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| [01:17:35] | tgm4883: | What is the expected behavior for the scheduler on schedules set to record max 10 episodes, when 10 episodes are recorded but some are marked as watched? |
| [01:17:41] | tgm4883: | on Master |
| [01:18:13] | wagnerrp: | it stops recording new episodes |
| [01:18:21] | tgm4883: | ok |
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| [01:18:40] | tgm4883: | so it's working as designed |
| [01:18:52] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, is that configurable? |
| [01:19:09] | tgm4883: | I would have thought that it would autoexpire the watched episodes |
| [01:19:21] | wagnerrp: | there is an option in the recording rule to delete old episodes to make room for new ones |
| [01:19:33] | wagnerrp: | im not aware if it factors watched status into what gets deleted |
| [01:19:39] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I don't recall seeing that, let me check |
| [01:19:39] | wagnerrp: | or if it just drops the olderrrst |
| [01:19:45] | wagnerrp: | *oldest |
| [01:21:08] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, are you talking "record new and expire old"? |
| [01:21:13] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [01:22:18] | tgm4883: | I haven't tested using that, as I know it will expire non-watched episodes |
| [01:22:55] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, in chance in a request to change the way that functions? |
| [01:23:25] | wagnerrp: | so it expires newer watched before older unwatched? |
| [01:23:52] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I've not tested that functionality with respect to having both watched and unwatched. |
| [01:25:04] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, basically, I have a pawn stars schedule, set to keep 10. There's like 15 episodes of pawn stars on per day, and I don't watch that much. It doesn't make sense to have it expire unwatched episodes and record more episodes |
| [01:26:04] | wagnerrp: | as i understand it, anything expired and unwatched is marked for re-record |
| [01:26:19] | wagnerrp: | so eventually, the duplicate detection should take care of it |
| [01:26:39] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, right, just doesn't make sense to use a waste a tuner and cause wear and tear on a drive |
| [01:27:53] | wagnerrp: | stick it at a low priority, so it's not "wasting" one |
| [01:28:03] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, I did, it's at -10 |
| [01:28:35] | wagnerrp: | in any case, not really my area, not sure who you would have to take that up with |
| [01:29:27] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ok. I just can't think of a use case for the "keep max X episodes" that would mean I would want to keep watched episodes instead of record new ones |
| [01:29:51] | tgm4883: | where I can see a use case for not using the "expire old, record new" setting here, it's not this use case |
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| [01:30:12] | tgm4883: | thanks for the info though |
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| [02:33:09] | bill6502: | wagnerrp: In the Wiki, I said " most timestamps of recordings are stored in UTC" because I didn't see originalairdate, next_record, last_record etc change in dbcheck.cpp. Or are they already in UTC? |
| [02:33:48] | wagnerrp: | dates do not have times, and thus cannot have time zones |
| [02:34:16] | wagnerrp: | any specific timestamp should be in UTC |
| [02:34:42] | wagnerrp: | and if not, its probably a chunk of the code that needs to be fixed |
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| [02:42:38] | wagnerrp: | any chance this empty SOIC-16 receive is where the boot ROM for my laptop would have gone? |
| [02:43:23] | monkeypet69: | How do I protect the new mythtv port 6544? |
| [02:43:31] | wagnerrp: | protect? |
| [02:43:41] | wagnerrp: | new? |
| [02:43:53] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:44:00] | [R]: | a magic spell? |
| [02:44:04] | ** [R] looks up the incantation ** | |
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| [02:45:49] | mattwj2002: | man I am in the OTA donut hole! |
