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Tuesday, November 20th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
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[01:12:09] jr3us: I'm back! when I used mythlink to create a file named Title – Episode Name.mpg, and moved it to the videos directory, I went into videos, and scanned for new videos. It found the file above, and I was able to play it in the Videos section of mythtv.
[01:12:46] jr3us: However, when I made it get metadata for the episode, it only went to tmdb to get info for it, and found nothing.
[01:13:17] jr3us: How do I get it to use ttvdb to check for metadata for the episode?
[01:13:35] jr3us: when it is in the Videos section
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[02:12:04] jr3us: I'm guessing I have the wrong naming convention for the episodes I moved in to the videos directory?
[02:12:48] jr3us: If so, anyone know the right naming convention when moving TV to the videos directory?
[02:14:12] [R]: the wiki page has all the formats it understands
[02:23:00] jr3us: ok. When I used mythlink.pl to create the name of the files as Title – Episode name.mpg, I found that mythlink.pl doesn't give access to the season episode information that would be needed to create a filename that would be acceptable. I understand that the mythvidexport.py DOES have access to the season/episode info, however mythvidexport is not 'up to snuff' for anything newer than .24. Any ideas?
[02:26:31] wagnerrp: https://github.com/wagnerrp/mythtv-scripts/bl . . . videxport.py
[02:28:44] jr3us: wagnerrp: cool, thanks! I'll try that instead of the mythlink.pl.
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[02:29:59] jr3us: wagnerrrp: when i do the down grade to back to .25, will the metadata look up recognize that the newly named files in videos will indeed be from a TV series, and look them up on ttvdb?
[02:30:49] wagnerrp: the default format used by that script for television shows is compatible with the formats recognized by the video library
[02:31:49] jr3us: cool. thanks!
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[03:53:20] shiggity: Hello. I'm having an issue, and though this is someone else's log, here's a log of the issue nonetheless: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /321164.html
[03:53:42] shiggity: I'm running Funtoo Linux in a VM
[03:53:57] shiggity: I have to head out to work.... more details when I get back.
[03:53:57] ** [R] summons wagnerrp **
[03:53:59] shiggity: or msg me
[03:54:02] wagnerrp: heh
[03:54:15] [R]: wagnerrp: i know how much you love VMs
[03:54:23] wagnerrp: why are you using a VM?
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[03:55:13] shiggity: long story wagnerrp , but I gotta jet to work
[03:55:17] shiggity: just wanted to lay that on ya
[03:55:17] shiggity: bbl
[03:55:22] [R]: rofl
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[07:07:58] prologic: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . n=wish_lists
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[07:22:04] prologic: Anyone care to comment on the above? I might build this as a Frontend-only device
[07:23:33] wagnerrp: it's only a single core CPU
[07:24:05] wagnerrp: and the graphics suck
[07:24:44] wagnerrp: and do you need a BDR and SSD on a dedicated frontend?
[07:26:40] prologic: wait
[07:26:43] prologic: it's a dual core cpu
[07:26:52] wagnerrp: well, no... not really
[07:27:03] prologic: and that GPU (Radeon) has to be better than the equivilent Core i3 in the same form factor
[07:27:18] wagnerrp: it all comes down to drivers
[07:27:47] prologic: ofc
[07:27:58] wagnerrp: and the linux graphics drivers for ATI/AMD stuff has had a long track record of being poor to awful
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[07:28:30] wagnerrp: the Trinity cores are more of the bulldozer stuff
[07:28:44] wagnerrp: which means it is composed of several modules
[07:29:04] wagnerrp: each module containing an instruction decode/dispatch, a FPU, a SIMD unit, and two integer units
[07:29:16] prologic: do you have recommendations for better mobo/cpu combo for the same price bracket?
[07:29:24] wagnerrp: according to their sales claims, each integer unit counts as a core
[07:29:25] prologic: or will this be "good enough" if the driver support is there
[07:29:43] wagnerrp: for broadcast stuff, it will be plenty enough CPU
[07:30:02] wagnerrp: for something like bluray, you might be lacking with only the one FPU
[07:30:48] wagnerrp: if you want integrated graphics, go intel
[07:31:06] prologic: even if it's the Intel Graphics HD 2500?
