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| [00:00:24] | bill6502: | Not sure, from the protocol I see: GET /tokens/token_json?uuid=9de2a11a-83e5–4f76–86c7-f63dbd9486d4 HTTP/1.1 |
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| [00:01:44] | jams: | it will start with a pub and by in .mythtv/hardwareprofile |
| [00:01:51] | jams: | one of the files in there |
| [00:03:47] | bill6502: | Got it: pub_8eccc992–8ba7–4c8d-bf6d-458abb92f8b3 |
| [00:04:26] | jams: | oh my havne't updated since 04 |
| [00:04:40] | jams: | gotta run..but will be back later |
| [00:05:34] | jams: | can you do email me the data your trying to submit.. --print-only will show the data |
| [00:06:51] | bill6502: | Sure, I'm off the the store for a while. |
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| [00:46:21] | Greek-Boy: | anyone here using Cubox? |
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| [07:44:37] | homebrewcider: | hi there, I have mythbuntu installed in a 2 pc setup frontend for 1 room, backend in another. I have tuned the tuners in the backend, however when I start mythtv frontend I think it wants the backend to be on the same machine. I am lost, can someone help please |
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| [13:25:42] | jedix: | hey |
| [13:25:59] | jedix: | I received an error message saying that myth read an EOF from the device |
| [13:26:11] | jedix: | and now the video won't fully play back through the entire file |
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| [13:26:25] | jedix: | is there a way to remove the eof that was put into the steam? |
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| [14:07:04] | lapion: | I have 2 totally different mouse/keyboard emulating remote controls, how can I see what keys generate what keycodes compared to keyboards ? |
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| [14:25:04] | toeb: | lapion: xev? |
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| [14:26:47] | lapion: | toeb, xev it way to low level.. there used to be one that would show a keyboard and show you what key is being depressed |
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| [14:36:45] | lapion: | it=is |
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| [19:17:21] | earthw0rm: | Does MythTV do automatic DB backups? |
| [19:17:33] | earthw0rm: | I noticed a backups folder on my HD |
| [19:23:08] | tgm4883: | earthw0rm, it can, I don't recall if it's setup by default |
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| [19:30:31] | earthw0rm: | Doesn't seem to be, the directory is empty :( |
| [19:30:48] | earthw0rm: | Where does myth keep metadata for recordings in its DB? |
| [19:30:56] | tgm4883: | yes |
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| [19:31:11] | earthw0rm: | Yeah, but which table like? |
| [19:31:26] | tgm4883: | recordings I think |
| [19:31:36] | tgm4883: | although probably a few tables |
| [19:32:14] | tgm4883: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Recorded_table |
| [19:32:52] | earthw0rm: | Hmm, it's got 7 rows in it |
| [19:33:02] | earthw0rm: | I've recorded loads more than that |
| [19:33:31] | earthw0rm: | I think my DB is corrupted because the HD is dying, so I was hoping to recover the names of my recording at the least |
| [19:33:57] | tgm4883: | Doesn't look like the DB knows about the recordings |
| [19:34:31] | earthw0rm: | Balls, must have gotten the record table corrupted then? |
| [19:36:14] | earthw0rm: | This is a nightmare, I now have a huge pile of MPG files and no idea what they are :D |
| [19:36:53] | tmonkeype69: | earthw0rm: you make regular backups of the db, i hope? |
| [19:37:00] | earthw0rm: | Nah |
| [19:37:09] | earthw0rm: | I will next time |
| [19:37:26] | tmonkeype69: | mythtv will backup the db when upgrading between versions. |
| [19:37:32] | earthw0rm: | I've only had the system a few months, so I didn't expect this |
| [19:37:46] | tmonkeype69: | oh, only a few months, suck it up and start over. |
| [19:38:03] | earthw0rm: | Yeah, amazing how much you can tape in that time though you know |
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| [20:00:44] | justinh: | so, The Thick of it didn't record on Saturday because something of a higher priority was recorded instead. We have three tuners, all set to allow a max of 2 simultaneous recordings ... and now husband acceptance factor is at an all-time low. Wife is happy, because the crappy comedy shows she set to record went okay |
