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| [01:39:33] | dj_segfault1: | Hi. I had a server crash and am migrating my old mythtv files to another server. I have the database installed an mythtv-setup upgraded them. Here's my question: It doesn't have the storage group info anymore. I have recordings in /data2/mythtv/recordings, /data3/mythtv/recordings, and /data4/mythtv/recordings. When I add the storage groups back, do I tell it /data2/mythtv, or do I tell it /data2/mythtv/rec |
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| [01:51:57] | dj_segfault1: | Also lost the capture card info, etc. I don't know why. I thought that would be in the database. I have a PVR-350. I have to set that up as an MPEG card, right? |
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| [03:06:52] | bill6502: | dj_segfault1: Is the hostname of your new server the same as the crashed one? Storage groups are stored in the database with their name, host and path. To your other question, use the full path. |
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| [03:25:31] | dj_segfault1: | bill6502: Ah, that's why. I noticed some other wackyness from the import. The back end thought the old crashed machine was the master |
| [03:25:56] | dj_segfault1: | And it thinks there are two tuners; one in the old machine and one in the new machine. |
| [03:26:05] | dj_segfault1: | Gonna have to figure out that stuff. |
| [03:27:04] | dj_segfault1: | Also I just got mythweb working, and in the "Status" column it has the name I gave the tuner in this machine. I assume that behavior will go away when I delete the other one and remove the name from this one. |
| [03:27:32] | dj_segfault1: | In short, I think the new machine thinks there |
| [03:27:44] | dj_segfault1: | there's another machine out there which is the master back end. |
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| [03:46:34] | bill6502: | dj_segfault1: I haven't gone through what you're doing, but its been discussed on the -users mailing list a lot. I'm sure you can search the archives for it. Also, this link may help: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . d_or_backend . |
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| [09:36:33] | macprisoner: | Hey folks, I have tried using the macports guide on the wiki, but on all 3 machines the frontend is segfaulting. :( I've googled around, but haven't found much. |
| [09:40:38] | darkstarbyte: | I have an idea |
| [09:41:12] | macprisoner: | I'm listening...unless your idea is to install ubuntu. :) |
| [09:41:12] | darkstarbyte: | Could you open up a terminal and run the myth front end and post the out put? |
| [09:41:17] | darkstarbyte: | I am off to sleep. |
| [09:41:29] | darkstarbyte: | not in here |
| [09:41:37] | macprisoner: | I'll pastebin it. |
| [09:41:38] | darkstarbyte: | but post the output in a pastebin. |
| [09:41:56] | darkstarbyte: | Good night, and hope some super user of mythtv can help. |
| [09:42:12] | darkstarbyte: | and I hope* |
| [09:42:32] | macprisoner: | Thanks. :) |
| [09:44:32] | macprisoner: | Output of mythfrontend compiled from mackports segfaulting: http://pastebin.com/Jkfp8cDi |
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| [12:51:02] | russell5: | is there any way to re record old recording only if there in hd? i have since deleted the recording but did not forget them |
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| [13:04:31] | sphery: | russell5: you'd need to create a rule for it with a filter that says HD only, but note that the "HD" indicator used to do so is provided by your listings, so depending on where you get them, you may or may not get an indicator |
| [13:05:25] | russell5: | i have a rule for the show. I see the HD box but will that re record an episode that has already recorded in the past? |
| [13:05:33] | sphery: | russell5: I think in 0.25 and below, you specify HD only by using a Custom/Power Rule (using "Custom Edit" (in menu) or Manage Recordings|Schedule Recordings|Custom Rules or something to that effect) |
| [13:05:49] | sphery: | ah, if you have an HD box, that should be what you want |
| [13:06:04] | sphery: | if you deleted the episode with, "Delete and allow re-record", it will re-record |
| [13:06:27] | sphery: | if you deleted with plain old "Delete", then it won't allow re-record if you have specified a duplicate check method (anything other than None) |
| [13:06:29] | russell5: | yeah i never hit delete and allow re-record |
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| [13:07:24] | sphery: | so you can either change to None dup check method or go to Manage Recordings|Previously Recorded, find the episode in the list (note that you can change sort from time to title by hitting 2), then SELECT (Space or Enter) and something about Allow this episode to re-record |
| [13:07:43] | sphery: | (or even just delete the episode from the list... maybe something about "Forget this..."?) |
| [13:08:06] | russell5: | yeah but i want to do this for all episodes of the show. i think like 8 seasons |
| [13:08:16] | sphery: | ok |
| [13:09:18] | sphery: | go to Manage Recordings|Previously Recorded find an episode of the show in the list (note that you can change sort from time to title by hitting 2), then SELECT (Space or Enter) and something about remove all episodes of this series... |
| [13:09:34] | russell5: | oh ok |
| [13:09:49] | sphery: | I don't remember the wording, but it should be pretty clear once you get there :) |
| [13:10:09] | sphery: | the hard part is knowing you can do it and where to find the option |
| [13:10:24] | sphery: | anyway, good luck, and enjoy your HDTV versions |
| [13:11:02] | sphery: | oh, and note that you may get some shows marked as HDTV, even though you're recording them from, say, a cable box hooked to a standard-def PVR-150 |
| [13:11:07] | russell5: | lol thanks i think it worked |
