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Sunday, September 30th, 2012, 00:00 UTC

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Greek-Boy:

Hello fellow MythTV users

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jst_:

has anyone used the ceton infinitv 4 here? just wondering how stable it is.

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Greek-Boy:

nope

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Greek-Boy:

sorry

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Greek-Boy:

wish I could find something for sattelive tv

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kyew:

formerly a mythdora user, reformatted and installed mythbuntu 12.04 (32 bit), have two hauppauge 1600 cards that both worked in separate backends, now both in same box. Get picture from both cards but audio only on 2nd one. Am I having a driver conflict?

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whyzzyrd:

good morning. I'm having trouble with my slave backend "disconnecting" from the master with el following log message

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whyzzyrd:

mythmaster mythbackend[1384]: E Scheduler mythsocket.cpp:534 (readStringList) MythSocket(9c6e1b0:47): readStringList: Error, timed out after 30000 ms.

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[R]:

does it happen often?

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whyzzyrd:

I'm running mythtv_0.25.0+fixes.20120410.1f5962a-0ubuntu1_all.deb

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whyzzyrd:

It's done it 3 times now over the last week

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whyzzyrd:

and it's denting the WAF somewhat, as it keeps "not recording the thing it was supposed to"..

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whyzzyrd:

There's nothing untoward in the mythbackend logs on the slave

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[R]:

that seems pretty ancien t

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[R]:

you should probably update it

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whyzzyrd:

one moment, I'll snag a proper version number. I got that from apt-cache

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whyzzyrd:

v0.25.2-25-g0817eb2

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whyzzyrd:

branch fixes/0.25

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[R]:

hrm, looks to be the latest

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[R]:

wagnerrp was talking about how its a known problem when the backend randomly locks up

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whyzzyrd:

It's only been doing it since I upgraded from an earlier 0.25

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whyzzyrd:

but quite what the older one was, I'm no sure

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whyzzyrd:

I believe it was 25.1 release

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whyzzyrd:

though it could have been a week or 2 before that.

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** whyzzyrd off to look and see if it logs package installs anywhere **

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whyzzyrd:

0.25.0+fixes.20120614.56fd9e2

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[R]:

my backend shuts down when its idle

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whyzzyrd:

was the last version I had

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[R]:

i never have any problmes

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whyzzyrd:

my master backend runs 24/7

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whyzzyrd:

My master backend is an epia, the slave backend is an atom.

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whyzzyrd:

the master backend doesn't lock up, because it still records things from its local card

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[R]:

it could be an error related to crappy undepowered cpus

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whyzzyrd:

I've plenty of spare cycles

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whyzzyrd:

I'm perfectly aware that the epia (despite the 1Ghz clock) is somewhat non-stellar

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whyzzyrd:

which is why it's not doing any playout.

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whyzzyrd:

in any case, what I was hoping to ask someone is, in this condition, once it's timed out, what re-initiates the connection? Does the master poke the slave to attempt a reconnect, or does the slave only attempt to reconnect at startup? How does the slave backend not know that it "fell off" and try again?

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whyzzyrd:

I wonder if it's the slave backend that locked up. I did have to kill -9 it to make it respawn.

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whyzzyrd:

I'll attach strace to it next time it does it

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Kuhne:

Failed listening on TCP [fe80::4a5d:60ff:feda:f83c%wlan0]:5100 – Error 9: The address is not a

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Kuhne:

vailable

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Kuhne:

Hi all! I have a problem with Airplay on a 0.25.2 system. I get alot of the above issues

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Kuhne:

Sorry about the strange posting, I pasted the wrong way

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Kuhne:

Anyone seen those error messages in mythfrontend.log?

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hume:

hi.. I'm in the process of moving my backend to a new server – but how do I best move an existing database and stored recordings? is an rsync for the recordings and export-import of database a way to go?

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russell5:

can i stop mythweb from running metadatalookup evry time i got into a programs detail page?

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just_Tom:

Hi all, I have an nVidia 9600GT card. Been using the old 173.x driver which works find, just no VDPAU. I've just made the jump to HD so now I need the VDPAU support. Problem is that 295.x won't detect my TV connected.

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just_Tom:

Anyone have experience with this, and have any advice on how to troubleshoot?

[14:38:32]

russell5:

using hdmi?