| [20:01:19] | justinh: | need a cron job to automatically delete anything featuring the name 'Lee Mack' from the schedules |
| [20:02:07] | justinh: | earthw0rm: FWIW I've managed to get enough back from a badly mashed database. It wasn't very hard, certainly not as bad as I thought it'd be |
| [20:03:31] | justinh: | restore the old db files to a new database, repair whatever tables you can, if you're lucky you won't have lost anything from the tables you really need, or at worst you'll be lucky if you've lost little. then mysqldump the tables you're after.. and insert them into mythconverg :-) |
| [20:04:05] | justinh: | thank $deity for the nightly backup of the database. between that & what I managed to retreive from the old tables, I lost maybe one recording |
| [20:04:19] | justinh: | the seektable data was wack, but that's easy to fix |
| [20:04:42] | earthw0rm: | justinh: If I'm looking in there and seeing the "record" table hasn't got all the titles in it, I'm shafted though? |
| [20:05:01] | justinh: | 'recorded' is where the recordings are |
| [20:05:42] | earthw0rm: | Yeah, it's the titles of those I'm mostly bothered about, and there's only 7 rows in that table |
| [20:05:44] | justinh: | you'll technically need the channel table too, but we can live without knowing which channel something was recorded on if we're desperate ;-) |
| [20:06:00] | justinh: | the 'record' table is the list of stuff you want to record |
| [20:06:22] | earthw0rm: | Ah, crap sacks! Where's the ones I already HAVE recorded? |
| [20:06:30] | justinh: | in the 'recorded' table |
| [20:06:34] | earthw0rm: | lol |
| [20:06:52] | earthw0rm: | Ah |
| [20:06:54] | earthw0rm: | ERROR 1194 (HY000): Table 'recorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| [20:06:59] | justinh: | if you've lost that, then just restore last night's backup :-P |
| [20:07:11] | justinh: | mysqlcheck to the rescue! |
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| [20:07:57] | justinh: | I find myself having to do that in my dayjob with frightening regularity. I dunno how often mysql falls over in the rest of the world, but then my customers aren't too hot at keeping mysql partition data usage down to safe levels |
| [20:08:16] | justinh: | fills up.. WHOOPS. mysql gone byebyes |
| [20:08:29] | justinh: | I mean / fills up.. WHOOPS.. mysql gone byebyes |
| [20:08:34] | ** J-e-f-f-A runs optimize_mythdb.pl nightly in a cron job... ** | |
| [20:09:03] | earthw0rm: | Hmm, okay |
| [20:09:16] | ** justinh goes to look for the default recording priority.. and is sorely tempted to start looking at hacking up a multi-user thingy ** | |
| [20:09:17] | earthw0rm: | I suspect this has happened because the HD is on the way out |
| [20:09:40] | earthw0rm: | I had some corrupted .so files on the system, which seems really bad |
| [20:09:41] | justinh: | so anything my wife schedules to record gets a default priority of -99 |
| [20:09:46] | earthw0rm: | :D |
| [20:09:53] | wizbit: | J-e-f-f-A: good idea! |
| [20:09:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! |
| [20:10:18] | justinh: | she records such unholy *crap* all the time |
| [20:10:21] | wizbit: | J-e-f-f-A: where can i grab that script? does it also repair? |
| [20:10:34] | justinh: | I mean, SIX tuners were kept busy all of Saturday night. One should have had MY show |
| [20:10:36] | earthw0rm: | So if I do a mysqlcheck, then backup the DB, I should be able to install onto a new HD and restore the backup ...? |
| [20:10:52] | justinh: | earthw0rm: back up the actual mysql files first |
| [20:11:01] | wizbit: | justinh: are you still using a crt? |
| [20:11:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | wizbit: IIRC, if you compile from source you already have it – or it may just be on the WIKI now... /me checks... |
| [20:11:07] | justinh: | copy them to somewhere safe |
| [20:11:25] | kormoc: | justinh, free up disk space, mysql will unwedge and recover cleanly (assuming innodb). Then restart, all is better then hard killing mysql ;) |
| [20:11:29] | earthw0rm: | Okay, just copy them from /var or whever it puts them? |
| [20:11:57] | justinh: | earthw0rm: yeah, then you've still got them incase you need more extreme measures later |
