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[00:09:27] | Gibby: | can anyone help me with nvidia overscan settings in new nvidia drivers, a little behind in the upgrade process lol, I found how to do it on the command line and think it should work but I get an error http://pastebin.com/m99Bve9P |
[00:09:59] | wagnerrp: | don't bother, just use the display wizard in the frontend |
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[00:10:55] | Gibby: | wagnerrp, i tried that but it didn't adjust for some reason, let me try again |
[00:11:36] | wagnerrp: | there is a slight bug in it, you can't adjust it once set |
[00:11:40] | wagnerrp: | you must reset and start over |
[00:12:10] | wagnerrp: | has to do with the UI being incapable of drawing the reference arrows outside its own borders |
[00:12:22] | wagnerrp: | so the coordinate mapping is wrong |
[00:16:51] | Gibby: | ok, i reset under general/appearance, set the pixels and offset back to 0, did the screen wizard, and it shrunk the screen to small and made it off center |
[00:17:07] | Gibby: | overscan used to be so easy lol, guess that is what i get for not upgrading in almost 2 years |
[00:19:49] | wagnerrp: | small and off center is typically from using the screen wizard twice without resetting first |
[00:20:15] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, it must be used from a zeroed configuration, or else the coordinate mapping is wrong |
[00:20:37] | wagnerrp: | get it close, and then fine tune the amounts directly in the appearances settings |
[00:23:37] | Gibby: | is the correct way to zero it, setting the 4 settings back to 0 first? |
[00:24:22] | wagnerrp: | there is a reset option within the 'm' menu in the wizard |
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[00:26:55] | Gibby: | ahhh k |
[00:29:29] | tgm4883: | stuartm, wagnerrp, I believe we were discussing the mythbuntu packages version output when running 'mythbackend --version', it already returns the output of 'git describe', so I'm unsure where you guys are seeing otherwise. |
[00:30:26] | wagnerrp: | i didn't know that we were seeing otherwise |
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[00:31:06] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I believe that is what stuartm had said, causing me to look into it |
[00:31:16] | wagnerrp: | my only complaint about mythbuntu logs is that your users don't seem to understand how to clip them back to only the most recent run |
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[00:31:36] | wagnerrp: | but they're usually fine if we get them through apport |
[00:33:51] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, hmm, I hesitate to add another thing to my plate, but that sounds like a job for mythbuntu-log-grabber |
[00:34:29] | wagnerrp: | ive been planning to do something along those lines, but generic for mythtv on all systems |
[00:34:48] | wagnerrp: | use the database logs, rather than file logs, and filter based off PID |
[00:35:40] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, well if you do that, I'll change to use your way |
[00:35:59] | tgm4883: | currently MLogG just grabs the last X lines of each log and shoves them in pastebin |
[00:36:07] | tgm4883: | although I think the pastebin portion is broke |
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[00:37:44] | wagnerrp: | the plan is that this would be something integrated with trac's RPC interface, similar to how apport is integrated with launchpad |
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[00:43:45] | Gibby: | i still can not get it anywhere close lol |
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[00:50:37] | neufeld: | Question: is there a way to tune the kernel to ask it to be more aggressive about sending dirty buffers to disk on some mounted filesystems? When a recording completes, there's an fdatasync() call before the tuner is proclaimed fit for reuse. Well, that fdatasync() can take many seconds, during which time a follow-on recording could be starting up. I know the spindles can keep up with the steady-state stream, so |
[00:50:37] | neufeld: | it seems that the VFS has a noticeable amount of unwritten data when the recording completes, and I'd like to encourage the kernel to write through more promptly so that the fdatasync() completes more quickly. Can I tune the VFS layer in this manner? |
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[01:25:01] | wagnerrp: | usually it's not a problem unless you have too many recordings on one disk, or are recording to the same disk your database livessss on |
