| Sunday, September 2nd, 2012, 00:05 UTC | ||
| [00:05:03] | LonEagle: | i was thinking about getting the latest HDHR, i figure it has an updated tuner module |
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| [00:24:58] | lautriv: | LonEagle, a light idea where in DB it may be found ? |
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| [00:31:02] | Niffum: | i'm trying to do this echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols |
| [00:31:05] | Niffum: | as root |
| [00:31:19] | Niffum: | and it use to work, but now it gives me bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument |
| [00:31:22] | Niffum: | any one seen this ? |
| [00:32:12] | lautriv: | Niffum, changed your kernel lately ? |
| [00:32:32] | LonEagle: | lautriv: channelscan_dtv_multiplex, i think |
| [00:32:53] | Niffum: | lautriv, I changed it a while ago, which is why i had to add that line |
| [00:32:58] | Niffum: | but for some reason, now it doesn't work |
| [00:33:58] | lautriv: | Niffum, do you get something by ls /sys/class/rc ? |
| [00:34:06] | Niffum: | yeah |
| [00:34:07] | Niffum: | is there |
| [00:34:24] | Niffum: | hoochie:~# ls -al /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols |
| [00:34:24] | Niffum: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2012-09–02 08:31 /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols |
| [00:36:10] | lautriv: | Niffum, typo ? |
| [00:36:24] | Niffum: | am I retarded? |
| [00:36:28] | Niffum: | what am I missing |
| [00:37:12] | Niffum: | you want this direcxtory |
| [00:37:13] | lautriv: | LonEagle, that looks promising, will see if i find the match ;) |
| [00:37:14] | Niffum: | hoochie:~# ls /sys/class/rc |
| [00:37:14] | Niffum: | rc0 rc1 rc2 rc3 |
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| [00:47:06] | Niffum: | lautriv: I did this echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc1/protocols |
| [00:47:08] | Niffum: | and it worked |
| [00:47:16] | Niffum: | whats the difference between rc0 and rc1 ? |
| [00:48:39] | LonEagle: | lautriv: easier to view mythconverg in the mysql gui, in my opinion, but if you know your way around mysql command line, you can get a lot of info |
| [00:48:52] | lautriv: | Niffum, i don't RC but assume they differ by input-channel or type. |
| [00:49:41] | Niffum: | Thanks for the idea |
| [00:49:48] | Niffum: | I can watch tv without having to pickup the keyboard again :) |
| [00:52:09] | lautriv: | LonEagle, i found a bunch, referring to frequency 12460500, some info on the web say's 12460000, others 12461000. so it'S in the middle. however, there is only TID in DB where all lists referring to vpid/apid/ppid o.O |
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| [03:25:52] | darkstarbyte: | Is there a bug with mythlink? |
| [03:26:10] | darkstarbyte: | It keeps naming my shows with Title.somenumber.mpg |
| [03:26:14] | darkstarbyte: | as in |
| [03:26:17] | [R]: | you're probably using it wrong |
| [03:26:22] | darkstarbyte: | Burn Notice.2.mpg |
| [03:26:25] | darkstarbyte: | ok |
| [03:26:31] | darkstarbyte: | I can give you what I used. |
| [03:26:44] | darkstarbyte: | ./mythlink.pl --link ./ --format %T %- %g %i %s |
| [03:27:08] | wagnerrp: | try '--format "%T %- %g %i %s"' |
| [03:27:34] | darkstarbyte: | oh, in quotes |
| [03:29:51] | darkstarbyte: | Gosh darn it. |
| [03:31:25] | darkstarbyte: | It uses descriptions to long with %R |
| [03:32:36] | darkstarbyte: | Any way to shorten it? |
| [03:32:39] | darkstarbyte: | gigady. |
| [03:39:50] | darkstarbyte: | I think this name is way to long |
| [03:39:52] | darkstarbyte: | Stan gets kidnapped in Colombia, and Francine worries that he is gone for good; when he reappears, he reveals that if Francine dies before him, he is going to marry his dentist, making Francine angry; Steve and Roger play a detective duo..mpg: File name too long |
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| [07:08:52] | dekarl: | lautriv, I hope there is also NID (ONID) in the database and the service has SI type DVB. PIDs are not so useful when you have dynamic PMT ;) |
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| [10:54:52] | Guest23388: | dekarl still around ? |
| [10:56:32] | dekarl: | aye |
| [10:57:12] | dekarl: | Guest23388, aye |
| [10:57:37] | Guest23388: | dekarl (this is lautriv, nick temporarly unavailable) i found even my backend lists the channel, zjere is not even a callsign in channelscan_channel and wonder where it got that info from. |
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| [11:01:00] | Guest23388: | action was : |
| [11:01:06] | Guest23388: | SELECT transportid, scanid, mplex_id, source_id, channel_id, callsign, service_name, chan_num, service_id, atsc_major_channel, atsc_minor_channel, use_on_air_guide, hidden, hidden_in_guide, freqid, icon, tvformat, xmltvid, pat_tsid, vct_tsid, vct_chan_tsid, sdt_tsid, orig_netid, netid, si_standard, in_channels_conf, in_pat, in_pmt, in_vct, in_nit, in_sdt, is_encrypted, is_data_service, is_audio_service, is_opencable, could_be_opencable |
| [11:01:06] | Guest23388: | , decryption_status, default_authority |
| [11:01:06] | Guest23388: | FROM `mythconverg`.`channelscan_channel`; |
| [11:01:30] | Guest23388: | bbl |
| [11:03:45] | dekarl: | maybe an issue with reading the SDT when scanning <- contains the service name in DVB transports |
| [11:04:06] | dekarl: | ttyl |
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| [11:12:47] | wizbit: | will mythtv one day use qt5 ? |
| [11:13:01] | wizbit: | http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5Features |
| [11:13:53] | Guest23388: | dekarl, found it, limited output to 1000 colums and the given chan was above that. |
| [11:16:40] | ** dekarl bumps up the channel debugger on the list by one ^^ ** | |
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| [12:34:39] | Spacedementia87: | Hello everyone~! |
| [12:34:59] | Spacedementia87: | I am having a bit of trouble setting up myth tv. I was wondering if anyone could help me? |
| [12:36:09] | jarle: | Spacedementia87: What is your problem? |
| [12:37:20] | Spacedementia87: | I have installed myth-tv backend and I wned through configuring capture cards |
| [12:37:53] | Spacedementia87: | I chose USB MPEG-4 capture card as that best describes my card. And below it said the name of my campture card automatically |
| [12:38:03] | Spacedementia87: | So then I configured the video sources |
| [12:38:13] | Spacedementia87: | But in input connections nothing is listed at all |
| [12:38:42] | AndyCap: | Spacedementia87: and what is the actual card? |
| [12:40:20] | Spacedementia87: | PCTV nanoStick |
| [12:40:41] | Spacedementia87: | I am running kernel version >3.0 |
| [12:44:25] | wagnerrp: | are you actually trying to do analog capture? |
| [12:44:35] | wagnerrp: | you're not trying to use it as a digital tuner? |
| [12:45:00] | Spacedementia87: | We don';t have analoge TV here |
| [12:45:24] | wagnerrp: | then you wouldnt have a card that is encoding anything either |
| [12:45:39] | Spacedementia87: | ? |
| [12:45:46] | wagnerrp: | you want to use the DTV type |
| [12:46:01] | wagnerrp: | digital TV is compressed by the broadcaster |
| [12:46:11] | wagnerrp: | your tuner card does nothing but passes it through |
| [12:46:14] | Spacedementia87: | This is a digital tuner and there are digital tv signals here |
| [12:46:18] | wagnerrp: | it does not encode anything |
| [12:46:38] | wagnerrp: | "USB MPEG-4 capture card" defines an analog tuner with encoder |
| [12:46:46] | Spacedementia87: | Ahh ok |
| [12:46:58] | Spacedementia87: | So I need to select DTV |
| [12:47:33] | Spacedementia87: | I'll take a look in a bit. my media centre is currently running a load of updates. I should have it back in a minute or 2 |
| [12:48:01] | Spacedementia87: | it is saying the device is at /dev/video0. this bit doesn't sound quite right to me |
| [12:48:14] | Spacedementia87: | thought it would be at /dev/dvb/ |
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| [13:05:40] | Spacedementia87: | So Shall I pick MJPEG capture card? |
| [13:07:15] | jarle: | wagnerrp> you want to use the DTV type |
| [13:08:27] | Spacedementia87: | If I do that then the front end ID just says ERROR_OPEN |
| [13:08:40] | Spacedementia87: | and the subtype says DVB-T |
| [13:08:59] | Spacedementia87: | the subtype should be DVB-T2. and I guess the ID should not display an error! |
| [13:14:08] | Spacedementia87: | It does show up in input connections though. But I get an error when I trey to scan for cannels |
| [13:24:44] | Spacedementia87: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obta . . . vice_Drivers I am not following the instructions here to see if that helps |
