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Sunday, November 11th, 2012, 00:01 UTC
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[00:20:28] IReboot: wagnerrp: Thanks big guy. There is an alternate lossless transcoder that works with more than MPEG2. See: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Lossless_Cut
[00:20:52] IReboot: You know how it is for me I must keep my monthly user count up.
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[01:01:05] jello: Hello, I'm running mythtv 0.26 on Debian and for some reason the volume controls don't seem to do anything. How can I fix this?
[01:03:25] jello: log from `mythavtest -v audio,playback` is at: http://paste.debian.net/208201/
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[01:10:29] jello: nevermind, had the wrong mixer setting...
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[02:16:18] jams: well this is interesting..my dual core atom FE changes channels without any problems in 3 seconds. While a dual core i3 takes 5–7 seconds during that time the 1sec has audio..then a black picture then artifacts on the old channel when finally audio and pciture sync up.
[02:16:43] jams: both nvidia graphics
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[03:30:31] skd5aner: wagnerrp: I think Peter is screwed... it is a bit too matrix-y I said the same thing
[03:33:11] skd5aner: Bummed: why not just subscribe to SD? Your wife won't like you spend $25/year?
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[03:36:54] skd5aner: That's $2/mo... I'd hope no one has a spouse that micromanages the finances that tightly that she wonders where those two extra $1 bills in your wallet went... especially if you pay a fortune for cable or something like most folks do
[03:40:39] skd5aner: Actually, when you think of the amount of human intervention is takes to for me to have 14 days of guide data, with all the various metadata details they provide, for several hundred channels, 24/7... Seems like the steal of a century
[03:59:31] wagnerrp: monkeypet: you know jim stichnoth personally?
[04:05:47] wagnerrp: monkeypet: doing a sweep of wiki accounts, and yours got flagged for using the same IP address as another account
[04:06:26] Bummed: nope... she is too afraid that the economy is going down the drain.. she is in her save every penny mode
[04:06:52] Bummed: nope.. our cable bill is $40 a month
[04:08:44] wagnerrp: and this account "povsenior"... i don't even want to know what kind of content they're going to be spamming
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[05:30:08] justTom: Anyone know if there is an issue using a serial IR receiver and a USB IR blaster on the same FE?
[05:30:47] [R]: shoudn't be
[05:30:48] justTom: I've been using a serial receiver for eyars and not trying to add a blaster. I've tried the one built into my HD-PVR and a winMCE blaster
[05:30:56] justTom: both knowck out my receiver
[05:31:02] justTom: knock
[05:32:01] justTom: OK, guess I just need to dig a little deeper
[05:32:11] justTom: can't figure the issue out
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[15:35:55] lapion: The option "Allow live TV to move schedules shows" doesn't work.
[15:37:07] lapion: The system keeps coming up with a dialog box asking me if ?I want to continue watching, watch the recording or exit..
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[15:44:45] Jinx: i'm looking for a DVR/PVR--primarily for over-the-air broadcasts, though it'd be nice if it could record via other inputs (e.g. RCA) as well
[15:45:44] Jinx: i came across this application which seems like a better idea for the software end (i've read "Boxee" is having trouble keeping its firmware working properly)
[15:45:56] Jinx: however, i'm wondering what people typically use for hardware
[15:46:20] Jinx: from what I can tell, is it usually just a standard PC with Linux?
[15:47:35] Jinx: are there any pieces of small hardware that could run the software independently of a host machine? (i.e. frontend and backend)... e.g. RaspberryPi ?
[15:47:52] Jinx: any help is appreciated, thanks in advance :)
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[16:02:19] stuartm: Jinx: standard PC, obviously those come in all shapes and sizes these days
[16:02:58] stuartm: hardware varies depending on where you live, different countries use different standards ... or more accurately the world uses DVB and North America use ATSC just to be difficult
[16:07:02] stuartm: Raspberry Pi just doesn't have the power, although it may be supported in future it's not currently and there is no guarantee, some people are happy with Atom + ION based devices (I can't name exact models) which are pretty small and in some cases can be bolted to the rear of the TV
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[16:08:29] stuartm: that's for frontends at least, backend doesn't need to be powerful but it needs room for storage (possibly multiple HDDs) and PCI(e) cards so those are generally bigger – many people hide the backend away in a cupboard or basement
[16:09:16] stuartm: there are usb tuners, which work well enough but of course those only increase the cabling/sprawl
[16:09:50] Jinx: heh, i guess what i'd like is hardware like Boxee and software like MythTV eh?