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[01:41:06] | neufeld: | wagnerrp: true, and my database isn't on the same disk, but I have observed the effect. Did fdatasync() get added in 0.25? I didn't notice the lag in 0.24. |
[01:42:14] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has had a sync loop for years |
[01:42:26] | wagnerrp: | it just actually reports issues to the logs now |
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[02:13:33] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i'm not sure who is more of a badass, Reese, or his former CIA partner |
[02:14:58] | sphery: | hehe, I haven't started watching this season's yet--but I did finally watch last seasons (and I loved it) |
[02:15:06] | sphery: | I'm glad that one wasn't cancelled. |
[02:15:37] | wagnerrp: | you saw her ambush the handler who tried to kill reese then? |
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[02:16:57] | sphery: | yeah |
[02:17:25] | wagnerrp: | well now she's manipulating him in the most amazing way possible |
[02:17:44] | sphery: | sounds like this will be a good season |
[02:17:49] | wagnerrp: | like a puppet wearing a... vest |
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[02:56:51] | fully_human: | Hello. I like MythTV: I was able to download the list of channels from SchedulesDirect almost flawlessly. I say almost flawlessly because many of the channels aren't identified and only a few channels have schedules attached, most of them being the wrong schedule. Has anyone else had trouble with this? Thanks. |
[02:57:15] | wagnerrp: | what type of tuner? |
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[02:59:49] | Gibby: | so in .25+ vdpaubuffersize was renamed to vdpaubuffercount but is not needed? |
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[03:00:17] | fully_human: | wagnerrp: Hauppauge...I forget the exact model, but it's a single coax input. |
[03:00:31] | jgautier: | has anyone here been able to get a GT 430 to playback 1080i "perfectly"? |
[03:01:01] | sphery: | Gibby: yeah, it means something different now (so the old setting value is wrong), and now MythTV dynamically scales, so it will just do the right thing |
[03:01:10] | wagnerrp: | fully_human: did you have to scan for channels at any time? |
[03:01:28] | Gibby: | sphery, what if it isn't just doing the right thing now though? |
[03:02:36] | fully_human: | wagnerrp: Yes, and I used SchedulesDirect. |
[03:03:03] | [R]: | jgautier: my 9300 plays it "perfectly" to me... so you're gonig to have to be a little more specifci |
[03:03:06] | wagnerrp: | when you scan for channels, presumably broadcast channels with an antenna, those channels identify themselves with callsigns |
[03:03:32] | wagnerrp: | when you subsequently use mythfilldatabase, it will attempt to match up those callsigns and channel numbers as best it can with the data from your schedules direct lineup |
[03:03:33] | jgautier: | sometimes it stutters some people dont notice it but it annoys me |
[03:03:39] | wagnerrp: | often times, it get's things right |
[03:03:50] | wagnerrp: | sometimes, it can't find a match |
[03:03:58] | wagnerrp: | occasionally, it forces the wrong pairing |
[03:04:05] | jgautier: | i also see this in the mythtv frontend logs sometimes when i see the stutter |
[03:04:05] | [R]: | jgautier: lower the deinterlacer |
[03:04:08] | fully_human: | wagnerrp: Yes, about half of the channels have call signs. The others are seemingly duplicates of some of the channels with a call sign. |
[03:04:09] | jgautier: | mythplayer.cpp:2095 (PrebufferEnoughFrames) Player(2): Waited 412ms for video buffers LAADdAAAAAdAAA |
[03:04:22] | jgautier: | [R] which deinterlacer do you use? |
[03:04:23] | wagnerrp: | you need to go through your scanned channels, and for anything that is wrong, you need to figure out what it is and set the xmltvid correctly |
[03:04:29] | [R]: | jgautier: the loweset one |
[03:04:32] | [R]: | no clue what it is |
[03:04:45] | wagnerrp: | once you set the xmltvid to match that listed for the channel on your schedules direct lineup, the guide data will function properly |
[03:04:57] | Gibby: | jgautier, i am dealing with that issue now too, not with livetv but with old ripped dvd's |
[03:05:54] | jgautier: | i think pausing for a few seconds then playing helps out with the video buffers issue |
[03:06:12] | fully_human: | wagnerrp: Ah, so I should go to Zap2It, look up the channel in the area, and then try to find the call sign? |
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[03:06:42] | wagnerrp: | no, go to schedules direct, mouse over the channel you think it is, and the popup will display the xmltvid |
[03:06:47] | jgautier: | ok im gonna try the OneField deinterlacer |
