Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, November 30th, 2012, 00:06 UTC

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stuartm:

http://blogs.wandisco.com/wp-content/uploads/ . . . -300x235.png

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skd5aner:

I have a feeling there are going to be more and more XBMC users coming in here now that XBMC is officially supporting a variety of software DVRs to backend XBMC for television watching

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skd5aner:

FYI, in case you hadn't heard – http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=PVR

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skd5aner:

stuartm: you happen to be around?

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tonsofpcs:

so you're saying that insteaad of mythtvfrontend I should run XBMC on my presentation device?

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scottyanke:

Beginning with release 0.26, timestamps of recordings are stored in UTC. Is there any way to go back to local timestamps? I ask because I look for programs based on timestamp, not through the database.

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Captain_Murdoch:

scottyanke, no way to have MythTV use local timestamps. you might be able to use mythlink.pl to create links with local times, if not it might make a good addition for people who prefer to see local times in filenames/links.

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scottyanke:

Thanks Captain_Murdoch. I generally just use the filenames instead of the frontend to MythTV. I'll have to get used to all of my times being off by 5 or 6 hours. It was worth a shot.

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Captain_Murdoch:

sounds like you'd be better off using mythlink.pl then anyway and using titles rather than chanids and times.

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Captain_Murdoch:

I can't tell you what network a lot of the shows I watch come on, much less the time or date or chanid.

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scottyanke:

I'll give mythlink.pl a try. I doesn't say that it supports 0.26 yet, but I'll assume it does for now. I'm the same with not really knowing what network or even time most of the shows I record are on. I'm too dependent on the scheduling...

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skd5aner:

holy cow – mfe is using 190% CPU... uh, I'm using vdpau, wtf?

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wagnerrp:

tonsofpcs: no. we're not saying that at all.

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tonsofpcs:

:)

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skd5aner:

I've got to admit, there are some weird, inconvenient side effects of the UTC conversion... for example, timestamping log files and recordings in UTC...

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skd5aner:

can make it difficult to eyeball stuff

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tonsofpcs:

just change all of your clocks to UTC, problem solved :)

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wagnerrp:

the names of the recordings makes perfect sense

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wagnerrp:

since you're not supposed to be touching those recording files directly anyhow

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wagnerrp:

the log timestamps... not so much

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: for troubleshooting, it's nice to be able to eyeball the file names, but only usually have to do that on rare occasions

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skd5aner:

(on recordings)

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: I think Peter is screwed...

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wagnerrp:

fringe?

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skd5aner:

yup

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wagnerrp:

im sitting here trying to figure out what peter you might be talking about

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Sharky112065:

Walter will save him

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skd5aner:

Well, Peter Griffin is likely screwed too... but everyone already knew that

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skd5aner:

Walter was hoping Peter would save him

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skd5aner:

If I was the writers... I would make Peter evolve into the observer they knew as September, which would be why he was trying to save them

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wagnerrp:

ooooooooo

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wagnerrp:

i think you might have something there

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skd5aner:

pure speculation, of course... but with this show, it's so hard to guess more than 1 episode ahead

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Sharky112065:

skd5aner: that might just be it

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JoeyJoeJo:

I messed up my listings. Is there an easy way to clear them all so I can run mythfilldatabase again from scratch?

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[R]:

what do you mean you messed the mup?

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JoeyJoeJo:

Well, I was using EIT as a source and hated it, so I just got Schedules Direct. Now I noticed that some show titles and their information are mismatched

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[R]:

use --dd-grab-all with mythfill

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[R]:

and make sure eit is disabled

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JoeyJoeJo:

ok, thanks

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wagnerrp:

hahahaha....

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wagnerrp:

| 21710 | NormandSta | Normand Stanley | movethatbooty@learnhowtolapdance.org

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wagnerrp:

banninated...

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[R]:

wtf...

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[R]:

a website can teach me how to lapdance!?

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wagnerrp:

heres one... jennydimplethighs

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wagnerrp:

WTH is a thigh dimple?

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[R]:

hrm

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wagnerrp:

!seen dekarl

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MythLogBot:

dekarl is here and has been idle for 9 hours 8 minutes 57 seconds

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wagnerrp:

any chance you're up yet?

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wagnerrp:

or anyone else speak german?

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toeb:

wagnerrp: yes, why?