| [13:11:32] | sphery: | which means you may need to use a custom/power rule to specify which video source(s) to use, depending on your setup |
| [13:11:32] | russell5: | using a cable card with dcr 1650 |
| [13:11:44] | sphery: | yeah, if that's your only video source, you should be good |
| [13:11:51] | sphery: | it will be as good as your listings... |
| [13:12:07] | russell5: | yup and it seems my listing are good. lets hope so |
| [13:12:19] | sphery: | the biggest problem with Schedules Direct listings, though, is that now that a majority of shows are HDTV, they don't always seem to specify HDTV |
| [13:12:59] | sphery: | try it like it is, for now, though |
| [13:13:02] | sphery: | may just work |
| [13:13:08] | russell5: | ahh ok i will keep an eye on them |
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| [13:13:16] | russell5: | thanks for your help |
| [13:13:27] | sphery: | otherwise, you'll have to look at possibly removing the HDTV flag from the rule and specify "this channel" type rules or something |
| [13:13:30] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [13:13:52] | russell5: | yeah that would work too. (its really only on 1 channel) |
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| [13:14:52] | Niffum: | Is there any way to make mythtv consolidate logging into just a few files? |
| [13:15:10] | Niffum: | so stop it from making a billion files that start with mythpreviewgen |
| [13:15:45] | Niffum: | ? |
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| [13:51:57] | sphery: | Niffum: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Logging , where you'll need to use syslog (if you want to control file naming/message placement), and use http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Syslog_Configuration_Files |
| [13:53:13] | sphery: | Niffum: for example, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Templated_rsyslog_Configuration , where you uncomment the template line for # – Use a single log file for all logging from any MythTV application: and comment the currently uncommented one |
| [13:53:51] | sphery: | or http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Simple_rsyslog_Configuration , where you'll get one log file per application (not per process--meaning only one log file for all of mythpreviewgen) |
| [13:54:23] | sphery: | Niffum: plus, see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Logrotate . . . ration_Files |
| [13:54:37] | Niffum: | i use syslog-ng |
| [13:55:00] | Niffum: | i was happy with having them all in the /var/log/mythtv directory |
| [13:55:10] | Niffum: | I just wish it woudln't create a billion files |
| [13:55:15] | Niffum: | one file a day is plenty |
| [13:55:24] | sphery: | Niffum: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Syslog_Configuration_Files has one for syslog-ng, but it's only for master/unstable/development/0.26pre ... you could use it as a guide to create one for 0.25-fixes |
| [13:56:05] | Niffum: | I was hoping to just pass a command to mythtv to tell it to just do what every other program does.. create one file a day |
| [13:56:07] | sphery: | and if you do, feel free to post the config in the wiki |
| [13:56:12] | Niffum: | thats not part of syslog |
| [13:56:35] | sphery: | we create one file per process because otherwise, we end up with useless logging that makes it hard to debug issues |
| [13:56:55] | Niffum: | I was trying to do a tail -f and ... i have to ls -al|grep date |
| [13:56:57] | sphery: | unlike most other apps, we have tons of processes logging information |
| [13:56:59] | Niffum: | to find the right one |
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| [13:57:04] | Niffum: | i know, its fantastic |
| [13:57:14] | Niffum: | just a mission to find the right log |
| [13:57:51] | sphery: | and in 0.24-fixes and below, you end up with mythpreviewgen logging inside mythbackend.log, and users saying, "mythbackend dies with 'invalid protocol version'" (which is completely impossible, as mythbackend can not be incompatible with itself) |
| [13:58:05] | Niffum: | I have logcheck or whatever it is called |
| [13:58:18] | sphery: | but with the new logging, we enabled syslog logging for user/distro control over log file naming and message placement |
| [13:58:30] | Niffum: | and it emails me logs that it doesn't knwo about, which ment mythtv was emailing me every hour on the hour |
| [13:58:40] | sphery: | allowing you to do anything from a single file for all mythtv logging to a single file per application name to ... whatever you can imagine |
| [13:58:46] | Niffum: | i'm using version 25 |
| [13:58:59] | Niffum: | i'll poke around syslog-ng |
| [13:59:06] | sphery: | yeah, so you'll have to start with http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Simple_syslog-ng_Configuration and modify it as required |
| [13:59:30] | sphery: | actually, looking at it, it seems it's not 0.26 only... should work fine for 0.25, too |
| [13:59:52] | Niffum: | its been a while since ive delt with syslog-ng but i did it with zoneminder |
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| [14:00:25] | sphery: | and can add in additional destinations/filters/definitions for other apps, too--where http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Simple_rsyslog_Configuration has all the apps (save mythlogserver, which will be new in 0.26) |
| [14:01:02] | sphery: | if you add additional ones, please add them to the wiki page, too (to help complete that page) |
| [14:01:11] | Niffum: | so to put the logs back in syslog I just re-add the syslog tag in the /etc/init.d/mythtvbackend |
| [14:01:12] | Niffum: | ? |
| [14:01:18] | sphery: | btw, it's new as of 2 days ago or so, so we appreciate your help finishing it |
| [14:01:39] | Niffum: | yeah, i'll update it |
| [14:01:40] | sphery: | yeah, --syslog <facility> in your start script for mythbackend and mythfrontend |
| [14:01:52] | sphery: | and then add the syslog-ng configuration you need |