[07:31:09] wagnerrp: nvidia is preferred over the lot, but it's typically only available discrete
[07:31:14] prologic: That's the other alternative
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[07:31:28] wagnerrp: they should have plenty of power for opengl rendering
[07:31:40] wagnerrp: since that really doesn't take much
[07:31:40] prologic: at what?
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[07:37:33] wagnerrp: ?
[07:39:18] prologic: hmm
[07:39:38] prologic: going Intel is an added ~$80
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[07:40:07] prologic: apparently there are the open source ati drives and proprietary drivers fglx
[07:40:35] prologic: haven't found whether the Radeon 7540D is supported in either yet though (presumably it is in fglx)
[07:42:00] wagnerrp: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishD . . . ber=21575526
[07:42:10] wagnerrp: this is one i've just built and is sitting in my living room
[07:43:58] prologic: hmm wow
[07:43:59] prologic: nice
[07:44:03] prologic: frontend only obviously
[07:44:08] prologic: you network boot it?
[07:44:35] wagnerrp: yes, ive got a base image that gets cloned for each frontend, along with a simple overlay of configs
[07:44:47] wagnerrp: im still working out some kinks with LIRC
[07:44:55] wagnerrp: havent actually tested playback yet
[07:44:58] prologic: I was going to ask...
[07:45:04] wagnerrp: only got it working earlier tonight
[07:45:05] prologic: what IR receiver (if any) do you use on that?
[07:45:12] wagnerrp: existing MCEUSB unit
[07:45:19] wagnerrp: i bought it all about two weeks ago
[07:45:20] prologic: k
[07:45:25] prologic: hmm
[07:45:28] prologic: keep us posted? :)
[07:45:41] wagnerrp: but the board only supports that processor with an updated bios
[07:45:51] wagnerrp: the bios came out in may, but newegg apparently had old stock
[07:46:05] wagnerrp: had to get a replacement ROM sent out from the manufacturer before the thing would PSOT
[07:46:07] wagnerrp: POST
[07:46:47] prologic: hmm
[07:46:50] prologic: according to Intel's ark
[07:46:53] prologic: Intel HD Graphics
[07:46:58] prologic: no model no. after it :)
[07:48:01] wagnerrp: it's a partially disabled 2500
[07:48:15] prologic: ahh ok
[07:48:22] wagnerrp: no encoders or decoderrsr, no 3D, no miracast
[07:48:48] prologic: I suppose I could like with the extra $80 added cost in favor of Intel
[07:48:56] prologic: if it really is better than AMD's Readeon GUPs
[07:49:10] prologic: at least the drivers are in the stock kernel
[07:49:13] wagnerrp: radeons are still heads above any intel gear
[07:49:20] wagnerrp: it's just an issue of drivers
[07:49:38] prologic: hmm
[07:49:42] wagnerrp: and im not sure why it would be $80 more
[07:49:42] prologic: now you have my very confused :)
[07:49:50] prologic: well here in AU it is
[07:49:58] prologic: the AMD stuff I quoted earlier is cheaper than Intel
[07:49:59] wagnerrp: intel graphics suck, always have
[07:50:04] wagnerrp: but at least they work decently in linux
[07:50:33] prologic: the proprietary drivers for Radeon should work I'd think
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[07:50:43] prologic: be disappoinated if they didn't update their own drivers
[07:50:59] wagnerrp: "should" being the appropriate word
[07:51:28] prologic: ofc
[07:52:11] prologic: hmm
[07:52:16] prologic: so AMD or Intel
[07:52:20] prologic: that is the question :)
[07:52:40] wagnerrp: well... integrated or discrete, that's the more correct question
[07:52:44] prologic: $415 or $502
[07:52:50] wagnerrp: if you want integrated graphics, go intel
[07:53:10] prologic: yeah I'd obviously go discrete if only it didn't add an extra $100–200
[07:53:12] prologic: for gaming – sure
[07:53:32] wagnerrp: you can pick up a decent card for ~$40
[07:53:37] prologic: "intel" – but only for the better linux driver support right?