[14:38:40]

just_Tom:

the 295.x driver will drive my monitor just fine, but when I run the nvidia-settings, it doesn't detect the TV

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just_Tom:

no hdmi, component out

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jams:

didn't think nvidia did any auto detection for that. it's just one of those blind setups and tv-out needs to be setup in xorg.conf

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just_Tom:

jams, not sure exactly, but when I use the same xorg.conf that works for TV out from 173.x, TV out dosent work.

[14:43:18]

jams:

can you paste it in pastebin

[14:43:38]

just_Tom:

While running 173.x I can open up xorg.conf and see both my monitor and my TV, only one shows up when running 295.x

[14:43:48]

just_Tom:

pastebin – sure 1 sec

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jams:

are you saying that xorg.conf changes automaticlly when drivers are switched?

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just_Tom:

here is my xorg: http://pastebin.com/k8EaKfDq

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just_Tom:

jams, I've tried using the same xorg.conf from 173.x to 295.x with no luck. (this is what I jsut pasted here). I've also tried to create a enw one with no luck

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jams:

just_Tom ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_6 . . . igtvout.html

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jams:

add Option "UseDisplayDevice" "TV"

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just_Tom:

jams, I've actually tried that. It forces the driver to think there is a TV connected (just as if ti had detected one), so the xserver will actually start, but it is just a black screen on my TV

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Twiggy2cents:

just_Tom, what if you try the 304.x drivers from nvidias legacy/beta drivers?

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just_Tom:

Twiggy2cents, I *think* I tried something like a 302.x driver a while back (same results), but I could be wrong. Maybe I should give it another try.

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Twiggy2cents:

do you have the tv on when it the computer is restarted?

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jams:

just_Tom- sorry i don't really know much else

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just_Tom:

Twiggy2cents, yeah, TV is on when the computer is started, still no dice

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just_Tom:

jams, no worries, thanks for the help.

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jams:

just_Tom- not that it helps you any, but thats one of the main reasons I used to justify updating a couple TV's :) Made sure the new ones had dvi or vga, course now hdmi is defacto standard

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just_Tom:

Yeah, my 9600 doesn't have HDMI outs on it, but I tried using a DVI-> component cable. Kinda woked, but I think the cable may have been screwed up...

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jams:

well that would require having the right timings, lots of room for error there

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Twiggy2cents:

Have you referenced this? http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.p . . . 0#post721770

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just_Tom:

no, but I'll take a look

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just_Tom:

jams, do I need to mess with timing if I use Option "TVStandard" "HD1080i". thought that woudl set it for me?

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Hydr0p0nX:

hmmm

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Hydr0p0nX:

any idea of why i have 8GB ram and 7GB ram is used for cache

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Hydr0p0nX:

?

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jams:

Hydr0p0nX- the cache could be anything, but most likely it's filesystem data cache.

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jams:

nothing to worry about, the system will expunge it as needed it

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Hydr0p0nX:

k, i actually a small amount of swap space being used and got concerned

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Hydr0p0nX:

:)

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Hydr0p0nX:

by small, i mean ~4k

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Hydr0p0nX:

lol

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jams:

thats normal

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jams:

nothing to worry about

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earthw0rm:

Hi, I think the hard drive my OS is installed on is on the way out, I had a load of files corrupted the other day, and when I'd fixed them, the MythTV database seemed to have been corrupted as well, because it wasn't happy at start up

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earthw0rm:

Is there any point trying to recover the DB?

[17:15:45]

earthw0rm:

Do I need it to save my recordings?

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earthw0rm:

The actual video is on a separate HD

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jams:

you would lose all the metadate associated with the video, but the file itself would remain intact if you delted the database

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earthw0rm:

Will the file names make any sense?

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jams:

you could try running optimize_mythtdb.pl

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jams:

that should repair a table if needed

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earthw0rm:

Will I know what I've recorded just from the file name like, so I can drag all this back into a new Myth install?

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jams:

oh if mythtv recorded it the filename does make sense but its just a bunch of numbers

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jams:

go take a look for yourself

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earthw0rm:

Just numbers? Great.

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tank-man:

chann number – date

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tank-man:

stuff like that

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tank-man:

and if your db is messed up, the rename script probably wont work

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earthw0rm:

Useless in recovering the videos then, bugger.

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earthw0rm:

I should have known better than to use this old HD for the OS partition

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earthw0rm:

So my only choice is to go through the files and manually rename them all after watching them ...