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| [13:36:27] | Spacedementia87: | ok now the decive isn't even recognised! |
| [13:36:40] | Spacedementia87: | I'm going to reinstall ubuntu and start from scratch |
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| [13:59:12] | EvilGuru: | Ugh, when did 750MB/hour become acceptable for PAL DVB-T? |
| [13:59:42] | AndyCap: | EvilGuru: you'll be slow-boiled. :P |
| [13:59:49] | EvilGuru: | I can remember when even the lowest b/w channels were 1GB/hour |
| [14:02:35] | AndyCap: | it's just a question of time before we're at giftube level. |
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| [15:17:27] | wagnerrp: | Spacedementia871: what version of mythtv are you running? |
| [15:20:51] | Guest23388: | suggestons for a gui tool to make some changes in mythconverg ? |
| [15:21:23] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend, mythtv-setup? |
| [15:21:55] | Spacedementia871: | myth-tv setup |
| [15:22:16] | Spacedementia871: | i am actually ruynning xbmcbuntu and I am trying to set up just the myth tv backend |
| [15:22:46] | wagnerrp: | no, those were suggestions of gui tools for Guest23388 to use to make changes in the database |
| [15:23:28] | Spacedementia871: | ahh ok! sorry |
| [15:23:38] | Spacedementia871: | I am running the latest version. I just installed it today |
| [15:23:59] | Spacedementia871: | I can't check right now as XBMC is doing a library update and I can't exit |
| [15:24:16] | wagnerrp: | meaning 0.25? im just wondering if an updated version would indicate DVB-T vs. DVB-T2 |
| [15:24:19] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, setup is buggy and frondenf missing that options ( i'm about to alter transponder/channel settings ) |
| [15:25:05] | wagnerrp: | is it possible your driver only supports DVB-T mode on that device? |
| [15:25:27] | wagnerrp: | or there is some option that must be passed to the driver module during loading to switch between the two modes? |
| [15:25:53] | wagnerrp: | i think some TBS tuner behaved in that manner |
| [15:26:11] | Spacedementia871: | Well I previously had this working perfectly with HD channels. As far as I am aware it just supports the one mode. DVB-T2, i may be wrong though |
| [15:26:36] | Spacedementia871: | However I have had to reinstall XBMCbuntu for another reason |
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| [15:27:07] | Guest23388: | Spacedementia871, reinstall is winblows behaviour. |
| [15:27:39] | Spacedementia871: | Eitherway the thing that i think is holding me back most at the moment is that it can't load the name of the device. I get a similar error when I try channel scan |
| [15:28:12] | Spacedementia871: | Guest23388: Not when an update renders your remote control useless and no one has a bacup of the old driver to copy over |
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| [15:28:35] | Spacedementia871: | But after reinstall the remote still doesn't work, so I wasted my time anyway |
| [15:28:38] | Guest23388: | Spacedementia871, ERROR_OPEN occours if the device is already in use or firmware missing. afaik XBMC does VDT which has nothing to do with myth. |
| [15:28:48] | Guest23388: | *VDR |
| [15:29:16] | Spacedementia871: | I am not configuring XBMC yet for liveTV, just trying to get myth backend working. THen I use mythbox to connect with the backend |
| [15:29:25] | wagnerrp: | VDR and XBMC are completely different projects |
| [15:30:33] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, i had a read lately on some wiki which states the opposite, was thinking myself to swith because myth gets annoying. |
| [15:31:22] | wagnerrp: | at most, there is an indirect link... XBMC using TVHeadend for its TV capability, TVHeadend in turn optionally using VDR as its recording backend |
| [15:31:42] | Spacedementia871: | They are completely different porjects. XBMC has no LIVEtv support. It just supports various backends. VDR and Myth being 2 of the most popular |
| [15:32:48] | wagnerrp: | the problem is VDR, and really XBMC, were never intended for "clustered" operation |
| [15:32:57] | wagnerrp: | they work fine for a single box |
| [15:33:07] | wagnerrp: | less so for several networked boxes |
| [15:33:24] | Guest23388: | Spacedementia871, whatever if you get ERROR_OPEN sometjing else is using the device or you miss firmware. |
| [15:34:15] | Spacedementia871: | I don't use networked boxes. Just using the one box. |
| [15:34:31] | Spacedementia871: | Ok I will try to see if something else is using the device. How do I check that? |
| [15:36:47] | wagnerrp: | lsof |
| [15:41:38] | Spacedementia871: | hmm this is strange. My card is now not being recognised |
| [15:41:47] | Spacedementia871: | the light on it isn't even turing on when I plug it in |
| [15:41:54] | Guest23388: | bah master-backend crashed because of a mysql-query :( |
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| [15:47:24] | Spacedementia871: | ahh got it working. Updated some drivers |
| [15:47:56] | Guest23388: | Spacedementia871, you said already "latest" so got something from the future ? |
| [15:48:55] | Spacedementia871: | Never said I had latest drivers. Said I had latest mythtv release |
| [15:50:04] | Guest23388: | suggestons for a gui tool to make some changes in mythconverg ? |
| [15:50:20] | Spacedementia871: | YES!! Scanning for channels now |
| [15:50:34] | Spacedementia871: | Thank you for help from everyone |
| [15:50:37] | Guest23388: | Spacedementia871, good lick ;) |
| [15:50:41] | Guest23388: | *luck |
| [15:50:51] | Spacedementia871: | next step is to try and get my remote to work again! |
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| [15:53:53] | wagnerrp: | Guest23388: have you filed any kind of ticket about this issue? |
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| [15:54:50] | johnsu01: | sigh, my whole recording schedule has disappeared |
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| [15:55:29] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, the issue is new and i'm used to get something before crying. however setup->edit channels->edit transponder gives me only a blank page beside cancel/finnish. |
| [15:55:47] | wagnerrp: | with what theme? |
| [15:55:59] | johnsu01: | even though it just recorded shows last night.. |
| [15:56:12] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if that might be a theme issue, meaning the UI tools simply arent there to edit it on that theme |
| [15:56:20] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, default, never cared about theme on the backend. |
| [15:56:40] | wagnerrp: | default blue/brown one? or default ubuntu theme? |
| [15:57:05] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, i'll look into ... |
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| [15:57:31] | johnsu01: | hm actually, the recording rules are still there, it's the scheduling data that's not |
| [15:57:59] | wagnerrp: | Guest23388: http://snag.gy/MVB3H.jpg |
| [15:58:55] | ajaxmike: | Upgraded to 12.04 a while back. Worked OK for a while, but now I can't change channels (crashes the front end). Reinstalled mythbuntu on FE, didn't help. |
| [15:59:03] | johnsu01: | I had this problem before too since reinstalling the system, mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to be getting run |
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| [15:59:37] | wagnerrp: | Guest23388: try running "mythtv-setup -O Theme=MythCenter" |
| [15:59:45] | johnsu01: | well, it's run — the mythfill log looks fine.. |
| [16:00:17] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, bah, looks more brown/green but there is not even a theme option for backend, version id 0.25.2dmo2 (debian) |
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| [16:00:33] | wagnerrp: | the theme option is in the frontend |
| [16:00:51] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup takes its UI settings from whatever you configured in mythfrontend for that profile |
| [16:00:52] | johnsu01: | after running mythfildatabase manually, lots of upcoming recordings appear |
| [16:01:26] | wagnerrp: | profile being the system hostname, unless specified otherwise in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
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| [16:04:19] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, backend is another box, your Theme= gave me a blue one but still blank. |
| [16:05:29] | wagnerrp: | how did you get these channels in the first place? |
| [16:06:01] | Guest23388: | regular scan on DVB-S (astra 19.2 E) |
| [16:06:19] | wagnerrp: | meaning a scan within mythtv? not an import of an external channels.conf? |