[07:54:19] wagnerrp: nvidia is still the ideal graphics provider for mythtv on linux
[07:54:40] wagnerrp: but the only way you're going to get integrated nvidia graphics is through a specialty board with integrated mobile graphics
[07:54:44] wagnerrp: and those aren't cheap
[07:55:20] prologic: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . cts_id=20434
[07:55:27] prologic: so something like that should suit?
[07:55:38] prologic: and probably do all kinds of crazy resolutions
[07:55:56] wagnerrp: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . cts_id=21281
[07:56:01] wagnerrp: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . cts_id=22030
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[07:56:38] wagnerrp: you actually come out cheaper
[07:57:04] prologic: with the nvidia card above?
[07:57:15] wagnerrp: if you wanted to go integrated
[07:57:28] wagnerrp: if you're going discrete, board and CPU really don't matter
[07:57:36] wagnerrp: although i would suggest a more powerful CPU
[07:58:43] prologic: hmm
[07:58:43] prologic: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . cts_id=20434
[07:58:46] prologic: with this card
[07:58:48] prologic: only one problem
[07:58:50] prologic: power requirements
[07:59:00] prologic: I don't think the Antec case and integrated power supply will handle this
[07:59:03] wagnerrp: to be honest, i would go for that X2 270 over one of the fusion chips
[07:59:06] prologic: plus the cpu and board and ssd
[07:59:11] wagnerrp: only $53
[08:00:29] prologic: amd x2 270 plus an nvidia gpu
[08:00:45] wagnerrp: if you don't mind a GPU, that's what i would go with
[08:01:07] prologic: I'm worried about the power requirements still
[08:01:18] prologic: the Antec case only has a 350W power supply
[08:01:18] wagnerrp: it's a dedicated frontend
[08:01:21] wagnerrp: turn it off when not in use
[08:01:28] prologic: no I mean
[08:01:29] wagnerrp: and 350W is overkill
[08:01:34] prologic: worried the power supply won't supply enough power
[08:01:46] wagnerrp: you're not going to exceed 150W no matter what you stuff in that case
[08:02:04] prologic: even if nVidia claim their card has a 300W power requirement? :)
[08:02:18] wagnerrp: what the hell card did you pick?
[08:02:23] prologic: I guess that would be _ALL_ shaders going max out
[08:02:40] wagnerrp: you shouldn't bother with anything that does more than 50W or so
[08:02:47] prologic: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . cts_id=20434
[08:02:59] prologic: hmm :)
[08:03:03] prologic: guess I picked the wrong card
[08:03:59] wagnerrp: TDP on that card is 29W
[08:04:57] prologic: hmm
[08:05:01] prologic: weird
[08:05:08] prologic: why say 300W power requirements at all
[08:05:27] wagnerrp: what says 300W requirement?
[08:06:03] wagnerrp: oh, at the bottom
[08:06:13] wagnerrp: they're recommending you have at least a 300W power supply
[08:06:17] wagnerrp: for the whole system
[08:06:32] wagnerrp: and that's way overkill
[08:10:29] prologic: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page . . . n=wish_lists
[08:10:37] prologic: Have to double check the RAM
[08:10:39] prologic: but there you go
[08:11:05] wagnerrp: looks good, assuming the board takes that processor and memory
[08:11:18] wagnerrp: although personally, i would still drop the SSD and BDR
[08:12:01] prologic: I -could-
[08:12:12] prologic: but I'm not really setup at home here to do network booting (decently)
[08:12:30] prologic: and I do want the BD Combo drive for convenience (this will replace the living room frontend)
[08:13:02] prologic: the one I currently have that does both backend/frontend (Intel based with HVR2200) I'll put out the back and virtualize the backend with openvz
[08:13:07] prologic: (or I'll try)
[08:13:13] wagnerrp: eeeeewwww
[08:13:14] prologic: I've read good results with proxmox ve
[08:13:22] prologic: eeww?