[03:06:49] | Gibby: | since vdpaubuffersize was renamed, is there a way to over the dynmica portion? |
[03:07:02] | wagnerrp: | then go into the channel editor in mythtv-setup, and give mythtv that id for the proper channel |
[03:07:33] | wagnerrp: | i don't believe zap2ip lists tribunes internal ID numbers on the website |
[03:08:02] | jgautier: | do you have to restart myth or anytihng when changing deinterlacer? |
[03:09:05] | wagnerrp: | no, you can actually change it during playback through the 'm' menu |
[03:09:15] | jgautier: | oh cool |
[03:09:43] | fully_human: | Hm...most of the callsigns seem to be just the channel number I would use on a remote...only MythTV decided to add underscores and junk to all the channels. |
[03:10:01] | jgautier: | what happens when you choose No deinterlacing? i just chose that and it seems to work fine |
[03:10:09] | jgautier: | is the TV doing the deinterlacing? |
[03:10:23] | wagnerrp: | any broadcast channel is supposed to include virtual channel mappings |
[03:10:37] | wagnerrp: | if you have ones without any defined, i presume you are using digital cable? |
[03:12:08] | [R]: | jgautier: no, you're just not lookikgn at any fast action scense |
[03:12:25] | Gibby: | i tried all the deinterlacer's and i am on vdpau slim, still having videos stutters |
[03:12:29] | [R]: | interlaced content on a progressive display is VERY noticiable when its moving in a certain direction |
[03:12:39] | jgautier: | ok ill look for a good channel to try it on |
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[03:13:32] | wagnerrp: | fully_human: actually, i was wrong... if you go to zap2it and set your location to the same provider as you are using in schedules direct, the 'stnNum' in the individual station URLs is the xmltvid you're looking for |
[03:13:44] | Gibby: | it looks like it is my videos from older rips that have issues, like open season |
[03:13:56] | Gibby: | pauses every 2 seconds and barely gets any audio |
[03:13:57] | wagnerrp: | if you would rather see a lineup that gave the program guide, for easier identification of channels |
[03:14:34] | wagnerrp: | as for underscores, any digital television would do the same exact thing |
[03:14:49] | fully_human: | wagnerrp: Thanks. :-) |
[03:14:51] | wagnerrp: | however some TVs prefer to use periods or dashes rather than underscores |
[03:15:26] | wagnerrp: | fully_human: note, you MUST set the location to the same one you selected on the schedules direct website |
[03:15:41] | wagnerrp: | the generic network lineups are not what you're looking for |
[03:16:00] | jgautier: | it also seems to be worse on certain channels |
[03:17:38] | Gibby: | anyway to over the buffer size like as before? |
[03:18:16] | jgautier: | i think ill just have to deal with it and get used to it |
[03:18:17] | wagnerrp: | the buffer should dynamically scale as necessary |
[03:18:21] | wagnerrp: | you shouldn't need to set it |
[03:18:32] | jgautier: | or buy a new card...which card is the best fro 1080i? |
[03:18:49] | Gibby: | it is stuttering like crazy, and it is on non-HD video |
[03:19:23] | wagnerrp: | have you tried simply not using vdpau? |
[03:19:34] | jgautier: | nope |
[03:19:41] | jgautier: | which other one would you recommend |
[03:19:50] | wagnerrp: | i actually meant gibby |
[03:19:55] | jgautier: | oh |
[03:19:55] | wagnerrp: | but either works |
[03:19:57] | jgautier: | haha |
[03:19:58] | Gibby: | wagnerrp, trying now, but do I loose anything when i try to watch HD |
[03:20:14] | jgautier: | so if i dont use vdpau is the video processing happening on the cpu? |
[03:20:19] | wagnerrp: | gibby: then set up your profile to only use vdpau on resolutions your CPU typically cannot handle |
[03:20:43] | wagnerrp: | jgautier: default settings unless you manually select a VDPAU profile is to do software decoding |
[03:21:00] | Gibby: | wagnerrp, normal is stuttering too |
[03:21:09] | wagnerrp: | i _think_ the default profile uses opengl for rendering, but it might be xv still |
[03:21:25] | wagnerrp: | what CPU? |
[03:21:48] | jgautier: | i have a core i3 should the be capable of 1080i? |
[03:22:03] | wagnerrp: | desktop version? |
[03:22:09] | jgautier: | yes |
[03:22:11] | Gibby: | it is a zotac, hold on let me grab the model |
[03:22:30] | Gibby: | vdpau normal worked fine with my bufferesize at 28 or 32 on .24 |
[03:22:34] | wagnerrp: | there should not be any commercial content a desktop i3 cannot handle |
[03:23:27] | Gibby: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173004 |
[03:24:03] | wagnerrp: | bleah... |
[03:24:20] | Gibby: | i bought them back in 2010 |
[03:24:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, with an Atom, you're screwed on anything the GPU is having trouble with |