| [16:06:58] | Guest23388: | nah, i told the backend to scan all beginning with head on 125515000/v/220000 |
| [16:07:48] | wagnerrp: | i honestly dont know a whole lot about DVB |
| [16:07:56] | Guest23388: | got a few thousand channels, selected the interresting. all but this one are fine. |
| [16:08:08] | wagnerrp: | i know the procedures are a bit different than they are over here with ATSC/QAM... but i've no experience with it |
| [16:08:41] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, regardless of DVB/ATSC the mask should give me something to edit. |
| [16:08:56] | wagnerrp: | and it does on mine |
| [16:12:14] | Guest23388: | ah, observed another thing, if i'm at that svreen i can't even fg another windows, looks like frozen while waiting for data. |
| [16:14:00] | wagnerrp: | because it's running full screen? |
| [16:14:13] | wagnerrp: | try "--windowed --geometry 800x480" |
| [16:14:45] | Guest23388: | UI is full-screen on the left one but if i go back to the previous screen i can fg another window like a terminal. |
| [16:16:11] | Guest23388: | i see there are some messages about missing fonts where alternate fonts gets used. why on earth must myth use such rotten winblows fonts ? |
| [16:16:45] | wagnerrp: | fonts are chosen by the theme, and we dont control the stock ubuntu theme |
| [16:17:06] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, and i don't use ubuntu. |
| [16:17:20] | wagnerrp: | you said you were on xbmcbuntu |
| [16:17:32] | wagnerrp: | or was that the other guy |
| [16:17:37] | Guest23388: | that was the fuy with the dvb-stick |
| [16:17:44] | Guest23388: | *guy |
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| [16:18:22] | wagnerrp: | in any case, i know next to nothing about themes |
| [16:18:56] | Guest23388: | ok, will do some steps with my dogs and maybe i will install some M$ fonts without the need to vomit or infect my machines. |
| [16:19:25] | wagnerrp: | as far as i know, all the necessary fonts should have either been included, or picked up by the package manager |
| [16:19:36] | wagnerrp: | with the two built-in themes |
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| [16:21:51] | ajaxmike: | Upgraded to 12.04 a while back. Worked OK for a while, but now I can't change channels (crashes the front end). Reinstalled mythbuntu on FE, didn't help. |
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| [16:38:45] | Spacedementia87: | Hello! Back again. I seem to have everything working. Channels on and everything |
| [16:38:58] | Spacedementia87: | I even watched tv for a short while. Stopped it to change some settings |
| [16:39:20] | Spacedementia87: | now in my front end I just get told all tuners are busy if i try to watch anything |
| [16:39:59] | wagnerrp: | you were watching in mythfrontend? |
| [16:40:51] | Spacedementia87: | No I am watching in XBMC using mythbox |
| [16:41:44] | wagnerrp: | there have been issues in the past where mythbox did not clean up after itself properly when terminating a livetv session |
| [16:41:57] | wagnerrp: | leaving the tuner hung recording until the backend was restarted |
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| [16:43:01] | Spacedementia87: | ahh. You know anyway of fixing this? I have had it working before so I know it is possible. |
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| [16:43:14] | wagnerrp: | restart the backend |
| [16:43:30] | Spacedementia87: | Will i have to do that every time? |
| [16:43:37] | wagnerrp: | i _thought_ the backend had been corrected to terminate the session as soon as the connection dropped |
| [16:43:58] | wagnerrp: | but we dont maintain mythbox to control that side of the problem |
| [16:43:58] | Spacedementia87: | i am seatching the mythbox threads now |
| [16:44:08] | Spacedementia87: | no i understand |
| [16:44:33] | ernpend: | Mythtv newbie here with a mythweb configuration question. Anyone know mythweb well? |
| [16:44:49] | wagnerrp: | just ask the question, dont ask to ask |
| [16:47:58] | Spacedementia87: | hmm, i rebooted the pc and still all the tuners are busy! |
| [16:48:30] | Spacedementia87: | I found a post I made on the forums with the same issue. Only I solved it myself without any help. Only I can't remember how! |
| [16:49:13] | wagnerrp: | is this a mythbox error saying the tuners are all busy? or something from mythbackend/mythfrontend? |
| [16:49:21] | ertyu-m: | that's why you usually answer how you solved it |
| [16:49:46] | Spacedementia87: | the popup comes in mythbox. I am going to install mythtv frontent to see if I get the same issue |
| [16:50:27] | wagnerrp: | it should already be installed, mythfrontend and mythbackend are compiled simultaneously |
| [16:50:45] | Spacedementia87: | I only chose to install mythbackend from apt-get |
| [16:51:08] | wagnerrp: | that saves all of like... 3MB |
| [16:51:20] | Spacedementia87: | I wasn't think about saving space! |
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| [16:54:57] | Spacedementia87: | If I try to watch live tv in mythfrontend I get: MythTV is using all inputs but there are no rcordings?" |
| [16:55:15] | wagnerrp: | that usually indicates some kind of permissions issue |
| [16:55:18] | wagnerrp: | check backend logs |
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| [16:55:46] | wagnerrp: | the backend has decided that for whatever reason, it cannot record |
| [16:56:54] | Spacedementia87: | i've forgotten how to check the logs. |
| [16:57:03] | Spacedementia87: | are they in home/mythtv? |
| [16:57:16] | wagnerrp: | they're where ever you told mythbackend to store them when you ran it |
| [16:57:25] | Spacedementia87: | it never asked me |
| [16:57:39] | wagnerrp: | you specify on the command line |
| [16:57:51] | wagnerrp: | if nothing is specified, it only outputs to the terminal |
| [16:58:06] | Spacedementia87: | It never asked me to specify when I installed. |
| [16:58:12] | Spacedementia87: | Can I change that now? |
| [16:58:30] | wagnerrp: | you're not understanding, mythtv has no way to configure where it logs to |
| [16:58:45] | Spacedementia87: | oh |
| [16:58:46] | wagnerrp: | you can ONLY configure that when you run it, by specifying a location on the command line with the proper arguments |
| [16:58:54] | Spacedementia87: | ahh ok |
| [16:58:58] | wagnerrp: | so, either you, or your init scripts, must specify a location |
| [16:59:07] | Spacedementia87: | sorry, i understand now |
| [16:59:25] | wagnerrp: | you may be able to see what it was run with using 'ps' |
| [16:59:47] | wagnerrp: | there might be a --logpath or --syslog argument |
| [17:01:14] | Spacedementia87: | yeah I am checking now |
| [17:01:23] | Spacedementia87: | oterwise I will add it and run again |
| [17:03:44] | Spacedementia87: | hmm --logpath gives me invalid argument |
| [17:04:02] | wagnerrp: | then you are running 0.24 |
| [17:04:10] | wagnerrp: | --logpath was added in 0.25 |
| [17:04:15] | Spacedementia87: | how odd. Should probably upgrade |
| [17:05:34] | Spacedementia87: | seems synaptic package manager only shows 0.24 |
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| [17:06:54] | Spacedementia87: | must need to update apt or something |
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| [17:12:48] | _stefanb: | mythtvsetup is driving me nuts again with it's refusal to find a new un-encrypted DVB-C channel |
| [17:13:10] | Spacedementia87: | Right I have a log file |
| [17:13:14] | Spacedementia87: | Doesn't tell me much though |
| [17:13:18] | _stefanb: | How does mythtvsetup decide "I have seen this channel already?" |
| [17:13:26] | wagnerrp: | dump it in a pastebin, and post the link in here |
| [17:14:10] | _stefanb: | The new channel is on old location with a new name, so I guess mythtv considers the PMT/SID/ whatever as "not a new channel" |
| [17:14:19] | Spacedementia87: | http://pastebin.com/PsPddQiL |
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| [17:14:46] | wagnerrp: | thats the frontend log, i need to see the backend log |
| [17:15:02] | wagnerrp: | the frontend doesnt touch the tuners |
| [17:15:33] | Spacedementia87: | ahh sorry |
| [17:15:40] | Spacedementia87: | i'll get there in the end! lol |
| [17:16:53] | Spacedementia87: | Sorry I am being so dense |
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| [17:20:39] | _stefanb: | never mind, I used mysql to update table channel by hand (once again) |
| [17:21:29] | Spacedementia87: | pastebin.com/J8fP9km7 |
| [17:21:47] | Spacedementia87: | http://pastebin.com/J8fP9km7 |
| [17:22:12] | wagnerrp: | device busy... something else is using it, or the driver is horked |
