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| [01:12:55] | Diddy403: | I was wondering how to completely reset my settings for MythBuntu but I figured it out |
| [01:13:10] | Diddy403: | had to use the Synaptics Package Manager and a few reboots |
| [01:13:11] | Diddy403: | thanks |
| [01:14:02] | Diddy403: | Oh, I have one question though, MythBox, the plugin for XBMC... has anyone gotten this thing to work with Myth .25? |
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| [01:50:54] | N0BOX: | Diddy403: last I heard it didn't support .25, yet |
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| [03:11:35] | boykillsworld1: | I am running xbmc compiled six days ago works fine for me |
| [03:12:23] | boykillsworld1: | I got it from the xvba ppa |
| [03:13:03] | boykillsworld1: | I have it working with myth version 25.2 out of standard ubuntu repo |
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| [03:34:25] | wagnerrp: | people just dont learn... USE A WINDOW MANAGER |
| [03:35:25] | [R]: | lol |
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| [03:53:06] | Diddy403: | boykillsword1, I just installed xbmc via apt-get Im gonna assume thats now what you meant |
| [03:53:18] | Diddy403: | it doesnt seem to work properly with the mythbox addon |
| [03:53:26] | wagnerrp: | try in #xbmc |
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| [05:06:36] | boykillsworld1: | DIddy go here https://launchpad.net/~wsnipex/+archive/xbmc-xvba and add the ppa then install unstable version that was compiled recently |
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| [05:17:48] | wagnerrp: | XVBA is for AMD graphics only, you were talking about nvidia graphics and vdpau |
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| [12:07:55] | stuartm: | ok, so my init script is now being ignored, doesn't seem to matter what I put in the start/stop functions it seems to bypass those entirely, which is causing a lot of problems |
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| [14:33:10] | Chicago: | Hello, out of curiosity does anybody talk about working on MythTV doing video-on-demand through the HD Homerun Prime??? |
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| [14:36:28] | wagnerrp: | usually only people who know nothing about CableCard |
| [14:36:45] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, Okay, I'll take the bait. |
| [14:37:10] | Chicago: | What am I ignorant to about the CableCard? |
| [14:37:25] | wagnerrp: | CableCard tuners like the Prime are not capable of the communication with the cable headend needed to make VOD operate |
| [14:37:58] | Chicago: | what about multipath using another card like the hauppauge tuners to talk upstream? Is that a capability? |
| [14:38:17] | wagnerrp: | nothing but your cable box is able to perform that kind of communication |
| [14:38:27] | wagnerrp: | only your cable box is able to use VOD |
| [14:38:35] | Chicago: | thanks for the explanation |
| [14:38:42] | wagnerrp: | if you want to use VOD, it needs to be analog capture off your cable box |
| [14:38:54] | Diddy403: | is there an easy to use / install MythTV frontend for Windows? (I know, dirty word, but Im still wondering) |
| [14:39:27] | wagnerrp: | there is a third party binary for it |
| [14:39:36] | Diddy403: | I thought WinMyth was dead |
| [14:39:52] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, actually I don't possess a STB... only leasing 2 CableCards |
| [14:39:53] | wagnerrp: | winmyth is something completely different |
| [14:41:17] | Diddy403: | Chicago, does the channel even tune then for VOD via cablecard? |
| [14:41:36] | Diddy403: | its usually an STB function |
| [14:41:43] | Chicago: | Diddy403, no channel lock. On the hauppauge tuners, you see the channels and the payload data though. |
| [14:41:43] | wagnerrp: | even if the HDHomeRun Prime could access those VOD channels |
| [14:41:46] | wagnerrp: | it would be useless to mythtv |
| [14:42:01] | Chicago: | BTW, I think I found a bug in 0.26_pre20120706 mythtv. |