[03:24:42] | wagnerrp: | tribulations of hardware decoding |
[03:24:56] | Gibby: | but these worked fine in .24 |
[03:25:05] | Gibby: | granted i was setting the buffer size then |
[03:25:14] | Gibby: | and on vdpau |
[03:25:17] | wagnerrp: | and should continue to work now |
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[03:25:49] | wagnerrp: | you said they play, but not smoothly? |
[03:25:54] | Gibby: | i completey agree they should still be working |
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[03:26:04] | Gibby: | yeah not smoothly, no were near watchable |
[03:26:24] | Gibby: | and it is just the older movies i ripped for the kids. the newer stuff is fine |
[03:26:34] | Gibby: | HD is perfect coming out of my hdpvr |
[03:26:34] | jgautier: | why would some channels work better than others? |
[03:26:52] | wagnerrp: | well that should just be MPEG2, stuff easily doable on even the Atom CPU |
[03:27:15] | wagnerrp: | unless you mean transcoded |
[03:27:22] | Gibby: | i know, that is why i am baffled here, if SD played fine and HD wouldn't i could understand, but HD is fine and SD is an issue |
[03:28:04] | wagnerrp: | standard definition H264 can still be a bit much for an Atom, especially if you encoded it single sliced |
[03:28:07] | Gibby: | well just some SD, stuff i ripped before i even started using myth |
[03:28:34] | wagnerrp: | of course depending on the age, XviD was never supported by that GPU |
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[03:30:15] | Gibby: | so i take it no way to override buffer anymore? |
[03:30:31] | wagnerrp: | don't know, never needed to for any of my content |
[03:31:23] | wagnerrp: | of course back when i still transcoded stuff, i went through a lot of trouble to make sure my content was standard compliant, so it would play on my PS3 |
[03:31:33] | jgautier: | on another note...the volume fluctuates between my channels is there anyway to equalize the audo so its all about the same volume? |
[03:31:45] | Gibby: | these do play on the ps3 atleast |
[03:32:00] | wagnerrp: | odd that they play on the PS3 but not the GPU |
[03:32:10] | wagnerrp: | the PS3 tends to be awfully picky about things |
[03:32:21] | wagnerrp: | more so about anything not in a TS file |
[03:32:28] | Gibby: | i know, i used to use it soley before i came to myth 3+ years ago |
[03:32:38] | Gibby: | i knew i should not have upgraded lol |
[03:32:53] | Gibby: | only took a week to get to be able to watch TV again, wife hasn't been to happy since she babysits at home |
[03:33:21] | jgautier: | every person who uses mythtv has a pissed off wife :P |
[03:33:34] | Gibby: | my wife loves it until it comes to upgrade time |
[03:33:51] | Gibby: | i mean i can watch tv in like 10 different locations, love it |
[03:33:51] | jgautier: | well i just started this project so its been eating up all my time lately |
[03:33:55] | wagnerrp: | heh, don't blame mythtv, blame the person using it has a hobby that has to tinker |
[03:33:56] | wagnerrp: | :) |
[03:34:07] | jgautier: | exactly |
[03:34:38] | wagnerrp: | 95% of the problems i have is because i get something working, and then want to make it work better |
[03:35:13] | jgautier: | i hear that |
[03:35:13] | Gibby: | yeah definitely the older rips are the issue, anything pre 2008ish |
[03:35:27] | Gibby: | and i am back on vdpau normal |
[03:36:25] | Gibby: | well it is close for tonight, thanks for help guys, night |
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[05:22:06] | homebrewcider: | hi there, is there any way to change a setup menu item from the desktop and not 'IN' Mythbuntu. I can't change menu items and get no picture after changing ONE menu item. HELP !! |
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[05:23:39] | [R]: | what? |
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[06:01:50] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: tmdb3.py doesn'T do "-t" thus breaking 0.26 lookups with it |
[06:02:05] | wagnerrp: | -t? |
[06:02:52] | wagnerrp: | i thought the '-v' check was supposed to do that |
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[06:06:28] | dekarl: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . oad.cpp#n275 |
[06:06:28] | dekarl: | args.append("-t"); |
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[06:43:32] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883, dekarl: support for a '-t' pushed for master and 0.26 |
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[06:47:58] | dekarl: | :) |
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[07:32:43] | homebrewcider: | hi there, is there any way to change a setup menu item from the desktop and not 'IN' Mythbuntu. I can't change menu items and get no picture after changing ONE menu item. HELP !! |