| [02:45:54] | mattwj2002: | hi all |
| [02:46:04] | monkeypet69: | for mythweb I configured apache to use a password to access that site, and forwarded the port through my firewall. |
| [02:47:26] | wagnerrp: | its not new, that server has been around for as long as ive been using mythtv |
| [02:47:55] | mattwj2002: | good day wagnerrp |
| [02:48:18] | monkeypet69: | how crap and I just stumbled onto it a few days ago. |
| [02:48:28] | wagnerrp: | you've likely been using it all this time |
| [02:48:41] | wagnerrp: | thats where mythweb's status page comes from |
| [02:48:52] | wagnerrp: | mythweb just throws some CSS on it |
| [02:48:54] | mattwj2002: | I have two mythtv boxes and on hdhomerun tuner! |
| [02:48:59] | mattwj2002: | *one |
| [02:49:00] | mattwj2002: | :P |
| [02:49:32] | [R]: | mattwj2002: EXTREME |
| [02:50:01] | mattwj2002: | actually I could do a 3rd computer on that same single tuner |
| [02:50:02] | wagnerrp: | as far as protecting it, you protect it in the same manner you protect port 6543... dont expose it |
| [02:50:02] | mattwj2002: | haha |
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| [02:56:53] | monkeypet69: | Some of the streaming solutions for android works pretty well with mythtv 0.26, pretty happy about it. Also torc works well on the iOS. Also airplay to mythtv works, pretty psyched. |
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| [02:58:11] | monkeypet69: | Unfortunatelly, the raspberry pi solution using xbmc mythtv plugin failed, and as a upnp client also failed. |
| [02:58:48] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ever do anything with that simple services proxy i wrote for mythweb? |
| [03:00:24] | [R]: | whose shocked that the piece of crap rpi sucks |
| [03:00:30] | [R]: | or that xbmc doing myth sucks? |
| [03:00:32] | [R]: | NOT ME |
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| [06:25:29] | lautriv: | can anyone tell me why my mythtv-backends may flood messages about ringbuffer ? ( works but my logs growing faster than the recording ) |
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| [08:32:37] | lautriv: | anyone awake ? |
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| [08:59:04] | rigo_: | hi |
| [08:59:49] | rigo_: | is there another was but git to solve the protocol 72 error? http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/issues/detail?id=202 |
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| [09:39:22] | fugg: | hey, if i update myth on a slave-backend , mythtv-database tries to re-grant privileges on mythconverg from the master using root@backend and fails .... where does it assume the passwd from ? |
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| [10:21:46] | rigo_: | is there a way to decode the nagra3 with cccam under mythtv? |
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| [11:47:18] | stuartm: | MythTV doesn't support software cams and never will, it's hardware cams with a valid card or nothing |
| [11:49:15] | stuartm: | additionally discussion of software cams is forbidden in mythtv IRC channels and mailing lists because most people using them are looking to access material they haven't paid for (stealing) or they are breaching the Terms of their contracts with providers |
| [11:54:24] | fugg: | stuartm, hi ;) what may be wrong if a frontend freezing on option " exit and poweroff" where the configured command is "sgutdown -h now" and mythtv is in sudo group ? |
| [11:54:31] | fugg: | *shut |
| [11:55:48] | stuartm: | fugg: "sudo shutdown -h now" ? |
| [11:56:18] | fugg: | indeed |
| [11:56:25] | stuartm: | it shouldn't freeze though, unless it's waiting for a password ... |
| [11:56:50] | stuartm: | have you configured sudo to allow mythtv to run that command without a password? |
| [11:56:55] | fugg: | it's set to NOPASSWD |
| [11:57:38] | fugg: | also nothing logged.(except a ACPI-Client) |
| [11:58:17] | stuartm: | ok, first check that the frontend really is running under the 'mythtv' user, then switch to that user and try the command directly – just to rule out a problem with the sudo config |
| [12:00:12] | fugg: | that is unfortunately not possible because i have the user autologin and scripted a direct start of X/myth with respawn ( box is myth only ) |