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wagnerrp:

does this email mean something that merits a preemptive ban from the wiki? "mail007@verdopple-deinedates.de "

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toeb:

means something like "double your dates"..

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toeb:

so probably yes...

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wagnerrp:

works for me, thanks

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k-man:

on the wiki, why is .25 recommended for macs?

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k-man:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Mac_OS_X . . . lt_Downloads

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uh992k:

hi all

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uh992k:

is there an easy way to migrate a master backend to another computer? I did mysqldump, then sed-ed the hostname and imported it again ...

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uh992k:

btw ... headless-mythbackend running very fine on atom N270 with 2 DVB-T USB sticks :)

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mkrufky:

if anyone is looking for a job in my line of work... now's a good time to PM me

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brewmaster:

anyone know what's going on with atrpms? it's been down for about a week now

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tonsofpcs:

I have two audio-only programs on one of the local ATSC channels. When getting guide data, the guide for these two program streams is populated with the data for the first video-containing (and in-guide) program stream (there is no published guide data for these two... at least, not as TV guide data). Is there a way to have it just break itself into 30m or 60m blocks so I can schedule recordings and not have them take guide na

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tonsofpcs:

(there is no EIT or ETT for these programs either)

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wagnerrp:

tonsofpcs: make a schedules direct account

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wagnerrp:

get guide data from there

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mkrufky:

tonsofpcs: you need to match the data based on program id

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mkrufky:

in ATSC-land, you have to match the program id from the EIT and cross reference the value in the VCT against the PMT

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mkrufky:

(if i recall correctly)

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wagnerrp:

oh, audio-only so there is no guide data on SD?

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mkrufky:

tonsofpcs: you'll find that the only reason your data is hitting the audio-only streams is likely due to a null in the audio's guide

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wagnerrp:

mythtv should be automatically breaking it into 30m chunks

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wagnerrp:

the value is configurable

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mkrufky:

anyway, tonsofpcs, ive seen that exact issue in my own parser ... you have to make sure you're matchign up the right values. here's a hint: in DVB-land, they always have service IDs

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mkrufky:

but in ATSC-land, there are also, always service IDs, but the cross reference index uses the PROGRAM id rather than service ID

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mkrufky:

my hint was confusing,... i meant, in DVB-land they always cross reference based on service ID, but in ATSC land you cant rely on that

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wagnerrp:

but anyway, first solution is the easiest....

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wagnerrp:

just scrap EIT all together and use schedules direct

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tonsofpcs:

wagnerrp: there is no guide data in PSIP or in SD.

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wagnerrp:

as i understood it, you wanted to record the normal channels, for which there was guide data

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wagnerrp:

but when using EIT, for some reason it bled over into the audio-only channels, and you were recording the wrong channels

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wagnerrp:

correct?

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tonsofpcs:

wagnerrp: no. I have EIT turned off because EIT breaks everything.

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wagnerrp:

then how would the wrong guide data get on the audio-only channels?

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tonsofpcs:

The audio-only channels show the guide data from the '.1' program stream (ID #3)

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wagnerrp:

just go into the channel editor, and make sure the xmltv id is blanked

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tonsofpcs:

the channel editor in mythtv-setup ?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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wagnerrp:

with no xmltv id, those channels will not get any guide data

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tonsofpcs:

let me see if I can get to it from here.... (mac mini, X forwarding is finnicky.)

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tonsofpcs:

alternatively, I'm seeing about getting the guide data in a machine-readable format from the source but I'm not sure what I'd have to do to it to make it into valid guide data for myth.

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wagnerrp:

mythtv accepts standard XMLTV format

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wagnerrp:

but you can only have one source per lineup

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tonsofpcs:

welll, maybe I can get the SD folks to take it then

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wagnerrp:

s/lineup/video source/

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tonsofpcs:

although I'm not sure if it really should be there for everyone...

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wagnerrp:

SD just passes on whatever data they get from tribune, and tribune negotiates with all these individual broadcasters for guide data

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wagnerrp:

tell SD, they'll push it up the line to tribune, and tribune might be able to get it

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tonsofpcs:

right, but the person who hands off the data to tribune wouldn't have this data and the tribune folks wouldn't want it. It's not in PSIP (or it is and is marked as hidden) and isn't a TV channel.

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wagnerrp:

it is on broadcast television, correct?

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wagnerrp:

not a cable feed?

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tonsofpcs:

yes.

