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Saturday, September 29th, 2012, 00:02 UTC
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[01:28:29] BurnOut: what is the easiest way to remove channels after install ?
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[01:33:45] BurnOut: my cable company provides 70 channels of analog, 70 channels of HD, 70 channels of music and 200–300 encrypted channels all of which show up in my system
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[01:34:39] [R]: um
[01:34:42] [R]: theres a checkbox
[01:34:45] [R]: for ignoring encrypted
[01:35:11] BurnOut: I saw that one .. and thought I'd marked it
[01:35:41] [R]: you can hit d in the channel editor in mythtv-setup...
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[01:48:08] BurnOut: weird .. but thanks
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[02:12:48] mattwj2002: hi guys
[02:12:49] mattwj2002: :D
[02:14:26] mattwj2002: I get basic cable tomorrow
[02:14:27] mattwj2002: yeah
[02:14:28] mattwj2002: :D
[02:14:44] mattwj2002: I hate freaking cable guys though
[02:15:28] mattwj2002: last time I had them hook up my tv they hook it up back a$$ ward
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[02:16:46] mattwj2002: anyone here?
[02:19:58] BurnOut: that's pretty normal
[02:21:22] mattwj2002: true
[02:25:15] BurnOut: so what are you running myth on ?
[02:27:25] mattwj2002: dual core
[02:27:39] mattwj2002: it is like an Amd 1.3 Ghz dual core
[02:27:49] mattwj2002: AM6 I think
[02:28:27] BurnOut: I'm using an HDHomeRun dual .. and trying to figure out which machine to use as backend
[02:30:28] mattwj2002: nice
[02:30:34] mattwj2002: I have an HDhomerun as well
[02:30:35] mattwj2002: :D
[02:30:55] mattwj2002: I love it
[02:31:10] mattwj2002: BurnOut I have a question
[02:31:37] mattwj2002: an HDHomeRun will work with clear qam too right?
[02:31:45] mattwj2002: if you don't have a cable card
[02:32:01] mattwj2002: oops
[02:32:07] BurnOut: yes..
[02:32:09] mattwj2002: I meant HDHomeRun Prime
[02:32:33] mattwj2002: since I am getting cable I should drag that thing out!
[02:32:36] mattwj2002: :)
[02:32:51] BurnOut: that's what I was reading .. yesterday I think ... while looking for a easy solution to my channel problem
[02:33:02] mattwj2002: what is your channel problem?
[02:33:45] BurnOut: for my provider .. my hdhomerun and my embeded tuner all see like 600 channels not counting music
[02:34:27] mattwj2002: do you have the prime?
[02:34:47] BurnOut: and even if I mark the skip encrypted channels I still have 400+ channels of which only 140 are valid
[02:34:52] BurnOut: no dual
[02:34:58] mattwj2002: weird
[02:35:52] BurnOut: all together .. I have a hdhomerun dual (2 tuner) and another system with a built in tuner
[02:35:56] mattwj2002: oh
[02:36:00] mattwj2002: I know the problem!
[02:36:01] mattwj2002: :)
[02:36:07] mattwj2002: are you scanning?
[02:36:14] BurnOut: yes
[02:36:14] mattwj2002: or just dumping?
[02:36:34] mattwj2002: hmmm
[02:36:40] BurnOut: both myth and win media center see 600 channels
[02:36:50] mattwj2002: oh weird
[02:37:04] mattwj2002: must be your provider
[02:37:22] mattwj2002: and how they encode it
[02:37:33] BurnOut: obviously :-)
[02:37:44] mattwj2002: who is your provider if I may ask?
[02:37:52] BurnOut: Suddenlink
[02:37:57] mattwj2002: hmm
[02:38:01] mattwj2002: never heard of them
[02:38:01] Hydr0p0nX: hooray ! beer
[02:38:09] mattwj2002: !beer
[02:38:17] mattwj2002: ! beer
[02:40:42] BurnOut: they are nice the provide both analog and HD for the same price ... which for my plan it means 140 channels .. plus 70 music (which myth skips) which leaves another 390 slots
[02:41:44] BurnOut: a real pain to edit in the channel editor
[02:41:58] mattwj2002: I understand
[02:42:28] mattwj2002: have you ever heard of the mohu leaf antenna?