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[08:56:48] | stuartm: | tgm4883: my production box has the latest packages from the 0.25 repo, and it reports "MythTV Version : v0.25.3" |
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[11:17:47] | homebrewcider: | hi there, is there any way to change a setup menu item from the desktop and not 'IN' Mythbuntu. I can't change menu items and get no picture after changing ONE menu item. HELP !! |
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[12:38:46] | Scopeuk: | homebrewcider: there is a reset comandline switch for the front end that puts the front end settisgn abck to default |
[12:39:04] | Scopeuk: | homebrewcider: there is a reset comandline switch for the front end that puts the front end settisng back to default |
[12:40:06] | Scopeuk: | mythfrontend -r |
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[12:47:17] | homebrewcider: | I see |
[12:47:24] | homebrewcider: | that's the command is it? |
[12:47:33] | homebrewcider: | mythfrontend -r |
[12:50:27] | homebrewcider: | excellent Scopeuk, many thanks |
[12:56:49] | Scopeuk: | -r is short for --reset, it resets the visual front end settings |
[12:56:56] | Scopeuk: | you more than welcome |
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[13:30:59] | IReboot: | Is there a way to test if MythTV can play a video file from the commandline? I thought there was a simple command line method but my Googling and wiki search skills have failed me. |
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[13:51:24] | Seeker`: | IReboot: mythavtest? |
[13:52:23] | IReboot: | Seeker`: Thanks I had a senior moment:) |
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[15:58:04] | wnhtr2011: | I am having a problem in LiveTV with 0.26/fixes branch. I cannot seem to skip back in the LiveTV Chain to the previous program. Does anyone know about this? |
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[18:47:25] | wizbit: | i wonder why mythweb throws a lot of PHP Warning: Unknown: function '0' |
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[19:09:23] | justinh: | right, ubuntu/upstart has done it this time |
[19:09:34] | justinh: | mythbackend had 'hung' or so I thought.. AGAIN |
[19:09:50] | justinh: | so I ps -ef |grep mythbackend ... and find about TEN running |
[19:10:12] | justinh: | so I do service stop mythbackend.. and more appear |
[19:10:24] | justinh: | so I kill them all, and MORE appear |
[19:10:35] | justinh: | eventually, more killing makes them disappear |
[19:10:54] | justinh: | and no, I've commented out the respawn lines in the upstart thing |
[19:12:26] | justinh: | maybe it's time to A) upgrade.. B) dump upstart or C) call time on Ubuntu |
[19:12:56] | justinh: | somebody said there've been reports of upstart being a but strange with mythbackend. I believe them |
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[19:26:39] | dekarl: | or fix them backend to obey SIGTERM? ^^ (yes, thats a me too) |
[19:30:16] | wagnerrp: | seems like that would be a trivial thing |
[19:30:35] | wagnerrp: | if the error code is SIGTERM, assume the user actually wanted it to stay terminated |
[19:31:11] | wizbit: | i've never had more than one backend |
[19:31:29] | wagnerrp: | i mean i thought the whole thing about upstart was that it was some kind of intelligent daemon, rather than just applications forked to the background |
[19:31:35] | wagnerrp: | so it should be able to capture the exit codes |
[19:32:09] | whyzzyrd: | upstart is a pita |
[19:32:36] | whyzzyrd: | largely because I'm somewhat old school |
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[19:33:34] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: there are times when mythbackend itself does not obey a "killall mythbackend", no matter if the kill is via upstart or shell |
[19:33:51] | dekarl: | other times it just takes ages to stop. |
[19:33:52] | wagnerrp: | i love the idea of a more capable init daemon, replacing so many bourne scripts |
[19:34:16] | dekarl: | As its not really repeatable and I've not yet dug into upstart scripts there's only so much I can do :( |
[19:34:29] | wagnerrp: | it's just that when you cant get in there and modify things directly, it makes it that much more difficult to fix things when it gets confused |
[19:36:12] | whyzzyrd: | that's my general problem. I could generally write a bourne script to do what I wanted, and upstart is another thing to confuse me when I deployed mythbuntu |
[19:37:21] | whyzzyrd: | I've been using linux some 17 years, and it took me 3 days to get it working. |