| [17:22:34] | Spacedementia87: | Well it did work for a while. How might I find out what is using it? |
| [17:22:47] | wagnerrp: | lsof |
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| [17:23:22] | Spacedementia87: | wow, wall of text! |
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| [17:23:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats every open file or pipe on your system |
| [17:23:50] | Spacedementia87: | can i refine it to only see what I want? |
| [17:23:55] | wagnerrp: | grep |
| [17:24:59] | Spacedementia87: | guess i have to output lsof to a file first for that to work? |
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| [17:25:15] | wagnerrp: | lsof | grep "your filter string" |
| [17:25:27] | wagnerrp: | pipe is your friend, love the pipe |
| [17:25:30] | Spacedementia87: | ahh ok |
| [17:25:51] | Spacedementia87: | so shall I put dvb into the filter string? or am i being simple? |
| [17:26:06] | wagnerrp: | that, or /dev/dvb/adapter<n> |
| [17:26:22] | wagnerrp: | however general or specific you want it to operate is fine |
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| [17:26:42] | Spacedementia87: | hmm get no results for /dev/dvb |
| [17:26:53] | wagnerrp: | you can even pipe multiple clauses together... lsof | grep "filter 1" | grep "filter 2" | grep "filter ...." |
| [17:27:18] | wagnerrp: | is it possible you closed mythbackend, and started it back up immediately, such that the system had not yet had a chance to remove all references? |
| [17:28:02] | Spacedementia87: | I closed it, left it for a few minutes then reopened |
| [17:28:27] | wagnerrp: | started it up manually with a user account that did not have permission to access those nodes? |
| [17:30:48] | Spacedementia87: | nah I just reran myth-setup so it started up when I closed it |
| [17:30:51] | Spacedementia87: | I try rebooting |
| [17:31:07] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend does not automatically start when you close mythtv-setup |
| [17:31:39] | Spacedementia87: | It asked me if I wanted to start it and I clicked yes |
| [17:31:59] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup does not do that... if you saw that, it was a wrapper script that calls mythtv-setup |
| [17:32:44] | Spacedementia87: | Whatever it is it came with the default mythtv installation from the package manager |
| [17:33:03] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu adds those wrappers in |
| [17:33:19] | wagnerrp: | so it causes some confusion between people running mythbuntu, and people running stock mythtv |
| [17:33:27] | Spacedementia87: | i don't have mythbuntu |
| [17:34:05] | wagnerrp: | you have xbmcbuntu? |
| [17:34:10] | Spacedementia87: | yeah |
| [17:34:28] | wagnerrp: | then you use the mythbuntu packages for mythtv |
| [17:35:00] | Spacedementia87: | oh ok. I am just logged into the desktop and I click on mythtv backend setup in the programs menu |
| [17:35:56] | Spacedementia87: | now myth-setup won't open the card either |
| [17:36:54] | Spacedementia87: | and lsof still returns nothing if i put in /dev/dvb/ |
| [17:36:59] | Spacedementia87: | how curious |
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| [17:41:48] | Spacedementia87: | If i just put in dvd it returns 4 things. None look relevant though |
| [17:44:04] | Spacedementia87: | if i use fuser on /dev/dvb/ I get loads of pids |
| [17:44:57] | ajaxmike: | Could one of the more seasoned members help me? I have been here several times requesting hep and I don't seem to get answer, while others do. Is my profile invisible or something? Am I asking incorrectly? Not trying to be a smart ass, just want to know if I should not bother coming back |
| [17:45:49] | Spacedementia87: | just ask the question |
| [17:45:52] | wagnerrp: | more likely there is no one currently active in here who has any significant experience with live tv to help you |
| [17:45:56] | caelor: | ajaxmike, it's possible that nobody at the time knew an answer |
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| [17:46:20] | ajaxmike: | OK thanks. Obviously my profile is working |
| [17:46:34] | wagnerrp: | caelor: im not seeing the issue you reported this morning |
| [17:47:13] | cxo: | So apparently you can't disable this livetv recording crap that's killing my hard drive and god forbid destroy SSDs, so I was wondering if I could mount a 100mb ramfs in its place. Would that "disable" it? |
| [17:47:29] | wagnerrp: | do what now? |
| [17:47:42] | caelor: | with the conflicting recordings? |
| [17:47:46] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [17:47:53] | wagnerrp: | what "livetv recording crap"? |
| [17:48:29] | caelor: | do the python bindings have a version string within them (that might be the quickest way to verify apt hasn't left some junk lying around that's causing it) |
| [17:48:58] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but the code in question hasnt changed in probably two years |
| [17:49:40] | caelor: | that's what I thought. The backtrace also didn't help me trace through the code |
| [17:49:47] | cxo: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/there-any-way-disab . . . ording-6086/ |
| [17:50:14] | wagnerrp: | you mean... "is there any way to make mythtv not a DVR?" |
| [17:50:26] | wagnerrp: | thats what DVRs do, they record... everything... |
| [17:51:00] | wagnerrp: | if that is "killing your hard drive", you're doing something very wrong |
| [17:51:25] | ajaxmike: | I am getting "irrecoverable recorder error" when I change channels on dedicated FE. Where do I start to debug this? Google searching has not provided an answer. |
| [17:51:54] | cxo: | I'm going to mount a 100mb ramfs in that place and see what happens |
| [17:52:08] | caelor: | is this on a combined fe/be machine, or with the recorder on a different machine to the backend? |
| [17:52:20] | caelor: | different machine to the _frontend_ |
| [17:52:39] | wagnerrp: | cxo: you are going to run out of storage in roughly a minute, and livetv will collapse |
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| [17:53:35] | cxo: | What does collapse mean? crash? |
| [17:53:48] | Spacedementia87: | wagnerrp: any ideas where i go next? |
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| [17:54:07] | ajaxmike: | caelor: sperate FE and BE |
| [17:54:41] | wagnerrp: | cxo: meaning the recording will terminate, because your filesystem filled up |
| [17:55:15] | caelor: | a good place to start would be to pastebin both the frontend and backend logs covering the time from starting watching livetv, to the irrecoverable recorder error |
| [17:55:43] | cxo: | awesome! |
| [17:55:50] | caelor: | and also the output of mythfrontend --version and mythbackend --version |
| [17:56:51] | wagnerrp: | cxo: why do you say livetv recording is destroying your hard drive? |
| [17:57:02] | wagnerrp: | what specifically is happening to make you claim such? |
| [17:57:08] | caelor: | wagnerrp, interesting, I'm now also not getting that backtrace |
| [17:57:38] | wagnerrp: | and similarly, why do you think it would destroy an SSD? |
| [17:57:44] | caelor: | so please disregard my earlier report |
| [17:58:54] | Spacedementia87: | wagnerrp: he is probably referring to that fact that hard drives have a limited lifespan that is shortened by mutiple reads and writes |
| [17:59:15] | wagnerrp: | yes, but SSDs have wear-leveling software built into the controller |
| [17:59:18] | caelor: | ajaxmike, I had an issue recently where trying to watch in-progress recordings that were recording from my slave-be would report irrecoverable recorder error, and "unable to connect to master server". |
| [17:59:25] | wagnerrp: | that spreads those writes out over the entire drive |
| [17:59:29] | Spacedementia87: | but it is silly to take that into account, i mean the drive will last forever if you never use it |
| [17:59:39] | caelor: | It turned out to be a misconfiguration of the backend IP address setting on the slave backend |
| [18:00:23] | wagnerrp: | when a 100GB SSD is rated for 5000 write cycles, you're good for a couple hundred terabytes worth of writes |
| [18:00:47] | Spacedementia87: | Oh I know that. I am not worrying about my hard drives |
| [18:01:00] | Spacedementia87: | I just wish I could afford an SSD |
| [18:01:16] | Spacedementia87: | I don't seem to be getting anywhere with this capture card |
| [18:01:38] | tgm4883: | Using an SSD for recorded content sounds like a waste |
| [18:01:58] | caelor: | agreed, an SSD would be nice, but personally I'd be looking at putting the DB on the SSD ahead of using it for recording storage |
| [18:02:08] | tgm4883: | exactly |
| [18:02:27] | tgm4883: | and the $/GB on platters is way better than SSD's |
