MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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MythLogBot, tlhiv_laptop, Cougar, natanoj, NightMonkey, zoktar, zombor, CiaranG, dj_segfault, IReboot, emmanuelux, J-e-f-f-A, knightr, sid3windr, jarle, kinsel8, lis0r, sraue, sunkan, ubIx, justdave, kwmonroe, Sharky112065, dekarl, joki, monkeypet69, StevenR, christ`, gregL, linuxtech, MMlosh, simcop2387, peterpops, jpabq, kormoc, lapion, ServerSage, brfransen, dougl, Hoochster, Peps, ertyu_, Muzer, Twiggy2cents, _charly_, caelor_, toeb, _abbenormal, baggy, benc_, RagingComputer, seld, thayward, Azelphur, darkstarbyte, RagingMind, trumee, aloril, Captain_Murdoch, Cardoe, [mrx], deathadder, dmz, k-man, nutron, squidly, anykey_, damaltor, jm|laptop, sulx, jstenback, tgm4883, ChanServ, rhpot1991, tank-man, tris, troyt, d0netsFN, jams, sutula, FinnTux, Floppe, G, infojunky_, jduggan, LonEagle, neufeld_AFK, purserj, sphery, gigem, grumpydevil, JoeJulian, lotia, Metoer, akv, jbrett, rOOb, wolfgang, larrikin_, pgf, quicksilver, xris, AndyCap, clever, ghoti, kurre2, Slasher`, keith4, mzb, toorima, wagnerrp, wahrhaft, Beirdo, dinamic|screen, markcerv, MilkBoy, oobe, felipe`, justinh, peitolm, GreyFoxx, KaZeR, MissionCritical, Shadow__X, adante, EvilGuru, Heliwr, pigeon, hadees, TwiztedZero, hipitihop, duke21, fleers, ronoc-work, BLZbubba, andreax, dijonyummy, mycosys, Technophil1, Anoia, SparksIT, sheppard, dkeith, johnsu01`, mag0o_, ikevin-, desto, gpd_, Dave-road, laga_, Scopeuk-AFK, XDS2010, npm, dansushi, petefunk, Moscherkobold_, gergnz, highzeth_, kabtoffe, rsiebert, frontrange
Thursday, September 20th, 2012, 00:05 UTC
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[00:24:33] SparksIT: can any one help getting my back end to use my Hauppaug hvr-2250?
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[00:31:59] rhce7320: anybody had sucess in setting up mymote to a remote frontend? My sMymote finds the backend, but hangs when finding the frontend.
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[01:55:28] tekdoc: anyone know if the HDPVR2 will work with mythtv?
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[02:56:06] dj_segfault: Hi. I'm trying to find out why I have less than two weeks of guide data. And about a week and a half ago I noticed I only had three days data so I ran it manually. All the relevant information at http://pastebin.com/8cWZyJmC mythfilldatabase is running but I don't have the days of data I should. Thanks in advance.
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[03:04:52] [R]: try running with --dd-grab-all
[03:06:14] dj_segfault: I'll try that. Thanks. But will that fix it going forward?
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[03:06:33] [R]: dunno
[03:06:36] [R]: maybe
[03:07:00] dj_segfault: I guess it's worth a try. Thanks again.
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[15:43:14] louisdk: Hi. I'm trying to connect my frontend to my backend. My frontend is running Myhbuntu 12.04 w/ Mythtv 0.25 and my backend Debian Squeeze w/ Mythtv 0.24 from deb multimedia backports. But when I try to connect my frontend it fails to connect and the log on my backend is empty. Have started the backedn by running "mythbackend &" as normal user in a console. Do I need to setup my backend is a special way to allow my frontend to connect?
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[15:57:38] wagnerrp: yes, you need to configure your backend to upgrade to 0.25
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[15:58:25] ajuice: Yes, I think you need to make sure mysql has access via external IP's enabled.. by default it's only set to localhost or 127.0.0.1 and that the mythtv user can log in from external IP's
[15:58:45] ajuice: and as wager mentioned they have to be the same version
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[15:59:59] wagnerrp: depends on the distro... on freebsd, mysql defaults to listening everywhere
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[16:00:07] wagnerrp: not sure how debian sets up mysql
[16:00:21] wagnerrp: but most linux distros seem to lock it to the local system
[16:02:30] louisdk: My frontend runs 2:0.25.2+fixes.20120802.46cab93–0ubuntu1 and my backend runs 0.25.1-dmo1.squeeze2. Before I upgraded the backend it was 0.24 and I got the message that the protocol was unsupported. The backed run 63 but the frontend only suports 72.