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SparksIT:

I seem to be getting burst of white noise while playing video (live and recorded), If i watch them outside of myth they sound fine, I found a few similar issue, over at mythtv.org, they recommend change the sampling to force 44.8Khz but that didn't resolve it. I also tried using a different audio device but that didnt' resolve it either, I am using the latest version of mythbunut.

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whyzzyrd:

SparksIT, have you lengthened the audio buffer?

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whyzzyrd:

have a look in the mythfrontend log. Mine has some messages about that in it

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mattwj2002:

hi all

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mattwj2002:

how much storage do you guys have?

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mattwj2002:

:-s

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mattwj2002:

I only have 250 GB!

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Hydr0p0nX:

i have 3.7 tb

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mattwj2002:

I need more storage

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mattwj2002:

:(

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wagnerrp:

whyzzyrd: the issue [R] was talking about last night is a deadlock, where the handler threads in the backend protocol server become locked somewhere

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wagnerrp:

once they're all deadlocked in this section, you can still connect to the protocol server, but will never receive any responses to queries

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wagnerrp:

you can only fix it by restarting the backend

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wagnerrp:

the reasons that cause it are unknown, and none of the devs have yet been able to reproduce it

[19:31:31]

wagnerrp:

somewhere around 10TB

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mattwj2002:

10 TB wagnerrp :O

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whyzzyrd:

When I tried to kill the backend, it didn't die

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whyzzyrd:

I still had strace connected to it, was stuck in a futex

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mattwj2002:

nice! :D

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whyzzyrd:

kill -9 got it tho :)

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whyzzyrd:

I've ~3TB

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wagnerrp:

why do you have two backends?

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whyzzyrd:

2 tuners

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wagnerrp:

can be used just fine in a single backend

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mattwj2002:

I have 4 tuners too :(

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wagnerrp:

assuming you had ones with enough expansion slots to hold them

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whyzzyrd:

wagnerrp, got a PCI slot multiplier?

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whyzzyrd:

My master has 1 slot, full of DVB-S card

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whyzzyrd:

my playout box (which is adjacent to the DVB-T antenna outlet has a DVB-T card in it

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mattwj2002:

I have a hdhomerun original

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mattwj2002:

and a homerun prime

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whyzzyrd:

The master's a CN10000 epia, the slave a 1.6G atom

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mattwj2002:

the prime doesn't have a cable card I am just using it for clearqam

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whyzzyrd:

I have no possibility of getting cable here.

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mattwj2002:

bummer whyzzyrd

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mattwj2002:

all I have is basic cable

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mattwj2002:

:)

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whyzzyrd:

I was considering putting a USB DVB-T tuner on the master, but I'm not very keen, as it's a horrible kludge really

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mattwj2002:

less than $20 usd per month include tax fees etc

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whyzzyrd:

all my stuff is FTA

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whyzzyrd:

Though I've 2 dishes and 4 LNBs

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mattwj2002:

nice whyzzyrd

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mattwj2002:

:D

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mattwj2002:

I am jealous!

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mattwj2002:

are you in Europe?

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whyzzyrd:

Scotland

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mattwj2002:

I have looked at sat maps

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mattwj2002:

there is a lot of good stuff in the sky in Europe

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mattwj2002:

:)

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whyzzyrd:

I have most euro language channels available, which is cool for the klitscho boxing on RTL etc

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mattwj2002:

a lot of it unencrypted a free for grabs!

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mattwj2002:

:D

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mattwj2002:

*and

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mattwj2002:

heck even in the US there is some stuff on DVB-S (at least there use to be)

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whyzzyrd:

We stream a wad of it at work (19 transponders worth)

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whyzzyrd:

for our language lab

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mattwj2002:

neato

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whyzzyrd:

florian lohoff's getstream FTW

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mattwj2002:

in the US I would love to get some locals from around the country but I live in an apartment (hard to put up a dish)

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whyzzyrd:

wagnerrp: Anything useful I could do after it's crashed?

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wagnerrp:

nope, just restart

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mattwj2002:

ftw?

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mattwj2002:

you mean fta?

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whyzzyrd:

I can't seem to get gdb to attach to it (ptrace issues on mythbuntu), though strace works pretty perfectly

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whyzzyrd:

For The Win

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mattwj2002:

oh !

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mattwj2002:

:)

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whyzzyrd:

People keep telling me I ought to reimplement it using DVBlast, but while it works, I suspect I'll stay with what I know

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mattwj2002:

guys should I do it?