| [14:42:17] | wagnerrp: | as those channels are copy protected, and thus CableCard tuners will not pass it on to mythtv |
| [14:42:24] | wagnerrp: | Chicago: so... update to a recent version? |
| [14:42:34] | wagnerrp: | that is a 5-month old pre-release copy of mythtv |
| [14:42:45] | Chicago: | After creating a new installation and adding 6 storage paths for recordings, mythtv doesn't report them all as available until after they've been recorded onto once. |
| [14:43:13] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, then I should find a new ebuild. I was grabbing my ebuilds from a git repo |
| [14:43:28] | wagnerrp: | there are four lines at the top of the ebuild |
| [14:43:37] | wagnerrp: | update them to whatever version you want to build |
| [14:43:48] | Chicago: | are you recommending any particular revision? |
| [14:44:01] | wagnerrp: | usually the latest on the fixes/0.26 branch is a good idea |
| [14:44:12] | Chicago: | yeah, I agree |
| [14:44:34] | Chicago: | dunno why I didn't poke at it more myself... ( been less obsessed with MythTV due to time available to work on things ) |
| [14:44:38] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses total partition size and free space to determine duplicate filesystems |
| [14:44:46] | wagnerrp: | it's not so much a bug |
| [14:44:54] | wagnerrp: | as a flaw in the way mythtv uses to detect such things |
| [14:44:56] | Chicago: | Ahh... that would explain it. |
| [14:45:16] | wagnerrp: | however when you're considering multiple different filesystem types, including shared network filesystems |
| [14:45:18] | Chicago: | due to all 6 paths were a cleanly formatted device ( /dev/sda ) for example, no partitions... and all were empty |
| [14:45:21] | wagnerrp: | there's not really a better option |
| [14:45:48] | Chicago: | if exists UUID use method 1? if not use network filesystem method? |
| [14:46:48] | wagnerrp: | it could be improved by using some filesystem ID, but it's not a harmful bug |
| [14:47:05] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, a moment ago you said CableCard tuners won't pass along to MythTV if the channel is copy protected.... |
| [14:47:12] | wagnerrp: | it only exhibits itself when two filesystems are the same within a certain fuzzing distance |
| [14:47:22] | wagnerrp: | which is unlikely to ever happen except when they're empty |
| [14:47:24] | Chicago: | wouldn't the conditional access channels I subscribe to be copy protected??? They come into MythTV just fine |
| [14:47:42] | wagnerrp: | no, conditional access and copy protection are two completely independent concepts |
| [14:47:49] | Chicago: | k |
| [14:47:58] | wagnerrp: | conditional access means you can only access those channels to which you are subscribed |
| [14:48:07] | Chicago: | So the streams for the channels I subscribe to do not have the copy protected flag on? |
| [14:48:11] | wagnerrp: | copy protection means the content you access from those channels must remain protected from you |
| [14:48:37] | wagnerrp: | copy protection requires some DRM implementation on every device that touches any form of the video |
| [14:48:47] | wagnerrp: | and open source software cannot implement DRM |
| [14:49:24] | Chicago: | We don't need to go down that road. I'm a DVI interface kinda guy.... avoiding HDMI and DRM like the plague |
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| [14:50:04] | wagnerrp: | DVI supports HDCP just the same as HDMI |
| [14:50:07] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, btw every time I jump into this channel once or twice every few years; you always respond to my questions and quickly. |
| [14:50:09] | Chicago: | Thank you! |
| [14:50:26] | ** Chicago is more ignorant than I thought about DVI. ** | |
| [14:50:50] | zombor: | hdmi is dvi+audio, electrically |
| [14:51:01] | clever: | with CEC also |
| [14:51:42] | wagnerrp: | DVI and HDMI both have three balanced data channels |
| [14:52:13] | wagnerrp: | the only real difference between the two is that DVI mandates one channel is one color, and the color data is directly streamed |