| [20:12:06] | wizbit: | i just executed mythwikiscripts :-S |
| [20:12:06] | earthw0rm: | Good plan |
| [20:12:13] | justinh: | kormoc: customers.. they don't know |
| [20:12:30] | justinh: | one guy is pretty good but he still pokes & thrashes |
| [20:12:53] | kormoc: | yeah. People who know enough to cause trouble are always the worst. |
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| [20:13:12] | justinh: | right. mythtv is done recording coronation street... I can bump the max recordings to 5 again. sod the scheduling time |
| [20:13:35] | justinh: | I need to start looking into that again. it's still annoying me why my mysql setup is so slow |
| [20:14:31] | justinh: | kormoc: also, we use a mixture of innodb & myiasm. I dunno what that's all aboot |
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| [20:15:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | wizbit: looks like it's in the 'contrib' directory – although the wiki shows it for v0.21... |
| [20:15:36] | justinh: | I need to learn more mysql admin-fu for my day job. Some customers have pretty big (by mythtv standards) mysql databases |
| [20:16:01] | wizbit: | J-e-f-f-A: aye ok thanks |
| [20:16:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | wizbit: I'm running 0.25.1 and it's still here. ;-) |
| [20:16:52] | justinh: | they tend to use the default config out of the box, and I'm starting to think that may not be good |
| [20:17:17] | wizbit: | J-e-f-f-A: surely there are offical mysql scripts what can optimize and repair tables? |
| [20:17:29] | justinh: | oh COME ON ubuntu. sudo service mythtv-backend stop.. and ps lists it as still running |
| [20:17:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | wizbit: I'm sure there is, but this does it all, and is tailored for Myth already. ;-) |
| [20:17:59] | wizbit: | aye ok |
| [20:18:34] | earthw0rm: | Well, that seems to have worked, there's 219 rows in "recorded" now |
| [20:18:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: My DB used to be bigger, now it's only 363MB. ;-) |
| [20:19:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | (It used to be > 500MB) |
| [20:19:13] | earthw0rm: | I wonder if it was the HD dying? I know the Mrs is prone to hard rebooting the computer when X goes mad |
| [20:19:23] | earthw0rm: | Maybe that mashed some files? |
| [20:19:41] | earthw0rm: | Probably the HD is f00ked though and I'm wishing ... |
| [20:19:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | earthw0rm: If that's the case, set the power button to do a 'shutdown' – then it will shut down cleanly. |
| [20:20:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | And tell her to just TAP the power button, not hold it down for 4+ seconds... ;-) |
| [20:20:40] | earthw0rm: | Sadly she knows that trick |
| [20:20:51] | earthw0rm: | Good thinking though |
| [20:20:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | earthw0rm: hard-booting your backend is a bad idea... as is for any other system running a database! |
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| [20:21:19] | wizbit: | life is a lot better since i cleaned my backend |
| [20:21:26] | earthw0rm: | lol |
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| [20:22:54] | wizbit: | slackware 14 has been released :) |
| [20:23:43] | earthw0rm: | I wonder what I can do to prove the HD is on the way out? |
| [20:24:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | earthw0rm: look at the SMART data. |
| [20:29:03] | ** earthw0rm Googles ** | |
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| [20:38:35] | jedix: | earthw0rm: let me know what you find |
| [20:38:57] | jedix: | I'm currently backing up my recordings to test my drives using the tools from the vendor.. which means booting windows |
| [20:39:09] | jedix: | SMART tools seem to report an error on one of the 5 disks |
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| [20:39:33] | earthw0rm: | jedix: SMART said the drive is okay ... |
| [20:39:59] | earthw0rm: | I wonder if I should just keep using it then, but set up a DB back up to one of the other drives |
| [20:40:05] | jedix: | earthw0rm: I have 5 other dirves that say that for me, but ext4 has many errors.. 316 |
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| [20:40:49] | earthw0rm: | The filesystem can tell you how many errors its had then? |