[08:13:30] wagnerrp: you said virtual machine
[08:13:40] prologic: openvz virtuailzation
[08:13:45] prologic: containers
[08:13:53] wagnerrp: oh, right... just isolation
[08:13:54] wagnerrp: nevermind
[08:13:57] wagnerrp: carry on
[08:13:59] prologic: yes :)
[08:14:00] prologic: haha
[08:14:34] wagnerrp: that's not virtualized, since it's not running on a virtual machine instance
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[08:14:40] wagnerrp: it's just isolated memory/disk space
[08:14:47] prologic: ofc :)
[08:14:55] prologic: easier backend upgrading without breaking it entirely
[08:14:59] prologic: vzdump the image, upgrade
[08:15:04] prologic: if it breaks, restore
[08:15:12] wagnerrp: right, i do the same thing with jails and zfs on freebsd
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[08:15:21] prologic: *nods*
[08:15:35] prologic: ok well I'll stick with this spec then
[08:15:44] prologic: slightly more overkill than what I first started out with
[08:15:49] prologic: and only an extra $20
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[08:16:20] prologic: no wait
[08:16:23] prologic: extra $9
[08:17:09] wagnerrp: the older, cheaper CPU is actually considerably more capable on any multithreaded task
[08:17:44] wagnerrp: and due to branch prediction failures, will likely end up being faster on any non-linear single threaded task
[08:18:28] prologic: eg: transcoding
[08:18:54] prologic: except that would occur on the backend anyway
[08:18:55] wagnerrp: it is a frontend, but you could offload stuff to it if you wished
[08:19:00] prologic: once I separate my devices out
[08:19:11] wagnerrp: although any HLS stuff only operates on the master backend at current
[08:19:21] prologic: really with the nvidia gpu the cpu is rather useless
[08:19:24] prologic: except to boot an os :)
[08:19:29] wagnerrp: not at all
[08:19:30] prologic: and run Xorg and mythfrontend
[08:19:42] wagnerrp: even with VDPAU graphics on my other systems, i still do CPU decoding
[08:19:59] prologic: for what content?
[08:20:07] wagnerrp: any
[08:20:11] prologic: ahh k
[08:20:16] prologic: so CPU still plays _some_ role
[08:20:19] wagnerrp: mostly ATSC, some bluray and hddvd
[08:20:28] prologic: VDPAU + nVidia on Myth Frontend still the norm?
[08:20:40] wagnerrp: even though i have VDPAU as an option
[08:20:48] wagnerrp: i still prefer a system that doesn't require it
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[09:00:36] prologic: hmm
[09:00:39] prologic: displays
[09:00:42] prologic: LED or LCD?
[09:00:53] prologic: Can you even get a "dumb" display?
[09:01:01] prologic: I'm sick of seeing all this 3D and Smart TV displays
[09:01:17] prologic: some even have builtin Wifi and Samsung Apps (for example)
[09:01:17] prologic: wt
[09:04:29] prologic: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/LN60C630K1FXZA
[09:12:36] ServerSage: prologic: Techincally, LED is a type of LCD, despite people using them incorrectly. With that said, my experience has been LED gives a brighter, clearer picture and they are usually far thinner and lighter.
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[10:12:10] prologic: cool
[10:12:12] prologic: thanks :)
[10:12:25] prologic: I'm just looking for something to replace my aging 60" Plasma
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[12:45:50] shiggity: Okay: wagnerrp the reason why I'm running Funtoo Linux with MythTV 0.25 in a VM is because I prefer to run Mac OS X as my main OS and I'd rather not have to reboot each time I want to do one thing or another.
[12:48:07] shiggity: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /321164.html basically is the issue I'm having, though it might also have to do with channel settings as well.. not sure.
[12:49:06] shiggity: I'd just run the entire MythTV suite (frontend/backend) on OS X, but I've got my data drive EXT4 formatted, and I'd rather not reformat it right now
[12:49:20] shiggity: wagnerrp or anyone else is welcome to comment
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[13:13:58] loganrun: what the heck, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:04:04.0-event-ir keeps changing on boot, I thought the hole point of this device was that it would not keep changing names like event6 etc., this is insane
[13:14:06] loganrun: IR is always screwed up
[13:14:08] shiggity: wagnerrp et al: here's my issue, and as I looked closer it's indeed really close to that mailing list post: http://pastebin.com/PytZiXLW
[13:15:16] shiggity: I've decided to give in and just transcode to mp4 all of my recordings and just format that drive to HFS+, unless something can be worked out with my issue.
[13:15:21] loganrun: is there a way to update my hardware.conf file before lirc starts to run?