| [14:52:38] | wagnerrp: | while HDMI treats them as generic data channels, and sends video and audio data in packets across them |
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| [14:53:05] | wagnerrp: | that's why you can get cheap adapters to convert between the two |
| [14:53:16] | wagnerrp: | any HDMI device will accept a DVI signal |
| [14:53:26] | wagnerrp: | but the same may not be true in reverse |
| [14:53:28] | clever: | and in the case of HDCP, it just xor's every pixel in freame with a random bit patern (same for each frame i believe) |
| [14:53:34] | Chicago: | I always thought that HDMI was just a demuxed stream sent like analog across the wire to the TV. |
| [14:53:53] | wagnerrp: | demuxed... decoded? |
| [14:53:58] | Chicago: | de multiplexed |
| [14:54:17] | wagnerrp: | that's a completely different concept |
| [14:54:42] | wagnerrp: | you encode video in some format like h264, mpeg2, mp3 |
| [14:54:42] | Chicago: | Well I suppose to be clear in my previous statement.... I mean demux the PS from the TS and then decode the PS before transmission across the wire. |
| [14:55:04] | wagnerrp: | you then multiplex multiple audio and video streams in a container, like mpeg2ts, mp4, mkv |
| [14:55:26] | wagnerrp: | DVI and HDMI are both raw interfaces |
| [14:55:37] | wagnerrp: | you're sending raw pixel data, as opposed to some compressed format |
| [14:55:47] | Chicago: | that's the right qualitative word "raw" |
| [14:56:49] | Chicago: | So now based on your lesson; I've learned I'm just as screwed by HDCP for my DVI displays. |
| [14:57:25] | clever: | i believe most computer monitors dont support HDCP, they lack the keys |
| [14:57:34] | clever: | or maybe thats just old ones |
| [14:58:07] | Chicago: | clever, I *think* the HDMI monitors must. When I started shopping for DVI displays it was due to learning about the DRM. |
| [14:58:29] | Chicago: | ( who knows – for the displays with both interfaces ) |
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| [15:05:43] | Chicago: | Another quick question from yours truly. When I PgUp or PgDn in the Program Guide, my rig skips on playback a bit. Should I see if its the audio cutting out or move the database to another server ( other than the one mythfrontend is running on ) |
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| [15:13:45] | Diddy403: | wagnerrp, you still here? Can you give me the details of whatever 3rd party you were talking about for the Windows MythTV frontend? |
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| [15:15:39] | Chicago: | Diddy403, check here; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Windows# . . . s_Pre-Builds |
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| [15:54:21] | Chicago: | Diddy403, then it also looks like if you want to muck about with Visual Studio 2010, you can see here -> https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/Win32 |
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| [16:28:21] | Diddy403: | hey Chicago, thanks for hte linsk |
| [16:28:35] | Diddy403: | I installed it and ran it, it runs like shit lol... live tv and recorded play back is near impossible |
| [16:28:53] | Diddy403: | could be the fact that Im doing everything over wireless internet |
| [16:29:09] | Diddy403: | anyway, thanks a lot |
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| [16:45:39] | wagnerrp: | yeah, streaming video tends to not work well over wireless networking |
| [16:55:48] | wagnerrp: | and considerably less so if you're actually using wireless "internet" |
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| [17:11:48] | Diddy403: | heheh no just wifi, 802.11G |
| [17:11:54] | Diddy403: | well N from my desktop |
| [17:12:01] | Diddy403: | but the htpc is using Wireless as well |
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| [17:14:06] | ** wagnerrp shakes his head ** | |
| [17:15:11] | ** wagnerrp takes his box of cat6 and goes back to wiring additional lines from the patch panel to the living room ** | |
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| [17:16:40] | Chicago: | Diddy403, hardly enough bandwidth for HD.... hardly enough OS for MythTV. |