| [14:02:16] | Niffum: | EXTRA_ARGS="--loglevel notice --logpath /var/log/mythtv" |
| [14:02:22] | Niffum: | and i just remove the log path from that right? |
| [14:02:27] | sphery: | I didn't do up a syslog-ng config because I use rsyslog, so I couldn't test syslog-ng config |
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| [14:03:02] | jams: | actually found rsyslog to be better then syslog-ng at least in terms of network logging |
| [14:03:14] | Niffum: | *blinks* |
| [14:03:15] | Niffum: | how so ? |
| [14:03:36] | Niffum: | i set syslog-ng up a long time ago so i could log between machines |
| [14:03:42] | Niffum: | and from the stupid router that i hacked up |
| [14:04:01] | jams: | well in my experiance syslog-ng will sometimes fail to reconnect if a network problem occurs |
| [14:04:16] | sphery: | the loglevel notice is optional--it will exclude some info |
| [14:04:26] | jams: | just my exp..use whatever you want |
| [14:04:28] | sphery: | we normally log at info level (giving all but debug) and it shouldn't be too verbose |
| [14:04:50] | sphery: | but, you won't want --logpath /var/log/mythtv |
| [14:04:56] | sphery: | that does the file logging with the per-instance files |
| [14:05:12] | sphery: | so you'll want --syslog local7 (or other facility as desired) |
| [14:05:20] | Niffum: | i'll probably change it back to info. I had to at least cut the logging down because it was emailing me the logs at work |
| [14:05:30] | sphery: | i.e.: EXTRA_ARGS="--syslog local7" |
| [14:05:35] | Niffum: | why 7 ? |
| [14:05:47] | sphery: | you can just leave out the loglevel and get the default (of info) |
| [14:05:58] | sphery: | 7 is a generally unused syslog facility |
| [14:06:21] | sphery: | the general idea being that if you use a facility only for mythtv apps, then it's easy to filter mythtv log messages--just do it by facility |
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| [14:06:50] | sphery: | but you have to provide some facility... there's local0 through local7 |
| [14:07:08] | sphery: | the others don't really make sense for mythtv--things like kern or lpr or mail or news or syslog |
| [14:07:26] | sphery: | and even user isn't really right--since this is more of a local service |
| [14:07:57] | sphery: | hehe, there's even a uucp facility... you can tell the vintage of the syslog specification :) |
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| [14:14:04] | Niffum: | where did you get these from |
| [14:14:05] | Niffum: | filter f_mythbackend { facility("local7") and match("mythbackend" value("MESSAGE")); }; |
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| [14:14:33] | sphery: | a user who had set up syslog-ng logging on his system posted themn |
| [14:14:35] | Niffum: | looking through my notes it looks like i was matching the program name |
| [14:15:31] | sphery: | but that's basically saying if it's local7 faciliity and says mythbackend in the message... so the definitions uses that filter with the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log destination to write mythbackend messages to one file |
| [14:16:14] | Niffum: | yeah |
| [14:16:24] | Niffum: | its just come up with an error |
| [14:16:26] | sphery: | filtering on program name can work, too, for 0.25 |
| [14:16:47] | sphery: | for 0.26, it won't--since all logging is written to syslog via a separate application called mythlogserver |
| [14:17:02] | sphery: | it then indicates the true source of the log message in the message itself |
| [14:17:17] | Niffum: | ook |
| [14:17:30] | sphery: | actually, for 0.25, you'd have to match on program name... we won't have program name in the message in 0.256 |
| [14:17:33] | sphery: | er, 0.25 |
| [14:17:33] | Niffum: | so what you are saying is its not going to be very usefull in the future for me to setup logging based on the program |
| [14:17:58] | sphery: | yeah, it looks like you'll have to change your config once you upgrade to 0.26 |
| [14:18:12] | sphery: | or just use the 0.26 config |
| [14:18:27] | sphery: | but include an or in the filter matching program name |
| [14:18:32] | sphery: | so it will work for either |
| [14:21:05] | sphery: | Niffum: something like (untested/written by a guy who hasn't used syslog-ng in ~4yrs): filter f_mythbackend { facility("local7") and ( program("mythbackend") or match("mythbackend" value("MESSAGE")) ); }; |
| [14:21:23] | sphery: | should work for either 0.25 or 0.26 |
| [14:21:45] | sphery: | and do the same for the others |
| [14:23:00] | Niffum: | I think my syslog-ng is 3 years old |
| [14:23:37] | sphery: | my 4yrs comment was questioning my memory more than the syslog-ng configuration format :) |
| [14:24:01] | Niffum: | i didn't even read your comment |
| [14:24:15] | Niffum: | so its kinda funny now |
| [14:24:19] | sphery: | hehe |
| [14:25:54] | Niffum: | i'll bbl, have to work out what it changed in the config |
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| [14:27:11] | sphery: | good luck |
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| [14:48:03] | fafa88_: | Upgrading to 0.26 and crossing my fingers :) |
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| [14:51:12] | bill6502: | sphery: I just added a section below 0.25 for 0.26 in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Simple_rsyslog_Configuration based on the discussion on the -users list. |
| [14:53:02] | bill6502: | I'll add a link in the Special Notices & Instructions section of the 0.26 release notes. |
| [14:58:30] | sphery: | thanks |
| [14:59:08] | Niffum: | upgraded, the syslog-ng stuff worked |
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| [14:59:20] | Niffum: | the only thing I had was it ... keeps broadcasting to every root console |
| [14:59:33] | Niffum: | so I chagned filter f_crit { level(crit .. emerg); }; |
| [14:59:40] | Niffum: | to filter f_crit { level(crit .. emerg) and not facility("local7"); }; |