| [18:02:42] | tgm4883: | translating to much more recordings, for almost no loss |
| [18:02:48] | wagnerrp: | the only utility of an SSD for recording would be to allow you to record a bunch of things simultaneously, and then sequentially dump them to a RAID array |
| [18:02:51] | caelor: | it's a wasteful attitude, but once the SSD wears out, chances are an equivalent replacement will be an order of magnitude cheaper |
| [18:03:02] | tgm4883: | caelor, true |
| [18:03:23] | caelor: | so even if it only lasts a year or two, it might be worth considering as a consumable |
| [18:03:27] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, yea, but even then, that is a lot of simultaneous recordings right? |
| [18:03:41] | caelor: | of course, assuming that adequate DB backups are made for the inevitable failure |
| [18:03:51] | Spacedementia87: | This time I am setting up the capture card so that it is always open in mythbackend |
| [18:03:57] | wagnerrp: | well figure one rotating disk using ext4 with barriers might peak out with ~5 recordings |
| [18:03:58] | ajaxmike: | caelor: I think I know where to find the log files, but I am on a Windows machine and the logs are on the other two machines. I can get into the BE, but not the FE. I am not recording anything when watching live TV |
| [18:04:08] | Spacedementia87: | I want an SSD for my main boot drives of laptop and desktop |
| [18:04:32] | Spacedementia87: | I have seen my freind boot windows and load up lotro on his SSD machine. I blinked and nearly missed it all |
| [18:04:43] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, even then, wouldn't multiple drives in a SG be better? |
| [18:04:44] | wagnerrp: | lotro? |
| [18:05:02] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: if you've got a bunch of spare drives available, sure |
| [18:05:08] | caelor: | ajaxmike, livetv can be considered a special case of recording – the delivery mechanism from backend to frontend is very similar (in that it goes through a file saved onto disk, then transferred from backend to frontend) |
| [18:05:12] | wagnerrp: | if you're buying new, an SSD would be cheaper |
| [18:05:35] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ~5 simultaneous recordings per drive you say? |
| [18:05:43] | wagnerrp: | random estimate |
| [18:05:56] | tgm4883: | meaning, if you are doing more than ~10 simultaneous recordings, I don't think you are too worried about cost |
| [18:06:00] | ajaxmike: | ah-ha so FE thinks everything is recorded |
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| [18:06:08] | tgm4883: | and even then, you still have to worry about space |
| [18:06:21] | tgm4883: | so it still seems to me that platters are better than SSD for this setup |
| [18:06:23] | Spacedementia87: | wagnerry lord of the rings online. A MMORPG. Huge maps and huge loading times when you first log on as a consequence |
| [18:06:25] | Spacedementia87: | v |
| [18:06:27] | tgm4883: | unless you are putting it in a car or somthing |
| [18:07:01] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: i was presuming storing everything on a RAID array |
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| [18:07:11] | wagnerrp: | which meant he SSD would basically operate as a temporary cache |
| [18:07:11] | caelor: | ajaxmike, more or less. I'm not familiar with the internals of livetv, but I know that it still goes through a ringbuffer, and so might share some common elements with recordings |
| [18:07:23] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ah yea, I suppose |
| [18:07:34] | wagnerrp: | at least on ZFS, the SSD would be specifically registered as a cache |
| [18:08:02] | wagnerrp: | and the filesystem would automatically store to it, before more efficiently shuffling it over to the array |
| [18:08:10] | wagnerrp: | not unlike a battery backed cache on a RAID card |
| [18:08:28] | caelor: | ajaxmike, is it a master backend tuner that you have the problem with, slave backend, or all? |
| [18:09:04] | caelor: | if you're on a windows machine, winscp might be helpful for extracting logs |
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| [18:09:36] | wagnerrp: | or pscp, or just use pastebinit to dump the logs somewhere directly |
| [18:10:13] | caelor: | useful :) I'd never heard of pastebinit before |
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| [18:21:40] | caelor: | wagnerrp, do you know if stichnot frequents this channel, or only #mythtv? |
| [18:22:09] | wagnerrp: | !seen stichnot |
| [18:22:09] | MythLogBot: | stichnot was last seen 183 days 21 hours 10 minutes 29 seconds ago |
| [18:22:16] | ajaxmike: | caelor, the BE is BE only. Tuner is HDHR on network. I can access HDHR with their QuickTV windos app., so I know the tuners are OK. Their is no FE setup on BE. |
| [18:22:57] | caelor: | ok, do you know if it's all channels, or just a subset? |
| [18:23:39] | caelor: | thanks wagnerrp, I can never remember the logbot commands |
| [18:27:26] | cxo: | It crashes when it fills up with a ringbuffer error. annoying. I think I need an alternative to mythtv. Something I can use with a read only rootfs |
| [18:27:51] | ajaxmike: | I start on channel 9–1 and if I try to change to anything else it crashes |
| [18:27:51] | caelor: | cxo, what are you actually trying to achieve with the system? |
| [18:28:23] | wagnerrp: | do you simply not want to record anything? no DVR capabilities, no scheduled recordings? |
| [18:28:33] | wagnerrp: | if thats the case, just use kaffeine or something |
| [18:29:16] | caelor: | ajaxmike, ok. I think it will need to be frontend and backend logs to look into it further. Like wagnerp suggested, pastebinit might be the easiest way |
| [18:29:30] | wagnerrp: | mythtv needs the database, which needs write access... and it needs somewhere to record to, which should be an independent drive from the database |
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| [18:38:26] | ajaxmike: | recording drive is 1TB dedicated to mythtv. I think mythtv app is installed on system drive, but not sure. A forum post said to delete video source and reinstall, so I am reinstalling atm |
| [18:38:46] | wagnerrp: | i meant that to cxo |
| [18:39:32] | lis0r: | cxo: tvheadend+xbmc? |
| [18:39:50] | wagnerrp: | i expect tvheadend records everything similarly |
| [18:40:05] | caelor: | ajaxmike, recreating video source/tuner might help, but if not then the logs really would be the next step |
| [18:40:21] | ajaxmike: | will do |
| [18:43:35] | lis0r: | wagnerrp: I'm trying the combo at the moment, a lsof on the backend doesn't seem to show such |
| [18:44:32] | Guest23388: | why on earth do all the people think "reinstall" is a solution ? |
| [18:45:40] | cxo: | lis0r, Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out. |
| [18:45:43] | caelor: | in theory, if you re-tread the same path, you should avoid the mistakes you've made previously. If those mistakes had left some obscure misconfiguration, then reinstall may resolve |
| [18:46:20] | lis0r: | cxo: I warn you, livetv on xbmc is lacking the polish of mythtv |
| [18:46:30] | caelor: | additionally, it should provide a known state for further debugging |
| [18:48:40] | wagnerrp: | caelor: in practice, most people do no configuration beyond what their distro has already done for them |
| [18:48:49] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, arent those missing fonts within some msttf-core bundles ? |
| [18:49:08] | wagnerrp: | and reinstalling leaves the database, and all contained settings, intact |
| [18:49:19] | wagnerrp: | Guest23388: no idea |
| [18:49:44] | caelor: | wagnerrp, fair point. |
| [18:50:22] | wagnerrp: | a quick check...i have no microsoft fonts installed on my machines |
| [18:58:02] | ajaxmike: | I am noticing something interesting. When I scan for channels I get 90–100% signal strength but no lock. Perhaps that's why it was crashing before |
| [18:58:31] | wagnerrp: | perhaps those are analog channels? |
| [18:58:52] | caelor: | ajaxmike, this is with a HDHR? |
| [18:58:56] | ajaxmike: | yes |
| [18:59:29] | caelor: | unfortunately, I'm not familiar with how the scanning for that works (I'm in the UK, with DVB PCI cards) |
| [19:01:00] | ajaxmike: | HDHR windows app get all of the channels, but mythtv doesn't find them |
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| [19:03:41] | caelor: | is the HDHR not one of the tuners that rather than scanning, gets its tuning info through SchedulesDirect? |
| [19:03:54] | wagnerrp: | the Prime? yes... standard? no |
| [19:04:20] | wagnerrp: | actually, the prime gets its tuning information from the cable headend, mythtv just gets a channel lineup from schedules direct |