| [20:42:26] | justinh: | SMART is better than nothing IMHO. Like, it says "whoop whoop whoop! disk is about to fai...". Oh dear. Not quite soon enough ;-) |
| [20:42:49] | earthw0rm: | Heh |
| [20:44:55] | justinh: | ruh? was the default recording priority setting removed as well? |
| [20:45:18] | jedix: | earthw0rm: it found the errors by fsck'ing it |
| [20:45:44] | jedix: | I let it run for a week, and it apparently fixed ~105 errors.. |
| [20:45:49] | jedix: | I'm giving up now |
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| [20:45:59] | earthw0rm: | A whole week!? |
| [20:46:46] | justinh: | hahaha! Single record priority is now -10 |
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| [20:48:09] | justinh: | must try to remember not to schedule single recordings |
| [20:49:00] | jedix: | earthw0rm: a whole week. |
| [20:49:14] | jedix: | it's 7.6tb... but it was only 1/3 done |
| [20:49:45] | jedix: | I'm trying to figure out how to set the machine up with raid so this doesn't happen agian |
| [20:49:48] | jedix: | again |
| [20:51:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: I switched from Raid5 to JBOD back when I lost my 2.5TB array years ago... had one HDD fail, and had shut down my system cleanly to swap it out. When I shut down, a 2nd drive went into 'click of death' mode... everything was lost. |
| [20:51:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: Now I just use individual drives with storage groups. Sure, I'll lose SOME recordings if a drive or two fails, but at least not EVERYTHING. And it's much less wear&tear on the drives too. |
| [20:52:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: I keep an eye on the SMART data every week or so, and move recordings to a new drive the moment I start to see errors creep up... |
| [20:53:38] | earthw0rm: | J-e-f-f-A: Errors in SMART or ...? |
| [20:53:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: Maybe it's just me, but I think Raid is a waste for TV/Video... I use it for my OS & DB, but not video. |
| [20:54:11] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: I was thinking of doing that, but I have a really big mount that I rsync to another machine wiht data used by xbmc, so I'm going to raid method |
| [20:54:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | earthw0rm: mostly in SMART... But it would be good to check other places too. |
| [20:54:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: maybe just use LVM then? Kinda like Raid 0 ... |
| [20:54:48] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: that's what I have now.. |
| [20:55:10] | jedix: | I don't think having raid will solve the fsck time though.. |
| [20:55:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | I use an SSD for my OS & DB – and physical drives (smallest is 500GB) for my Recordings/Videos. |
| [20:55:20] | jedix: | I'm wondering if xfs might be better than ext4 |
| [20:55:58] | justinh: | meh. default priority back up to 0. if FIFTEEN tuners ain't enough I need to put restraints on my wife |
| [20:56:36] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: my plan is raid 1 for os/db/home, raid 5 for video |
| [20:56:46] | justinh: | at least I have the consolation of being able to use iPlayer for the show I missed. Since flash video is happy on this laptop :-) |
| [20:56:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: I dunno... I run xfs – with individual drives, and run xfs_fsr nightly too... but have 9 seperate drives. ;-) |
| [20:57:49] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, I only have 5 |
| [20:57:51] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: do you have 'commercial' HDDs that are designed for 24x7 use, or just off-the-shelf Consumer HDDs? My HDDs in Raid5 only lasted 1 year before TWO failed. |
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| [20:58:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: Granted, at that time I wasn't monitoring the 'smart' data... but still... 1 year?!? |
| [20:58:32] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: commercial, but low end commercial |
| [20:58:54] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: do you have any helper scripts/tools for the smart data? |
| [20:59:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: Hardware controller, or software (and/or 'fakeraid')? |