| [17:17:17] | Diddy403: | well the PC its running is pretty powerful, just the wireless local network is shit |
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| [17:18:40] | jams: | Diddy403 this irc channel is rated G, no need for such language. |
| [17:18:55] | Diddy403: | my b.... |
| [17:19:17] | Diddy403: | I didnt realize IRC had restrictions on such things... I'll lay off the colourful language |
| [17:19:49] | Chicago: | Diddy403, kids come here too sometimes |
| [17:20:02] | Diddy403: | kids are sometimes 40 years old on IRC :-) |
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| [17:22:04] | stuartm: | and sometimes they are just kids |
| [17:22:44] | stuartm: | that said, my language isn't always so PG in here |
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| [17:25:31] | jams: | stuartm, if I ever get around to it would a patch that stops the screensaver from activating during mythmusic be welcome? |
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| [17:30:12] | stuartm: | jams: X/Gnome screensaver? |
| [17:30:25] | jams: | xscreensaver but yeah |
| [17:30:45] | stuartm: | yeah, it would although we were already doing that ... |
| [17:30:55] | jams: | it displays on top of visulations or blank screen |
| [17:31:14] | stuartm: | patch would be welcome |
| [17:31:17] | jams: | well it doens't work in .25 :) |
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| [17:47:34] | stuartm: | ah well, I guess I don't have the screensaver enabled on my production box (no point) and on my dev box I'm normally working on the second screen when playing music |
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| [19:36:08] | justinh: | gah stupid slow manual download from Aopen |
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| [19:36:49] | justinh: | normally I'd expect you just plug in a new controller & off you go |
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| [19:46:22] | justinh: | heh. had to remove about a million jumpers |
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| [19:53:45] | stuartm: | jumpers?? who still builds boards with jumpers? |
| [19:55:41] | clever: | if it had that many jumpers, maybe they just used jumpers to link the pci connector? lol |
| [19:56:31] | stuartm: | it _almost_ warrants a "What were jumpers grandad?" |
| [20:01:05] | justinh: | how the heck do you reconfigure X on linhes then? |
| [20:02:15] | stuartm: | it has not gui tool for configuring the system? |
| [20:03:51] | justinh: | no use when X won't start because the box is preconfigured for yucky intel |
| [20:04:23] | justinh: | pacman -R xf86-video-intel intel-dri |
| [20:04:27] | justinh: | yada yada |
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| [20:13:39] | Diddy403: | I have a stupid question that hopefully someone can help me with |
| [20:14:12] | Diddy403: | I installed MythBuntu yesterday and got everything working perfectly. Except for the fact that I cannot for the life of me find my default OS audio settings |
| [20:14:27] | Diddy403: | its set to my onboard audio by default and I need to change it to the HDMI audio |
| [20:15:01] | Diddy403: | but there seems to be no settings anywhere in MythBuntu for the OS audio controls (where I would normally just go to settings in ubuntu) |
| [20:16:16] | stuartm: | Diddy403: you specifically want to change the settings for the desktop as opposed to mythtv? MythTV's audio is configured separately in the frontend, it doesn't use whatever you may have configured for the desktop |
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| [20:17:04] | Diddy403: | I understand that, thats why audio works fine in Myth but not for anything else |
| [20:18:21] | stuartm: | Diddy403: can I suggest asking in #ubuntu-mythtv then? |
| [20:18:55] | stuartm: | they'll know more than we do hear about ubuntu/mythbuntu specific stuff |
| [20:18:58] | stuartm: | here |
| [20:19:03] | stuartm: | s/hear/here/ |
| [20:21:03] | justinh: | OMG I forgot how sweet nvidia tvout is |
| [20:21:31] | justinh: | stuartm: nobody fixed the screen resize wizard yet? ;-) |
