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| [00:40:14] | rhpot1991: | Since updating to 0.26 about 1/3rd of my commflag jobs fail with status code 140, hdhr and hdhr-prime |
| [00:40:33] | rhpot1991: | seems to be common with my nbc, and sometimes fx and espn |
| [00:41:00] | rhpot1991: | I know there is a bug about this saying to wait for a new version of ffmpeg, in the mean time is there any additional information I can provide? |
| [00:41:53] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: i never understood why someone would want cue sheets |
| [00:42:17] | wagnerrp: | as far as i can tell, the only value to having one is if you want to rebuild the original disc |
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| [01:13:46] | bill6502: | Anyone else building master notice that git describe now shows v0.26-pre-1337-g5c83374, not 0.27? I just removed everything and re-cloned from github, but it still shows 0.26. |
| [01:14:13] | prologic: | wagnerrp, according to the specs, it's Intel Graphics HD 4000 – which is the same as the backend/frontend unit I built myself here at home |
| [01:15:21] | wagnerrp: | huh, they updated them again |
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| [01:15:40] | wagnerrp: | last time, they switched from discrete nvidia to discrete amd |
| [01:15:50] | wagnerrp: | seems this time they dropped discrete graphics all together |
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| [01:19:49] | prologic: | yup |
| [01:19:56] | prologic: | so like I say, I think it should be fine as a frontend |
| [01:20:04] | prologic: | it's the same gpu (slightly ebtter) than the one I use now |
| [01:20:56] | prologic: | only downside to a Mac mini as I see it, is it has no dvd/bd drive – you have to get an external one |
| [01:22:31] | prologic: | https://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_pag . . . n=wish_lists |
| [01:22:41] | prologic: | What do you think about this as a new frontend only machine? |
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| [01:56:17] | wagnerrp: | not like there's really a need for a dvd/bd drive |
| [01:57:06] | wagnerrp: | if it's a rental, better to get stand-alone player |
| [01:57:20] | wagnerrp: | if it's a purchase, just have one drive on your backend to rip the content with |
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| [05:24:14] | yuurei: | i am having problems getting the mythtv frontend, says the tuners are available but the tuners aren' |
| [05:24:57] | yuurei: | t being used. the system status says mythfildatabase or something may not be running? |
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| [05:29:11] | [R]: | what? |
| [05:29:19] | waxhead: | where is the xml config file location set? |
| [05:29:46] | [R]: | waxhead: what? |
| [05:30:20] | waxhead: | [R], just having problems populating the guide data having updated the channels again... |
| [05:30:30] | waxhead: | [R], and I'm using shepherd... |
| [05:30:43] | waxhead: | something doesn't appear to be working correctly.. |
| [05:33:39] | waxhead: | this is the error I'm seeing: |
| [05:33:40] | waxhead: | http://pastebin.com/7ZGG0vmR |
| [05:34:31] | [R]: | no clue how the au grabber works |
| [05:34:36] | yuurei: | you are talking to waxhead ? |
| [05:35:13] | waxhead: | [R], fair enough, it's noted on the wiki it's not support by the myth devs |
| [05:35:40] | waxhead: | just struggling to get the icons and guide data imported |
| [05:37:11] | [R]: | pretty sure data is infintely more important then icons |
| [05:39:05] | waxhead: | [R], for sure.. |
| [05:39:10] | waxhead: | data is a real problem |
| [05:39:19] | waxhead: | after updating the channels, the guide data is all wrong |
| [05:39:33] | waxhead: | I have guide data for the wrong channels |
| [05:39:45] | [R]: | sounds like the xmltvid is wrong |
| [05:39:47] | waxhead: | I'm expecting that shepherd would update it correct |
| [05:40:05] | waxhead: | [R], could be... |
| [05:40:32] | waxhead: | hence I'm googling and not getting anywhere... :( |
| [05:40:53] | yuurei: | whoever gets to this, it is saying in system status that has no guide data available and mythfilldatabase may not be running |
| [05:41:20] | waxhead: | yuurei, have you run mythfilldatabase from the commandline? |
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| [05:41:49] | waxhead: | ok.. I have to head out now... |
| [05:41:51] | yuurei: | how you do that? |
| [05:41:55] | waxhead: | back later |
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| [05:42:51] | yuurei: | i havent touched this box for a little while so i forgot a lot of stuff |
| [05:44:26] | yuurei: | would love to get mythtv working so i can use another front end to make the theload on the spu less |
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| [07:10:44] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: From my understanding it comes in handy when you have an album that is one continuous mix but has different songs/tracks. Basically the same as chapter marks on DVDs. Some people like to keep them when they rip their movies to mkv. |
