IIRC, the fix was to handle changes in how the driver communicates with MythTV--the kernel/drivers changed underneath us, so we had to update our code to handle the changes) |
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