MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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Wednesday, November 7th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:06] wagnerrp: but you would have to have time warner send a re-init to the cablecard before it would function
[00:00:33] wagnerrp: and you would still only be able to capture copy protected (read, everything) using windows media center
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[00:00:56] wagnerrp: since that device would refuse to send copy protected data to unlicensed applications such as mythtv
[00:00:57] annie: Well I'd rather not use WMC
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[00:01:42] wagnerrp: if you could use verizon, most channels short of the premiums tend to be marked copy freely (no DRM)
[00:01:55] wagnerrp: but i would expect TMC to be grouped in with the premium channels
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[00:05:02] annie: well fios is still unavailable, but thank you you've been a great help.
[00:05:32] annie: wagnerrp do you know anything about ATT Uverse?
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[00:07:00] wagnerrp: same effective problem as time warner
[00:07:15] wagnerrp: no way to record directly, you need to do analog capture off their box
[00:07:36] wagnerrp: same for any subscription satellite service (dish/direct)
[00:07:47] annie: Thanks, it seems that TWC only offers just enough more to keep you tied to them
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[00:38:02] ertyu_: I went through the airplay setup, I can see myth in iTunes, but it won't let me select it for output
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[01:14:58] ertyu_: my iPhone will select it, but still can't get anything to play on it
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[01:15:29] ertyu_: and it seems I can't even see myth after it auto-starts on boot, if I restart the fronted then it pops up as an airplay device
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[01:19:48] wagnerrp: sounds like you're starting your frontend before your network is available
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[01:30:56] justdave: so the new mythtv frontend on android appears to want to talk to the backend on port 6544... mine doesn't seem to be listening on that port, though it does look like it's the right version. Is that something that has to be newly configured?
[01:31:23] wagnerrp: no, mythtv has listened on port 6544 for as long as ive been using it
[01:32:28] justdave: ok, it claims it can't connect on that port, I didn't go look... maybe I misremembered the IP address of it
[01:32:44] ** justdave goes to look it up on one of the TV boxes **
[01:35:32] justdave: yep, I did, I transposed two digits :)
[01:38:08] justdave: although that didn't help, still says it can't connect
[01:38:25] justdave: it's still up and running, the box on the TV can talk to it
[01:43:54] justdave: aha, found a bug matching my symptoms on the issue tracker
[01:44:14] justdave: the Home button stops working if you back out to it from another scren (such as the settings screen)
[01:44:23] justdave: so if you quit the app and run it again it works
[01:44:26] justdave: (and indeed it does)
[01:44:30] ertyu_: wagnerrp, I assume that would explain why it doesn't appear until after restarting the frontend, does it explain why airplay doesn't work at all?
[01:44:43] wagnerrp: no idea
[01:45:46] ertyu_: why does linux do things in such a messed up way to make these things so complicated
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[16:43:22] xavierh: Hi
[16:43:59] xavierh: Does mythmetadatalookup does import userrating and catagory genre ?
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[16:46:22] xavierh: And is it visible somewhere on mythfrontend? do I need use a specific theme for that ?
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[17:34:01] stuartm: it doesn't *store* rating or category, the latter is usually provided by guide sources and can be displayed (up to theme)
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[17:37:52] xavierh: stuartm: thanks, the rating is not provided by my xml source anymore :( the category is there but I was hoping to be able to filter by the genre (Comedie, Drama .... My xml source buried it in the description
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[17:42:33] stuartm: xavierh: you're using RT yes? Category is still supplied as a separate field
[17:42:45] stuartm: s/category/genre/
[17:43:01] stuartm: I sort my recordings by genre
[17:43:58] xavierh: yes I am using RT. Whar do you mean by you sort your recording by genre ?
[17:44:05] stuartm: the loss of ratings is a real shame, personally I don't consider user ratings to be quite the same thing as the ratings RT gave which were based on their professional reviews
[17:44:36] stuartm: xavierh: in Watch Recordings, my recordings are grouped by genre (instead of the default of title)
[17:44:40] xavierh: I do agree but user rating is better than nothing at all
[17:46:00] xavierh: stuartm: I did know that one, thx a lot
[17:46:24] stuartm: xavierh: wouldn't take much to import rating/genre from tmdb/tvdb iff those fields were empty in the database, i.e. supplement poorer guide data without overwriting for those people who have that information already
[17:47:34] stuartm: "Menu (x2) > Change Group View > Show Categories"
[17:50:10] xavierh: stuartm: yes, I should have a look at this, at the moment I am fighting with dual languages in mythvide, some metadata are only available in my native language and the rest in english. I need to find a way to make the inetref unique
[17:51:05] xavierh: and agreegate multiple grabber in one
[17:51:19] xavierh: s/agreegate/proper spelling
[17:53:18] xavierh: Is it possible to grab data for not recorded yet program, feed the rating with the user ratting and schedule according to the rating ?
[17:53:38] xavierh: automatically
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[17:56:19] stuartm: are you using the TMDB v3 grabber?
[17:56:29] stuartm: xavierh: not currently possible
[17:57:10] stuartm: v3 grabber has better foreign language support
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[19:24:20] devinheitmueller: stuartm: to confirm your suspicions: indeed, the Elgato HD capture device isn't supported.