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| [12:03:11] | stuartm: | ok, change the configured command to something that shouldn't block, e.g. "echo Test", if the frontend stops freezing then the problem is almost definitely in the sudo configuration, it's requesting user interaction that the frontend cannot provide |
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| [12:12:50] | fugg: | ok, will see soon. i found also a small annoying problem if mythtv-database gets upgraded on a slave-backend ( maybe only debian package related ) it tries to re-grant privs on mythconverg and fails because wrong db(local) and missing pass (root). |
| [12:14:45] | stuartm: | that's the package |
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| [12:16:45] | fugg: | if someone runs in the same trap and can't complete upgrade ( because of an error ) it's enought to write "exit 0" right after the shebang of mythtv-database.postinst because an earlier setup did it already correct. |
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| [12:17:06] | stuartm: | fwiw, Debian packages might still be doing stuff like intentionally linking the wrong libs which introduces a host of bugs, if using Debian we advise to build from source instead |
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| [12:18:43] | fugg: | stuartm, i had a bunch of issues but most were related to the database, since 0.25.2-dmo3 i got also rid of the problem with too less buffer ( tons of ringbuf messages in mythbackend.log ) |
| [12:19:29] | ** fugg -->eat, brb ** | |
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| [12:30:14] | fugg: | back |
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| [12:51:55] | fugg: | stuartm, i have another thing, not really myth related but for a diskless mythfrontend. box works fine from DHCP/TFTP but i try to increase reboot-speed and it fails with kexec -l /boot/kernel-3.5.3 --append=root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=10.0.0.254:/srv/node202,nolock,tcp,rw panic=30 reset=w ip=dhcp apm=on which is exact the same on netboot. any idea ? |
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| [13:06:38] | stuartm: | sorry, I've no experience with netboot etc |
| [13:18:03] | wagnerrp: | what is "reboot-speed"? |
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| [13:27:26] | rigo_: | anyone has any suggestions about n3/cccam software on mythtv? |
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| [13:29:30] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: you did warn him.... |
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| [14:08:27] | fugg: | wagnerrp, the time it needs to dhcp-req/dhcp-ack/tftp-get .... kexec would be a ton faster. |
| [14:09:12] | wagnerrp: | oh, you're not talking about some variable, you just mean trying to make it reboot faster |
| [14:09:58] | fugg: | yep. |
| [14:11:35] | wagnerrp: | my best guess, when you boot up the kernel in that manner, it expects to start out from the UNDI/PXE environment |
| [14:12:11] | wagnerrp: | when it isn't, it can't bootstrap itself |
| [14:15:40] | fugg: | it must not, kexec -l loads the kernel before reboot and the rest is provided on cmdline. |
| [14:16:07] | wagnerrp: | then what isn't working? |
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| [14:16:22] | rigo_: | hi. sorry for the last one. |
| [14:17:00] | fugg: | client tells me "need a path" maybe there is a bit lost in kernel'S autoconf. |
| [14:17:13] | ** fugg --> work --> laters ** | |
| [14:17:31] | wagnerrp: | hang on |
| [14:17:49] | wagnerrp: | should that whole --append= block be marked off in quotes? |
| [14:18:08] | wagnerrp: | is it possible the only thing you are passing in is the first 'root=/dev/nfs'? |
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| [14:24:06] | rigo_: | what do you suggest? to install the mythbuntu or to build it manually with a netinst mini.iso? |
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| [15:30:24] | n1md4: | Hi. Still fighting with the remote. If ir_keytable doesn't give an output, is it likely to be the remote or the IR receiver at fault? |
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| [16:18:37] | monkeypet69: | n1md4: are you using LIRC with it? |