| [20:21:39] | stuartm: | AMD tvout was always better though :/ |
| [20:21:45] | stuartm: | justinh: no-one uses it anymore |
| [20:21:45] | justinh: | yeah fully tuneable |
| [20:22:05] | justinh: | xstart & end, ystart/end... |
| [20:22:37] | jams: | looks like you figured it out but xconfig.sh probably would have sorted out the driver situation for you |
| [20:22:55] | justinh: | anyway – bloody 25MB download just to find out I had to remove so many jumper blocks |
| [20:23:09] | stuartm: | who needs a screen resize wizard when they are using fully digital connections and TVs that just do the right thing (well that's debatable, but generally) |
| [20:23:18] | justinh: | methinks Aopen needs to get a faster ftp server |
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| [20:24:58] | justinh: | stuartm: sticklers like me who don't have a panel TV yet :P |
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| [20:28:11] | dijonyummy: | hi, i have ubuntu 12.10, did apt-get install mythtv, trying to get it to work with hdhomerun, but whenever i try to watch tv, it says all tuners are in use. resetting the hdhomerun doesnt do anything |
| [20:28:17] | dijonyummy: | any ideas |
| [20:31:53] | wagnerrp: | sounds like you have no fully defined tuners, and all zero of zero valid tuners are in use |
| [20:32:00] | Chicago: | dijonyummy, mythtv-setup have a default channel set for each tuner? ( is there another instance of mythtv running and recording? ) |
| [20:32:38] | wagnerrp: | did you actually define a video source, and map it to the tuner inputs on the HDHR devices? |
| [20:35:19] | dijonyummy: | it can see the 3 tuners |
| [20:35:31] | wagnerrp: | hdhomeruns only have two tuners |
| [20:35:36] | wagnerrp: | do you mean a HDHomeRun Prime? |
| [20:35:40] | dijonyummy: | mine has 3, yeah |
| [20:35:55] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to use this as a cablecard tuner? or a clearqam tuner? |
| [20:36:49] | dijonyummy: | a cablecard |
| [20:37:08] | wagnerrp: | have you created a video source, and pulled a lineup from your schedules direct account? |
| [20:37:17] | dijonyummy: | was working before on another machine 12.04 ubuntu, but i wiped that out thinking its backend was conflicting, so now no machines work |
| [20:37:33] | Chicago: | doh |
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| [20:37:45] | dijonyummy: | i can pull lineup manually via mythfilldatabase, but not from the myth-setup, it just gives no error |
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| [20:38:03] | dijonyummy: | but i reinstalled a new backend on this machine so should be working |
| [20:38:06] | wagnerrp: | but you have a lineup, and it is pulling guide data? |
| [20:38:14] | wagnerrp: | have you mapped that video source to all three inputs? |
| [20:38:18] | justinh: | jams: any pointers on the best way to run nvidia-settings -l at X startup? |
| [20:38:30] | Chicago: | dijonyummy, I had that happen at schedules direct this week. I needed to add/delete a channel from the lineup and save changes; then mythtv-setup could pull-up the lineup. |
| [20:38:31] | dijonyummy: | yeah via mythfilldatabse, but the mythsetup doesn't seem to retrieve any listings |
| [20:38:44] | justinh: | not that I haven't done it before – just figuring the best way to do it for LH :-) |
| [20:38:48] | wagnerrp: | but you at least have channels? even if they have no data? |
| [20:39:30] | dijonyummy: | chicago, how do you add a channel on schedulesdirect? i though you can only add/del lineups? |
| [20:39:50] | Chicago: | dijonyummy, login, click "edit" for the lineup you've selected |
| [20:39:51] | wagnerrp: | if you go into a lineup, you can mark channels as ignored |
| [20:39:55] | Chicago: | ( its on the right ) |
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| [20:41:56] | dijonyummy: | that'll fix the lineups, but why the 'all tuners are in use'? even after i turn my device off/on |
| [20:42:34] | Chicago: | dijonyummy, do you have a DHCP server to lease an IP to the HD Homerun Prime? |