| [20:59:07] | jedix: | software raid |
| [20:59:08] | justinh: | arghh never check work email outside working hours. stupid customer I gave a VM image to last thing on Friday got what he said he needed, which turned out to be the wrong thing. |
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| [20:59:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: I use 'monin' to monitor my system. |
| [20:59:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | er... munin |
| [21:00:03] | justinh: | still gonna make the Lee Mack cron job though |
| [21:00:10] | jedix: | J-e-f-f-A: I had issues whne a raid controller itself failed a while back.. then you need the same damn controller. |
| [21:00:20] | justinh: | buy TWO! |
| [21:00:25] | justinh: | buy THREE! |
| [21:00:52] | jedix: | yeah, screw that.. just use software and recover with another pc |
| [21:01:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: And the good controllers are EXPENSIVE... so I switched to individual disks and storage groups, and haven't looked back since. |
| [21:01:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: Performance improved vastly too... |
| [21:02:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | (compared to a software raid) |
| [21:02:51] | jedix: | yeah, I can see that |
| [21:03:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | jedix: And I have 7 tuners, so that helped quite a bit. ;-) (INDIVIDUAL tuners, not multpile programs on a single mux. ;-) ) |
| [21:04:10] | jedix: | I have 1 tuner card able to tune 2 channels |
| [21:04:12] | justinh: | 7 tuners? how do you have room for that many in a recent motherboard? |
| [21:04:12] | jedix: | that's all |
| [21:04:21] | jedix: | usb? |
| [21:04:35] | ** justinh doesn't trust USB tuners as far as he could throw one ** | |
| [21:04:48] | justinh: | not because they're tuners. Because they're USB |
| [21:04:51] | jedix: | you could get quite the distance throwing one |
| [21:05:16] | justinh: | pity my employer seems to think USB is a suitable bus for a product's primary storage |
| [21:05:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: 2 HD-PVRs (USB), 2 HD-HR's (Network, 2 tuners each), and 1 PCI PVR-250 (which, admittedly I'm not using anymore!) – so just 6 now. ;-) |
| [21:05:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: re: primary storage on USB drives? EEEK!!!! |
| [21:06:01] | justinh: | oh, the HDD vanished? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [21:06:20] | justinh: | happening a lot, and we can't even power cycle the hub in software |
| [21:06:32] | justinh: | yeah we use a HUB |
| [21:06:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | ouch |
| [21:06:49] | justinh: | cost saving, see :-) |
| [21:06:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | My company's been using iSCSI more and more... |
| [21:07:29] | justinh: | heh we say we can do AoE, but there's not enough CPU bandwidth to do that |
| [21:07:40] | justinh: | yeah, the lan controller is that crappy :P |
| [21:08:01] | justinh: | but it's GigE though, so that's alright |
| [21:09:04] | justinh: | our latest 'HD' camera goes up to 720P, and will do up to 25FPS, except if you do one SD stream – where the best you'll get at more than 2mbit/sec is 11FPS. #FAIL |
| [21:09:57] | justinh: | anyhoo... maybe it's also time to rethink the recording rule time overlap defaults – as in do away with them |
| [21:10:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | what??? So it records in 720p at 25fps, but fails epically at SD?? That's arse-backwards.............. |
| [21:11:04] | justinh: | no, fails if it has to do SD as well, even as low as 244P |
| [21:12:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | strange. They must be doing the scaling in software. |
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| [21:14:00] | justinh: | just an underpowered DSP |
| [21:15:30] | jedix: | how can I reset mythweb password? |
| [21:16:03] | earthw0rm: | Now my HDMI has stopped working |
| [21:16:11] | earthw0rm: | What in the world ... |
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| [21:18:03] | earthw0rm: | I can rmeote desktop in okay, but nothing on the blummin' TV |