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| [07:12:58] | dekarl: | A side effect is that you can later generate a cdid and look up the disc at musicbrainz. In a connect a music library to proper metadata years after ripping use case. (no funky audio fingerprings involved) |
| [07:14:44] | dekarl: | ^- YMMV but we must pay the license fee that allows us to do that. Its just nice when you get something in return ;) |
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| [07:21:32] | somethinginteres: | If I have multiple tuners do I need to setup more than one video source or can I assign the same video source to both and have the cards work as expected? |
| [07:22:44] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: you need one video source per every distinct set of tuneable channels. |
| [07:23:25] | dekarl: | so if both cards get the same channels on the same frequencies and are of the same kind (e.g. both DVB-S or both DVB-T) they can use the same video source. |
| [07:24:38] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: yeah same frequencies etc. Cool just wanted to check. |
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| [08:05:02] | prologic: | wagnerrp, whilst I agree – you often get in situations where friends have come over with their kids and bring a dvd/brd – so you have to be prepared :) |
| [08:05:18] | prologic: | just having a media drive on your main frontend (the one with the big screen) is a good idea I think |
| [08:05:31] | prologic: | MythTV 0.25+ supports BD playback right? |
| [08:05:38] | prologic: | at least I see support for it in the release notes |
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| [08:24:02] | dekarl: | prologic: I think its for decrypted disks/images only :/ |
| [08:25:41] | prologic: | hmm really? |
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| [08:34:30] | dekarl: | prologic: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/High_Definition_Di . . . ion_Material says it works with encrypted disks, too. but you have to <insert hoops to jump through here> |
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| [08:37:41] | somethinginteres: | Is there an easy way to find out what a show is conflicting with? |
| [08:41:57] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: using mythweb or frontend? |
| [08:42:16] | dekarl: | just tick all boxes and look whats recording at the same time (mythweb) |
| [08:43:58] | dekarl: | its not easy to say "is recording with <this>" because the scheduler shuffles stuff around to avoid conlicts so the answer might be a complex chain of (resolvable) conflicts that lead to one unresolveable conflict |
| [08:44:12] | dekarl: | s/recording/conflicting/ |
| [08:44:33] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: haven't used mythweh before |
| [08:48:51] | dekarl: | the list of upcoming recordings in the frontend should be similar... |
| [08:49:43] | dekarl: | are you using shephard or EIT data? better EIT fixups might help the scheduler identify multiple showings of the same episode and shuffle around more ;) |
| [08:51:00] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: man this mythweb is awesome. I wonder why it's not installed by default? |
| [08:52:10] | dekarl: | ask your distibutions packager :) attention, its not so well maintained at the moment and editing recording rules >0.25 is not really working 100% |
| [08:53:07] | somethinginteres: | dekarl, |
| [08:53:10] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: I see |
| [08:53:31] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: well it helped me resolve the conflict but I think it'd be handy to have a more meaningful message on frontend |
| [08:54:11] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: as you say it's complex but yeah |
| [08:56:04] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: tried to play a recording "1021_20121031103400.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host." |
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| [09:09:41] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: no idea wrt the recording. does the file exist? "find / -name 1021_20121031103400.mpg" |
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| [09:59:24] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: yep it exists |
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| [11:07:17] | lapion: | does anyone have any experience using suspend as a powersaving tool for the backend ? |
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| [21:42:56] | lautriv: | hey there, what might be a reason to not load firmware ? on my master i have this --> http://pastebin.com/DYiBacVg where the same card on a slave has the same card (and cx24116 also loaded) but no word in dmesg. |
| [21:43:28] | [R]: | lautriv: what? |
| [21:44:04] | lautriv: | [R], master loads firmware, as shown in dmesg. a slave with the same card doesn't |
| [21:44:18] | [R]: | does the card work? |
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| [21:44:41] | lautriv: | [R], in the past yes, actually not b/c this issue. |
| [21:44:52] | [R]: | so whats the problem |
