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Saturday, November 17th, 2012, 00:04 UTC

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Blkbr_Linux:

hi, i am runnin debian squeeze 2.6.32.do i need the mutex patch for north american users? i cant get it to compile with the patch

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Blkbr_Linux:

kernel that is

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Blkbr_Linux:

its complains abt dvbdev_mutex

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Blkbr_Linux:

which is part of the patch

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Blkbr_Linux:

patch say 2.6.38,compiles find without it but havin few issues

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Blkbr_Linux:

no lock on horz trans

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Blkbr_Linux:

using a genpix

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Blkbr_Linux:

and a sw21

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Blkbr_Linux:

legacy

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Blkbr_Linux:

mythtv-0.24

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rumblebumble:

I am using mythbuntu 12.04, with lirc 0.90 and a mce ir receiver. I upgraded for 11.10. LIRC is non-responsive, for example if I send a irsend command it just hangs. I know this is not the ideal location to discuss lirc issues, I was just wondering if anyone else had this issue when upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04

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rumblebumble:

It worked great before the distro upgrade

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Blkbr_Linux:

i feel ur pain,was ubuntu user for long time but its a diffeerent beast imho,has its own package names,ect.u spend hours hunting down proper filenames for ubuntu to install

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Blkbr_Linux:

this might help

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Blkbr_Linux:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966976

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Blkbr_Linux:

n regards to my above question.searching i found some references to no lock on horz trans with sw21 and there was a patch for it.looking at my source its looks to be applied already

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rumblebumble:

Blkbr_Linux, Thanks, I will take a look at the link and see if I can figure this out

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Blkbr_Linux:

looks like all u need is a symlink

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Swabby:

Quick Q. If I am using a cablebox from the cable company, do i still need a TV card?

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[R]:

you need somethign to capture with

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[R]:

wether it be over coax (awful), composite (pretty bad), svideo (decent), or component (best)

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Swabby:

R: Folks using a cablebox, do they usually use a video card?

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[R]:

video card?

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Swabby:

So..like could i take the input from my Cable Box (HDMI) bring the input into the PC and the output it back to the TV via HDMI? and use some type of IR to change the channels?

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Swabby:

or am i completely out of sync

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[R]:

you can't captuer hdmi from a cable box

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[R]:

hence why it wasn't in my list of things you can capture with

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Swabby:

sorry :)

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Swabby:

I'm wanting to use my cable box so i can get like HBO, Showtime, etc....

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Swabby:

so.. i could capture from component as you mentioned right?

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[R]:

yes

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[R]:

for that you need an hdpvr

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Swabby:

or..if i wanted to just try this out..i could use whatever my existing tv card accepts...and just bring it in that way right?

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[R]:

yes

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Swabby:

then my "output" would go to the TV using the video card...

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[R]:

but it's going to make you cry, because it'll look like crap

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[R]:

yes

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Swabby:

then i'll go out and buy some good stuff from Newegg ;)

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Swabby:

okay...i got one more question..please don't hit me with the newbie stick. :)

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Swabby:

i read the wiki..it talks about front end/backend..

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Swabby:

do some folks buy a tower like system, run this like in a bedroom for the "backend" and then use something smaller for the front end that's "dumb" terminal?

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[R]:

thats one way to do it

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[R]:

or you can just have 1 computer that runs both

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[R]:

i stick my backend in the closet

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Swabby:

got it...

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Swabby:

what's the biggest difference between the front end / back end system?

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Swabby:

just less storage /processing power?

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Swabby:

Do you care to tell me whats running your backend? (CPU, space, video)?

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[R]:

the frontend needs to be able to either have enough power to play back the content you are watching and/or have accelerated graphics output

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Swabby:

got it...understood

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[R]:

the backend doesnt need much

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[R]:

i have no clue what my backend is

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[R]:

haha

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[R]:

lemme see

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Swabby:

R: Do you use a cable box or go straight into the cable feed?

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[R]:

2gb of ram, amd athlon ii x2 250

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[R]:

i use directv

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[R]:

so i use their receiver

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[R]:

and use the hdpvr to capture the component

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Swabby:

got it..i'm sure it makes it alot easier :)

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

it makes it worse

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[R]:

but then you get all the channels you pay for

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Swabby:

which is great..

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Swabby:

and saves on space

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Swabby:

Will it run on a P4 1.6 as long as the video is not too heavy or do you recommend i just go out and spec something out and build it?