| [21:27:59] | justinh: | hahaha, stupid woman left a comment on the website I run.. with her mobile phone number. Not moderating that. Nobody at the club ever replies to comments anyway |
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| [21:32:36] | lapion: | anyone know if there is a way to reprogram scan codes of keyboards ? |
| [21:34:50] | justinh: | I doubt you can easily reprogram the actual keyboard controller chip inside if that's what your angle is |
| [21:35:13] | jams: | xmodmap is probably the the thing closest to what your asking |
| [21:35:13] | justinh: | easier to use the xevents thingy. used it myself a long time ago |
| [21:35:20] | justinh: | yeah xmodmap. that was it |
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| [21:57:36] | justinh: | ruh? added more virtual tuners & schedule time hasn't gone up by a stupid amount at all |
| [21:58:17] | justinh: | 6.5 secs now. previously it was like 11 secs or something, so I killed off tuners I thought I didn't need & got about 6 secs... |
| [22:00:34] | jedix: | Anyone ever see these: E DVBRead dvbstreamhandler.cpp:214 (RunTS) DVBSH(/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0): Device EOF detected |
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| [22:05:45] | justinh: | jedix: yeah a very long time ago |
| [22:05:52] | jedix: | justinh: any ideas why? |
| [22:06:02] | justinh: | jedix: never got to the bottom of it |
| [22:07:20] | jedix: | well, crap. |
| [22:07:33] | jedix: | thanks though |
| [22:07:53] | jedix: | justinh: do you have an saa7164? |
| [22:09:20] | justinh: | nope |
| [22:09:27] | justinh: | cx88 x3 |
| [22:09:46] | jedix: | okay, I thought it might be a driver issue |
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| [22:09:49] | jedix: | thanks |
| [22:09:50] | justinh: | oh wait a sec... |
| [22:10:02] | justinh: | it *might* be more than one thing trying to access the device |
| [22:10:10] | justinh: | you on ubuntu perchance? |
| [22:10:16] | jedix: | yes |
| [22:10:25] | justinh: | I hacked up the upstart script to prevent respawning |
| [22:10:48] | jedix: | why would you want to prevent respawning? |
| [22:10:53] | justinh: | how many mythbackend processes do you have? |
| [22:10:55] | jedix: | wouldn't that mean on crashes, you're screwed? |
| [22:10:59] | justinh: | jedix: I don't care |
| [22:11:14] | justinh: | you can't have multiple instances running, which is reportedly what can happen |
| [22:11:26] | jedix: | ah, okay |
| [22:11:26] | justinh: | I found it happening |
| [22:11:34] | jedix: | I'll check it out next time I see it |
| [22:12:00] | justinh: | mentioned it here & I think it was sphery who said others had seen the same thing & top men were scratching their heads about it |
| [22:12:32] | jedix: | my recordings that were happening were broken,b ut the correct size |
| [22:12:57] | jedix: | very annoying |
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| [22:16:57] | mattwj2002: | hey guys |
| [22:17:01] | mattwj2002: | I have 2 TB yeah! |
| [22:17:06] | ** mattwj2002 dances ** | |
| [22:22:51] | mattwj2002: | I all ready used up 50 GB since this morning |
| [22:22:52] | mattwj2002: | haha |
| [22:23:17] | mattwj2002: | so anyone here? |
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| [22:24:43] | mattwj2002: | hi hadees |
| [22:24:44] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [22:30:20] | n1md4: | hi |
| [22:31:10] | n1md4: | hey, mattwj2002, your 2tb drives, are they loud? I've a pair in raid1 and they're very loud when being writen to. |
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| [22:31:37] | jedix: | n1md4: that'd depend on the make |
| [22:32:14] | n1md4: | hitachi deskstar ( i think) |
| [22:33:27] | n1md4: | I've an okay mythtv rig now, but I'd love a silent pc :) |
| [22:35:36] | mattwj2002: | hi n1md4 |
| [22:35:41] | mattwj2002: | I only have one |
| [22:35:49] | mattwj2002: | and no it is silent |
| [22:37:01] | n1md4: | 2tb sdd .... drools!! |
| [22:37:10] | mattwj2002: | :O |
| [22:37:14] | mattwj2002: | ssd? |
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| [22:37:40] | n1md4: | solid state device (i was dreaming, I don't have one ; ) |
| [22:37:53] | mattwj2002: | haha |
| [22:38:08] | mattwj2002: | I rather have a hot blond! |
| [22:38:10] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [22:42:26] | mattwj2002: | n1md4 what are you recording? |
| [22:42:37] | mattwj2002: | cable ota etc? |