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wagnerrp:

the station has to know what they're broadcasting

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wagnerrp:

they're just being too lazy to push that data into the broadcast

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** tonsofpcs goes to check the PSIP encoder to see exactly how it is flagged **

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wagnerrp:

i mean even if it's just some syndicated music feed they're repeating, they have to have a schedule of what is on when

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tonsofpcs:

it is in PSIP, marked as hidden.

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tonsofpcs:

wagnerrp: yes, but why would guide data be provided for a channel that is hidden?

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wagnerrp:

why would they broadcast it as hidden?

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wagnerrp:

is it not actually in use?

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tonsofpcs:

wagnerrp: PM?

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wagnerrp:

huh?

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tonsofpcs:

(why shouldn't matter for this instance, but I'd like to share in private)

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wagnerrp:

nah, not that curious

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tonsofpcs:

anyway, digging into the channel editor now

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wagnerrp:

mythfilldatabase will attempt to align any channels with no xmltvid with your lineup automatically

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wagnerrp:

but with no callsign or VCT number, it should not be able to

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tonsofpcs:

so what am I changing in the channel? Video Source to be [Not Selected] ?

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wagnerrp:

channels must have a video source, they are stored against a video source

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wagnerrp:

just blank the xmltvid

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wagnerrp:

and make sure you're running mythfilldatabase with --dd-grab-all

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tonsofpcs:

done. thank you :)

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TandyUK:

Nov 30 17:01:59 myth-bedroom mythbackend[2616]: W TVRecEvent dvbchannel.cpp:381 (CheckOptions) DVBChan(7:/dev/dvb/adapter3/frontend0): Selected fec_inner parameter unsupported by this driver.

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TandyUK:

any ideas?

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TandyUK:

its a satix dvb-s2 dual port card

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tonsofpcs:

what FEC are you trying?

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TandyUK:

adapter0/1 is a wintv nova-t 500, adapter2/3 is the satelite

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TandyUK:

unless udev got it wrong again ofc...

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TandyUK:

not sure tbh, how would i see that

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tonsofpcs:

what channel are you trying to get and how?

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TandyUK:

cbs reality on a dvb-s card

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tonsofpcs:

from what satellite, what channel, etc?

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TandyUK:

no idea, how do i see that in the logs?

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TandyUK:

this is a 3 year old system

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tonsofpcs:

what is plugged into the card?

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TandyUK:

a satelite dish lol

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tonsofpcs:

where is the dish pointed?

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stuartm:

Astra 2

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TandyUK:

its pointing at the astra cluster

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TandyUK:

in the uk

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** tonsofpcs can't hit Astra 2 from here :( **

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tonsofpcs:

11344 (H) 27500 2/3 ... hmmm...

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TandyUK:

how would i try tuning the card manually?

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stuartm:

not without a boat and 3000 mile trip, it's a spot beam so you can't even hit it outside the country

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tonsofpcs:

stuartm: it's east of the horizon anyway.

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tonsofpcs:

I think I can get to ~7W if I try real hard.

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TandyUK:

so any suggestions?

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tonsofpcs:

TandyUK: 11344 MHz Horizontal 27.500 Msps FEC 2/3 will get you to the right TS. I'm not sure how you configure DVB-S(2) in Myth so I can't tell you where to check next

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tonsofpcs:

I imagine it is in channel definitions

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tonsofpcs:

my gut feel is that somehow your FEC is set wrong or the wrong parameter is being sent...

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tonsofpcs:

is this a sudden change in the system or did something change outside the system that is causing you to look at this?

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TandyUK:

lol yeah

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TandyUK:

hdd died

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stuartm:

TandyUK: start by double checking that the cards haven't swapped adapters, that's the most likely since a FEC of 2/3 should be supported by any DVB-S card

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tonsofpcs:

ah, so it's a new "system" with existing parts? :)

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TandyUK:

so this is a fresh mythbuntu install with its backup restored

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tonsofpcs:

stuartm: wouldn't it be accepted by a DVB-T card too

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tonsofpcs:

?

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TandyUK:

udev shows the adapter as using the ngene driver, which is coreect

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stuartm:

tonsofpcs: yes, but I'm assuming that the actual error lies elsewhere and this is just symptomatic

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tonsofpcs:

stuartm: possibly. It could be it saying "I won't take FEC 2/3 for a signal at that bizzare frequency" I suppose

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tonsofpcs:

I wonder... do you need to set LNB LO settings somewhere?