[13:15:43] loganrun: suppose I could write a script to keep editing this file every boot if I could figure out where to intervene
[13:17:38] loganrun: where is the script that launches lircd
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[14:31:51] operat0r: I looked everywhere to get 6544 open remotly I can connect localy 127.0.0.1:6544 only thing I found was sql conf my.conf but that is just for MySQL so I can't seem to find backend conf to allow 0.0.0.0
[14:32:26] operat0r: I know at leas one issue is its listening on locahost no 0.0.0.0
[14:37:17] jams: operat0r, the backend ip is probably set to 127.0.0.1 in mythtv-setup
[14:38:18] jams: or the ip wasn't available when the backend was started
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[15:07:55] operat0r: I looked everywhere to get 6544 open remotly I can connect localy 127.0.0.1:6544 only thing I found was sql conf my.conf but that is just for MySQL so I can't seem to find backend conf to allow 0.0.0.0
[15:08:35] jams: operat0r, ^^
[15:08:53] jams: either that or you have a firewall in the way
[15:08:55] operat0r: I googled for like 30min
[15:08:56] wagnerrp: mythtv won't listen on 0.0.0.0
[15:08:58] operat0r: nope
[15:09:04] wagnerrp: it will only listen on specific IP addresses
[15:09:04] operat0r: no firewalls ;)
[15:09:17] operat0r: it works localy if I tunnel over ssh
[15:09:17] wagnerrp: specifically, the IP address you told it to listen to in mythtv-setup
[15:09:57] operat0r: I set the ip to 0.0.0.0 restarted and still listens on 127.0.0.1
[15:10:02] operat0r: in myth-setup
[15:10:15] wagnerrp: now just think about that for a second....
[15:10:41] wagnerrp: can you think of a reason mythtv might be unhappy when you tell it the location of your backend is 0.0.0.0?
[15:12:02] wagnerrp: shiggity: why not just run your backend directly on OSX?
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[15:12:43] operat0r: wagnerrp: 'most' daeamons accept 0.0.0.0 as a listen address dating back to at least 10 years ago ;)
[15:13:13] operat0r: the reason this metod is preferd it allows the ip to change of the mythtv host but not have to reconfigure anything
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[15:13:33] GlemSom: I've just upgraded to 0.26-fixes. mythbackend is tarted like. "/usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --pidfile /etc/conf.d/mythtv/mythbackend.pid --logpath /var/log/mythtv/ --verbose general". Though, I see nothing in my log at all... What could be wrong here ?
[15:13:46] wagnerrp: the IP of your backend CANNOT CHANGE, so your argument is invalid
[15:14:24] wagnerrp: that setting is the address at which frontends, slave backends, mythweb, and anything else will attempt to connect to the backend at
[15:14:39] wagnerrp: if your IP address changes, that setting is now invalid, and nothing will work
[15:14:56] wagnerrp: so why bother listening on an IP address nothing knows to use?
[15:15:30] wagnerrp: and i'm not sure where this "ten years" comment came from
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[15:15:59] wagnerrp: i'm not aware of any mainstream server daemon that cannot be limited to a certain IP or list of IP addresses
[15:16:10] wagnerrp: it's a pretty important feature when talking about multi-homed machines
[15:18:03] operat0r: kk so it looks like 192.168.1.151:6543 is happy but that is not really want I wanted ..as I still have 127.0.0.1:6544
[15:18:21] wagnerrp: mythtv always listens on localhost
[15:19:07] operat0r: had to kill -9
[15:19:12] operat0r: 192.168.1.151:6544
[15:19:25] operat0r: BYW the API is fukin badass
[15:23:02] wagnerrp: please watch your language
[15:27:14] operat0r: thanks. Looks like its happy mythtranscode: 3% Completed @ 80.8648 fps. but my android is not working with MythtvGO with VLC/BS player or embded video player
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[15:28:00] operat0r: VLC for android is good stuff .. still in dev
[15:28:06] wizbit: is McAfee any good at killing viruses?
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[15:28:39] operat0r: wizbit: not really
[15:28:56] operat0r: wizbit: is the computer currently infected with something ?