[02:42:35] BurnOut: nope
[02:42:49] mattwj2002: someone was just telling me how great it is
[02:44:00] BurnOut: I've got cable on one input and a 30 year old set of rabbit ears on the other
[02:44:14] mattwj2002: nice
[02:44:37] BurnOut: 20 channels OTH here in Austin, TX
[02:46:27] mattwj2002: neat
[02:46:50] BurnOut: but not all OTH channels are on the cable
[02:47:11] mattwj2002: yeah I know
[02:47:19] mattwj2002: I am keeping over the air too
[02:47:20] mattwj2002: :)
[02:47:31] mattwj2002: we have Antenna TV here
[02:47:36] mattwj2002: I don't think they are on cable
[02:47:52] mattwj2002: plus we have some low power stations as well
[02:47:54] mattwj2002: same deal
[02:51:00] mattwj2002: BurnOut have you seen Revolution at all?
[02:51:09] BurnOut: yep .. both episodes
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[02:56:04] mattwj2002: isn't it cool?
[02:56:17] BurnOut: yes..
[02:57:03] BurnOut: be interesting to see it play out
[02:57:08] mattwj2002: I am sure it won't make more than a season or tow
[02:57:11] mattwj2002: *Two
[02:57:17] mattwj2002: good series never too
[02:57:19] mattwj2002: *do
[02:57:32] BurnOut: that's the joke around here ... if we like it .. it get canceled
[02:57:39] mattwj2002: yup
[02:58:03] mattwj2002: it doesn't have some stupid reality stars
[02:58:06] mattwj2002: it won't last
[02:58:48] BurnOut: I refuse to watch "reality" tv
[02:59:11] mattwj2002: I hear you
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[05:48:45] kflynn: hello
[05:49:51] kflynn: Can anyone tell me a better way to rescan for videos in .24, other than #mythbackend --upnprebuild ?
[05:49:51] kflynn: besides the gui
[05:52:32] kflynn: What I'm looking for is a cmd line alternative to the gui option, M, then Scan for Changes
[05:54:03] wagnerrp: thats it, only the UI
[05:54:58] kflynn: Thanks, guess I'll have to continue to use "Enable Browse Mode" for now with .24
[05:55:24] wagnerrp: "file browse mode" has all kinds of funky behavior you dont want to mess with
[05:55:32] wagnerrp: just scan any time you rip a new dvd
[05:57:43] kflynn: yeah, speaking of that. I put in a Optical.xml menu option in to rip my dvds with a vobcopy -l script, that works for now. Any better suggestions?
[05:58:56] wagnerrp: at the moment, no... someone needs to rewrite the old rip capacity with some mechanism that supports storage groups
[05:59:14] kflynn: ug. this is ugly so don't roll out of your chair.
[05:59:15] kflynn: #!/bin/bash
[05:59:15] kflynn: xmessage -fg black -bg green -font -bitstream-*-*-*-*-*-33-*-*-*-*-*-*-* DVD Import Started,Please Wait until Disc Ejects. -timeout 3&&\
[05:59:15] kflynn: mount /dev/dvd&&cd /myth/video/Movies&&vobcopy -l&&eject /dev/dvd&&\
[05:59:15] kflynn: #export DISPLAY=:0&&xmessage -timeout 3 Dvd Copied to Movies
[05:59:15] kflynn: xmessage -fg black -bg green -font -bitstream-*-*-*-*-*-33-*-*-*-*-*-*-* DVD Import Complete-Remove Disk From Tray -timeout 5
[05:59:18] kflynn: &&mythbackend --upnprebuild&&
[05:59:45] wagnerrp: wont do anything anyway
[05:59:46] kflynn: it's that last part I was trying to get working, but as you know it does not
[05:59:55] wagnerrp: considering --upnprebuild is for... upnp
[05:59:59] wagnerrp: nothing to do with the video library
[06:00:06] kflynn: yeah , i had a misunderstanding of that
[06:00:40] kflynn: it prints out pretty text about scanning /myth/video but like you said, really nothing
[06:00:43] wagnerrp: in 0.25, the UPnP server draws from the video library database tables, rather than performing its own scan
[06:00:48] wagnerrp: so --upnprebuild has gone away
[06:01:25] kflynn: i'm not quite ready for .25, i'm mplayer dependent on my playback of videos for now
[06:02:15] kflynn: i saw a reference to using a direct mysql update
[06:02:19] kflynn: but that would be nasty too
[06:02:37] wagnerrp: not sure what mplayer is necessary for
[06:02:45] wagnerrp: if the internal player cannot handle something, file a ticket on trac
[06:03:05] wagnerrp: although 0.24 is ~2yrs old now, no sense filing a playback ticket against it
[06:03:24] kflynn: it had to do more with comparing it playing back vobs to the internal, i couldn't tune the internal well enough to suit me
[06:03:43] wagnerrp: additionally, mplayer is incapable of resolving the myth:// links used with storage groups, and it cannot stream the content remotely from the backend
[06:04:18] kflynn: agread , using old school nfs for that with no sg on /myth/videos
[06:04:40] kflynn: no web interface to mythweb at all though
[06:04:48] kflynn: because of the sg req
[06:07:27] kflynn: ahh well, works good enough for my needs for now. Thanks Wagnerrp
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[06:27:29] tmonkeype69: wagnerrp: xbmc is working again using the myth:// video source.