| [15:00:30] | Niffum: | now all i need to be able to do is remember why I was doing this |
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| [15:17:12] | Niffum: | oh yeah, trying to get it to pay on my android |
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| [16:25:50] | jarle: | sometimes my frontend will freeze for more than a minute, while doing a simple task like deleting a recording. I'm thinking it might be mysql related? Any hints on where to look for a solution? (optimize_mythdb.pl is run weekly), other stuff that can cause this behaviour? |
| [16:31:07] | jarle: | I notice that my backend log is filling up with this: http://pastebin.com/uSPfAZaF |
| [16:31:24] | jarle: | Do I need to manually edit the db to fix this problem? |
| [16:33:37] | jarle: | I would think that it would be possible to delete the recording (from the frontend) even if the file does not exist?? |
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| [16:38:39] | Niffum: | you got mythweb installed? |
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| [16:38:59] | jarle: | Niffum: yes |
| [16:39:02] | Niffum: | I usually go through that under all programs, sort by file size and delete everything that comes up was just B |
| [16:39:06] | Niffum: | or 0 for the file size |
| [16:39:20] | jarle: | seems my problem is related to this bug: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10511 |
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| [16:40:01] | jarle: | Niffum: yes, I have used this before, but I did not think of using is to solve this. Thank you! |
| [16:40:30] | Niffum: | I was thinking that you had an issue with recordings not existing |
| [16:40:35] | Niffum: | thats my usual one |
| [16:41:40] | jarle: | Niffum: uhm, avtually this won't work as the file size will not be 0 bytes (in the db) |
| [16:42:15] | Niffum: | how many you got? |
| [16:42:16] | jarle: | I'll just have to "touch" the missing files I guess... (so the recording can be deleted) |
| [16:42:23] | Niffum: | yeah, thats what i did before |
| [16:42:31] | jarle: | Niffum: think only two... |
| [16:42:40] | Niffum: | there are some scripts you might want to try |
| [16:42:46] | Niffum: | related to it running slow |
| [16:42:51] | Niffum: | mine runs REALLY slow |
| [16:42:53] | Niffum: | untill i run |
| [16:43:42] | Niffum: | this one /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/maintenance/optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [16:49:44] | tgm4883: | jarle, Niffum what you probably want to use is http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [16:49:53] | tgm4883: | to delete recordings that are missing files |
| [16:49:57] | tgm4883: | or vice versa |
| [16:54:47] | Niffum: | do you have to put it in a particular directory? |
| [17:01:37] | darkstarbyte: | Wow, EIT data is ballsy enough to call the big bang theory baseball. |
| [17:01:39] | Niffum: | oh, well, you apparently need to instally the pyton-mysqldb |
| [17:01:53] | darkstarbyte: | theory, baseball? |
| [17:02:27] | wagnerrp: | the configure script checks to make sure that library is installed before it will install the python bindings |
| [17:02:37] | wagnerrp: | similarly, any decent packages should be doing the same |
| [17:03:41] | Niffum: | not sure what you mean by that |
| [17:03:48] | bill6502: | Niffum: No, you can put Find_orphans.py wherever you like. I prefer ~/bin. |
| [17:04:24] | Niffum: | this script is awsome |
| [17:04:26] | wagnerrp: | i mean, in order to use find_orphans.py, you need to install the mythtv python bindings... in order to install the mythtv python bindings, you need to install the python mysqldb library |
| [17:04:44] | wagnerrp: | your package manager should have already taken care of all of that |
| [17:04:46] | Niffum: | that should be the case, yes |
| [17:05:14] | Niffum: | but apt-get install python-mythtv didn't |
| [17:05:28] | ** wagnerrp really needs to stop screwing around and get all this stuff updated for 0.26 ** | |
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| [17:09:35] | GTRsdk: | Anyone know of a server program that works for Internet TV channels that is compatible with MythTV? |
| [17:09:54] | wagnerrp: | mythtv itself is |
| [17:11:04] | GTRsdk: | How would I use that for an Internet TV channel then? |
| [17:11:35] | GTRsdk: | and would it work with VLC too? |
| [17:11:39] | wagnerrp: | create an m3u containing the locations of multicast RTP streams, and give it to mythtv's IPTV recorder |
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| [17:15:56] | wagnerrp: | uh oh... R has escaped his box |
| [17:16:38] | GTRsdk: | wagnerrp: so then what would be used for the RTP streams? |
| [17:16:48] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean? |
| [17:17:18] | GTRsdk: | would mythtv work for broadcasting (maybe that's a better word for it than streaming?) the channel? |
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| [17:17:46] | wagnerrp: | oh, you want to PRODUCE interent tv, not RECEIVE it |
| [17:17:58] | GTRsdk: | yes |
| [17:18:33] | wagnerrp: | well theres the HLS code in 0.25 |
| [17:18:45] | wagnerrp: | but the configurability still leaves something to be desired as yet |
| [17:18:53] | wagnerrp: | the encoding options are all hard coded |
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| [17:27:09] | GTRsdk: | If I want my channel to work with WMP, VLC, and MythTV, what should be used for the server software? |
| [17:27:42] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend will only work with mythbackend, so that's already chosen |
| [17:27:57] | wagnerrp: | more modern browsers will work with the HLS server in mythbackend too |
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| [17:49:01] | johnf1911: | Yesterday I upgraded my ubuntu backend machine to 12.04 |
| [17:49:15] | johnf1911: | I'm using a HD-PVR capture card, it's also used as an IR blaster |