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| [19:04:36] | wagnerrp: | the regular one, users must scan |
| [19:05:02] | Guest23388: | can anyone tell me where to get missing fonts for MythCenter theme ? |
| [19:05:10] | caelor: | ah. :) makes me wish we had CableCard in the UK... |
| [19:05:19] | wagnerrp: | you do... CI |
| [19:06:26] | caelor: | technically, possibly, but VirginMedia (the monopoly cable company in most of the UK) forbids user hardware on its network, through its T&Cs |
| [19:06:53] | caelor: | meaning there's no legit market for user hardware |
| [19:07:03] | ajaxmike: | I use schedules direct. There is an option to use SD lineup instead of scanning, but it isn't chowing anything |
| [19:07:45] | caelor: | from the sound of it, if you have the normal (non-prime) HDHR, then you need to scan |
| [19:09:23] | caelor: | I'm not hugely familiar with what the HDHR is compatible with – are you using it for Cable, or OTA broadcasts? |
| [19:10:30] | ajaxmike: | I am OTA. I switched to myth to get rid of the hated cable co |
| [19:10:45] | ajaxmike: | was working fantastically for a while |
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| [19:12:04] | smoothifier: | i started to scan my video library and then exited back a menu. mythfrontend crashed. i've seen this happen before. is this something I should file a bug report for? |
| [19:12:23] | smoothifier: | that is, it was reading the metadata |
| [19:12:39] | smoothifier: | the progress bar had completed |
| [19:12:59] | caelor: | ajaxmike, I'm kind of out of my depth, but looking at the silicondust website, I'd suggest trying the GTK hdhomerun_config_gui, and see if you can get the tuner to behave/lock on from the same machine as the backend |
| [19:13:05] | wagnerrp: | you could, it may or may not get fixed |
| [19:13:20] | smoothifier: | it's not a big bug in my opinion, really |
| [19:13:23] | ajaxmike: | I am doing that right now in windows |
| [19:13:32] | wagnerrp: | i intend to replace all that code, and have no real desire to fix anything in the old code |
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| [19:14:23] | smoothifier: | that involves the pointer structure you spoke to me about around a month ago? handling the file structure and metadata? |
| [19:14:35] | wagnerrp: | not directly |
| [19:14:54] | MissDee: | hi all |
| [19:15:19] | MissDee: | I'm trying to install mythtv backend from atrpms on a centos 6.3 system |
| [19:15:25] | smoothifier: | hi missdee |
| [19:15:26] | wagnerrp: | but theyre both things from that library that run on the frontend |
| [19:15:35] | wagnerrp: | i intend to move that whole chunk of code into the backend |
| [19:15:37] | MissDee: | yum is saysing i need libraw1394.so.8 but I have .11 |
| [19:15:43] | MissDee: | is it forward compatable? |
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| [19:15:58] | wagnerrp: | try to find RPMs built against CentOS 6.3 |
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| [19:16:15] | smoothifier: | i haven't had much luck with atrpms in general due to dependency issues like the one you have |
| [19:16:20] | wagnerrp: | or install from source |
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| [19:16:38] | smoothifier: | i'm not sure but i think that rpmfusion was working on a set of rpms |
| [19:16:39] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has no direct dependency on .8 vs. .11 |
| [19:16:41] | MissDee: | I was leaning towards a source install |
| [19:16:44] | MissDee: | ok |
| [19:16:48] | wagnerrp: | but your specific binary was linked against the older version of the library |
| [19:16:50] | MissDee: | thank you |
| [19:16:55] | wagnerrp: | so it should use the older version of the library |
| [19:17:44] | caelor: | ajaxmike, so you can get the tuner to scan/tune from Windows, but the backend doesn't find any channels on scan? |
| [19:18:02] | MissDee: | I'll try a source install |
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| [19:19:19] | MissDee: | do the backend and frontend have to be the same version? |
| [19:19:22] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, what version are you on ? |
| [19:20:01] | Guest23388: | MissDee, mostly because protocol-changes |
| [19:20:27] | wagnerrp: | 0.26rc |
| [19:20:33] | wagnerrp: | protocol and schema changes |
| [19:20:49] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not backwards compatible with older versions of itself |
| [19:21:10] | MissDee: | ok |
| [19:21:31] | MissDee: | well, my clinet is most likely going to be windows (or the web client) |
| [19:23:22] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, so obv. someone fixed the menu because i get nothing, added missing fonts, startet different themes......just cancel/finish (there is also "back" which can't be selected ) |
| [19:24:02] | wagnerrp: | i doubt anyone has done much work on mythtv-setup recently |
| [19:24:07] | wagnerrp: | as it is due for replacement |
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| [19:26:40] | Waverly36: | So, is this the wrong place to start a discussion about "copy-once" channels and mythtv? I know they're not supposed to work, but hoped to get a bit more information on the hurdles involved making that happen. |
| [19:26:41] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, did you really ever select that option ? |
| [19:27:02] | wagnerrp: | what option? |
| [19:27:23] | Guest23388: | wagnerrp, editing transponders in backend-setup. |
| [19:28:12] | wagnerrp: | Waverly36: the "hurdle" would be taking mythtv closed source, implementing encryption measures to protect the content while on disk, and then spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, and several years, getting MythTV authorized and licensed to interface with cablecard hardware |
| [19:28:30] | wagnerrp: | i opened one of the responders, and it allowed me to select one and edit one |
| [19:28:39] | wagnerrp: | i did not actually save the changes |
| [19:28:47] | wagnerrp: | but i presume it would have worked had i |
| [19:33:14] | caelor: | ajaxmike, if you're not able to get the backend to successfully scan, then I'm not sure I'll be much more help. I'd hazard a guess at the hdhr libraries on your backend, but please keep persevering – somebody should be able to help you. |
| [19:38:11] | Guest23388: | anyone using 0.25.2 and is able to edit transponders on the backend ? |
| [19:38:15] | wagnerrp: | the HDHR libraries are built into mythtv, it does not pull system libraries |
| [19:41:00] | Waverly36: | +wagnerrp: I see. Sounds unlikely to ever happen. I'm trying to find the *right* (read: non-piracy way) of sharing a DVR with the rest of my house using a cheap/free software based DVR and that is my final big road block. |
| [19:41:50] | wagnerrp: | that's the only non-illegal way that would happen |
| [19:42:14] | wagnerrp: | with the cablecard scheme only being of use within the US, and bypassing such a scheme illegal in the US under the DMCA |
| [19:42:48] | wagnerrp: | the only real option we have for "copy-freely" content is analog capture |
| [19:42:59] | wagnerrp: | which if you want HD, means an HDPVR |
| [19:44:10] | wagnerrp: | Waverly36: the CableCard scheme was really not designed with interoperability in mind |
| [19:44:37] | wagnerrp: | it was designed to be difficult to use, such that the only people who would use it were manufacturers building first-party hardware for cable companies |
| [19:45:42] | wagnerrp: | it was intended by the FCC to encourage interoperability, but designed by the industry to maintain lock-in |
| [19:48:54] | Waverly36: | Such a shame...my HD HomeRun Prime works so well with mythtv other than that one issue. I guess I could setup an HDPVR directly attached to my receiver for those channels only, but then I lose my one receiver to mythtv. I don't think the wife would care much for that ;). |
| [19:49:28] | wagnerrp: | with comcast, those should only be the premium channels |
| [19:49:45] | Waverly36: | It's true. HBO and Showtime are the two I have access to. |
| [19:50:17] | Waverly36: | It works great with WMC, but sharing with the rest of the house is impossible without an Xbox360 for each room... |
| [19:50:29] | Waverly36: | for that money, I could just purchase a DVR system |
| [19:50:33] | wagnerrp: | any chance you could use timeslot rules on the shows in question, and force them to record early in the morning when no one is up to use the STB? |
| [19:50:51] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if HBO/Showtime regularly show repeats |
| [19:50:52] | Waverly36: | well, the receiver is in a bad spot for that at the moment. |
