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| [00:32:34] | skd5aner: | justinh: just upgraded to 12.10 last night |
| [00:34:34] | justinh: | I might change distro. dunno how much pain updating to 12.04 & then getting rid of unity will be |
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| [00:35:18] | justinh: | though I may be able to avoid that by getting rid of gnome-desktop before I start.. e.g. go to xfce or whatever |
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| [00:51:31] | PSU: | i think i found my issue with the 4-digit channels...don't think they are supported on anything older than mythtv 0.25...sound right? |
| [00:52:12] | skd5aner: | no? |
| [00:52:26] | skd5aner: | 4-digit channels have been supported for as long back as I can remember |
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| [00:53:13] | PSU: | hmm...wonder why it's not being picked up then. schedules direct lists the channels in the 1000's. |
| [00:53:27] | PSU: | i can tune it fine on windows media player or whatever it's called in win7 |
| [00:53:33] | skd5aner: | justinh: I've always ran ubuntu server for my mythtv boxes, since I don't use them for any other purposes... |
| [00:53:45] | skd5aner: | justinh: then, I just install the packages necessary |
| [00:53:50] | PSU: | http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.ph . . . 645fd939fb56 |
| [00:54:07] | PSU: | "MythTV should support 4 digits, but since 0.24 had a somewhat convoluted way to get channels into the system" |
| [00:54:09] | skd5aner: | justinh: or, go the easy way, and get the mythbuntu distro |
| [00:54:12] | PSU: | what's the convoluted way? :) |
| [00:54:14] | IReboot: | justinh: FYI: There are Ubuntu based distro's that do not have Unity. Two are http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/ and http://linuxmint.com/rel_maya_whatsnew.php |
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| [00:55:10] | skd5aner: | PSU: from a prime? perhaps... it wasn't officially supported until 0.25, and had several workarounds in 0.24 |
| [00:55:41] | PSU: | yeah i'm using the Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 Dual Tuner CableCARD Receiver... |
| [00:55:47] | PSU: | basically a prime (i think) |
| [00:55:54] | skd5aner: | justinh: I don't use unity |
| [00:56:06] | PSU: | skd5aner: so would you recommend upgrading to 0.25? |
| [00:56:36] | skd5aner: | justinh: I've used fvwm2 for about 8 years, and just recently switched from gdm to lightdm for the launcher |
| [00:56:56] | skd5aner: | PSU: Yes... 0.25 is pretty dang robust |
| [00:57:14] | PSU: | skd5aner: okay, been holding off as i'm still running mythdora :/ |
| [00:57:17] | skd5aner: | PSU: I normally would recommend to upgrade to the latest, which is 0.26 currently, but unfortunately, I can't |
| [00:57:51] | skd5aner: | 0.26 has basically no new features, and actually has several regressions for me in terms of performance and playback... so, the tradeoff isn't worth it |
| [00:58:36] | PSU: | okay, thanks for the input...i will do some research on updating mythdora; i know it's not fully supported but people have done it |
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| [00:58:58] | skd5aner: | PSU: yea... I think Mythdora's gone a bit stale |
| [00:59:00] | skd5aner: | from what I've heard |
| [00:59:17] | PSU: | yup |
| [00:59:28] | skd5aner: | might be a good excuse to switch to mythbuntu if you aren't using that machine for anything else, like a desktop |
| [00:59:46] | wylie: | i can't remember who wrote the Myth python bindings — if around I have a quick question |
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| [00:59:56] | skd5aner: | just backup the db, and install it on the new image |
| [01:00:08] | skd5aner: | wylie: wagnerrp did |
| [01:01:06] | wylie: | ah, that's right, ty. wagnerrp pls poke me if you happen to see this and have a moment |
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| [01:03:07] | justinh: | IReboot: I'm well aware of linuxmint. Which is why I now use Kubuntu at work :-) |
| [01:03:22] | justinh: | Kubuntu isn't all that bad, but the file manager thing takes some getting used to |
| [01:03:33] | wagnerrp: | ? |
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| [01:05:57] | justinh: | why *does* ubuntu have unity anyway? is it some kind of hope a lot of users can be converted? I've only ever met one person who liked it – and even he was persuaded to ditch it when he saw how fast ordinary Gnome was on his machine |