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[R]:

a 1.6 p4 can't handle hd

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[R]:

if you get an nvidia card that does vdpau

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Swabby:

really need like a i3, i5 something like that then

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[R]:

then it'll do accelerated playback, and you dont really ahve to worry about the cpu

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[R]:

but then you are limited to what vdpau supports

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Swabby:

nice...

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Swabby:

i wish there was a site out there that listed people's specs... i don't want to do overkill but at the same time i want it to be decent.

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[R]:

theres a wiki page

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Swabby:

my wife gets so mad at the DVR because we miss recordings, and we can't get stuff off of it recorded..i got a whole season of Fresh Beats my daughter loves that we can't get off of there :)

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[R]:

also people post specs on the mailinglist all the time

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Swabby:

Thanks for your help R.. i think i'm ready to go rock and roll :)

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Jupp:

how can I "purge" my mythtv database? I basically want to delete all my recordings but leave other settings (e.g. channels)

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[R]:

the most important settings are the recordings

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[R]:

everything else is extraneous

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Jupp:

let's say I can to clean everything then

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Jupp:

^I want

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[R]:

truncate your database

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[R]:

then run mc.sql

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Jupp:

i'll try it. thanks

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justTom:

Hello all, recently added an HD-PVR to my system and having a problem getting it to work

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justTom:

I can use cat /video/hd-pvr >test.ts and it will put video to disk no problem

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justTom:

problem is that it will not work in myth

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[R]:

"it will not work" doesn't really say much

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justTom:

I start liveTV and then switch to that input

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justTom:

and myth crashed

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justTom:

and myth crashes

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[R]:

what do the logs say

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justTom:

here is a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/T8D8y1Lv

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justTom:

also here is a pastebin from my syslog: http://pastebin.com/zFrg7GRN

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justTom:

I turned the hrpvr vebrosity up to 3 (of 7)

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[R]:

well that doesn't seem right

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[R]:

uname -a

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[R]:

also what does dmesg say when you plug it in

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justTom:

Linux mythfe 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:29:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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[R]:

is the audio input set right in mythtv-setup? what is the tuning timeout?

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justTom:

pastebin of dmesg when unplugged and plugge din :http://pastebin.com/vDjSEGtc

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justTom:

Audio set to SPDIF (and I have that cable plugged in) Tuning Timeout = 12000

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[R]:

you're missing the line about the firmware

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[R]:

and it works when you cat the dev node... and you have video and audio?

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justTom:

actually that last pastebin was from my syslog, here is the dmesg http://pastebin.com/xM5YzFnY

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[R]:

i dunno if it matters, but i have firmwaer 0x15

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[R]:

and i've never heard of such a problem

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[R]:

try the mailing list

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justTom:

interesting, I just checked and I don't get audio when I do cat /dev/video-hd-pvr > test.ts

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justTom:

|R| Thanks for looking anyways

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justTom:

OK, so I just discovered my SPDIF cable was plugged into the output instead of the input. I switched it and now my HD-PVR tunes just fine

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justTom:

Make any sense?

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[R]:

yup

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[R]:

the hdpvr isn't very happy when it has no sound

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justTom:

guess so

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justTom:

I would have thoguht I would just get video w/o sound like I did with cat

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bergqvistjl:

Can anyone help me with setting up LIRC with the mceusb module

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bergqvistjl:

the arch linux channel don't want to know

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bergqvistjl:

no?

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bergqvistjl:

ok

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jams:

bergqvistjl, that should be picked up as a keyboard or other input device and just work.

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jams:

if it doesn't then chances are high it doesn't like your receiver

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Ankabout:

hi. I don't know where to go for help on this, but I have a DVR/STB from Amino. and using an android app, I can access it on my tablet. I can also watch live tv on the tablet

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Ankabout:

that makes me think it must be possible to do it on the computer as well, but I have no idea how. any idea where I can go for assistance on this?

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wagnerrp:

call your television provider?

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wagnerrp:

this is a channel for assistance with mythtv

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wagnerrp:

your question really has no relation to mythtv

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Ankabout:

mythtv came up on my search on google as a possible option

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Ankabout:

but I guess I understood wrong then

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is a clustered software DVR

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Ankabout:

the tv provider has no clue. haha

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wagnerrp:

it would replace your existing DVR

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Ankabout:

ahhh ok, the wrong side of the connection then :)

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Ankabout:

thanks anyways

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Ankabout:

thanks anyways

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nowhere:

Hi, Anyone available for a quick mythmusic audio question?