| [21:45:12] | lautriv: | [R], it should load that damn firmware ? |
| [21:45:28] | [R]: | if the card works, its loading the firmware |
| [21:45:38] | ** [R] goes back to ** | |
| [21:45:42] | [R]: | [02:44:47] [R] so whats the problem |
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| [21:46:12] | lautriv: | [R], the one without firmware-load doesn't work ( it did in the past, wehn it loaded firmware) |
| [21:46:24] | [R]: | make up your mind |
| [21:46:26] | [R]: | i asked if it works |
| [21:46:27] | [R]: | you say yes |
| [21:46:29] | [R]: | now you say itdoesnt |
| [21:46:36] | [R]: | this is a problem with your dist and has nothing to do with mythtv |
| [21:46:42] | lautriv: | <lautriv> [R], in the past yes, actually not b/c this issue. |
| [21:46:56] | lautriv: | in the PAST not PRESENT |
| [21:49:10] | lautriv: | [R], actually it's a problem with one of kernel-module or firmware. the firmware is identical to the working box, also size and permissions, and it works on the same kernel. reason why i ask. |
| [21:49:31] | knightr: | lautriv, if you updated the kernel and/or drivers maybe it needs a new firmware (same thing happened for the HVR-2200/HVR-2250 drivers in the past).. You might want to seek help on #linuxtv for this... |
| [21:50:45] | lautriv: | knightr, i thought about this but then it should complain about missing firmware files. |
| [21:51:21] | knightr: | lautriv, normally yes... |
| [21:51:43] | knightr: | Does it create a device? |
| [21:54:18] | lautriv: | no, device-creation follows module-load. |
| [21:58:45] | lautriv: | will see if someone in #linuxtv may shed some light in ... |
| [21:59:05] | knightr: | the message seems to suggest it did load the firmware though.... |
| [21:59:12] | knightr: | yep. that's your best bet... |
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| [21:59:53] | knightr: | the driver author doesn't seem to be in the channel but I am pretty sure somebody there could help you track down the problem... |
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| [22:00:32] | lautriv: | knightr, this message is from the working master, slave has the same cards and don't mention it at all. |
| [22:00:54] | knightr: | ah, ok... |
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| [22:10:16] | justTom: | Hi all, recently bought a Ceton InfiniTV Cablecard tuner only to learn that I didn't do all of my home work and my Cable provider (TimeWarner) marks nearly all of its content as Copy Once |
| [22:10:28] | justTom: | This pretty much makes using this tuner with Myth useless |
| [22:10:48] | justTom: | Trying to come up with ideas on how to use this card or sell it |
| [22:11:27] | justTom: | Only thing I can come up with is to build a Windows box and put the card in and then share it over the network with my Myth box |
| [22:11:29] | lautriv: | knightr, digged a bit deeper and found this -->http://pastebin.com/7A7xuiMk |
| [22:11:49] | justTom: | Anyone know if Windows Media Center plays well with Myth? |
| [22:12:24] | [R]: | justTom: plays? |
| [22:12:31] | justTom: | or, better, since the Ceton is networkable, can I put it in the windows box, and share the tuner with Myth getting past the DRM? |
| [22:12:40] | [R]: | of course not |
| [22:12:43] | [R]: | that would defeat the purpose of the drm |
| [22:13:01] | justTom: | |R| – yeah, just brainstorming I guess |
| [22:13:36] | justTom: | I've never seen Windows Media Center – can it stream to other devices? |
| [22:16:50] | [R]: | other locked down microsoft devices |
| [22:18:13] | justTom: | Hmm, sounds like I need to sell this card... |
| [22:18:55] | justTom: | Many, this makes me crazy. I was super phyched about buying this and because TimeWarner feels like setting a DRM on their stuff |
| [22:19:05] | justTom: | that I pay for – my hardware is useless |
| [22:19:14] | justTom: | ARGH! |
| [22:19:58] | justTom: | Only other option in my area is DirecTV – anyone around use DirecTV with Myth? |
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| [22:22:10] | [R]: | i do |
| [22:22:16] | [R]: | but you gotta capture off the box |
| [22:22:24] | [R]: | you cant tune it directly |
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| [22:32:08] | justTom: | |R|: Can you control it wiht Firewire or USB or something or do you have to use an IRBlaster? |
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| [22:49:50] | lautriv: | knightr, solved :) this slave lost the module for the SEC controller for some reason ( i observed a make oldconfig doesn't obey all former settings ) |
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| [23:00:15] | lucgallant: | Hello everyone |
| [23:00:32] | [R]: | justTom: i use network control |
| [23:00:54] | lucgallant: | I've just struggled for 5 hours trying to get my HVR-2250 to work... I think I did, but I have a simple questions that will clarify it fo rme |
| [23:01:25] | lucgallant: | When you add a new MPEG-2 Capture Card and you go to scan for new channels, what is it supposed to look like when it scans for analog channels? |