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TandyUK:

[ 16.941144] DVB: registering new adapter (Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T)

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TandyUK:

[ 17.053968] DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (DiBcom 3000MC/P)...

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TandyUK:

[ 17.308477] DVB: registering new adapter (nGene)

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TandyUK:

[ 17.308480] DVB: registering adapter 2 frontend 0 (STV090x Multistandard)...

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TandyUK:

[ 17.349853] DVB: registering new adapter (nGene)

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TandyUK:

[ 17.349856] DVB: registering adapter 3 frontend 0 (STV090x Multistandard)...

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TandyUK:

[ 17.547665] DVB: registering new adapter (Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T)

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TandyUK:

[ 17.553810] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (DiBcom 3000MC/P)...

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TandyUK:

which is al good

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tonsofpcs:

erm... the error was on adapter3

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tonsofpcs:

hmm...

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TandyUK:

y

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TandyUK:

3rd adapter detected

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tonsofpcs:

can you get anything with that adapter (either as 2 or 3?)?

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stuartm:

ok, next up, go through mythtv-setup, checking that everything looks OK – check the LNB and card types are correct

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stuartm:

TandyUK: same version of mythbuntu as before? No change in kernel?

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tonsofpcs:

I just set up MythTV on a system that had it once before and it was pulling old configs making it go haywire, I just went to setup and removed everything and started from scratch and it works fine, but I'm just doing simple ATSC with 4 tuners and 5 sterams allowed from each

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TandyUK:

hmm all looks fine in setup but

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TandyUK:

setup then moans /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/.test isnt writable

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TandyUK:

however on the backend if i "su – mythtv", cd to the dir i can create and delete files fine

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TandyUK:

hmm its permissions

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TandyUK:

mythtv-setup is not running as mythtv

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TandyUK:

im sorely tempted to just chmod 777 and forget about it although i know how bad that is lol

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wagnerrp:

well it's bad administrative practice... but it's really only bad if people are going to be going around deleting your files

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TandyUK:

more just a temp fix to get the root problem tbh

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TandyUK:

thatis why the dvb-s2 card wont tune

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TandyUK:

why cant mythtv save all important stuff in sensible places

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TandyUK:

i lost / completely

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TandyUK:

/var/lib/mythtv was backed up

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TandyUK:

but it seems so many vital files were in /home/myuser/.mythtv/

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TandyUK:

and not backed up :(

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wagnerrp:

your home directory is not a sensible place?

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wagnerrp:

most applications store their stuff there, unless forced elsewhere by the packager

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TandyUK:

ok next question in the icon serch bit in mythtv-setup

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TandyUK:

how do i exclude stuff

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TandyUK:

im searching for an icon for RT

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TandyUK:

but all i get is "art" and "arte" and the list isnt long enough to get past C

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TandyUK:

if i delete all channels from mythtv and basically start from scratch

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TandyUK:

what will happen to all y previously recorded stuff?

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theteju:

Hello guys,,

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theteju:

I am newbiee has some hardware questions to build mythtv backend

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wagnerrp:

shoot

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theteju:

should the backend machine have two Network card?

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wagnerrp:

for what purpose?

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theteju:

to connect internet and support frontend inside the network?

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wagnerrp:

you mean to function as the router/gateway for your network?

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wagnerrp:

you could, but routing is a task completely independent from mythtv

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theteju:

NO. assuming the backend machine will stay in closet

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theteju:

how it will communicate with frontend ? and how does it connect to internet?

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theteju:

or does it do both job from one network card only?

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theteju:

Second question,

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wagnerrp:

the same way any other computer communicates on both your network and internet

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wagnerrp:

you connected it to the network, and your router/gateway routes packets intended for the internet to the internet

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theteju:

I already have a storage hard drive , with xfs file system in which I have all my media. will the system take it automatically?

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wagnerrp:

you can access existing video through the Video Library

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wagnerrp:

but the recordings screen is restricted to content mythtv itself records

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theteju:

i see.

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theteju:

how should I mount the second hard drive once the system installed?

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wagnerrp:

usually through fstab

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wagnerrp:

i don't really understand what you're asking

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theteju:

ok

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theteju:

I am going to install the system on a hard drive that is 80 gb. then

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theteju:

i am going to add my media drive that is formatted in xfs to the system

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theteju:

and try to ask mythtv use it for recording purpose later on.