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whyzzyrd:

wagnerrp, I've got a reasonable idea of when it started doing this (for me) (between the updates of the 14th June, and the latest). However, I thought I might catch it because it did it 3 times this morning, but it's behaved since I've had strace attached to it.

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mattwj2002:

64 gb thumb drive usb 2.0 for $32 usd

[19:47:39]

mattwj2002:

store brand

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whyzzyrd:

that'll take forever to write no?

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mattwj2002:

not really

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mattwj2002:

I have a 32 gb version it is pretty good

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whyzzyrd:

how much is a 320G USB2 external SATA drive?

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mattwj2002:

hmmm

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mattwj2002:

let me check

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mattwj2002:

$60

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whyzzyrd:

not quite as pocket sized though.

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whyzzyrd:

wagnerrp, does 0.25.1 release crash like this?

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mattwj2002:

yeah

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whyzzyrd:

I've a 2TB drive stuck to the top of my case, screws through the case, cables through a punched hole.. I didn't have space for 2 drives inside :)

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mattwj2002:

lol

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mattwj2002:

:P

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whyzzyrd:

The case is a morex 2699

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toad:

how do i get mythbackend to start deleting stuff?

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whyzzyrd:

toad: erm, run out of space, and have stuff with autoexpiry set IIRC

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toad:

i want to shrink its partition... i believe it maintains a certain percentage free?

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mattwj2002:

got to go

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mattwj2002:

bye

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tgm4883:

toad, it keeps free what you tell it to keep free

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tgm4883:

If you want it to delete stuff, you either need to increase that amount, or better yet, just tell it to delete stuff

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toad:

i can't find the config

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toad:

where is it?

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toad:

i'm sure i saw one a long time ago for how much space to keep free

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tgm4883:

toad, why don't you just tell it to delete stuff?

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tgm4883:

either via the frontend or mythweb

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whyzzyrd:

just chuck up the menu and delete some stuff, then wait for it to do it.

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whyzzyrd:

I presume you put on "slow delete"

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toad:

how? you mean just delete stuff manually? how do i delete stuff of lowest priority?

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toad:

i tried with slow delete turned off but it seemed to actually be deleting stuff when it was on so i turned it back on

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tgm4883:

toad, define lowest priority

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wizbit:

if i have a recording with no preview, and zero bytes, marked as 'B', it crashes mythpreview gen, and that crashes mythbackend, anybody else have this problem?

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wizbit:

it only crashes when i view the recordings on a frontend

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n1md4:

hello. can any one help me with subtitles on ripped dvds that i like to play through mythtv?

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n1md4:

i have an .srt file, but not sure how to select them during playback.

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n1md4:

found the answer ... press M.

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stuartm:

don't strip the subtitles when ripping?

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justinh:

don't talk to me about ripping. Oh man, costing me a fortune in trial versions of programs

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justinh:

wife said "so can't we just get the DVD player back out of the loft?". SO I put in this movie DVD & once she saw the good few minutes of unskippables encouraged me to persist. Didn't tell her we could've skipped those bits with an el-cheapo player ;-)

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justinh:

anyway of all the times we could possibly pick to go *back* to DVD, this'd be one of the worst. 2 year old boy + DVDs = unplayable DVDs in short order, and probably broken DVD player

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justinh:

I said "hey, maybe we could buy a DVD recorder for all your telly too"... "Oh no, I still remember what it was like trying to find a blank tape when we still used the video". Hahaha. Wives

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Greek-Boy:

any of you here run cubox?

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mtrax:

hi got a major problem with my MythWeb package , any experts about?

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mtrax:

PHP Fatal error: Call-time pass-by-reference has been removed in /usr/share/mythtv/bindings/php/MythBase.php on line 50

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Greek-Boy:

You on ubuntu?

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mtrax:

Fedora 17

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mtrax:

line says Cache::setObject($this->cacheKey, &$this, $this->cacheLifetime);

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mtrax:

just updated my ATRPMS package and that broke it

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mtrax:

so just looking for a workaround while it gets fixed

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mtrax:

found ticket which fixes this bug http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10504

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mtrax:

working now

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bill6502:

alcor.mythtv.org doesn't seem to be processing smolt data. My FE takes 16 seconds to get a menu. (Running: sendProfile.py --submitOnly -a -d returns: Error contacting Server: HTTP Error 500: Internal error.)

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jams:

it's working, it just doesn't like your data. This a new setup or an update?

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bill6502:

Just a "30 day" update.

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jams:

whats your uuid?

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jams:

you can pm if you want

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