[19:37:21] | dekarl: | ohh, at least the users are honest over at tvdb http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&a . . . t=160#p42768 "we don't care about your site, we just want our downloads to scrape well!" :D |
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[19:38:02] | whyzzyrd: | largely because I wanted diskless frontends, and multiple slave backends |
[19:38:05] | wagnerrp: | yank goes the API key |
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[19:41:16] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: so it seems they're referring to users merging multi-part episodes, to coincide with how pirate groups redistribute them? |
[19:42:21] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: sounds like ABC and "pirate group" don't agree on the episode order :) |
[19:42:50] | dekarl: | and the customers think the pirate groups have the designated episode order |
[19:43:24] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, dekarl not necessarily pirate groups. Ripping episodes from DVD, 2 part episodes are usually a single episode on disk right? |
[19:51:41] | ** wagnerrp wonders if N0Stahl is ever going to make it over here ** | |
[19:52:58] | dekarl: | tgm4883: the example is about how many seasons make up the first 23 episodes of american dad... sooo "what is a season" ;) |
[19:53:41] | dekarl: | is it two seasons in a 12 month period as ABC and hirakicore say or is it one episode as amazon&wikipedia say |
[19:54:26] | wagnerrp: | i dare say ABC (actually FOX) is the authority on that one |
[19:54:36] | tgm4883: | dekarl, I would go with the official website of the show |
[19:54:51] | tgm4883: | if thats missing, go to the channel |
[19:54:59] | tgm4883: | if that is missing, look at DVD release? |
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[19:55:58] | dekarl: | tgm4883: that doesn't help as obviously you have the odd cases where you have different opinions about what the season is per locale... (I really should start collecting all these corner cases :) |
[19:56:31] | wagnerrp: | they do at least have separate broadcast and dvd ordering |
[19:56:34] | tgm4883: | dekarl, wouldn't there only be one official website for the whole world? |
[19:56:46] | wagnerrp: | but they only allow two sets of ordering, not an unbounded amount |
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[19:57:17] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: he's saying different broadcasters use different orders and even different episode names when they license the content for their own area |
[19:57:19] | dekarl: | tgm4883: of course not, its the old media world where the rights for each localization are with different companies :( |
[19:57:34] | wagnerrp: | nOStahl: you have decoders, and you have renderers |
[19:57:57] | tgm4883: | dekarl, I don't think I care so much about that, as I do the people actually producing the episode |
[19:58:05] | wagnerrp: | your graphics card necessarily has to do the video rendering, whether it do so through the old Xv, generic OpenGL, or some custom mechanism like VDPAU or VAAPI |
[19:58:37] | wagnerrp: | video rendering is things like adjusting the color space (from YUV to RGB), rescaling the video, compositing it with UI elements, etc... |
[19:58:45] | nOStahl: | wagnerrp: I have an eee pc 901 netbook I was considering adding the connector in for a third mini pcie slot. |
[19:58:58] | wagnerrp: | then you have video decoding, which can be done in software with the ffmpeg libraries, or with hardware decoders like VDPAU or VAAPI |
[19:59:16] | wagnerrp: | the CrystalHD stuff is only a decoder, meaning it is a drop-in replacement for ffmpeg |
[19:59:27] | wagnerrp: | you feed compressed video into the card, you get uncompressed video back out of the card |
[19:59:41] | dekarl: | tgm4883: aye, my favored data model has the series as an unordered bag of episodes. :) Then everyone can have a separate entity of "the one true order" made up of the same pieces |
[19:59:50] | wagnerrp: | there is some limited support for reprocessing, such as deinterlacing and scaling, but MythTV doesnt use it |
[20:00:20] | wagnerrp: | that uncompressed video then gets pumped into your graphics card to be rendered and transmitted to your display |
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[20:00:24] | tgm4883: | dekarl, I'll agree with that, if you could select which order that would be ideal |
[20:00:50] | wagnerrp: | the crystalhd stuff does not offer its own framebuffer, or xorg support, for direct output |
[20:00:53] | nOStahl: | wagnerrp: does that do anything for streaming video ie netflix or just video files on my hard drive |