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| [19:39:25] | fugg: | stuartm, wagnerrp still around ? |
| [19:39:31] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [19:42:04] | fugg: | that problem with sudo and rebooting a kexec-kernel is solved. kexec is used to read grub's config and in the absense of it, it choosed the first found kernel which was not appropirate. so it looked like a frozen myth which just had "something" in the framebuffer where the background already started a kernel and was stuck on remounting nfs-root. |
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| [19:47:15] | wagnerrp: | ive been meaning to integrate something like that |
| [19:47:42] | wagnerrp: | pxe on my systems is not entirely reliable |
| [19:47:57] | wagnerrp: | and sometimes when rebooting them to refresh their images, they never come back up |
| [19:48:12] | wagnerrp: | kexec would let me drop straight into another image and bypass that |
| [19:50:55] | fugg: | yes, works nice so far. when i configured PXE long time ago i had a bunch of (undocumented) issues to solve..........the only remaining issue is that a client somtimes seems to disconnect/reconnect NFS while others run smooth (on the same server) |
| [19:51:07] | wagnerrp: | i dont use nfs |
| [19:51:15] | wagnerrp: | so that one wasnt an issue |
| [19:52:54] | fugg: | the only alternative for me would be lustre but i had to take it down because a broken aircondition :( |
| [19:53:45] | fugg: | do you iscsi then ? |
| [19:53:56] | wagnerrp: | istgt and zfs, aye |
| [19:55:31] | fugg: | i tested ZFS but it's not mine ........eating more resources like the OS itself, contains javish crap and performance *cough* . |
| [19:55:43] | wagnerrp: | javish? |
| [19:55:59] | wagnerrp: | i never had to put java anything on my server |
| [19:56:02] | fugg: | partial java |
| [19:56:12] | wagnerrp: | performance... can be a bit lacking if you dont have the memory for it |
| [19:56:52] | fugg: | i have the RAM but it's not worth to spend 4G to have some speed. |
| [19:56:57] | wagnerrp: | more than makes up for it in flexibility |
| [19:57:11] | wagnerrp: | 4G? nah... |
| [19:57:18] | wagnerrp: | that gets you one hell of a server |
| [19:57:32] | wagnerrp: | you could have a decent ZFS machine for $500 plus the cost of disks |
| [19:58:21] | fugg: | was there. i will not say ZFS is any bad, many like it but i have another opinion. |
| [19:59:25] | fugg: | but still, working with a huge RAM makes it more sensible to faults. |
| [20:00:28] | wagnerrp: | sensitive? |
| [20:00:47] | dekarl: | fugg, hinting at consumer boards not supporting ECC? |
| [20:01:01] | fugg: | peaks on the line, uncontrolled outage, bitflips .... |
| [20:01:24] | wagnerrp: | i think nearly all of AMDs stuff is ECC capable, Intel only does ECC in the server stuff though |
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| [20:01:43] | fugg: | dekarl, all my valueable stuff is running on Opteron Boards, which do by design reg. ECC |
| [20:03:15] | dekarl: | fugg, so how is ZFS more sensitive due to using large amounts of memory? |
| [20:03:53] | wagnerrp: | performance is more sensible when given large amounts of memory? |
| [20:04:25] | fugg: | dekarl, what does ECC if your PSU dies unexpexted and the RAID has nothing in cache because ZFS held it back ? |
| [20:04:31] | dekarl: | or because twice the amount of parts makes a fatal failure of one part twice as likely? |
| [20:04:55] | wagnerrp: | fugg: that's what an L2ARC is for |
| [20:05:10] | dekarl: | PSUs should not die more often due to more memory... unless its the wrong PSU ;) |
| [20:05:22] | wagnerrp: | takes the place of the battery-backed cache in a traditional hardware RAID card |
| [20:06:01] | fugg: | dekarl, sh... gappens and i had it this way ( of course the machines had a high ambient temp.) |
| [20:06:07] | fugg: | *happens |
| [20:06:28] | dekarl: | fugg, sure. I was just arguing that it happens with little amounts of memory, too |
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| [20:07:27] | fugg: | dekarl, sure, i was not about the memory in general but about the design, ZFS is more like a block-datavase instead of a FS ( with continuous flush xycles) |