| [20:42:53] | dijonyummy: | the hdhomerun has a dedicated ip on my lan |
| [20:42:57] | wagnerrp: | dijonyummy: check your backend logs |
| [20:43:04] | wagnerrp: | that error usually indicates a misconfiguration |
| [20:43:06] | justinh: | jams: echo "exec /bin/su nvidia-settings -l" >> /etc/sv/frontend/run I reckon will do the job :-) |
| [20:43:19] | wagnerrp: | there are no tuners fully configured such that they can be used |
| [20:43:34] | wagnerrp: | or, could be a storage permission issue |
| [20:43:49] | wagnerrp: | you have no disk space you can write to to store those recordings |
| [20:43:56] | Chicago: | wagnerrp, wouldn't mythtv-setup warn him of the permissions issue as he exits? |
| [20:44:19] | wagnerrp: | yes, if run properly |
| [20:44:28] | wagnerrp: | which means run as the same user that runs mythbackend |
| [20:44:41] | dijonyummy: | should i install mythtv as root? i used sudo |
| [20:44:51] | wagnerrp: | you must install mythtv as root |
| [20:45:01] | dijonyummy: | ok so thats fine |
| [20:45:21] | wagnerrp: | as only root has the rights to the /usr/bin, /usr/share, and /usr/lib |
| [20:45:47] | wagnerrp: | technically, you could install it as a user if you compiled with a $PREFIX the user account has write access to |
| [20:46:06] | wagnerrp: | now... should you run mythtv as root? absolutely not |
| [20:46:12] | wagnerrp: | nor should you run mythtv-setup as root |
| [20:46:19] | wagnerrp: | nor should you run either using sudo |
| [20:46:35] | wagnerrp: | and at least IMHO, you shouldn't be using sudo anyway |
| [20:46:56] | jams: | justinh, it already runs on startup |
| [20:48:06] | jams: | and that echo command you posted will not work as it doesn't get executed until it's to late |
| [20:48:56] | justinh: | jams: it does? so which user does it run as? I saved my config but on bootup it didn't restore the settings |
| [20:49:01] | jams: | look at /etc/X11/Sessions/LinHES to see how thing startup |
| [20:51:12] | jams: | it runs as the mythtv user |
| [20:52:09] | justinh: | jams: ah that'd be why nvidia-settings didn't work then :-) |
| [20:52:55] | justinh: | copied /root/.nvidia-settings.rc to /home/mythtv/. that ought to do it |
| [20:53:21] | skd5aner: | odd, now livetv never works at all :/ |
| [20:54:28] | stuartm: | skd5aner: with the HD-PVR? |
| [20:55:03] | stuartm: | jpabq: is the HD-PVR signal monitor busted in 0.26? |
| [20:56:35] | jams: | justinh sounds good. make sure permissions are good for the mythtv user to read the file |
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| [21:00:41] | justinh: | now I just have to hope the darn thing doesn't overheat |
| [21:01:52] | justinh: | anyway, HAF is back up to 99.99999% ;-) |
| [21:02:39] | justinh: | see all that frickin open sauce driver nonsense is all very worthy & everything, but if the drivers keep damn well breaking... |
| [21:03:19] | justinh: | oh.. I'll be able to finally take opengl video rendering for a test drive later too |
| [21:04:13] | justinh: | I just *wish* I knew what the problem with the other OS was in terms of mythtv usage snappiness etc. Maybe it's mysql client stuff |
| [21:04:32] | justinh: | but AFAIK linhes is on the same version I was using before on ubuntu |
| [21:05:15] | justinh: | could be useful to know what it was up to... but... life is too short, aka my wife has too many shows to get through |
| [21:08:35] | justinh: | anyhoo, nvidia svideo out is like HD compared to intel TVout :-) |
| [21:10:56] | jams: | glad its working |
| [21:11:25] | justinh: | me too! I inspected the pci-e flexi riser when it arrived & wasn't too happy about the soldering |
| [21:12:06] | justinh: | tempted to change the bootsplash screen though.. I *Hate* Tux |
| [21:12:17] | justinh: | so far it's all I can fault though :P |
| [21:14:27] | skd5aner: | stuartm: sorry, wife was cleaning and unplugged cable modem |
| [21:14:37] | jams: | i could go for something a bit more professional looking..but it doesn't bother me much |
| [21:14:48] | jams: | the wife snickers at it |
| [21:14:57] | jams: | she finds it amusing |