[15:29:04] wizbit: nope
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[15:29:43] operat0r: then remove all AV or security software and use LUA or nomal user access (IE dont run as administrator ) if you REALLY must .. install something like panda cloud
[15:30:25] operat0r: I do pentesting for a living and AV is pointless on enduser systems
[15:34:56] operat0r: "hey looks like you got a virus ! can't do anythign about but I can block people and software from helping you fix it so ill just do that" – AV
[15:36:05] xavierh: wargnerrp: you argument is not valid, being able to listen to 0.0.0.0 does not mean that you cannot also restrict it to a specific ip if you wanted too
[15:41:00] xavierh: wagnerrp: ^^^ (sorry for the spelling)
[15:42:46] wagnerrp: wizbit: no, but it's good at killing neighbors
[15:43:21] wagnerrp: xavierh: if mythtv will only attempt to connect at that address, there is no reason to have it listen to any other address
[15:43:44] wagnerrp: the frontend will listen on any available address if none has been defined on that host
[15:43:52] wagnerrp: but the backend requires you tell it where it is
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[15:51:14] xavierh: wagnerrp: Ok,tell me if I understand right, this Ip is broadcast to the network so the frontend know how to connect back to the server?
[15:52:07] wagnerrp: no, the IP address is stored in the database, and the frontend looks in the database to find out where the backend is
[15:52:48] xavierh: they do not use zeroconf ?
[15:57:16] wagnerrp: not at current, no
[15:57:38] wagnerrp: they can use UPNP to perform the initial detection
[15:57:46] wagnerrp: but it is not relied on every time you start the frontend
[15:58:22] xavierh: wagnerrp: ok, thanks to clarified
[15:58:57] xavierh: wagnerrp: Any technical reason why not ?
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[15:59:27] wagnerrp: legacy reasons
[15:59:41] wagnerrp: that's just the way it was written nearly a decade ago
[16:01:30] xavierh: wagnerrp: Just asking, as I understand the pov of operat0r, it is one more thing to configure... (no critics here)
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[16:02:10] wagnerrp: the plan is to replace all of that with autodetection, and store the last known address of the master in the config.xml
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[16:02:32] crot: hey all
[16:02:45] crot: question for you that is kicking my butt
[16:03:20] crot: when I click on watch TV myth asks me if I really want to exit has anyone seen that?
[16:03:43] wagnerrp: sounds like you have your buttons improperly mapped
[16:03:56] wagnerrp: and are clicking escape
[16:04:26] wagnerrp: i can't say i've ever heard of that behavior before
[16:04:30] neufeld_AFK: function keys sometimes have an ESC prefix in some configurations
[16:04:56] crot: I am using a mouse in the gui to click watch tv
[16:05:11] crot: no clicking on a remote.
[16:05:36] wagnerrp: don't know about that one, mythtv doesn't really work well with a mouse
[16:06:56] crot: http://pastebin.com/bup1pjwQ
[16:07:09] crot: there is a pastebin of the backendlog
[16:07:34] neufeld_AFK: crot: your problem would be in the front end, not the backend
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[16:07:56] crot: okay let me tail the front end
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[16:10:39] crot: http://pastebin.com/1awmaqKH
[16:10:49] crot: there is frontend log
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[16:12:11] crot: sorry crappy copy and paste included part of the backend when i copie all to clipboard from putty
[16:12:25] crot: front end is towards bottom of dump
[16:13:52] crot: starts at line 55
[16:15:22] neufeld: not surprisingly, it doesn't log every key press and button click. I don't think you'll get much help from the logs, you'll have to figure out what it is in your X session that's sending the exit request.
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[16:16:15] crot: okay
[16:18:31] ThisOneGuy: Can anyone help me with a recording that won't play? It works on my upstairs machine but not the downstairs one: http://pastebin.com/R5xd3724
[16:21:13] wagnerrp: is it possible the machine playback works on is not using VDPAU?
[16:23:27] ThisOneGuy: wagnerrp: yes it is
[16:28:48] ThisOneGuy: wagnerrp: Did I misconfigure something? Is it a bug in VDPAU? Do I have any options?
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[16:45:28] operat0r: asdf
[16:45:49] operat0r: ThisOneGuy: you could just transcode that one and put it in videos ...