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| [20:07:49] | wagnerrp: | fugg: again, that's what the L2ARC is for |
| [20:08:00] | fugg: | and my kbd is going to hell, need to replace it soon. |
| [20:08:17] | wagnerrp: | a nice chunk of SSD, to use as a temporary write cache |
| [20:08:41] | wagnerrp: | writes are near instantaneous and non-volatile |
| [20:08:58] | ** fugg won't touch SSD before they grant a billion write-cycles. ** | |
| [20:09:31] | wagnerrp: | its not like rotating hard drives do a billion write cycles either |
| [20:09:43] | [R]: | ONE BILLION |
| [20:09:49] | wagnerrp: | and were talking commercial grade SLC flash, stuff with 100k+ cycle life |
| [20:09:51] | dekarl: | #11095, lets change the videodescip statetype to store amount of pixels and aspect ;) |
| [20:09:51] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11095 ** | |
| [20:10:04] | wagnerrp: | not the consumer grade ~5k cycle life |
| [20:10:12] | fugg: | wagnerrp, i have some enterprise-class Seagate's working over 2 decades. |
| [20:10:56] | wagnerrp: | yes, and have any sectors even seen a million cycles? |
| [20:11:04] | dekarl: | fugg, I had a stack of enterprise grade seagate's failing at a rate of > one per week (1 out of 8)... just another anecdote |
| [20:11:47] | fugg: | dekarl, i know them also but still a difference if you choose SATA or SCSI / SAS |
| [20:11:49] | wagnerrp: | the lifetime problem with flash is that when you fill them up, you see write amplification |
| [20:12:16] | wagnerrp: | since you have to flash a whole chunk, rather than just the data you want to write |
| [20:13:10] | wagnerrp: | but with a modern SSD with a bunch of spare, allocated space, and proper wear leveling, that's really not a big issue |
| [20:13:45] | wagnerrp: | its not like the cell just arbitrarily goes dead |
| [20:13:55] | fugg: | wagnerrp, i guess those old seagate got indeed above a nillion, just because logging and updatedb |
| [20:13:56] | wagnerrp: | it gets to the point where the controller has determined it is no longer safe to write to |
| [20:14:20] | wagnerrp: | so it doesn't, and the cell can still be read until the data is rewritten and moved elsewhere |
| [20:14:32] | fugg: | however, opinions may vary. |
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| [20:15:05] | wagnerrp: | flash itself, when used properly, is perfectly safe |
| [20:15:18] | wagnerrp: | the real question just lies within the integrity of the controller, and programming |
| [20:15:45] | wagnerrp: | OCZs problems early on were not because the flash was crapping out, but because the controllers were |
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| [20:28:34] | kormoc: | any storage media > 10 years old needs to die |
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| [22:07:26] | Burn0ut: | Got an issue with audio getting out of sync with live TV, any ideas on where to look? |
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| [22:07:55] | [R]: | does it work with non livetv? |
| [22:08:48] | Burn0ut: | Yeah, no sync issues with recordings or other videos. |
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| [22:09:44] | Burn0ut: | Its just with LiveTV. Once I start its fine, but as the feed goes on the audio gets farther out of sync |
| [22:10:28] | [R]: | you could probably join the 21st century |
| [22:10:36] | [R]: | and stop using livetv and being a slave to the networks |
| [22:11:26] | Burn0ut: | LOL, yeah I am almost there. Cut my cable about 6 months ago and just get OTA |
| [22:11:34] | Burn0ut: | mainly for sports, and news |
| [22:12:48] | [R]: | haven't you ever heard that song |
| [22:12:58] | [R]: | almost doesn't count |
| [22:13:46] | bas-t: | tgm4883: In the last release of Mythbutu Theme (25.25) something went wrong. In the TV --> Watch Recordings screen (or whatever it is called in english), you should see a summary of the highlighted/selected show at the bottom of your screen. It is no longer there. In 25.24 however, it is where I expect it. |
| [22:13:46] | bas-t: | In 25.25, the summary will show after pressing 'm' followed by 'esc' or 'F1' followed by escape, and maybe more combinations that I did not find. |