| [17:49:30] | johnf1911: | I used to have the blaster working properly, but now when I IR send I get |
| [17:49:37] | johnf1911: | irsend: hardware does not support sending |
| [17:51:15] | johnf1911: | here is a bit more detailed console output: http://pastie.org/4646875 |
| [17:51:36] | johnf1911: | I'd welcome any suggestions on what I can do to get it sorted |
| [17:52:33] | johnf1911: | I should note I created the modprobe.d configuration for tx only: |
| [17:52:50] | johnf1911: | options lirc_zilog tx_only=1 |
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| [18:28:45] | lapion: | I have 3 analog tuners but still I cannot be watching tv without messing up recordings |
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| [18:31:56] | R_: | lapion: you're going to have to be a little more specific |
| [18:33:50] | lapion: | while watching tv if a recording is set on another channel the system asks if I want to continue watching or watch the recording, instead of using a different tuner |
| [18:34:47] | R_: | there is a setting in the frontend |
| [18:34:53] | R_: | about livetv bumping recordings |
| [18:34:59] | R_: | or rescheduling ercordings from livetv |
| [18:35:06] | R_: | something like that |
| [18:35:55] | lapion: | if I do that the system looks for any possible later recordings in stead of using another tv-card |
| [18:36:55] | darkstarbyte: | Has anyone else noticed that some things about mythtv are a little hacky? |
| [18:37:40] | tgm4883: | lapion, yes, because that is what you told it to do? |
| [18:37:49] | lapion: | no tgm4883 |
| [18:37:56] | R_: | darkstarbyte: "a little hacky"? |
| [18:38:04] | tgm4883: | lapion, or perhaps you want to use the card that is less likely to conflict with scheduled recordings |
| [18:38:11] | wagnerrp: | darkstarbyte: you have to be more specific, mythtv encompasses better than a million lines of code |
| [18:38:24] | R_ is now known as R | |
| [18:38:26] | R is now known as [R] | |
| [18:38:30] | [R]: | one MILLION lines |
| [18:38:31] | lapion: | all 3 cards have the same quality and the same cable connection |
| [18:38:38] | darkstarbyte: | [R], Not everything just works, you sort of have to dick with stuff. |
| [18:38:44] | tgm4883: | [R], you need the pinky to the mouth expression |
| [18:38:54] | [R]: | darkstarbyte: like... |
| [18:39:12] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, at the risk of sounding like a dick, works for me (TM) |
| [18:39:48] | darkstarbyte: | mythlink |
| [18:40:05] | darkstarbyte: | Why can't that be default? |
| [18:40:06] | wagnerrp: | should work fine, do you have a specific error with it? |
| [18:40:10] | [R]: | darkstarbyte: huh? |
| [18:40:22] | tgm4883: | .. |
| [18:40:30] | wagnerrp: | why would it be default? the default behavior is to access content through mythfrontend |
| [18:40:33] | darkstarbyte: | It would be nice if it would set names by default instead of those time stamp names. |
| [18:40:46] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, you have to have a unique filename |
| [18:40:55] | darkstarbyte: | easy |
| [18:40:56] | wagnerrp: | anyone who would want to use mythlink is going to have their own paths they want to use, and their own formatting syntax they want to use |
| [18:41:07] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, easy? |
| [18:41:11] | wagnerrp: | so no one would be satisfied were it enabled by default |
| [18:41:32] | [R]: | wagnerrp: does yoru fuse filesystem still work? |
| [18:41:33] | darkstarbyte: | $TITLE – $INFO_ABOUT_SHOW |
| [18:41:39] | wagnerrp: | probably not at current |
| [18:41:50] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, where would $INFO_ABOUT_SHOW pull from? |
| [18:41:57] | wagnerrp: | ill look into getting it running again once i clean up the last of my 0.26 stuff |
| [18:42:09] | darkstarbyte: | Made it up as a variable to show what I mean in a bash string. |
| [18:42:11] | wagnerrp: | i really stopped using it around the same time i started using ZFS |
| [18:42:23] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, would it pull from subtitle or description? |
| [18:42:39] | wagnerrp: | FUSE just sucks down too much memory, and my system just doesnt have the spare memory to run it well |
| [18:42:50] | darkstarbyte: | description would be better, because EIT data can really get terrible with sub titles. |
| [18:43:10] | wagnerrp: | darkstarbyte: descriptions can be up to 16k characters long |
| [18:43:11] | darkstarbyte: | Sub titles being |
| [18:43:13] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, ok, what do you do for generic info? |
| [18:43:15] | wagnerrp: | filenames are limited to 255 characters |
| [18:43:16] | darkstarbyte: | wait |
| [18:43:27] | darkstarbyte: | wagnerrp, You don't have to include the whole thing |
| [18:43:45] | wagnerrp: | how do you intelligently, programmatically limit what data you include? |
| [18:43:53] | wagnerrp: | do you just want everything to end in '...'? |
| [18:44:04] | darkstarbyte: | yes |
| [18:44:09] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, ok, what do you do for generic shows? |
| [18:44:09] | wagnerrp: | thats just stupid |
| [18:44:33] | darkstarbyte: | shows – generic, and some how different... |
| [18:44:47] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, well that's helpful |
| [18:44:55] | tgm4883: | "IDK how to fix it, you should just fix it" |
| [18:45:04] | darkstarbyte: | The data is not always helpful. |
| [18:45:35] | wagnerrp: | so if the data is no always helpful, why would you use it to name your files? |
| [18:45:48] | wagnerrp: | at least the time stamp indicates one specific recording |
| [18:45:51] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, so there needs to be something unique appended to the filename to ensure it is unique? |
| [18:45:53] | darkstarbyte: | If two have the same 100+ character description they should be something like |