| [21:15:30] | skd5aner: | stuartm: not just hd-pvr, anything... particularly, it's trying to start up with one of my PVR-500 tuners, and either plays back <1 second, or just freezes up copletely... haven't been able to launch live tv in ~3 days now... which is weird, because it used to at least be termpormental |
| [21:16:51] | justinh: | jams: for me, it could look like anything, just not featuring that penguin ;-) |
| [21:17:33] | justinh: | I dunno what I've got against little Tux.. but from the first time I ever saw him I just want to hit him LOL |
| [21:18:12] | stuartm: | skd5aner: do you have any ATSC tuners? |
| [21:18:21] | skd5aner: | yes |
| [21:18:47] | skd5aner: | but, not sure how I can even tell mythtv to try and start with those |
| [21:19:00] | skd5aner: | I suppose I could change the Live TV start order in mythtv-setup to point to one of them |
| [21:19:14] | stuartm: | skd5aner: only way to do it is to change the starting channel to use an ATSC channel number |
| [21:19:37] | stuartm: | that should even be less fiddly than changing the order of cards |
| [21:19:40] | skd5aner: | well, starting channel would be relative to each tuner.... not just live tv in general, ttbomk |
| [21:21:01] | skd5aner: | stuartm: if I start live tv, I'm not sure how to dictate to it which starting channel to use – it picks a tuner and uses either the starting channel or the last saved channel on that tuner... |
| [21:21:57] | stuartm: | yeah I didn't think that all the way through |
| [21:22:08] | skd5aner: | stuartm: heh – np |
| [21:23:02] | stuartm: | I'm so used to all my tuners sharing the same channels (if not from the same source, terrestrial vs satellite) |
| [21:23:26] | stuartm: | starting channel gets set to 1 on all my input connections |
| [21:23:43] | skd5aner: | ah |
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| [22:05:18] | rumblebumble: | Upgraded to mythbuntu 12.04 and 0.26. My IR-receiver is not responding anymore. It even hangs when I send an irsend command. I know this might not be the right place to ask about lirc but I thought others might have experienced this. |
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| [22:08:11] | justinh: | I upgraded my ubuntu last week or so ago. I won't be doing that again. EVER :-) |
| [22:10:35] | rumblebumble: | justinh, Did you happen to run into some lirc issues ;) |
| [22:11:08] | justinh: | it was because of lirc I updated |
| [22:13:40] | rumblebumble: | I seem to be having to same problem, just wondering if you found a solution |
| [22:14:06] | justinh: | yeah. I decided not to use ubuntu anymore :-P |
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| [22:15:47] | rumblebumble: | I have tried re-installing lirc, and re-configuring it, no luck yet, it just hangs |
| [22:16:07] | rumblebumble: | So you had to switch distros |
| [22:18:01] | rumblebumble: | justinh, I might have found a solution, I will message you if it works |
| [22:20:05] | justinh: | little point. I've made up my mind |
| [22:20:42] | justinh: | I didn't *have* to switch distros, but working around the pain upgrading to an inferior Intel video driver was just too much work |
| [22:21:54] | justinh: | the irony was that after updating, lirc worked just fine with my new MCE remote receiver |
| [22:22:23] | justinh: | it was the intel video which was properly borked – and without working xrandr to change the tvout parameters it *sucked* |
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| [22:24:40] | rumblebumble: | ahhhhh, the intel drivers where the last straw |
| [22:25:51] | boykillsworld1: | Hey Diddy if you ever get your audio straightened out you can run the XVBA XBMC ppa on an nvidia card it autodetects what card your running and uses vdpau if your nvidia |
| [22:26:29] | boykillsworld1: | That's how I'm using it right now |
| [22:27:27] | boykillsworld1: | I still prefer the myth frontend as fastforwarding is kind of a mess but everything else appears to work fine. |
| [22:28:32] | justinh: | how's their 'pvr' addon coming along, I wonder? |