[20:01:22] | dekarl: | tgm4883: that gets us to part two. let the guide provider choose which order each station follows. (e.g. private station 1 uses order A and public station 2 uses order B) |
[20:01:30] | wagnerrp: | it's video decoding, any and all video formats the crystalhd decoder supports |
[20:01:43] | wagnerrp: | anything it doesnt support falls back to software decoding on your cpu |
[20:02:09] | dekarl: | in the end we all have to agree that there is no one true order and we should just use the episode names... (which could be the date or a monotonically increasing number depending on the series :) |
[20:02:19] | wagnerrp: | as for netflix streaming... can't happen... we don't (and can't) have support for any form of DRM, so we are not allowed to access netflix |
[20:02:29] | wizbit: | how can i locate the filename of a recording? i want to strip some audio out of it so i can track down some music? |
[20:03:05] | wagnerrp: | use mythlink.pl |
[20:03:06] | nOStahl: | wagnerrp: does the crystalhd as far as hardware goes affect netflix rendering, if its on a windows box |
[20:03:25] | wagnerrp: | nOStahl: i wouldn't know, to be honest |
[20:03:34] | wagnerrp: | it's outside the purview of mythtv and this channel |
[20:04:06] | nOStahl: | so far sounding like an interesting upgrade for my eeepc 901 |
[20:05:43] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: direct download on mythweb :) |
[20:05:55] | wagnerrp: | you could do that... |
[20:06:28] | wizbit: | grrr wish there was a desktop version of shazam |
[20:06:44] | wagnerrp: | no idea what that is |
[20:07:37] | wizbit: | its the tool where people can aim a smartphone at music and it will find the name of the track |
[20:07:39] | nOStahl: | wagnerrp do you know if there are any video encoder/decoders in mini pcie I have not been able to source |
[20:07:47] | wagnerrp: | you mean musicbrainz? |
[20:07:53] | wizbit: | that doest the same? |
[20:07:56] | wizbit: | *does |
[20:07:58] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
[20:08:01] | wizbit: | ohhh |
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[20:08:15] | wagnerrp: | nOStahl: not much of a market for such devices |
[20:08:24] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: even from a dodgy audio clip fromt v |
[20:09:35] | justinh: | it's also the tool which keeps youtube emailing me to tell me off for using copyrighted music in my videos |
[20:10:54] | wizbit: | excellent |
[20:10:57] | wizbit: | http://api.acoustid.org/ |
[20:11:02] | dekarl: | time to hit sack... http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Fingerprinting |
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[22:21:52] | skd5aner: | any of the mythfrontend for android folks hang out in here? |
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[22:31:05] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, yes |
[22:31:08] | tgm4883: | rhpot1991 is here |
[22:31:16] | tgm4883: | dmfrey is usually here as well |
[22:31:20] | skd5aner: | ah, thanks tgm4883 |
[22:31:55] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, did you have questions or comments? |
[22:32:33] | skd5aner: | rhpot1991: well, if you're around... I'm having some issues, pretty much dead in the water... |
[22:32:52] | skd5aner: | well... |
[22:33:15] | skd5aner: | the first time I installed, every show said "please try again later" when trying to show the episode list |
[22:33:31] | tgm4883: | yea, it's got to pull the data |
[22:33:34] | skd5aner: | after an uninstall and reinstall, most of them now populate |
[22:33:40] | skd5aner: | tgm4883: I waited 2 days :) |
[22:33:44] | skd5aner: | I never pulled the data |
[22:33:49] | skd5aner: | s/I/It |
[22:34:18] | skd5aner: | Well, that part seems to work after the re-install, but now, nothing plays back... |
[22:34:18] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: I'd uninstall, clear the cache and data and reinstall |
[22:34:20] | rhpot1991: | then try again |
[22:34:30] | rhpot1991: | ok maybe you got past that then |
[22:34:30] | tgm4883: | and verify you have the new version installed |
[22:34:37] | skd5aner: | I see maybe the first frame, then nothing |
[22:34:38] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: so a few things ot check |
[22:34:41] | tgm4883: | just in case you've got 1.0 installed |
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[22:34:46] | rhpot1991: | 1. do you have a streaming storage group setup |
[22:34:49] | skd5aner: | I've got the latest in the market |
[22:34:55] | skd5aner: | rhpot1991: yes |
[22:34:59] | rhpot1991: | 2. on the backend does the stream get created |
[22:34:59] | skd5aner: | oh, wait... |
[22:35:01] | skd5aner: | I don't know? |
[22:35:15] | skd5aner: | I use storage groups for my recordings... |