| [19:51:39] | wagnerrp: | yeah, while WMC can do "copy once" content, its locked to only that specific PC, or paired 360s |
| [19:51:50] | wagnerrp: | you cant use another PC to access them |
| [19:51:53] | Waverly36: | right |
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| [19:54:29] | Waverly36: | You do bring up a good point though. HBO and Showtime do regularly repeat for the most part. |
| [19:55:15] | wagnerrp: | i know the non-premium channels i have repeat frequently |
| [19:55:28] | wagnerrp: | USA might show an episode four times before the end of the week |
| [19:55:37] | wagnerrp: | and another several times later in the year |
| [19:57:24] | Waverly36: | HDPVR is $200+ though...I can buy a used xbox360 for $100 |
| [19:57:34] | Waverly36: | I only have two other rooms I'd want one in. |
| [19:57:44] | wagnerrp: | true, and they havent come down in price in recent history |
| [19:58:02] | wagnerrp: | the Colossus is quite a bit cheaper, but is a no go for Linux |
| [19:58:20] | caelor: | often, judging on pure economics, MythTV works out more expensive than the alternative |
| [19:58:46] | caelor: | it's a personal call whether the freedom and flexibility are worth that premium |
| [19:58:47] | wagnerrp: | the chipset manufacturer is not releasing the information in a manner that would allow for an open source driver |
| [19:58:50] | Waverly36: | Which is funny, as I got into MythTV so I didn't have to pay "the man"! |
| [19:59:11] | caelor: | "the man" often subsidises though |
| [19:59:20] | caelor: | in effect |
| [19:59:22] | wagnerrp: | well you're not paying "the man", you're spending a lot on hardware so you don't have to pay "the man" |
| [19:59:28] | Waverly36: | Well, true. |
| [20:00:49] | johnf1911: | http://askubuntu.com/questions/183372/lirc-zi . . . pvr-on-12-04 |
| [20:00:52] | johnf1911: | I've moved my question to askubuntu |
| [20:01:35] | johnf1911: | does anyone know if Jarod Wilson is ever online here? |
| [20:01:42] | johnf1911: | I suspect he'd know what this is all about :) |
| [20:01:49] | wagnerrp: | !seen j-rod |
| [20:01:49] | MythLogBot: | j-rod was last seen 317 days 3 hours 16 minutes 41 seconds ago |
| [20:02:50] | johnf1911: | not so promising that :) |
| [20:02:55] | johnf1911: | perhaps I'll email him later |
| [20:02:58] | johnf1911: | thanks wagnerrp |
| [20:03:07] | johnf1911: | you're always in the know :) |
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| [20:15:27] | MissDee: | hi all |
| [20:15:39] | MissDee: | tryign to ./confgure and I;ve failed at the first hurdle |
| [20:15:40] | MissDee: | g++ is unable to create an executable file. |
| [20:15:40] | MissDee: | Check your ECXXFLAGS: [ ] |
| [20:15:49] | MissDee: | any idea what I need to check for? :) |
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| [20:16:06] | MissDee: | it then goes on about cross compiling which im not tryign to do |
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| [20:22:39] | wizbit: | MissDee: are you root |
| [20:23:11] | MissDee: | i'm not yet |
| [20:23:17] | MissDee: | as I;m only configuring |
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| [20:23:32] | MissDee: | and this is in my home directory |
| [20:23:36] | MissDee: | all downlaoded as me |
| [20:23:52] | MissDee: | (from git) |
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| [20:24:09] | wizbit: | MissDee: first do this |
| [20:24:11] | wizbit: | make clean |
| [20:24:16] | wizbit: | ./configure |
| [20:25:05] | MissDee: | oh, that probably doesn;t help |
| [20:25:09] | ** MissDee installs make ** | |
| [20:25:23] | wizbit: | dont need to install make |
| [20:25:34] | wizbit: | that should be there, what distro/ |
| [20:25:38] | MissDee: | this is the first thing i;ve had to compile on this machine |
| [20:25:42] | MissDee: | I'll need it later |
| [20:25:50] | MissDee: | centos 6 |
| [20:25:52] | MissDee: | .5 |
| [20:25:56] | MissDee: | .3 even |
| [20:26:04] | wizbit: | that is not a good distro for mythtv |
| [20:26:31] | wizbit: | you will need to install centos multimedia repo |
| [20:26:41] | wizbit: | if its 6, you might be ok |
| [20:26:58] | MissDee: | I only want the backend on this machine |
| [20:27:24] | wizbit: | ok start fresh |
| [20:27:27] | MissDee: | make clean hasn;t helped as ./configure hasn;t run yet :) |
| [20:27:43] | wizbit: | type this su- |
| [20:27:49] | MissDee: | ok |
| [20:27:50] | wizbit: | su - |
| [20:28:06] | MissDee: | (I know linux admin, but do most things via rpm) |
| [20:28:15] | wizbit: | cd /usr/local/src/ |
| [20:28:33] | wizbit: | git clone git://github.com/MythTV/mythtv.git |
| [20:28:46] | wizbit: | let me know when you have done that |
| [20:29:00] | MissDee: | ok, that took 30 minutes last time, I'll move this structure there |
| [20:29:09] | MissDee: | as that is all I had done to start with |
| [20:29:10] | wizbit: | your structure might not be right |
| [20:29:25] | wizbit: | do it again, it should not take 30mins, unless you have a snail connection |
| [20:29:37] | MissDee: | I have a shitty wireless link :) |
| [20:29:45] | wizbit: | do it again. |
| [20:30:05] | wizbit: | mythtv is like a game of chess, you _must_ think first, before-you-move |
| [20:30:28] | MissDee: | please wait |
| [20:30:32] | wizbit: | ok |
| [20:36:25] | MissDee: | 67% |
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| [20:38:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you around? |
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| [20:39:21] | MissDee: | wizbit: done |
| [20:40:37] | MissDee: | update to 0.25 |
| [20:40:39] | wizbit: | now cd in mythtv |
| [20:40:40] | MissDee: | ? |
| [20:40:54] | MissDee: | and again? |
| [20:41:03] | wizbit: | /usr/local/src/mythtv/mythtv |
| [20:41:06] | wizbit: | cd /usr/local/src/mythtv/mythtv |
| [20:41:15] | MissDee: | done |
| [20:41:22] | wizbit: | ./configure |
| [20:41:32] | MissDee: | exactlyt he same |
| [20:41:37] | wizbit: | what does it say |
| [20:41:59] | wizbit: | try this |
| [20:42:00] | wizbit: | yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' |
| [20:42:06] | wizbit: | then try again |
| [20:42:09] | MissDee: | ttp://pastebin.com/S6xkjEFa |
| [20:43:44] | MissDee: | sorted |
| [20:43:45] | wizbit: | MissDee: have you intalled the development tools? |
| [20:43:47] | wizbit: | ok |
| [20:43:48] | MissDee: | gcc-c++ was missing |
| [20:43:52] | wizbit: | aye |
| [20:44:15] | MissDee: | I swear I installed that.. :) |
| [20:44:25] | wizbit: | mythtv is like a game of chess, you _must_ think first, before-you-move |
| [20:44:35] | MissDee: | it could do with a better error message :) |
| [20:44:41] | wizbit: | heh |
| [20:44:51] | MissDee: | g++ did not fails as it dieen;t exist :p |
| [20:45:46] | wagnerrp: | i think the "compiler" is just one of those things you assume someone is going to have when they are trying to build from source |
| [20:46:04] | MissDee: | I had gcc, etc |
| [20:46:12] | MissDee: | just not gcc-c++ :( |
| [20:46:28] | wagnerrp: | gcc is just the frontend |
| [20:53:47] | MissDee: | ok.... |
| [20:54:05] | MissDee: | I REALLY don;t want to install X on this server just for mythtv |
| [20:54:24] | wagnerrp: | so dont, just install the base X libs |
| [20:54:26] | MissDee: | seeing as I dont; want the frontened :) |
| [20:54:33] | wagnerrp: | you should already have them installed |
| [20:54:42] | MissDee: | and the 73 other packages required by qt :) |
| [20:54:44] | wagnerrp: | considering you had mythtv-setup installed previously |
| [20:54:59] | wagnerrp: | again, you should already have all this stuff installed |
| [20:55:08] | MissDee: | I dont; have nay mythtv packages installed |
| [20:55:27] | MissDee: | atrpms refused to install due to so conflicts |
| [20:55:50] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [20:56:07] | MissDee: | hence the original .8 vs .11 question |
| [20:56:21] | wagnerrp: | anyway, there is no separation between frontend and backend |
| [20:56:28] | MissDee: | oh, ok |
| [20:56:30] | wagnerrp: | they both get compiled and installed at the same time |
| [20:56:40] | wagnerrp: | and they both use the same shared libraries |
| [20:56:47] | MissDee: | that must be a package/setup differentiation then |
| [20:56:50] | wagnerrp: | the libraries cause most of the dependencies |
| [20:57:05] | wagnerrp: | and certain packagers simply choose to omit a few of the binaries |
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| [21:02:09] | Spacedementia87: | Hello again everyone |
| [21:02:19] | Spacedementia87: | Still having problems with my tv tuner being in use |
| [21:02:33] | Spacedementia87: | I managed to watch live tv for quite a while and stop it and start again |
| [21:02:48] | Spacedementia87: | however when I rebooted the PC the tuner was being used again |