| [01:06:48] | wagnerrp: | wylie? |
| [01:07:03] | justinh: | I found its split-personality-ness a bit strange. Made an ubuntu USB stick.. run a desktop machine up & you got gnome.. boot a laptop with it & you got Unity |
| [01:08:22] | justinh: | skd5aner: I do sometimes use the backend as a desktop machine, for doing private stuff when I'm at work |
| [01:08:35] | justinh: | pretty rare though, and then it's only freenx over ssh |
| [01:10:37] | justinh: | it'd be real nice to encounter a desktop linux which doesn't come with bloat like *Office |
| [01:13:40] | justinh: | then again, I'm a gonna be master of remastering *buntu soon. Have to, for my job :-\ |
| [01:13:57] | wylie: | heya |
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| [01:40:16] | MrShakeTouchpad: | evenin gents |
| [01:40:30] | MrShakeTouchpad: | ive got shows claiming to be recording but are not |
| [01:40:59] | MrShakeTouchpad: | logs are not telling me much, here is a paste of when the show should start |
| [01:41:02] | MrShakeTouchpad: | http://pastebin.com/PNkwZ7cZ |
| [01:41:18] | MrShakeTouchpad: | dual tuner hdhomerun using ota channels |
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| [01:53:44] | MrShakeTouchpad: | lookingbaround... i still see last weeks episode listed as "Still Recording" |
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| [02:15:41] | wagnerrp: | i love it when TV show writers have a complete lack of grasp with reality |
| [02:16:21] | wagnerrp: | blackout happens, limo stalls, a few seconds later a semi crashes into them at full speed |
| [02:16:36] | wagnerrp: | except... semis all use air brakes |
| [02:16:54] | wagnerrp: | meaning in the event of a failure, they clamp down tight |
| [02:17:05] | wagnerrp: | trailer stops as fast as physics allows |
| [02:18:01] | ertyu-m: | I imagine the reservoir would have pressure for several minutes |
| [02:18:47] | wagnerrp: | yes, but nothing keeps the valves to the brakes open |
| [02:19:11] | wagnerrp: | solenoids lose power, and the brakes clamp shut |
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| [09:38:38] | somethinginteres: | Got a USB tuner that can record two shows at once. Two tuners listed in Info Centre /frontend0 – Myth says can't record b/c of conflict w/ another show but it's only one show recording. The second tuner should kick in and record the other program, yes? |
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| [09:49:15] | lapion: | somethinginteres, digital usb tuner ? |
| [09:49:46] | somethinginteres: | lapion: yeah |
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| [09:51:55] | lapion: | try using stopping the mythbackend and running me-tv from command line setting each a different tuner . |
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| [10:05:14] | somethinginteres: | lapion: says no DVB available. afik backend is stopped |
| [10:06:37] | lapion: | somethinginteres, make sure all instances of the backend are killed "sudo kill -9 `pgrep backend`" |
| [10:08:18] | somethinginteres: | lapion: "sudo kill -9 3422: command not found" |
| [10:08:53] | lapion: | are you sure the tuner is digital ? |
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| [10:09:19] | lapion: | somethinginteres, do ls /dev/dvb/* |
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| [10:10:02] | somethinginteres: | lapion: adapter0 |
| [10:10:27] | somethinginteres: | lapion: sorry, "demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 |
| [10:10:27] | somethinginteres: | " |
| [10:10:48] | somethinginteres: | lapion: it's a Leadtek Winfast DVB Gold \ |
| [10:14:27] | lapion: | somethinginteres, it's a simple single dvb tuner.. |
| [10:16:42] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: if its a dual tuner you need to add it twice in mythtv-setup. The two (logical) tuners you see is due to the default of "two" multirec recordings on one (physical) tuner |
| [10:17:33] | somethinginteres: | dekarl, lapion: I see. I tried to add it twice and it wouldn't allow it. Just kept returning me to the capture card screen with only frontend0 listed there |
| [10:17:35] | dekarl: | and wrt mythtv-setup not recognizing a dvb device, you might be experiencing a kernel driver bug, see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10830 |