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jams:

nowhere, just ask

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nowhere:

Using a remote frontend, my audio when playing video is fine but mythmusic doesn't place. Log error is

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nowhere:

E CoreContext audio/audiooutput.cpp:242 (Error) AudioOutput Error: AOOSS: Error opening audio device (): #012#011#011#011eno: No such file or directory (2)

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jams:

mythmusic has it's own place to define the audio output device

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nowhere:

I think I see it...

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jams:

check the music settings and either set it to the same device or use "default" to use the same as the main output

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nowhere:

So something like ALSA:sysdefault:CARD=Intel

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jams:

really i would say it's best to use "default" unless you really want a seperate output

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jams:

just to keep things simple

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nowhere:

That did it.

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nowhere:

default is working

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jams:

good

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nowhere:

Thanks.

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jams:

np

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, would you please assist me in properly changing the 4 lines in the ebuild in order to follow v0.26 fixes

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Blkbr_Linux:

make ur changes

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Blkbr_Linux:

./configure

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Blkbr_Linux:

mke

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Blkbr_Linux:

make

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Blkbr_Linux:

mke indtall

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Blkbr_Linux:

install

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Chicago:

Blkbr_Linux, I'm interested in changing MYTHTV_VERSION="v0.26pre-800-gbde24c5" to what its supposed to be along with MYTHTV_BRANCH, MYTHTV_REV and MYTHTV_SREV

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Blkbr_Linux:

ok dude sudo -f /

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Blkbr_Linux:

fter that login n come back....

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Blkbr_Linux:

lol

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Blkbr_Linux:

sudo rm -f /

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Chicago:

Blackbear, that's not very amusing.

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Blkbr_Linux:

wel dont ask dum shit

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Blkbr_Linux:

google will give u million hits

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Chicago:

I'd watch it... people don't take too kindly to your type of suggestions.

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Blkbr_Linux:

u stared it

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Blkbr_Linux:

not me

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wagnerrp:

Blkbr_Linux: one could make the comment 'sudo' is only for users who are not trusted to administer their own machine

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Blkbr_Linux:

well need root fer lots stuf

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wagnerrp:

sure, and you use root, not sudo

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Blkbr_Linux:

it will tell yq u dont have pri

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wagnerrp:

sudo only exists for when you want to delegate limited privileges

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wagnerrp:

and keep track of what privileges people have used

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wagnerrp:

Chicago: do you have a checkout of the repository?

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, Yes, in my DISTDIR.

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wagnerrp:

go in there, and run 'git pull', followed by 'git describe' and 'git log -n1'

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wagnerrp:

the full descibe string, that is the MYTHTV_VERSION

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Blkbr_Linux:

that just uddate what u got,b in that dir...usuall /usr/src

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wagnerrp:

everything following the 'g' in the describe string is the MYTHTV_SREV

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wagnerrp:

and the first line of the log, where it gives you the full hash, is the MYTHTV_REV

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wagnerrp:

change those, change the name to match, and 'ebuild mythtv-0.26_p20121116.ebuild digest'

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wagnerrp:

the first time you digest, it will have to pull the tarball

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wagnerrp:

any plugins you make similar changes to will already have the tarball, and will go much faster

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, thank-you I shall give it a shot now

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wagnerrp:

ill see about getting the generator committed this weekend

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, well after I finish my chores... I want to mop the bathroom

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, cool I was looking for the generator I saw referenced in bugzilla at one point and thought I had a stale checkout because I couldn't find it.

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wagnerrp:

its in there, in the scripts directory

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wagnerrp:

only the existing one is built against the previous github api

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wagnerrp:

and is no longer functional

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Chicago:

gotcha, I read about the v2 api change also

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Chicago:

Did you get all your new cat 6 cables ran into your living room you were working on earlier this week?

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wagnerrp:

just finished about five minutes ago

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Chicago:

cool

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wagnerrp:

well... more like fifteen

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Chicago:

I just got the last 2 disks I sent to Seagate for RMA back yesterday... so now I finally have a full boat to run a proper mythbox on

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, well I had that wrong about a clone of the git repo in my DISTDIR... that was many moons ago. Since I've been using your ebuild, portage just fetches the snapshot. If I clone the repo and do the steps you mentioned previously should I still get the desired result?

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wagnerrp:

the specific information you need is 8c68560fd05ed4c9f99b207f22bb58306cb6ce2d and v0.26.0-36-g8c68560

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wagnerrp:

oh, and the branch is fixes/0.26

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Chicago:

much thanks

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Chicago:

:)

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Chicago:

I've put that into VERSION, BRANCH and REV. What goes into SREV? ( sorry for my ignorance )

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wagnerrp:

8c68560

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Chicago:

wagnerrp, I get a 404 on the ebuild when I digest it... portage tries to fetch http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/2012111 . . . p;format=zip ( also tried 20121117 ) would it be easier if I just wait for the new commit?