[16:46:09] operat0r: if it keeps happing then toubble shoot
[16:46:25] operat0r: no point in going off the deep end for one bad apple
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[16:51:00] ThisOneGuy: operat0r – unfortunately it's not just that one – it seems to happen on occassion
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[17:23:26] crot: okay exit issue is fixed however when i select watch tv it says please wait and goes away nothing else happans
[17:23:46] wagnerrp: sounds like your backend is not configured properly
[17:23:58] wagnerrp: you missed a step when defining inputs and channels
[17:24:08] crot: okay let me check
[17:24:10] wagnerrp: or you didn't define anywhere to record to
[17:24:14] wagnerrp: check your backend logs for errors
[17:24:19] crot: will do thanks
[17:26:34] crot: create live tv ringbuffer faild
[17:26:47] wagnerrp: can you pastebin the full logs?
[17:27:08] crot: yeah
[17:28:58] crot: http://pastebin.com/vEm8sEi9
[17:33:44] wagnerrp: "Group 'LiveTV' wants to use directory '/', but this directory is not writeable.".... whoops, user error
[17:34:48] crot: usually is isnt it :)
[17:35:12] wagnerrp: the LiveTV group does not actually need to be defined
[17:35:18] crot: let me see if I an resolve that real quick
[17:35:20] wagnerrp: if not defined, it falls back to the Default group
[17:35:32] crot: so i can just delete it
[17:35:40] wagnerrp: and if the Default group is not defined, it falls back to some safe location in your user directory
[17:35:51] crot: and verify that default is not hosed aswell
[17:35:54] wagnerrp: you can't delete the whole group, but you can delete the entries within thr group
[17:36:06] crot: k
[17:36:16] wagnerrp: open it up in mythtv-setup, select the bad path, and hit 'd'
[17:36:21] crot: give me a few to fix my screw ups
[17:36:27] crot: thanks a bunch wagnerr
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[17:36:51] wagnerrp: when you closed mythtv-setup, it should have warned that '/' was not writable
[17:37:12] wagnerrp: although that sanity check only works if you are running mythtv-setup as the user that is going to be running mythbackend
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[17:40:18] crot: I honestly dont remember seeing that but I made the mistake in the first place so who can trust me :P
[17:40:43] wagnerrp: you probably added a directory, and then left it blank
[17:40:50] crot: that did the trick your awesome wagnerrp
[17:40:55] wagnerrp: mythtv automatically makes sure all paths end in '/'
[17:41:03] wagnerrp: so a blank path would have ended up as root
[17:41:51] crot: that makes sense
[17:43:49] crot: thanks again hate to get a fix and run but I have a meeting to make
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[18:11:47] keith4_: Intel HD Graphics 4000 usable at all, for 1080i content LiveTV? (e.g., http://techreport.com/review/23888/review-int . . . of-computing )
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[18:13:19] keith4_: I guess it'd be as good (or not) as using a Mac Mini
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[18:17:30] keith4_: ooh, just found the wiki page on VAAPI. all is clear(er)
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[20:01:40] carchaias: Hi, what does Mythtv do when i watch tv an a scheduled recording starts. It gives three option and when i dont react it switches to the channel the recordding is on. But mostly the recording is not saved.
[20:06:19] carchaias: Hello? Does this work?
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[20:24:23] carchaias: Hi, what does Mythtv do when i watch tv an a scheduled recording starts. It gives three option and when i dont react it switches to the channel the recordding is on. But mostly the recording is not saved.
[20:24:23] carchaias:
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[20:28:08] dmfrey: Captain_Murdoch, when passing in the gzip accept encoding in to the services api, does it set the content encoding in the response to gzip?
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[21:39:13] Captain_Murdoch: dmfrey, not sure, never tried that.
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[21:45:21] dmfrey: Captain_Murdoch, it is, i verified it with curl
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[22:03:38] Demon_Fox: It would be really neat if I could encode the captured video to theora.
[22:03:53] Demon_Fox: with with opus for audio
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[22:39:19] Captain_Murdoch: Demon_Fox, the beginnings of such support are already there, but I got distracted by HTTP LIve Streaming and didn't get back to giving our transcoder and recorder the ability to record to other libav* supported codecs and containers.
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