| [10:17:54] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: you should actually have adapter0 and adapter1 |
| [10:18:33] | somethinginteres: | dekarl: on the list or when I do ls /dev/dvb/* |
| [10:18:50] | dekarl: | when doing ls /dev/dvb |
| [10:19:08] | dekarl: | I'm not sure what its called in mythtv-setup |
| [10:22:31] | dekarl: | somethinginteres: I'm not sure that its a dual tuner device (after looking it up on linuxtv and leadtek's site) maybe they are talking about multirec, too |
| [10:22:42] | lapion: | somethinginteres, only thing you should be able to do is set it up for multiple recording on the same channel ( there are multiple video streams on each frequency) but then you can one record multiple programs within the same group) |
| [10:23:44] | somethinginteres: | lapion: damn, I was told it could record multiple channels. Might have to buy another one. Would two tuners still show under "tuner status" if it was a single one? |
| [10:25:02] | somethinginteres: | lapion: I also wonder if there's a way if I bought another one to somehow plug both into the one aerial port. |
| [10:25:38] | lapion: | somethinginteres, on dvb there are multiple channels grouped and transmitted on the same wavelength, so as long as the channels are on the same wavelength you can record multiple channels at the same time |
| [10:25:59] | lapion: | getting a second dvb-stick/card or whatever should solve the problem |
| [10:28:24] | somethinginteres: | lapion: cool. Mystery solved. Thanks. I am going to fish around for my old Compro T300 |
| [10:32:15] | lapion: | somethinginteres, you can however record from up to 5 channels from the same wavlength at the same time ;-P |
| [10:45:18] | somethinginteres: | lapion: awesome |
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| [12:17:42] | vojta111: | Hi, i have short question. Is there any place in mythtv where I can get a list of currently tuned channels for dvb-s and their tuning details (transport frequency etc.) ? I am using mythtv 0.25 |
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| [13:42:35] | dekarl: | vojta111: I'm not sure what "currently tuned channels" is. The list of all known transports can be seen transport editor inside the channel editor in mythtv-setup. |
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| [13:47:33] | vojta111: | I mean channels that are already added |
| [13:48:26] | dekarl: | hmm, it depends. what are you trying to do? |
| [13:48:38] | vojta111: | I just need to somehow find out what is their current transport frequency etc. |
| [13:49:29] | dekarl: | depending on what you intend to do with that information it might be easier to write a small script that uses the bindings |
| [13:50:07] | vojta111: | Because there has been some changes of frequency in my provider so i need to know whether they are already set up according their new frequency, or they are Ind |
| [13:50:16] | dekarl: | e.g. I've got a short perl script lying around to debug DVB ONID/TSID/SID tripples, that can be easily adapted to instead show the frequency |
| [13:52:31] | dekarl: | vojta111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1320805/ |
| [13:52:59] | vojta111: | Thanks. So there is no easy way how to find it out, right? I am not really good with scripts. |
| [13:53:59] | dekarl: | it sounds like you want a list to compare to some other list. this script will give you such a list and already prints out the frequency :) |
| [13:56:01] | vojta111: | Allright i try this out. This is exactly what i need. Thanks a lot for your help, dekarl |
| [13:56:17] | dekarl: | y/w |
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| [19:22:34] | Kryspy: | question about mythlink..... after an upgrade of storage now when mythlink runs it doesn't delete and recreate entries. If "NameofSomeShow.mpg" was present I woulod now get another symlink "NameofSomeShow2.mpg" etc every time mythlink runs. Any ideas. I assume it's some kind of a permuissions problem but honestly I am beside myself with this. |
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| [19:32:07] | karacho: | hey guys. i'm having problems with stuttering live-tv playback in 0.26 on arch linux. frontend and backend on the same machine. does anyone know if this has been fixed in git master? |
| [19:33:03] | karacho: | can be "fixed" by pausing live tv for a second... but it's still a bit annoying. |