| [22:13:46] | bas-t: | Isn't there any kind of bug reporting system where I should go to with this? |
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| [22:15:25] | stuartm: | bas-t: I'd guess the ubuntu bug tracker |
| [22:16:08] | stuartm: | sounds like an area issue, the textarea exceeds the area of it's parent container |
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| [22:17:24] | bas-t: | That would be my guess too, but I don't know how to fix it |
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| [22:31:35] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: how do letterboxed movies factor in? |
| [22:32:29] | wagnerrp: | 1920x800 is a fairly common movie resolution, for 2.4:1 content |
| [22:32:39] | wagnerrp: | of course its padded to 1920x1080 when encoded |
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| [22:33:11] | UForgotten: | anyone have input on using the sony n-200 or roku hd as a frontend ? |
| [22:33:30] | wagnerrp: | as something to play video? or something run mythfrontend? |
| [22:33:46] | UForgotten: | either way. preferrably would like to watch live tv on it |
| [22:33:59] | wagnerrp: | live tv is a no go |
| [22:34:08] | UForgotten: | still broken? |
| [22:34:13] | [R]: | i wasn't aware there was a channel for roku that didnt suck horribly |
| [22:34:29] | wagnerrp: | in order for something to be broken, it has to exist in the first place |
| [22:35:00] | UForgotten: | myth has live tv, its just flakey. which is strange to me because that seems like it would be a #1 feature |
| [22:35:00] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
| [22:35:01] | wagnerrp: | livetv over UPNP has never existed |
| [22:35:14] | UForgotten: | it's definitey number one on the W.A.F (wife acceptance factor) |
| [22:35:37] | [R]: | why would livetv be something number 1 in a RECORDER program |
| [22:35:51] | wagnerrp: | mythtv's livetv mode relies on being able to run mythtv... which neither of those devices can do |
| [22:36:10] | UForgotten: | [R]: because it controls tuners... like a DVR... |
| [22:36:30] | [R]: | ok... and? |
| [22:36:41] | [R]: | myth isn't like a dvr |
| [22:36:43] | [R]: | myth is a dvR |
| [22:36:46] | [R]: | emphasiss on the R |
| [22:37:04] | UForgotten: | [R]: that lacks stable live tv functionality. all other dvrs require it. |
| [22:37:09] | wagnerrp: | there's many who feel that the use of live tv on any DVR, including things like tivo and cable DVRs, is a misuse |
| [22:37:21] | UForgotten: | try explaining that to my wife lol |
| [22:37:30] | TwiztedZero: | try explaing that to me. |
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| [22:37:34] | UForgotten: | I agree there is value in being able to skip commercials. |
| [22:37:36] | [R]: | UForgotten: you're more then welcome to fix it if you find it broken |
| [22:37:50] | kormoc: | UForgotten, it's actually a fairly complicated feature. Dynamically rescheduling recordings as you browse around, switching backends on demand, etc |
| [22:38:11] | UForgotten: | kormoc: I dont see the problem if you dediate a tuner to it. |
| [22:38:28] | UForgotten: | if it's a concurrency problem |
| [22:38:29] | kormoc: | UForgotten, if you dedicate a tuner to it, you might not get all the channels |
| [22:38:38] | wagnerrp: | because then you demand additional hardware that can then not be used for a DVR's primary purpose, recording |
| [22:38:43] | kormoc: | not every tuner gets every channel |
| [22:38:48] | UForgotten: | I'd rather have live tv dedicated on one tuner and lose some channels than not be able to use it at all. |
| [22:38:54] | ertyu_: | if you dedicate a tuner, then just plug it into the wife's TV |
| [22:38:59] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:39:24] | TwiztedZero: | his & hers tv's omg are we still doing that? |
| [22:39:26] | kormoc: | UForgotten, it might be fine for you, but as a generic solution, it's complex |
| [22:39:47] | UForgotten: | kormoc: Believe me, I understand. just wish there was a better way. |
| [22:39:50] | [R]: | i love when poeple sya "oh, its easy, just do X Y Z" |
| [22:40:02] | wagnerrp: | however, this whole discussion is moot |