| [22:42:47] | stuartm: | n1md4: for media drives you want quiet 5400 rpm offerings rather than 'fast' solutions offer 7200 rpm or faster |
| [22:43:26] | ** mattwj2002 is recording CNN around the clock ** | |
| [22:43:26] | stuartm: | for me Samsung was always the best, but that will probably change now that they've been bought out by Seagate |
| [22:43:28] | mattwj2002: | :P |
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| [22:43:58] | tgm4883: | unless you have an unlimited supply of money, or want to record very little, SSD's for recordings seems not worth it |
| [22:44:14] | stuartm: | still, those last Samsung designed models are still available, just rebranded as Seagate (same model numbers) |
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| [22:44:38] | tgm4883: | I've got 4 7200RPM 2TB hitachi's in a NAS and it's pretty dang quiet |
| [22:45:00] | stuartm: | tgm4883: the NAS is hidden in a basement? :) |
| [22:45:10] | tgm4883: | stuartm, nope, spare room |
| [22:45:33] | tgm4883: | sits right next to my MBE |
| [22:45:54] | mattwj2002: | if some big news event happens |
| [22:46:00] | mattwj2002: | I'll have a record of it! |
| [22:46:01] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [22:46:13] | mattwj2002: | it is only 1 GB per hour |
| [22:46:22] | mattwj2002: | roughly |
| [22:47:08] | tgm4883: | eh, not my cup of tea but I suppose that works |
| [22:47:17] | tgm4883: | not exactly high quality it seems |
| [22:47:59] | mattwj2002: | yeah I don't know |
| [22:48:07] | mattwj2002: | I am doing it more because I can :) |
| [22:48:37] | stuartm: | mattwj2002: if a big event happens it will be 24 hours of worthless and wildly inaccurate speculation with very little factually correct reporting |
| [22:49:02] | mattwj2002: | good point |
| [22:49:50] | tgm4883: | that is my thoughts as well |
| [22:50:19] | tgm4883: | also, we live in an age now where if something big did happen, there would be endless backups of the footage all over the internet |
| [22:51:15] | mattwj2002: | good point |
| [22:51:18] | justinh: | ahh God bless iPlayer, wiping away the crud of today with The Thick of It |
| [22:51:28] | mattwj2002: | have you guys ever seen the 9–11 archive? |
| [22:51:38] | stuartm: | the next day when it transpires that their pundits have blown a non-story out of all proportion in a live broadcast game of chinese whispers they'll simply develop amnesia and forget that they declared a simple gas leak to be a major terrorist Sarin nerve gas attack with predicted death tolls in the thousands |
| [22:51:55] | justinh: | tgm4883: yeah, Youtube user MeToo12387687 reposted all the videos he found as his own, as did MeToo435678543678 |
| [22:52:31] | tgm4883: | justinh, search&filter, go off user ratings |
| [22:52:32] | ** justinh wonders how many videos on youtube are actually unique anyway. ** | |
| [22:52:44] | justinh: | meh. life is too short for youtube |
| [22:53:35] | justinh: | buggers, spoiling reviews for everything by not actually posting reviews, just video of themselves opening a fricking box |
| [22:53:53] | justinh: | now I search for $PRODUCT review -youtube by default |
| [22:54:28] | stuartm: | 24 hr news is stupefying, I suspect it has a negative affect on IQs which is contrary to the expected educational benefits |
| [22:54:53] | justinh: | heh even hourly news is stupefying |
| [22:55:19] | justinh: | I catch the news on the radio in the car on my way to work, in depth – then on the way home & very little has changed |
| [22:56:09] | justinh: | and why does anybody need to see a journolist at the scene where nothing in particular is happening? I can imagine what a location looks like |
| [22:56:43] | justinh: | here's the scene at bloke's house, where our reporter has been for the last two days.. to say.. the suspect has still not come home |
| [22:57:11] | mattwj2002: | lol |
| [22:57:20] | mattwj2002: | nice justinh |
| [22:57:41] | justinh: | if it's in France, just chromakey the reporter in front of a slide of the Eiffel fricking tower |
| [22:57:54] | justinh: | etc |
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| [22:58:22] | stuartm: | it's definitely suffered as a result of the BBC et al maintaining a 24hr news department, instead of putting on a decent, concise and 'just the facts' one hour news programme they just join the 24hr news channel for 40 minutes |