| [23:01:51] | lucgallant: | For me, nothing scans at all and it claims it does not find any new channels.... But if I retrieve the channels from the listings, I can go and play them. |
| [23:02:10] | [R]: | you shoudlnt be scanning analog channels |
| [23:02:15] | lucgallant: | !!!! |
| [23:02:20] | lucgallant: | Last 5 hours, wasted... lol |
| [23:02:46] | lucgallant: | not one word of a lie... I compiled the V4L drivers, reinstalled, etc etc... for nothing. |
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| [23:03:38] | [R]: | rofl |
| [23:04:19] | lucgallant: | ... I'm doing a mythfilldatabase now in order to truly confirm whether I wasted all my time... |
| [23:05:00] | lucgallant: | I was a part of mythtv in about 2005, and I recall being able to scan for analog channels... Just like on a TV? |
| [23:06:00] | [R]: | notice i never said can't |
| [23:06:02] | [R]: | i said shouldn't |
| [23:06:28] | lucgallant: | I see... so is it still something that should work if I do it? |
| [23:06:49] | [R]: | why would you |
| [23:06:50] | [R]: | is the quetsion |
| [23:07:11] | lucgallant: | well, I guess I'm just trying to give meaning to the wasted time at this point? |
| [23:07:29] | [R]: | you had fun didnt yuou |
| [23:07:30] | [R]: | lol |
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| [23:10:37] | lucgallant: | it's confirmed, the guide works and I can watch tv. |
| [23:10:53] | lucgallant: | a few performance issues, but I'll work on that later. |
| [23:10:55] | lucgallant: | geeeeez |
| [23:12:30] | lautriv: | lucgallant, what's your location ? |
| [23:13:06] | lucgallant: | Fort McMurray, Alberta |
| [23:13:10] | lucgallant: | ... Canada |
| [23:13:34] | lautriv: | ah, i wondered where in the world are still analog senders ;) |
| [23:14:06] | lucgallant: | There's a bunch of forum discussions on people needing to configure the analog/digital tuners as part of a Group due to driver issues, etc... Not sure if that was required or not? |
| [23:14:38] | lucgallant: | lol yes... Well, that and us being too cheap for digital cable, and also in Canada they encrypt all of it so I'd have to go for some firewire setup, I thought I'd try this |
| [23:14:55] | lucgallant: | but after troubleshooting in 1080p for half a day, analog cable is pretty hideous! |
| [23:17:45] | dekarl: | lautriv: everyone who is on cable and not allowed to use third party decoders will be interested in analogue capture in one way or another. (either direct analogue SD capture or capturing from some provider's custom STB analogue output) |
| [23:19:21] | lautriv: | dekarl, i'm from europe, there was a complete analog shutdown in April ;) |
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| [23:20:05] | dekarl: | lautriv: are you sure wrt cable? I thought that was satelite |
| [23:20:34] | dekarl: | e.g. Unitymedia does not support using their smart cards in random CAMs with MythTV |
| [23:20:42] | lautriv: | dekarl, can't tell for sure because i was used to DVB years before. |
| [23:21:26] | lucgallant: | Nice to know I'm living in the past... |
| [23:22:17] | lautriv: | next step is SAT>IP which will remove DVB. |
| [23:23:04] | lucgallant: | I just confirmed that my time was 100% wasted, I never did have to do the tuner group workarounds with the digital etc etc... It worked right out of the box. I will post on the forum that channel scanning is unnecessary. |
| [23:23:07] | lucgallant: | (for analog) |
| [23:23:11] | dekarl: | KAbel Deutschland only allows certified devices on their network, too |
| [23:23:16] | lucgallant: | Thanks for the tip! |
| [23:23:55] | lautriv: | dekarl, i guess they can be faked. |
| [23:23:59] | dekarl: | lautriv: how does SAT>IP replace DVB? |
| [23:24:34] | dekarl: | lautriv: violation of your providers terms of service is off limits around here... |
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| [23:25:29] | lautriv: | dekarl, from what i read, it'll bundle streams to ports like one does on regular TCP/IP, plan is to free resources. (advertised on ASTRA, test is online ) |
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| [23:27:33] | dekarl: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-IP and astra.de hint that it is all about devices similar to HD Homerun. You feed it DVB-S(2) and get IP out |
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| [23:30:13] | lautriv: | dekarl, have no link handy but what i read was more like mega-wireless ( SAT sends the complete broadcast on IP where you selct by port ) |
| [23:31:57] | dekarl: | lautriv: I see. But thats unlikely given that they'd have to transmit every channel twice (once as plain DVB and another copy as "TV" in IP in DVB). |
| [23:32:30] | dekarl: | either way. looking forward to network attached sat receiver (instead of pci boards) |
| [23:33:29] | lautriv: | dekarl, i assume it will be default in a bunch of years, however i don't look much tv ( but my family) and so it's not that important as long as there is a shutdown-warning ;) |
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| [23:42:38] | lautriv: | how to get rid of old messages from scheduler ? |
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