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| [22:30:55] | boykillsworld1: | Well I'm still playing with it but live TV worked great for the football game I watched last night. |
| [22:31:51] | boykillsworld1: | it weird how it does not know how long a recorded file is when trying fast forward. |
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| [22:34:07] | boykillsworld1: | I just set up mythtv again for the first time in a year so need to get more recordings and work out some set up bugs first |
| [22:34:33] | justinh: | yeah well, there's a bunch of good reasons mythtv uses database based seektables for recordings ;-) |
| [22:34:33] | boykillsworld1: | Anyone know how to transcode and keep the dolby digital |
| [22:35:23] | justinh: | yeah use a user job & run a script which does the correct kind of transcode |
| [22:35:42] | boykillsworld1: | ok |
| [22:36:07] | boykillsworld1: | well I have so much space I dropped in a 3TB drive I might not bother |
| [22:36:21] | boykillsworld1: | I'm mainly in it for the comskip |
| [22:37:03] | justinh: | you don't really wanna be autoremoving ads |
| [22:37:18] | justinh: | even if your commercial flagging is 95% effective ;-) |
| [22:37:24] | boykillsworld1: | true |
| [22:37:29] | justinh: | I mean *destructively* ;-) |
| [22:37:51] | boykillsworld1: | I just keep the original with the commercial skip points |
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| [22:38:47] | boykillsworld1: | I always had issues getting commercial lists to work unless I transcode in myth |
| [22:44:57] | boykillsworld1: | I figured out how get nvidia vdpau to stop tearing with gnome-shell any idea where I should post it. |
| [22:45:58] | justinh: | you turned off compiz/desktop compositing? |
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| [22:51:35] | boykillsworld1: | nope I found a fix deep in a fedora bug thread if you paste CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling in /etc/environment. Everything works fine. |
| [22:51:54] | boykillsworld1: | well without the smiley face |
| [22:52:49] | boykillsworld1: | I just want to get the word out. |
| [22:53:46] | boykillsworld1: | I was designing my own custom gnome 3 desktop and it was angering me. |
| [22:57:54] | justinh: | wonder if that's clutter as in python clutter UI animation gadget thingy |
| [22:59:36] | boykillsworld1: | here's the bug post https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651312#c18 |
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| [23:00:16] | boykillsworld1: | I can't say I know enough to really understand why that fixed it. |
| [23:00:44] | boykillsworld1: | I understand the audio system way better that graphics. I just like making desktops look pretty. |
| [23:02:04] | justinh: | I used to like making mythtv look pretty.. churned out quite a few old mythtv themes in my time |
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| [23:04:31] | boykillsworld1: | Yeah I tried to revive element os but no one wanted to help. |
| [23:04:56] | boykillsworld1: | I pretty much just make desktops for my relatives now |
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| [23:09:09] | boykillsworld1: | I try to stay away from building mythtv distros. Even if someone is smart enough to install their own operating system setting up myth is a whole other ball game. |
| [23:11:18] | boykillsworld1: | I just wish their was a legal source of content for xbmc. I know you can rip your own dvds but distributing a distro with a dvd ripper is a slippery slope. |
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| [23:20:43] | boykillsworld1: | Boxee was great until hulu blocked them then they abandoned the desktop. I kind of wish Amazon or Google would team up with xbmc as a content provider. |
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| [23:27:39] | justinh: | the problem for them is being able to keep the sanctity of their digital streams from end to end |
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| [23:28:03] | justinh: | if it was my content I'd want to be sure of that too |
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