| [22:58:25] | justinh: | I've always imagined their angle is 'just in case something happens on camera'.. but when does it? |
| [22:58:50] | ** justinh blames Sky. they do it, so the BBC feel obliged ** | |
| [23:00:36] | stuartm: | one hour of news a day was always enough in the past, for the simple fact that nothing much happens even on the busiest of days and it removed the temptation for people to stop reporting and start commenting |
| [23:00:38] | justinh: | some people I work with were in a coach crash a few years back. A fella committed suicide by leaping out in front of their vehicle on the motorway. This was on a Sunday night – on the Monday morning I heard about it on the radio & when I got to work I had to make my way past reporters trying to ask me what I felt about it all. I wrote & complained about their insensitivity |
| [23:01:41] | justinh: | what I *felt* about it? Not news, very disappointed in the BBC for that |
| [23:04:53] | justinh: | stuartm: yeah the rolling news aspect I could probably live with more if they didn't have pundits |
| [23:05:21] | justinh: | hey, pundit.. conject for 10 minutes while we show another loop of the footage |
| [23:06:20] | justinh: | oh, no more recordings happening til tomorrow.. time to hit the restart server buttons again, this time mythbackend and mysql.. more query tweaking tuneage |
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| [23:10:13] | justinh: | key buffer was set at 8M.. gonna try 128 to see if the scheduler is any quicker with that |
| [23:10:14] | stuartm: | justinh: the speculation gets to me most, they'll start reporting something long before they have the concrete facts of it, and ultimately when all the details are know it often turns out to be a story they wouldn't even have run in the past, something that's neither important nor very interesting |
| [23:11:13] | justinh: | aye |
| [23:11:25] | stuartm: | s/know/known/ |
| [23:11:46] | justinh: | the BBC say they're all about fact checking – which is fine for what they say are facts but until then, they just spin |
| [23:12:09] | justinh: | still, Five Live is good for falling asleep to |
| [23:12:29] | justinh: | it's almost as monotonous as counting sheeps |
| [23:14:29] | justinh: | hey ho, what can we do.. modern society. If nobody watched it they likely wouldn't do it anymore |
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| [23:19:38] | mattwj2002: | justinh it is just cool to record a channel around the clock |
| [23:19:51] | mattwj2002: | I have done that with a music channel before |
| [23:19:58] | mattwj2002: | but that channel went off the air :( |
| [23:21:04] | mattwj2002: | 1 GB / hr isn't that much |
| [23:21:17] | wagnerrp: | for audio-only? yikes |
| [23:21:25] | mattwj2002: | no |
| [23:21:27] | mattwj2002: | video |
| [23:21:31] | mattwj2002: | and audio |
| [23:22:16] | mattwj2002: | okay maybe a little over 1.1 GB/hr |
| [23:22:29] | mattwj2002: | I have a 6 hour recording 6.9 GB |
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| [23:32:40] | n1md4: | mattwj2002: I use mythtv for videos more than tv recordings ... but, i did just get the entire red dwarf series! on channel dave ;) |
| [23:33:07] | n1md4: | stuartm: that's true, i'll have to keep an eye out for some |
| [23:33:18] | n1md4: | stuartm: would ssd be beneficial? |
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| [23:47:28] | mattwj2002: | you use it more for videos |
| [23:47:30] | mattwj2002: | cool |
| [23:47:36] | mattwj2002: | never heard anyone say that |
| [23:47:37] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:48:06] | wagnerrp: | as in... home videos? |
| [23:48:27] | mattwj2002: | of course wagnerrp ;) |
| [23:48:47] | wagnerrp: | i mean i have more archived content than recordings |
| [23:49:00] | wagnerrp: | theyre in the Video Library, but i wouldnt call them "videos" |
| [23:50:30] | mattwj2002: | I have 4 tuners |
| [23:50:31] | mattwj2002: | :D |
| [23:50:50] | mattwj2002: | I am so happy with my setup right now |
| [23:51:05] | mattwj2002: | 4 clearqam tuners |
| [23:51:07] | mattwj2002: | 2 TB |
| [23:51:11] | mattwj2002: | I am in heaven! |
| [23:54:00] | mattwj2002: | I am guessing it will be filled within a week two tops |
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