[16:03:08] wagnerrp: meaning you upgraded some time in the previous 20 minutes?
[16:03:20] wagnerrp: some time since your first message?
[16:03:47] wagnerrp: 0.25.1 on debian and 0.25.2 from mythbuntu should be compatible
[16:03:53] wagnerrp: see ajuice's comment about the database
[16:04:05] wagnerrp: further, your backend must similarly be configured to listen on the network
[16:04:11] wagnerrp: by default, it only listens on 127.0.0.1
[16:04:25] wagnerrp: bue considering you got the protocol version warning, that is likely not a problem
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[16:17:00] louisdk: wagnerrp: I upgraded some days ago.
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[16:17:48] wagnerrp: so when you originally said you were running 0.24, you lied
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[16:58:50] louisdk: wagnerrp: I was a typing error. Sorry.
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[16:59:40] wagnerrp: the backend only logs to the terminal if you tell it to
[16:59:47] wagnerrp: erm... unless you tell it otherwise
[17:00:03] wagnerrp: meaning if you ran 'mythbackend &' and closed the terminal, it wouldn't log anywhere
[17:00:24] wagnerrp: see 'mythbackend --help', and specifically 'mythbackend --help logpath'
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[17:03:18] louisdk: I'm looking in my my.cnf on the backend. No "skip-networking" anywhere, however "bind-address = 127.0.0.1" is included. Should I add the ip of my frontend?
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[17:04:34] wagnerrp: no, that is specifying the address the database will bind to and listen on for connections
[17:04:51] wagnerrp: how would it listen on an address that does not exist?
[17:09:33] louisdk: The a ip address of my frontend does exist (192.168.1.133).
[17:12:37] louisdk: I've now started the mythbackend without "&" on my server and when restarting my frontend on the client it still says that it can't connect.
[17:13:56] wagnerrp: but it does not exist on the machine running the database server
[17:16:13] louisdk: Righẗ́
[17:16:31] wagnerrp: so, it does not exist for the database server to listen on
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[17:24:33] louisdk: But I still wonder why my frontend won't connect http://pastebin.com/0ARjsmY0 – IP of frontend *.145 – IP of backend: *.133
[17:25:47] wagnerrp: check your backend logs
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[17:29:11] louisdk: nothing unusual as I see it: http://pastebin.com/Dg5Rtwfd
[17:30:20] wagnerrp: your backend is only listening on 127.0.0.1
[17:30:43] wagnerrp: more over, the fact that it is not complaining about 192.168.1.133 not being available means you never told it to listen anywhere else
[17:30:54] wagnerrp: and since your frontend IS looking for it at that address
[17:31:08] wagnerrp: that means your frontend and backend are somehow using two separate databases
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[18:08:42] louisdk: I figured out that my frontend is on *.146 and told my backend that my locale backend it on *.146, but now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/i3ZsL8Yi
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[18:09:21] louisdk: Host is configured to listen on 192.168.1.146, but address is not used on any local network interfaces.
[18:09:40] wagnerrp: you said your backend was 133
[18:10:05] wagnerrp: you're running this on a machine with a static address, right?
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[18:21:29] louisdk: Well. Seems like I've done a lot of mistakes. I'll take a look at it another day when I'm not that tired.
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[19:31:37] justinh: oh boy. packaging stuff is way more involved than I ever thought it would be. Sure, making a deb or rpm is a piece of cake, but getting the scripts to do everything needed to turn an extracted archive into a working thing... can be a bit of a headache
[19:32:31] justinh: surprising how distro differences can be highlighted. e.g. install mysql or apache on ubuntu, they magically are configured to start & get started. Not the case on OpenSuSE & others.
[19:33:31] justinh: so, respect is due to all you packaging folks out there, trying to 2nd guess everything a silly user might do. It can turn a 50 line postinstall script into a 500 line+ bash opus
[19:43:25] dekarl: What is it that that so many people want more knobs to twist? (wrt Theme configuration dialogues) Just because its easier to throw a configuration option in then to come up with sensible settings or sensible algorythms does not make it better :(
[19:44:14] Oloryn_lt2: urg. #ubuntu-mythtv isn't answering so:
[19:44:20] Oloryn_lt2: Just got a Mythbuntu machine set up this week, running an Athlon 64 3200+ and a Hauppage HVR-1600, pulling ATSC signals off of broadcast. I note that while I have no problem watching HD channels live, playing back recorded HD programs is rather jumpy. Is this to be expected with this level of processor, or (as I suspect) would this indicate I need to work on hard drive speed?
[19:45:25] dekarl: Oloryn_lt2: Is that Mythbuntu 12.04LTS with updates to the latest MythTV 0.25-fixes?