| [18:46:12] | darkstarbyte: | show_name – description, repeat? |
| [18:46:26] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, who says it's a repeat? |
| [18:46:26] | wagnerrp: | darkstarbyte: you're missing the initial key reason |
| [18:46:27] | lapion: | darkstarbyte, did you by chance work on the fat32 project ? |
| [18:46:30] | darkstarbyte: | and repeat1 |
| [18:46:34] | darkstarbyte: | 2 and 3 |
| [18:46:44] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to bother screwing around with human readable filenames is if you want humans to read it |
| [18:46:48] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, that isn't much help to the end user |
| [18:46:49] | darkstarbyte: | I did not work on fat32 |
| [18:47:06] | lapion: | you would have been perfect designer of microsoft lfn extension. |
| [18:47:14] | wagnerrp: | the typical mythtv setup does not involve users screwing around with the recording files |
| [18:47:15] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, so basically, just append a unique number on the end of the filename? |
| [18:47:46] | darkstarbyte: | if two descriptions seem to be the same. |
| [18:48:03] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, can you commit this zero line patch that I am going to submit to you that just adds the timestamp to the filename? |
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| [18:48:23] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [18:48:25] | lapion: | darkstarbyte, how do you handle shows with the same description for every daily broadcasting |
| [18:48:36] | darkstarbyte: | name – description and stuff at the end if it seems to be repeated. |
| [18:48:50] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, it was a reference to the fact that the way mythtv does it already is pretty good. Hence a 0 line patch |
| [18:49:24] | wagnerrp: | darkstarbyte: you're still making things excessively complex internally just to deal with the assumption users are going to be dicking around with the files |
| [18:49:30] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, so basically, you want to change the filename to make it more descriptive, unless it's a generic show, in which case don't make it more descriptive |
| [18:49:40] | wagnerrp: | we dont _want_ users doing that unless they actually know what they're doing |
| [18:49:57] | wagnerrp: | and if they _do_ know what they're doing, they can query the backend and/or database to figure out what that file is |
| [18:50:01] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, sounds like a better solution is to not touch mythtv's internal files directly |
| [18:50:19] | tgm4883: | IMO, user's shouldn't be touching recordings |
| [18:50:39] | wagnerrp: | so all your proposal does is make it easier for the clueless to mess with things they shouldnt |
| [18:50:51] | darkstarbyte: | corrupted streams are abundant over the air, in which case vlc or something might be needed to watch some recordings. |
| [18:51:10] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, maybe a better question is, why do YOU want to dick with the recordings |
| [18:51:14] | darkstarbyte: | wagnerrp, I see where your going with this. |
| [18:51:18] | wagnerrp: | yes, so you write a SCRIPT that runs through the JOBQUEUE and grabs all the necessary information to deal with the files |
| [18:51:35] | wagnerrp: | that includes polling information from the database, AND inserting new data back into the database |
| [18:51:52] | wagnerrp: | you cant just mess with the file directly and expect everything to go as planned |
| [18:51:53] | tgm4883: | or better yet, write something that queries the API and using that to playback recordings in VLC |
| [18:52:15] | wagnerrp: | oh, i was assuming he meant using vlc or other utility to "clean up" the file |
| [18:52:23] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, could be, IDK |
| [18:52:26] | wagnerrp: | in batch, so it could be used in mythfrontend |
| [18:52:26] | tgm4883: | I read it differently |
| [18:52:58] | wagnerrp: | besides, what are you doing using EIT data in the US anyway? |
| [18:53:06] | wagnerrp: | of course its going to be complete garbage |
| [18:53:33] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, +1 on the garbage statement |
| [18:53:37] | darkstarbyte: | Why is it not complete garbage in other countries? |
| [18:53:53] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, because other countries care enough to do it correctly? |
| [18:53:58] | tgm4883: | s/countries/tv providers/ |
| [18:54:19] | tgm4883: | i'd imagine it's a politics thing |
| [18:55:16] | wagnerrp: | if they provide good EIT data, it diminishes the utility of companies like tribune and gemstar, meaning those companies have no reason to existing and pay them for scheduling data |
| [18:55:26] | darkstarbyte: | corrupt EIT might mean corrupt politics? |
| [18:55:46] | tgm4883: | ? |
| [18:56:18] | tgm4883: | let see, how do I explain this to a 24 year old |
| [18:56:31] | tgm4883: | yes |
| [18:56:37] | darkstarbyte: | There is always corruption in government and maybe more in the US with the fields involving over the air broadcasts. |
| [18:56:50] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, have you ever heard of office politics? |
| [18:57:00] | darkstarbyte: | yes |
| [18:57:13] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, when is the last time you voted for a president of your office? |
| [18:57:39] | darkstarbyte: | Not before. |
| [18:57:47] | tgm4883: | or possibly, "politics" isn't strictly related to government |
| [18:57:53] | wagnerrp: | it has nothing to do with corruption |
| [18:58:03] | darkstarbyte: | I was trying to be funny. |
| [18:58:12] | wagnerrp: | it has to do with the general public having no need for it, and thus the stations having no reason to provide it for free |
| [18:58:13] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, "trying" being the key word |