[22:35:22] | rhpot1991: | use http://backend:6544 to look at the api examples, there is one for HLS that will list out the streams |
[22:35:25] | skd5aner: | but I'm not sure I know what a "streaming storage group" is |
[22:35:29] | Twiggy2cents: | You guys may or may not know, but I am going to ask anyway! What does a linux shell do when you add a \ at the end of a command? |
[22:35:38] | skd5aner: | (running 0.26-fixes btw) |
[22:35:39] | Twiggy2cents: | It gives you a > |
[22:35:49] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: on mythbuntu we don't add the storage group if you upgraded from a previous vesrion of mythtv |
[22:35:49] | Twiggy2cents: | I am curious what it means |
[22:35:52] | rhpot1991: | so you need to add it yourself |
[22:35:57] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, that's for long commands |
[22:36:06] | tgm4883: | so you can continue on the next line I believe |
[22:36:06] | rhpot1991: | 3. don't use the default player, mx player works much better |
[22:36:08] | Twiggy2cents: | I cant get it to do anything afterwards |
[22:36:10] | skd5aner: | rhpot1991: I run ubuntu, but I compile myth from source |
[22:36:22] | Twiggy2cents: | If I just hit enter it just gives me another > |
[22:36:22] | skd5aner: | so I don't run mythbuntu or the packages |
[22:36:28] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: well check your storage group to be sure |
[22:36:36] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: check those out, I'll be back later and I'll see if you made any progress |
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[22:36:39] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, that's cause you didn't put anything there |
[22:36:39] | skd5aner: | will do, let me go check... thanks |
[22:36:40] | tgm4883: | do this |
[22:36:45] | tgm4883: | ls \ |
[22:36:49] | tgm4883: | /home |
[22:36:57] | tgm4883: | that should print the contents of /home |
[22:37:00] | skd5aner: | it basically gives you a "new line" so to speak |
[22:37:03] | Twiggy2cents: | Hey look at that! |
[22:37:05] | skd5aner: | Twiggy2cents: & |
[22:37:09] | skd5aner: | Twiggy2cents: ^ |
[22:37:16] | Twiggy2cents: | so that way you dont forget what you were typing? |
[22:37:27] | tgm4883: | which this is waaaay off topic |
[22:37:32] | skd5aner: | if you had a super long command, you could do multi-line |
[22:37:39] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, yea, so you can see everything |
[22:37:39] | skd5aner: | without wrapping |
[22:37:59] | Twiggy2cents: | Heh well what I mean is that when I run mythfrontend with \ what does it do :-) |
[22:38:14] | skd5aner: | it waits for you to finish the command |
[22:38:21] | skd5aner: | it assumes you have more to enter |
[22:38:22] | tgm4883: | Twiggy2cents, why would you run it like that? |
[22:38:37] | Twiggy2cents: | Heh I was just making it on topic (just joking around) |
[22:38:45] | tgm4883: | ah |
[22:38:46] | tgm4883: | lol |
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[22:39:54] | skd5aner: | rhpot1991: btw, I was attempting to use MX player :) |
[22:41:34] | skd5aner: | so, there's a storage group for streaming? |
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[22:50:24] | skd5aner: | it looks like a storage group for streaming is optional, and that it should create them in ~/.mythtv/streaming, but I definitely do not see that directory there under the user running mythtv |
[22:51:04] | tgm4883: | skd5aner, *buntu? |
[22:51:28] | skd5aner: | 12.04, vanilla |
[22:51:47] | skd5aner: | (ubuntu server actually) |
[22:52:20] | tgm4883: | don't put it in your /home dir then |
[22:52:27] | tgm4883: | it doesn't work |
[22:52:32] | skd5aner: | why doesn't it work? |
[22:53:53] | skd5aner: | that seems to be the default that mythtv users |
[22:53:56] | skd5aner: | er, uses |
[22:53:56] | tgm4883: | IDK, I never bothered to find out |
[22:54:14] | tgm4883: | I just know it doesn't work (really any of the storage groups) in the /home dir |
[22:54:26] | skd5aner: | well, it's not explicitely configured that way |
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[22:54:55] | skd5aner: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/518687#518687 |
[22:55:23] | skd5aner: | tgm4883: argh... dinner's ready.... I'll have to come back to this another tme. Thanks so much for the help thus far, would love to get this to work :D |
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[23:58:39] | rhpot1991: | skd5aner: we do /var/lib/mythtv/streaming |
[23:59:58] | skd5aner: | rhpot1991: as a configured storage group or as a "fallback" default location? |
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