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| [20:06:35] | jams: | karacho- it's been talked about..but I don't knwo the answer |
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| [20:14:37] | wizbit: | nothing quite beats the feeling to waking up in the morning to a responsive backend what produced clean logs :-) |
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| [21:06:26] | Kryspy: | anyone have an answer ? |
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| [23:09:57] | comingatyoubro: | Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2012-10–30 22:42:05 and ended on 2012-10–30 22:42:53. mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources. This can indicate a potential grabber failure. |
| [23:10:04] | comingatyoubro: | Searched all over the web with possible fixes |
| [23:10:17] | comingatyoubro: | works fine from the command line, running as sudo -u mythtv mythfilldatabase |
| [23:10:31] | comingatyoubro: | the automated process won't work, and it's not logging either in /var/log/mythtv |
| [23:12:00] | mzb is now known as mzb_ | |
| [23:12:33] | dekarl: | comingatyoubro: you are using xmltv? The configuration file is with the correct user? e.g. stored as ~mythtv/.mythtv/<name of source>.xmltv ? |
| [23:13:25] | comingatyoubro: | ooh it did log recently... i'll check that now though |
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| [23:14:18] | comingatyoubro: | i don't see that file there dekarl |
| [23:14:40] | comingatyoubro: | or in my other user account |
| [23:14:52] | comingatyoubro: | mythtv v0.25 ubuntu 12.0.1 |
| [23:16:27] | dekarl: | comingatyoubro: are you using xmltv or schedulesdirect? (it appears your IP might be in Cananda hinting at schedules direct which works differently) |
| [23:16:35] | comingatyoubro: | schedulesdirect |
| [23:18:13] | dekarl: | no idea then. there's been some talk lately about permission issues with temporary files if you ran mythfilldatabase as root once |
| [23:18:33] | comingatyoubro: | http://pastebin.com/NkfTXCkd |
| [23:18:41] | comingatyoubro: | i did run it as root once |
| [23:18:44] | dekarl: | starting at http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /339675.html |
| [23:18:55] | comingatyoubro: | but weird that i can run it as sudo -u mythtv and it works |
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| [23:19:24] | comingatyoubro: | that pastebin is most recent log if you care to look :) |
| [23:19:42] | dekarl: | its not telling much :( |
| [23:19:55] | dekarl: | but the relevant checks/debug output was only added lately |
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| [23:21:53] | dekarl: | btw "mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide" is perfectly normal when you run it multiple times. Its basically checking if the farthest program changed. |
| [23:22:54] | comingatyoubro: | but only guide data for 13 days |
| [23:22:56] | comingatyoubro: | shouldn't it have 14? |
| [23:23:02] | comingatyoubro: | let me check previous runs in the log |
| [23:23:12] | comingatyoubro: | maybe it fixed itself after a reboot i just did recently |
| [23:23:19] | comingatyoubro: | i've had this problem for weeks though |
| [23:23:41] | comingatyoubro: | it got down to 1 day and that's when i noticed it last week |
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| [23:25:06] | comingatyoubro: | haha i think you're right |
| [23:25:26] | comingatyoubro: | i assumed it was still broken, but it appears fixed after a reboot on 10/27 |
| [23:25:49] | comingatyoubro: | now, time to upgrade to v0.26 |
| [23:25:51] | comingatyoubro: | :) |
| [23:27:38] | dekarl: | :) |
| [23:28:02] | dekarl: | should be 28+ days if you ask me ;) |
| [23:28:59] | comingatyoubro: | i think it's set for 14 days for schedulesdirect... maybe i can put it further back |
| [23:31:02] | dekarl: | appears to usualy be 14 days |
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| [23:32:25] | wagnerrp: | if it were 28+ days, there would be zombies |
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| [23:33:07] | gizmobay: | Anyone here using a pvr150 with 0.26? |
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| [23:36:29] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: I get 6–8 weeks regularly but it has its fair share of TBD entries :) |
| [23:37:06] | wagnerrp: | whoosh |
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