[16:10:55] Jinx: i'm guessing MythTV probably isn't for me then, as for some reason I really want to keep my network out of the equation
[16:11:05] Jinx: i guess probably because it's just one more thing that could die
[16:11:25] Jinx: (i've had routers go bad on me at a rate of about 1 per year for the past 4 years)
[16:11:49] Jinx: anyway, i appreciate the information
[16:12:25] Jinx: this sounds like a great piece of software for those who already have the hardware
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[17:25:23] jst_: Is there a script that pulls IMDB/metadata for all the videos I have on my MythBox?
[17:25:34] jst_: My google skills are seriously lacking.
[17:25:45] wagnerrp: yes
[17:25:59] wagnerrp: when in the video library, hit 'm'
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[17:26:05] wagnerrp: there's an option for that in the menu
[17:26:29] jst_: retrieve all details?
[17:26:40] wagnerrp: the video library will loop through any as yet unprocessed videos, and attempt to find metadata from themoviedb or thetvdb, depending on what type of content it is
[17:27:06] jst_: retrieve all details didn't work
[17:27:14] wagnerrp: give it time
[17:27:25] wagnerrp: it runs in the background as long as you remain in the video library
[17:27:30] wagnerrp: if you exit it, it will terminate
[17:28:26] jst_: was that the right command though: retrieve all details?
[17:28:35] wagnerrp: sounds right
[17:29:04] wagnerrp: note, it will only run on a video once, after which that video is marked as "processed", and will be skipped in future instances of running that mechanism
[17:29:24] wagnerrp: you can also configure the video library to automatically trigger that batch metadata scan when you scan for content
[17:29:40] jst_: settings -> metadata settings -> enable metadata in file browser mode
[17:29:44] jst_: could that be it, too? ^
[17:30:02] wagnerrp: no, you don't want to bother with that, as you should not be in file browse mode
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[17:30:38] jst_: roger
[17:30:40] jst_: thanks, wagnerrp
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[17:31:12] jst_: i wonder if it's taking so long because i have movie directories labeled like this
[17:31:18] jst_: Top Gun (1080p-Surround)"
[17:31:27] jst_: might be confusing
[17:31:41] wagnerrp: anything in parentheses should be cleared
[17:31:51] wagnerrp: but i don't know why you would name your stuff like that anyway
[17:32:00] wagnerrp: actually... those are directories?
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[17:32:34] wagnerrp: if they are directories, they would need to have a subdirectory named BDMV, so the scanner recognizes it as a bluray
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[17:33:44] jst_: they're bluray rips
[17:33:49] jst_: well, many are
[17:33:54] jst_: i just want to know the quality of the file
[17:34:03] jst_: it's an easy way for me to keep track
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[17:34:22] wagnerrp: well so is some text file somewhere
[17:34:59] wagnerrp: not sure why you would care about the quality, since there's little reason for it to be anything other than how it exists on disk
[17:35:16] jst_: because surround sound makes the panties drop
[17:35:27] jst_: and i need to know if a better quality version came out lately
[17:35:28] jst_: ;)
[17:35:56] wagnerrp: yes, but you're not going to get a better version, unless they re-release the movie on a remastered disc
[17:36:07] jst_: so if i renamed them, imdb should be able to pull their info no prob?
[17:36:31] wagnerrp: it shouldn't matter, as the directory name is ignored for movies, unless it's a BDMV or VIDEO_TS folder
[17:36:55] wagnerrp: for movies, only the filename itself is considered for the initial title seeded into the database and used for the metadata lookup
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[17:37:18] jst_: okay, let's have a looksie, shall we?