| [18:58:28] | wagnerrp: | so they only provide the bare minimum as required by the FCC |
| [18:59:09] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, oh wait. I get it now. You were trying to be funny suggesting that mythtv use show names instead of unique identifiers for recordings filenames. Yes, that is funny |
| [18:59:33] | darkstarbyte: | I suppose now it would seem that way |
| [18:59:44] | darkstarbyte: | how about |
| [18:59:53] | darkstarbyte: | show name – timestamp? |
| [19:00:08] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, that doesn't benefit the user, so whats the point? |
| [19:00:28] | darkstarbyte: | It benefits some people. |
| [19:00:57] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, ok, what happens if I record the same show at the same time on two different tuners? |
| [19:01:19] | darkstarbyte: | You have a good point |
| [19:01:46] | darkstarbyte: | I am sure mythtv has a way of preventing you from such things. |
| [19:02:11] | tgm4883: | like putting the channel ID in there? |
| [19:02:40] | darkstarbyte: | Better yet |
| [19:02:49] | darkstarbyte: | show name – current naming system. |
| [19:03:04] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, why? |
| [19:03:36] | darkstarbyte: | I thought it would have been an interesting feature. |
| [19:03:54] | tgm4883: | an interesting feature? |
| [19:04:02] | tgm4883: | you are dicking with internal filenames |
| [19:04:19] | tgm4883: | how does that make for an interesting feature? |
| [19:05:15] | darkstarbyte: | Ok, I suppose only people who know more about what they are doing than me, should be messing with those files. |
| [19:05:16] | johnf1911: | no suggestions for lirc_zilog not transmitting on ubuntu 12.04 (as described above) ? |
| [19:05:32] | tgm4883: | I suppose it might be an interesting feature for the mythtv developers that write the backend software |
| [19:05:56] | tgm4883: | darkstarbyte, that is correct, users shouldn't be messing with those files under normal circumstances |
| [19:06:10] | tgm4883: | it should be very rare that you have to manually touch those files |
| [19:06:47] | tgm4883: | johnf1911, sorry, I don't use my HDPVR anymore, and when I did, I didn't use the blaster |
| [19:07:25] | johnf1911: | thanks tgm4883, I did have it working with 10.04 and the old patches that used to be required |
| [19:08:07] | [R]: | johnf1911: what does dmesg say about the hdpvr and lirc |
| [19:08:08] | Sharky-SLEEP is now known as Sharky-AFK | |
| [19:09:40] | johnf1911: | it all seems normal, I'll give you the logs in a moment |
| [19:11:40] | darkstarbyte: | Also do to a driver bug I can't watch recordings in mythtv. |
| [19:12:37] | darkstarbyte: | 1 Million lines of code reminds me of vista for some reason. |
| [19:12:40] | johnf1911: | [R]: http://pastie.org/4647203 |
| [19:13:01] | [R]: | vista has a little more then a million... |
| [19:13:13] | johnf1911: | seems pretty normal, explicit reference to IR Tx in there too |
| [19:13:32] | [R]: | weird, i havent sued the blaster in forever since is sucks oh so much |
| [19:13:34] | [R]: | but it looks fine |
| [19:13:36] | darkstarbyte: | Microsoft does deceive. |
| [19:13:45] | johnf1911: | lol, it worked well enough for me |
| [19:13:57] | [R]: | blasting as a whole |
| [19:14:01] | [R]: | is garbage |
| [19:14:01] | johnf1911: | though I had to recompile the modules every time I upgraded the kernel, which was quite annoying |
| [19:14:05] | johnf1911: | ah, well yes |
| [19:14:05] | johnf1911: | :) |
| [19:14:15] | darkstarbyte: | Sorry between 35 and 50 million lines of crappy code. |
| [19:14:53] | darkstarbyte: | Well not everything is crap |
| [19:15:12] | darkstarbyte: | Just the top level stuff and exploitable code. |
| [19:23:19] | darkstarbyte: | Where was a bulk of this code focused at? (hardware, interfacing...) |
| [19:23:26] | darkstarbyte: | mythtv |
| [19:23:30] | darkstarbyte: | not windows. |
| [19:23:58] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [19:24:25] | darkstarbyte: | 1 millions lines of code, most of it must be focused at something specific. |
| [19:24:36] | Beirdo: | there isn't 35–50M lines of code in MythTV, and if it's so crappy, why don't you fix it? |
| [19:24:42] | darkstarbyte: | not what I mean |
| [19:24:55] | darkstarbyte: | I was referring to MS windows. |
| [19:25:25] | darkstarbyte: | They write way to much code for what they are doing, and half ass it at best. |
| [19:25:57] | tgm4883: | I don't follow the logic for darkstarbyte> 1 millions lines of code, most of it must be focused at something specific. |
| [19:26:28] | ** Beirdo thinks it's time for a "do not feed the troll" sign in the channel ** | |
| [19:26:39] | darkstarbyte: | Just what I am saying, is a bulk of the code focused at interfacing with the hard ware, bureaucracy. |
| [19:26:47] | darkstarbyte: | ... |
| [19:27:46] | darkstarbyte: | Or just everything was built from scratch, which would make me understand all of the lines of code. |
| [19:28:07] | Beirdo: | just what does any of this have to do with MythTV? |
| [19:28:21] | darkstarbyte: | Oh, sorry. I was just wondering. |
| [19:30:44] | EvilGuru: | darkstarbyte: If it makes any difference EIT data is reasonably poor here as well in the UK |
| [19:31:18] | darkstarbyte: | hmm |
| [19:32:17] | EvilGuru: | Almost everyone I know w/Mythtv uses the free RT XMLTV provider |
| [19:33:30] | darkstarbyte: | I am thinking if some company had to rewrite mythtv, they would find it to perhaps be a multimillion dollar project. |
| [19:33:36] | johnf1911: | schedulesdirect does the job well for me at moderate cost |
| [19:34:11] | johnf1911: | reviewing the lirc_zilog.c file suggests that it should transmit and is much newer than what I used before |
| [19:34:13] | EvilGuru: | If the RT service ever goes way I would be /happy/ to pay for a service like SD |