[06:31:15] tmonkeype69: however, the mythbox plugin for xbmc is still borked.
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[15:13:45] skd5aner: I've got a custom recordng rule, that find anytime a specific college team is playing football, but it's recording the games on both the SD and HD channels at the same time
[15:13:48] skd5aner: how do I prevent that?
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[15:16:58] skd5aner: I believe it's because the callsigns between the SD and HD versions of the network aren't the same. blah, dumb bug
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[15:21:35] neufeld_AFK: skd5aner: do you do duplicate detection on the recording settings?
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[15:27:54] skd5aner: neufeld_AFK: yea... but this post from sphery points out the bug – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/496754#496754
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[15:32:08] TheAsp: Hi, I just bought a HVR-2250. It seems to be recording the analog channels too loud. They sound like ass. Anyway to fix that?
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[15:39:02] neufeld_AFK: skd5aner: OK. Strange, I don't see that behaviour. I've got custom recording rules, and we get loads of shows broadcast at the same time on different channels because we have Canadian broadcasts simultaneous with the US network broadcasts.
[15:39:27] skd5aner: yea, I'm not sure why it happens with this rule, but not with others?
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[15:48:28] jarle: Any ideas as to what is keeping 0.26 from being released?
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[18:24:33] tgm4883: jarle, bugs
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[18:59:11] jarle: I'm struggling to get digital audio output working correctly on one of my frontends (a mac mini running mythbuntu), is it recommended running pulseaudio or not on frontends?
[18:59:51] wagnerrp: pulseaudio does not support digital passthrough
[18:59:57] wagnerrp: so if you want digital, you dont want pulseaudio
[19:00:44] jarle: wagnerrp: but in mythtv you can set a separate output for digital audio....
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[19:01:39] wagnerrp: the only reason one might want to use pulseaudio is because they either want to be able to dynamically switch between outputs without application support for such, or they want to pump audio to a remote device across the network
[19:02:23] jarle: wagnerrp: I HAD it working with pulseaudio as default output, and ALSA:iec958 as digital output, but the after a restart the digital sound is gone :(
[19:03:43] jarle: my impression has always been that having pulseaudio installed just makes the whole audio setup on linux more complicated..
[19:04:57] wagnerrp: if you actually WANT to do something complicated, its easier to configure than ALSA
[19:05:07] wagnerrp: but for most purposes, it is unnecessary
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[19:06:10] jarle: all I want is to have both analog and digital audio go through the same spdif cable into my receiver
[19:06:29] wagnerrp: SPDIF is digital only, it does not do analog
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[19:10:29] jarle: but I should still be able to send analog audio to the sound card and have it transported over the spdif (toslink) cable
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[19:11:04] wagnerrp: no, computers are digital, there is no analog
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[19:15:06] wagnerrp: audio only becomes analog after passing through the DAC in your sound card
[19:15:12] wagnerrp: prior to that, its all digital audio
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[21:03:54] n1md4: hello. I've got a working mythtv system, and occassion rip a dvd to watch there too. some movies are foreign and have subtitles, but I'm unsure how (or if it's possible) to 'attach' them. Any help?
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[21:22:58] [R]: i think it looks for .srt files with the same name as the movie
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[21:38:15] n1md4: [R]: thanks, i'll try something
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[23:09:06] mattwj2002: hi guys
[23:09:15] mattwj2002: I need a little help please :)
[23:09:32] mattwj2002: I am trying to update the xmlidtv manually
[23:09:54] mattwj2002: how do I get mythfilldatabase to pull them down?
[23:12:51] mattwj2002: anyone here?
[23:17:30] [R]: what?
[23:17:58] mattwj2002: hi [R]
[23:18:12] mattwj2002: I have some channels that are not in my guide
[23:18:32] [R]: the channels aren't or the guide data isn't
[23:19:04] mattwj2002: the guide data isn't coming down
[23:19:15] mattwj2002: the channels have no program data
[23:19:25] mattwj2002: this is cable
[23:20:42] [R]: ok
[23:20:45] [R]: so put the xmltvid
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[23:23:43] mattwj2002: I did
[23:23:57] mattwj2002: I ran mythfilldatabase and nothing
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