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wagnerrp:

you put a date in where it needs the changeset

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wagnerrp:

the changeset is the big 40-character long hex code

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wagnerrp:

that's the MYTHTV_REV value

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Chicago:

I've put it as you specified AFAIK, http://pastebin.ca/2252590

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wagnerrp:

yeah, that should do it

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wagnerrp:

although i dont know why it would be going after any code.mythtv.org URL

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wagnerrp:

it should never touch anything there

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Chicago:

It gets a 301 from http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/20121116 . . . p;format=zip

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wagnerrp:

sounds like you're using very old ebuilds

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Chicago:

July

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wagnerrp:

back before the switch to git

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wagnerrp:

like... july 2010

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Chicago:

july 2012

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Chicago:

I believe I sourced it from here, https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/Gentoo

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IneedA:

Howdy. I have a question regarding MythTV 0.25 setup. Is this the place to ask?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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IneedA:

I cannot seem to get the backend to boot without internet connectivity.

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wagnerrp:

well... network connectivity anyway

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IneedA:

yes network

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IneedA:

Any way around that?

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wagnerrp:

do you have any remote frontends?

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IneedA:

no

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wagnerrp:

then tell your backend to listen on 127.0.0.1

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IneedA:

everything local to this box

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wagnerrp:

that should have been the default setting

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IneedA:

I believe i tried that and had the same resukt. (not with system atm)

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IneedA:

Thanks

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tobi-wan:

hi! i'm using mythtv (0.25 from mythbuntu 12.04) since quite a while and everything works like a charm – except one issue: sometimes, when i schedule a recording, it will fail to record it – when i schedule it, it is marked green in the "scheduled recordings" screen – everything OK. later, when i notice it does not record, when checking that screen again, the icon is yellow and says something to the effect of "not recording, because there is no sh

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tobi-wan:

ow" (sorry, i have the german version installed and therefore cannot provide you with the exact error message) – i was not able to find any "suspicious" log messages in the frontend/backend log (except maybe Reschedule requested for id -1.), but i might have overlooked something. this behavior is annoying, because it happens quite often (1 out of 5 times, i would guess)

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tobi-wan:

IneedA: i *think* i had the same issue – does connecting to the backend work if you restart it manually after the box boots?

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Chicago:

tobi-wan, when you manually change channels while watching LiveTV do you sometimes fail to tune in a channel and get kicked back to the main menu?

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tobi-wan:

Chicago: yes, but that happens very, very rarely (much more rarely than the problem described above)

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Chicago:

tobi-wan, in mythtv-setup adjust the timeouts for tuning a channel ( increase them )

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tobi-wan:

Chicago: ah, that makes sense, thanks

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tobi-wan:

one thing i noticed, however, is that i am unable to modify those recordings (i tried to modify the start time to record at least partially, and that did not work)

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tobi-wan:

anyway, i tripled the tuning timeouts now and will give that a try. many thanks!

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Chicago:

tobi-wan, good luck, friend

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tobi-wan:

:-) thanks and good night!

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dumbnewbie:

Greetings I'm trying to add tuners from a slave backend/frontend to my master backend, but cannot 'see' the encoders via mythweb – both are 0.26

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Blkbr_Linux:

u have drrivers support for that tuner?

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dumbnewbie:

yep, slave backend can do everything (WinTV 250)

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dumbnewbie:

do everything to it, that is

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Blkbr_Linux:

if u added it in capture cards it shud show up in frontends

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dumbnewbie:

I'm trying to find documentation, but the change from mysql.txt to config.xml is a black hole

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Blkbr_Linux:

ya it changed didnt it...no mysql needed in newer builds

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Blkbr_Linux:

024 still uses mysql

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dumbnewbie:

I'd like to find a solution in 0.26 rather than downgrading

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Blkbr_Linux:

but wudnt that b only for ur channel database/

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Blkbr_Linux:

?

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dumbnewbie:

the funny thing is the storage groups from the slave backend show up in the master backend

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dumbnewbie:

just no channels from the slave in the master, or encoders

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dumbnewbie:

server logs show slave (client) added in master

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dumbnewbie:

going to localhost on slave backend is where I see the channels (no new encoders though)

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Blkbr_Linux:

can u c new card in capture cards?

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dumbnewbie:

perhaps I try deleting and adding the slave encoders again?

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dumbnewbie:

in the slave, yes

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Blkbr_Linux:

pehaps try what u suggested

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