| [21:02:53] | MissDee: | yet another 30+ packages for qtwebkit :) |
| [21:03:05] | Spacedementia87: | If I start up with the card unplugged then plug it in then I am fine |
| [21:03:21] | Spacedementia87: | but if I start up with the card plugged in then something else starts using it first |
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| [21:05:00] | MissDee: | wooo, i'm making |
| [21:05:05] | MissDee: | thanks |
| [21:05:20] | Spacedementia87: | any ideas? |
| [21:06:49] | MissDee: | Spacedementia87: not me. sorry |
| [21:08:45] | Spacedementia87: | thanks MissDee |
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| [21:22:38] | Spacedementia87: | nothing? :( |
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| [21:35:39] | Spacedementia87: | lsof | greb /dev/dvb/ gives no results |
| [21:36:01] | MissDee: | missing module? |
| [21:36:06] | MissDee: | does a replug help? |
| [21:36:19] | Spacedementia87: | No I have to unplug, reboot then plug in |
| [21:36:35] | MissDee: | what does /var/log/messages ordmesg say when it's plugged in vs booting? |
| [21:38:26] | Spacedementia87: | unfortunately /var/log/messages doesn't exist |
| [21:38:38] | MissDee: | or your distros equivalant |
| [21:40:14] | Spacedementia87: | I'm not sure where that mnight be |
| [21:46:37] | Spacedementia87: | for ubuntu? |
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| [21:51:44] | Spacedementia87: | now it's reporting as busy even after the reboot trick |
| [21:53:17] | bill6502: | wagnerrp: Does MythLog (as used in mythvidexport.py for example ) use mythlogserver? |
| [21:53:38] | wagnerrp: | not as committed upstream |
| [21:53:44] | MissDee: | ok, is it possible to setup mythtv (backend) without an X server? |
| [21:53:49] | wagnerrp: | i have such capability mostly written, but not yet functional |
| [21:54:00] | wagnerrp: | missdee: no, you need an X server "somewhere" |
| [21:54:08] | ** MissDee sighs ** | |
| [21:54:13] | MissDee: | ok |
| [21:54:37] | wagnerrp: | the X server can be a VNC server, remote X server on Linux box, remote X server on Windows box, etc.... |
| [21:54:44] | MissDee: | yeah |
| [21:54:47] | wagnerrp: | you just need one somewhere, it doesnt matter where |
| [21:54:57] | MissDee: | I don;t have any setup at the moment |
| [21:55:36] | MissDee: | as the whole idea was a headles linux server with local (windows or web) clients :) |
| [21:56:15] | wagnerrp: | you only need it running while configuring the backend, it can be shut down at other times |
| [21:56:37] | wagnerrp: | and mythtv-setup is being replaced by a web application built into the backend |
| [21:57:06] | wagnerrp: | (implying the backend could then be started without any previous configuration) |
| [21:57:41] | wagnerrp: | but thats a long way off, maybe 0.27, not 0.26 |
| [21:58:02] | bill6502: | wagnerrp: Thanks, based on Stephan's on the -users list "Logging question" thread it appears to accept --syslog and maybe --logpath? |
| [21:58:14] | Spacedementia87: | I tried changing some permissions on the tv card and still no luck |
| [21:58:38] | sid3windr: | xming works nicely as windows x-server btw |
| [21:58:47] | MissDee: | sid3windr: yeah, just installed it |
| [21:59:00] | MissDee: | just need to remember how to do the X part now :) |
| [22:03:10] | Spacedementia87: | Any idea how I can find out what is using m tvcard? |
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| [22:07:54] | noii: | I've been using mythtv happily for ages, but just today all my listings are now showing "NO DATA" (I'm using EIT for listings and I'm in the UK), any idea what might have broken? |
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| [22:20:13] | Spacedementia87: | I am actually watching live TV and lsof | grep /dev/dvb/ still gives 0 results |
| [22:20:22] | Spacedementia87: | Am I looking at the wrong thing? |
| [22:29:30] | wagnerrp: | bill6502: ? |
| [22:29:42] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [22:30:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah, those were implemented as part of 0.25, and didnt change in 0.26 |
| [22:30:43] | wagnerrp: | the only difference in 0.26 is that logging is routed through mythlogserver, so that queued logs aren't lost as a result of an application crash |
| [22:32:18] | bill6502: | wagnerrp: Thanks, again. |
| [22:32:50] | Spacedementia87: | wagnerrp: are you stumped on mine now? Thanks for you your help earlier by the way |
| [22:33:41] | wagnerrp: | no idea why it would report being open/locked when lsof reports nothing |
| [22:33:59] | Spacedementia87: | am i using the right strong in grep? |
| [22:34:16] | Spacedementia87: | i mean it reports nothing even if I am actually watching live tv, or scanning channels |
| [22:35:59] | wagnerrp: | it may be taking '/' as some special syntax character |
| [22:36:07] | wagnerrp: | try \/ instead |
| [22:36:16] | bill6502: | Spacedementia87: sudo lsof | grep /dev/dvb/ I just tested it on my box with and without |
| [22:36:43] | bill6502: | (without returns nothing) |
| [22:37:41] | awalls: | grep '/dev/dvb' |
| [22:37:46] | awalls: | work for me |
| [22:37:53] | Spacedementia87: | ahh the sudo got it! Can' believe i haven't tried that before. Looks like tvheadend is using it! |
| [22:38:01] | Spacedementia87: | how odd, I have never even installed that |
| [22:38:52] | Spacedementia87: | right, i will uninstall that and then reboot and report back! |
| [22:41:50] | Spacedementia87: | looks promising |
| [22:42:50] | Spacedementia87: | Woo yeah! |
| [22:42:55] | Spacedementia87: | Thank you so much everyone! |
| [22:45:11] | noii: | my backend status has this "WARNING: is mythfilldatabase running? ", but I don't think it is. do you know where I could look for more info? logs? |
| [22:45:49] | wagnerrp: | its probably reporting that because you have no guide data |
| [22:46:02] | wagnerrp: | if you are using EIT, you dont need to run mythfilldatabase |
| [22:47:00] | noii: | I have guide data up until the 1st of september 23:30, and now nothing |
| [22:47:11] | noii: | I'm not sure what's changed |
| [22:47:30] | wagnerrp: | is it possible your local transmitters were reconfigured? |
| [22:47:46] | wagnerrp: | not so much that mythtv couldnt figure out how to tune, but enough to screw up EIT grabbing? |
| [22:47:57] | wagnerrp: | it might be worthwhile to try to rescan your channels |
| [22:48:00] | noii: | maybe. I tried rescanning all the channels |
| [22:48:10] | noii: | didn't seem to fix anything |
| [22:48:17] | wagnerrp: | in mythtv-setup, correct? not as a channels.conf? |
| [22:48:42] | noii: | yes |
| [22:50:24] | noii: | I thought about trying to switch over to Uk xmltv for listings to fix it, but I'm curious to know what's broken |
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| [23:26:35] | wagnerrp: | !seen kormoc |
| [23:26:35] | MythLogBot: | kormoc was last seen 1 day 21 hours 53 minutes 26 seconds ago |
| [23:43:40] | ** awalls imagines MythLogBot with the voice of Sergeant Joe Friday ** | |
| [23:45:35] | wagnerrp: | god damnit |
| [23:45:44] | wagnerrp: | now im never again going to be able to just read it |
| [23:45:56] | awalls: | hehe :) |
| [23:46:42] | wagnerrp: | im going to have to sound it out like a monotonous dan aykroyd |
| [23:46:54] | awalls: | Don't forget the musical score |
| [23:47:11] | wagnerrp: | dun dun dunnnn... dun dun dun dun dunnnnn.... |
| [23:47:19] | awalls: | :) |
| [23:48:10] | wagnerrp: | is that with or without goat leggings? |
| [23:48:31] | awalls: | !seem goat_leggings |
| [23:48:39] | awalls: | !seen goat_leggings |
| [23:48:40] | MythLogBot: | goat_leggings has not been seen here |
| [23:48:50] | awalls: | Nope, no goat leggings |
| [23:49:45] | wagnerrp: | must have left them with connie swail |
| [23:49:59] | awalls: | The virgin Connie Swail? |
| [23:50:07] | ** wagnerrp stares back at awalls ** | |
| [23:50:26] | awalls: | hey, it was a line from the movie! |
| [23:50:35] | wagnerrp: | so was the stare |
| [23:50:38] | awalls: | Oh wait, haha! |
| [23:50:44] | awalls: | I'm slow. |
| [23:51:11] | awalls: | It need to be punctuated: dunnn duh dun dun |
| [23:51:23] | awalls: | Film really translates terribly to IRC |
| [23:52:16] | wagnerrp: | you even followed perfectly with the setup |
| [23:52:23] | wagnerrp: | i figured you knew where i was going with it |
| [23:53:33] | awalls: | I guess I'm no good as a straight man. |
| [23:53:57] | ** awalls cringes at the possible double entendre ** | |
| [23:54:34] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i was trying to come up with a good response to that |
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