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[19:43:12] wizbit: why does mythweb keep on showing a stuck currently recording when its not arghghghghg
[19:43:28] wizbit: this is a fresh .26 install with a fresh db, so i think this must be a bug
[19:43:35] wizbit: if i restart the backend, it goes away
[19:45:22] dijonyummy: is there an easy way to install mythtv on ubuntu 12.10? apt-get mythtv vs mythbuntu?
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[19:48:55] jarle: wizbit: I have seen a lot of this in mythweb (I'm still running 0.25 though). Haven't looked into it...
[19:49:41] jarle: wizbit: I often have a long list of currently recording entries from several days back...
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[19:51:18] Unguided: Hello All. I have a question regarding diskless frontends. I found a wiki article but I was wondering if it is better to run the frontends with or without a hrad drive. Thanks in advance
[19:51:59] wagnerrp: entirely up to you
[19:52:19] wagnerrp: machines with a drive will boot faster, and may have slightly improved performance due to the local theme cache
[19:52:51] wagnerrp: machines without a drive will use less power, be quieter, smaller, cheaper, easier to manage in multiples
[19:52:51] Unguided: Well I have never set up a pxe server and I have different motherboards, video cards, etc. Do they all have to be the same hardware?
[19:53:06] wagnerrp: entirely up to you
[19:53:23] wagnerrp: with identical hardware, you can easily use one base install and configuration for all of them
[19:53:40] wagnerrp: with different hardware, it's a bit more complex to tailor each install for each individual machine
[19:54:25] Unguided: Ok.
[19:58:44] Unguided: Wagnerrp: One of the down sides is if you shut down the backend which would probably be the pxe server as well, would I take down all of the frontends with it?
[19:59:15] wagnerrp: if you shut down the backend, the frontends can't do anything anyway
[19:59:22] wagnerrp: so who cares
[19:59:57] Unguided: True I didnt thin of that. Thanks again
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[20:46:54] wizbit: jarle: ok if its a bug, i dont mind, i thought it might of been me only
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[20:56:10] achew22: I upgraded to 0.26 about 2 weeks ago and and everything has been going great except I can't get it to update the schedules anymore through mythfilldatabase
[20:56:13] achew22: has anyone run into this?
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[20:57:10] achew22: I run mythfill and it goes off to SD and downloads everything and tells me my account expires in 11 months and downloads a whole bunch of data, parses it and then says attempting to connect to master, succeeds (using protocol 75) and then it says mythfilldatabase run complete
[20:57:21] achew22: but when I go to mythweb there is no listing data
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[21:11:34] stuartm: you're the third person this week, delete the files from your tmp directory
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[21:28:59] wizbit: when i watched a recording of Eastenders my screen froze for 2 seconds, then it carried on fine. should this be of concern?
[21:29:24] stuartm: the freeze no, the programme either side of it ... huge concern
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[21:29:33] wizbit: LOL
[21:35:27] stuartm: wizbit: probability a minor discontinuity in the recording, can happen with broadcast TV, only worth worrying about if it happens a lot
[21:36:26] wizbit: ok thanks, on the whole, mythtv is working well
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[21:43:02] justinh: well, so much for wireless printers eh.. already had to dig out a USB cable & install drivers & stuff :-\
[21:43:47] wagnerrp: serves you right for trying to use a static device like a printer wirelessly... :P
[21:44:13] wagnerrp: no ethernet jack?
[21:44:14] justinh: I thought a little battery pack, an inverter.. and a big shoulder bag...
[21:44:24] justinh: nah this printer was *cheap*
[21:44:32] justinh: I resent having to buy one at all
[21:44:56] justinh: the last printer we had was working just fine, when I remembered to print stuff out & bring it home from work
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[21:47:16] stuartm: I've got a very cheap wireless epson downstairs which worked out of the box, no drivers, no cables (except for power, obviously), not even firmware required
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[21:47:52] stuartm: as with all these things it's going to vary from device to device, and with wireless from building to building
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[22:04:00] justinh: mine is also a very very cheap Epson. Unfortunately with no way to tell it about my network.. I had to install the God awful software
[22:04:53] justinh: top marks go to them for their stupid "Setting up a WiFi" dialog though
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[22:06:05] justinh: knew i shouldn't have done this on my own laptop. That's what wives laptops are for. Sacrificial
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[22:34:11] xavierh: stuartm: I do have the "Show category" option but I was looking for "Show genre" or something like that... unless I misunderstood something?
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[22:41:49] stuartm: there's no difference between category and genre?
[22:43:16] stuartm: at least externally, there is one internally but the user doesn't really get to see that, in the UI category=genre or vice versa
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[23:49:07] justinh: stuartm: you know all those slowness issues I was having? I'm running LinHES on my frontend now.. and it's like ummm... as speedy as as virgin new system .. it's as it should be now
[23:49:42] justinh: doing battle with xrandr to set tvout parameters & not having much joy but OMG, this is like mythtv used to be
[23:49:51] justinh: quick to play recordings, quick to go back to the menus..
[23:50:00] justinh: I dunno wth the other OS was doing
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[23:53:52] jarryd: is it easier to run mythtv in a linuxvm to get it to work with a usb tuner on osx?
[23:54:18] justinh: nothing is easier than running mythtv on proper linux on a real machine
[23:54:40] justinh: everything else.. you still have to deal with the LINUX part
[23:54:56] justinh: and then with the added complication of getting USB devices to pass through etc
[23:57:27] ** jarryd tries **

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