[19:45:53] justinh: I'd expect a 3200+ Athlon 64 wouldn't have any problems with mpeg2, even HD
[19:46:33] justinh: even HDD speed shouldn't be an issue, since most HD is way less than 20Mbit/sec
[19:46:34] Oloryn_lt2: I don't think I've done any MythTV updates, other than the updates from the Mythbuntu repository.
[19:46:59] justinh: video driver problem? As in using Nvidia without their binary closed source driver?
[19:47:23] Oloryn_lt2: Using a GEForce 6200, with the Nvidia binary driver.
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[19:48:12] Oloryn_lt2: it is Mythbuntu 12.04LTS
[19:48:17] justinh: start mythfrontend with -v playback
[19:48:35] justinh: or maybe mythfrontend.real -v playback :-)
[19:50:40] Oloryn_lt2: Unfortunately, I'm not at home where the Mythbuntu box is. I can VPN to it, but that won't do me much good :) I was just wondering if watching live being OK, but watching recorded being jumpy pointed to anything in particular.
[19:51:20] justinh: they're pretty much the same thing
[19:51:41] justinh: livetv is playing back a recording of live tv in real time
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[19:54:42] Oloryn_lt2: So live is being written to, and read back from disk? I was thinking it might be handed directly from the capture card to display, as that would explain what I'm seeing. So much for that idea. I may jump back in here in a couple of days when I'm back home and have time to play.
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[19:55:03] justinh: Oloryn_lt2: nope. all tv in mythtv is a recording :-)
[20:01:17] Oloryn_lt2: O-K. Been playing with Linux (Slack and Ubuntu) for years, but this is the first time I've played with MythTV. I had someone give me the HVR-1600 long ago, and recently realized that I just about had enough pieces and parts to put together enough of a machine to give it a try. Picked up the Athlon and a fan for it for about $15 on ebay, and had or was given the rest. It should be better than what I've been doing, using an old V
[20:06:42] Oloryn_lt2: Meantime I think I have a workaround. I've set the recordings to be automatically transcoded, and the transcoded recording seems to play OK.
[20:07:55] devinheitmueller: Oloryn_lt2: your first message was truncated.
[20:08:04] devinheitmueller: "It should be better than what I've been doing, using an old V"
[20:08:22] Oloryn_lt2: It should be better than what I've been doing, using an old VCR attached to a digital converter, and having to remember to set the digital convert to the right channel for what I want to record for the day.  :)
[20:08:47] Oloryn_lt2: Sounds painful, I'm sure
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[20:09:24] devinheitmueller: Was there a question in there somewhere?
[20:10:07] Oloryn_lt2: No, any more questions will probably wait until the weekend when I'm in front of it again.
[20:10:42] devinheitmueller: Ok.
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[20:32:31] wagnerrp: you're not still using the digital converter are you?
[20:32:43] wagnerrp: you're running the antenna straight into the HVR-1600?
[20:37:17] Oloryn_lt2: Yes
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[21:42:55] frontrange: Can someone give me a clue why I cannot get my mythfrontend to use my nvidia card instead of the cheesy inbedded video card? This is on Mythbuntu 12.4.1
[21:43:01] frontrange: <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=AGiXESvL&q . . . ;/script>
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[23:22:25] SparksIT: any have any expeirnce setting up Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250?
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[23:28:00] wagnerrp: not that device in particular, but no one can help you until you ask a specific question
[23:28:54] SparksIT: I'm trying to set it up using the instrucitions found here: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200
[23:29:31] SparksIT: when I try to run the command cp *fw /lib/firmware it gives me permision denied
[23:30:10] wagnerrp: did you do this as root?
[23:30:12] SparksIT: I tried typing sudo prior to the command, and all i get is anouther prombpt
[23:30:24] wagnerrp: typically only root has write permission
[23:30:36] wagnerrp: typically 'sudo' is going to prompt you for your password
[23:31:59] SparksIT: I don't recall setting up a root account, I tried su but my password is failing – running mythbunut
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[23:32:25] wagnerrp: by default, ubuntu systems dont allow one to login to the root account
[23:32:50] wagnerrp: because somehow using sudo without a password for everything is more secure than just using root
[23:32:57] wagnerrp: never did understand that one personally
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[23:34:30] SparksIT: and here I thought the setting up a myth box wouldn't be too difficult...so what are my optins as sudo does't seem to work
[23:37:11] wagnerrp: perhaps try copying to the /lib/firmware/ directory, rather than try to overwrite that as the /lib/firmware file?
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[23:44:33] SparksIT: well..i'm an idiot the command with sudo did copy, I was just waiting on a response
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