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wagnerrp:

mount it where ever you want, and point mythtv at a subdirectory on it

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theteju:

ok

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theteju:

wagnerrp : thanks

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wagnerrp:

usually somewhere in /srv/, /mnt/, or ${HOME}/ is considered most appropriate

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wagnerrp:

note that you DO want to record to a subdirectory on any mount, and not the mount itself

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wagnerrp:

lest you end up recording to the filesystem beneath it should the disk fail to mount for whatever reason

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wagnerrp:

you don't want mythtv to fill up your root filesystem with recordings

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theteju:

yes, thats the goal.

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theteju:

and could not find steps to follow

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wagnerrp:

if you give mythtv multiple drives to record to, it will load balance between the available storage paths

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wagnerrp:

and ignore any defined paths that do not exist, or it does not have permissions to

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theteju:

ok

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theteju:

so system decides on its own

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wagnerrp:

you give it a list of paths it can use to store recordings, it decides where within there it wants to put them

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wagnerrp:

note that also means you are free to move those recordings anywhere between those paths at will, and mythtv will find it to use it

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wagnerrp:

same with the video library... you can have multiple paths defined for videos, and mythtv will merge their directory structures when viewing them

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theteju:

lastly, should I go with mythtv or mythubuntu ?

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wagnerrp:

mythbuntu is mythtv

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wagnerrp:

it's just mythtv with some wrapper scripts and utilities

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theteju:

ok.

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wagnerrp:

if you use the official packages on any *buntu system, you're getting mythbuntu

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theteju:

it does not say what version of mythtv ships in Mythbuntu

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wagnerrp:

either 0.25 or 0.26, not sure which one

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wagnerrp:

but it doesn't matter, since you can update to the newest release without issue

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theteju:

ok

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tgm4883:

theteju, where were you looking?

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justinh:

hmm. so seems if you enable mod_deflate for only one MIME type, you get the files compressed whether the client asks for them that way or not. Except on one server with the same version of wget as the other 11. Yay

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k-man:

i enabled the mythmediacenter theme on my mac, and its gone into swedish or something

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k-man:

i can't wort out how to switch the language

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justinh:

restart mythfrontend with the --reset option :-)

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k-man:

justinh, will do :)

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justinh:

or if you can find out what the language setting is run with the -O settingname=value

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** justinh wonders if the network remote interface is always in English or not... **

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k-man:

the theme in question was myth media stream (i typed the wrong name before)

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justinh:

I tried that one. lasted all of about 2 minutes. text is way too small throughout

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Captain_Murdoch:

justinh, yeah, network control interface is untranslated since it contains commands and output from those commands that is parsed by apps that use the interface.

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stuartm:

it's probably fair to say that it's an API not a UI

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stuartm:

?

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natanojl:

k-man: I can probably help you if it really is Swedish :)

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Captain_Murdoch:

stuartm, yeah. I'd agree. that's what it was written as was an API, long before the HTTP interface to the frontend.

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Captain_Murdoch:

a human-usable API.

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Captain_Murdoch:

HIAPI

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k-man:

natanojl, ah thanks

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stuartm:

k-man: changing the theme shouldn't change the language ... I can see it happening accidentally if the theme setting was in the same place as the language setting, but since the theme chooser was added that's no longer the case

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stuartm:

k-man: mythfrontend --prompt will allow changing the language, unfortunately it will also ask you to fill out your database information again

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natanojl:

k-man: but I guess you used --reset

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k-man:

stuartm, first time i did it, it changed to swedish (i think), then i did a --reset and switched to it again, this time i switched the menu theme first to the myth media stream menu theme, then changed the theme and there was no issue with language

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k-man:

natanojl, yeah, i did, and all is good now

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natanojl:

great

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k-man:

afaict, the myth media streme does not show which recording group you are viewing

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k-man:

i use recording groups to seperate kids shows from the rest

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stuartm:

ah, well the menu theme setting is in the same sub-section of the settings, so it's possible that you occidentally changed it when clicking through?

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k-man:

stuartm, the first time? no, it was in english, i selected Myth Media Stream and then once it had refreshed, it was in swedish

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k-man:

so in myth center stream theme, when i go to the configuration page, it shows all the field labels as black writing on a black background

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k-man:

should I report that as a bug?

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