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[17:37:37] jst_: drwxr-xr-x 2 james james 46 Jun 5 2011 300 (1080p-Surround)
[17:37:50] jst_: -rw-r--r-- 1 james james 11G Jul 25 2007 300.2006.1080p.BluRay.x264-hV.mkv
[17:38:01] wagnerrp: ah, well now i can't help you
[17:38:14] jst_: oh, please, i own the movie
[17:38:21] wagnerrp: so?
[17:38:25] jst_: and even saw it twice in theaters
[17:38:29] wagnerrp: you own your copy on the disc
[17:38:30] jst_: am i not allowed to make backups?
[17:38:36] wagnerrp: sure, you can make backups
[17:38:38] wagnerrp: that is not a backup
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[17:39:00] jst_: figures
[17:39:15] jst_: i can make my own copy, but can't use someone elses despite owning it
[17:39:20] wagnerrp: that is correct
[17:39:28] jst_: which country do you live in?
[17:39:36] wagnerrp: they do not have the right to distribute their copy of the movie to you
[17:39:44] wagnerrp: so laws were broken in you acquiring that file
[17:39:58] jst_: welp, learned my lesson
[17:40:03] jst_: never buy a movie again
[17:40:10] jst_: what an terrible law
[17:40:11] wagnerrp: and why is that?
[17:40:17] wagnerrp: if you have the movie, make your own backup
[17:40:18] jst_: it's not convenient
[17:40:41] wagnerrp: the hell it's not convenient... pop the disc in your drive, copy it to your hard drive, wait 30 minutes
[17:41:00] jst_: on linux though?
[17:41:01] wagnerrp: surely that's faster and less effort than downloading some 11GB pirated file
[17:41:22] wagnerrp: i believe makemkv can be used on linux
[17:41:31] wagnerrp: personally, i've got a copy of anydvdhd
[17:42:04] wagnerrp: i know people have used anydvdhd in virtualbox, on a linux host
[17:42:12] wagnerrp: but it requires special drivers, so it cannot be used in WINE
[17:42:22] jst_: is anydvd legal?
[17:42:26] jst_: didn't they get sued?
[17:42:30] wagnerrp: in their country of origin, yes
[17:42:38] jst_: this is a joke
[17:42:40] wagnerrp: they're based in some banana republic
[17:42:44] jst_: thanks for the help
[17:42:51] jst_: i will google my ass off now
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[17:47:45] stuartm: makemkv can be used on linux, gui client and currently free although you have to keep entering a temporary registration number every few weeks
[17:48:11] wagnerrp: and it supports aacs/bd+ on linux?
[17:48:17] stuartm: yes
[17:48:33] wagnerrp: and you grab the full BDMV, or just individual titles?
[17:48:43] stuartm: either
[17:49:14] stuartm: whatever you choose, it will also strip out unwanted subtitles etc if requested
[17:49:38] stuartm: automatically too, e.g. I've got it configured to only keep the English subs/audio
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[20:08:14] boykillsworld1: I have a slight video quality issue with my HVR 1250 using qam on comcast cable I get a line about a fifth of they way from the top of the screen where the video does not line up. It is not that noticeable except with fast motion.
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[20:09:06] boykillsworld1: Running mythtv version 25.2 linux mint 13 with gnome 3 desktop
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[20:27:56] stuartm: that sounds like tearing, usually it's a bug in the video driver but can sometimes be eradicated by playing with driver settings, or disabling things like compiz, changing deinterlacers, resolution or most simply switching to an older or newer driver
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[21:32:19] boykillsworld1: Well kept playing with the video settings ffmpeg with xvideo with linear blend works for high def and vdpau with temporal 2X works with standard. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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[21:34:13] boykillsworld1: I cannot get vdpau to work in high def without severe tearing. I've had similar problems to this ever since they started with all the compiz effects on the desktops but there was usually a work around somewhere.
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[21:54:16] durin42: A week ago mythtv started listing all recorded shows twice, but neither recording is associated with an actual recorded file. Anyone ever seen behavior like this?
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[22:28:05] Diddy403: sup
[22:28:29] Diddy403: I need some halp with MythBuntu, anyone around?
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[23:05:45] boykillsworld1: Well Diddy I'm here. I am in here trying to fix some tearing but while I'm here what's your question?
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