| [22:40:16] | wagnerrp: | the question was whether livetv could be done on an N200 or Roku |
| [22:40:41] | UForgotten: | right, so the answer is neither. |
| [22:40:45] | wagnerrp: | and since neither of them interface over mythtv's internal protocol, but instead operate as UPNP frontends, neither of them can access livetv |
| [22:40:46] | UForgotten: | so allow me to pose another question |
| [22:41:03] | wagnerrp: | its not "broken", it simply doesn't exist |
| [22:41:07] | UForgotten: | roku was not upnp, it has a myth-speaking channel I thought? |
| [22:41:16] | wagnerrp: | it has some form of channel |
| [22:41:36] | wagnerrp: | but as far as i know, its just using the database, or services api, to poll more metadata than the typical upnp access provides |
| [22:41:56] | UForgotten: | which is probably preferable. |
| [22:42:33] | wagnerrp: | better than straight UPNP? i would agree with that |
| [22:43:01] | UForgotten: | I guess I'm trying to weigh the options on the sony n200 vs the roku hd. sony seems to have more format options but is only upnp without myth integration |
| [22:43:41] | wagnerrp: | in theory, upnp does offer some kind of advanced menuing protocol |
| [22:43:58] | wagnerrp: | in practice, mythtv does not offer it, and i don't even know how common it is for devices to support it |
| [22:47:23] | TwiztedZero: | most devices do use UPnP |
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| [22:47:41] | wagnerrp: | use some of it, sure |
| [22:47:44] | TwiztedZero: | and its not the only way for devices to "talk" to one another. |
| [22:47:51] | TwiztedZero: | but yes the most common. |
| [22:48:12] | UForgotten: | the sony may be able to play the native myth recording format via upnp without transcoding. which would make my life easier |
| [22:48:32] | wagnerrp: | i mean technically, upnp already supports all the capability apple created airplay for |
| [22:48:41] | TwiztedZero: | nods |
| [22:48:43] | [R]: | the "native" recording format is to dump wahtever it gets |
| [22:51:21] | UForgotten: | hmm. food for thought. |
| [22:51:50] | wagnerrp: | i will say my PS3 could handle the native recordings in a TS just fine |
| [22:52:01] | wagnerrp: | but refused to do anything with the losslessly transcoded PS files |
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| [22:52:50] | wagnerrp: | as long as you stayed away from strange encoder options, the PS3 would play near any common codec in a TS file |
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| [22:55:33] | UForgotten: | cool. I think I'll try the sony. since our tv's are both bravias it can do the bravia theatre sync stuff. and if it can upnp my recordings, bonus. |
| [22:55:50] | UForgotten: | roku just seems too limited/cheapy. |
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| [23:24:58] | TwiztedZero: | if by UPnP you mean through your router.... |
| [23:25:37] | ** TwiztedZero actually disabled UPnP on mine, being in a congested wifi neighborhood... ** | |
| [23:26:22] | TwiztedZero: | though most won't have to worry too much about it being xploited in smaller areas. |
| [23:27:39] | TwiztedZero: | re: Gnucitizen: http://goo.gl/NDdNr |
| [23:28:03] | wagnerrp: | no, i dont mean that at all |
| [23:28:27] | wagnerrp: | same name, same autodiscovery, completely different purpose to the autodiscovery |
| [23:28:40] | TwiztedZero: | gotcha :) |
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| [23:29:34] | wagnerrp: | the UPNP you're talking is using autodiscovery to allow applications to manage port forwarding for access to the internet |
| [23:29:53] | TwiztedZero: | right |
| [23:29:58] | wagnerrp: | the UPNP we're talking about is autodiscovery for content listing and access |
| [23:30:31] | wagnerrp: | mythtv advertises itself as a UPNP content server, and other UPNP clients can access and play that content |
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| [23:36:57] | wagnerrp: | theater sync? |
| [23:37:26] | wagnerrp: | oh, that's just CEC |
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| [23:46:47] | UForgotten: | with the magic of amazon prime I'll have it tomorrow so we'll see. gotta get my myth box workign again anyway lol |
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