| [19:34:42] | johnf1911: | wonder if the issue is with lirc itself and not the kernel module |
| [19:34:44] | johnf1911: | :( |
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| [19:59:47] | fugg: | anyone around who get a proper lock on DVBS/astra1–19.2E/Anixe SD ? |
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| [21:15:41] | Beirdo: | just what does any of this have to do with MythTV?:q |
| [21:15:45] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [21:15:55] | Beirdo: | stupid computer. |
| [21:15:59] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [21:16:13] | Beirdo: | I was in the wrong window |
| [21:16:24] | Beirdo: | and hit up-arrow, then :q |
| [21:16:29] | wagnerrp: | i dont see chatter in any window |
| [21:16:33] | Beirdo: | funny, vi didn't quit |
| [21:17:03] | wagnerrp: | oh... nevermind... |
| [21:17:21] | Beirdo: | thinking of replacing a PIC18 core with 8051 |
| [21:17:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:17:57] | wagnerrp: | isnt that an intel chip? |
| [21:18:09] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:18:23] | Beirdo: | using a softcore |
| [21:19:44] | wagnerrp: | softcore electronics? the chip is taking off its packaging shield! look at the traces on that one! |
| [21:20:11] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [21:20:23] | Beirdo: | in an FPGA, silly :) |
| [21:20:54] | wagnerrp: | emulating an 8051 with your FPGA? why not just get an 8051? |
| [21:21:44] | Beirdo: | because I don't want to put a pile of chips on a board when I can do it all in an FPGA |
| [21:21:52] | Beirdo: | and cheapet |
| [21:21:57] | Beirdo: | cheaper, ratehr |
| [21:22:02] | wagnerrp: | oh, several chips, including an 8051 |
| [21:22:03] | Beirdo: | dangit, i can't type |
| [21:22:09] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:22:12] | wagnerrp: | or select windows, apparently |
| [21:22:22] | Beirdo: | SPDIF rx/tx, UART... |
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| [21:26:31] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you've got a mac of some sort, right? |
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| [21:34:09] | wagnerrp: | well i botched that bit of trac up |
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| [22:07:16] | lautriv: | anyone using astra 19.2 (europe) around ? |
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| [22:21:22] | lautriv: | how can i check tuning/settings on a specific DVB channel ? edit transponder in setup doesn't work and mythweb has no page thisfor. |
| [22:25:00] | LonEagle: | the mythweb channel editor doesn't have what you need? I don't know DVB at all. |
| [22:25:26] | wagnerrp: | mythweb only offers access to the channels |
| [22:25:35] | wagnerrp: | but DVB contains other tuning data in a separate table |
| [22:26:14] | LonEagle: | ah. i presume that renders the frontend channel editor useless as well |
| [22:26:44] | wagnerrp: | neither are useless, they just dont have control over the physical channel |
| [22:26:50] | wagnerrp: | only over their specific stream |
| [22:27:31] | lautriv: | LonEagle, mythweb is only about color-correction and EIT, the only field "freq-id" is blank on all channels |
| [22:28:57] | lautriv: | and using "edit transponer" in the backend-setup is a blank page without any button/field beside cancel and finish. |
| [22:48:10] | LonEagle: | how about "e" in the mythtv-setup channel editor |
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| [22:56:13] | lautriv: | LonEagle, mythweb is only about color-correction and EIT, the only field "freq-id" is blank on all channels |
| [22:57:02] | lautriv: | LonEagle, sorry useless repeat....e gives me only program-number, name and such....nothing for transponder. |
| [22:58:53] | lautriv: | i have another channel on the same transponder which works smooth, must be some *PID fail. |
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| [22:59:34] | mythnew: | hey folks, i just stumbled on mythubuntu today and installed it on a desktop. what is it for exactly? just recording TV, like a DVR? I didn't find functionality like a pandora player, or netflix player, etc... |
| [23:00:06] | wagnerrp: | netflix simply isnt possible, as netflix uses silverlight, and silverlight is not available on linux |
| [23:00:25] | wagnerrp: | pandora... not sure, but no one has programmed anything yet |
| [23:01:06] | mythnew: | is it mostly built as a dvr? I dont have cable I usually just stream most of my stuff |
| [23:01:31] | wagnerrp: | yes, cable/satellite/terrestrial... |
| [23:03:57] | LonEagle: | lautriv: sorry, i don't know much about dvb. |
| [23:04:40] | LonEagle: | not sure why the US decided to roll its own system, but they did. |
| [23:04:53] | mythnew: | if i have a backend system and multiple front end systems. say one frontend on a 1080p tv, and another front-end on some tiny small tv. can the backend server transcode an hd video down to a usable size for the smaller tv? or would i need two copies of the video |
| [23:05:24] | wagnerrp: | your frontend would scale the video as necessary |
| [23:05:52] | wagnerrp: | graphics cards can run at multiple resolutions |
| [23:05:52] | LonEagle: | lautriv: are you comfortable working in databases at all? |
| [23:06:33] | mythnew: | ok, can i setup myth to hit remote locations not on backend servers? like say i wanted to hook it up to stream music from my imac? |
| [23:06:43] | mythnew: | or would i need to replicate that data to a backend server |
| [23:07:01] | wagnerrp: | ideally, mythtv is the central store for your media library |
| [23:07:07] | wagnerrp: | but the frontend does have support for airplay |
| [23:07:22] | mythnew: | ok, so i wouldn't want the backend on just some crummy hardware. raid at least |
| [23:07:33] | mythnew: | i just installed it to test on a single drive desktop |
| [23:07:37] | wagnerrp: | that depends on what you intend it for |
| [23:07:44] | wagnerrp: | RAID is not ideal for all workloads |
| [23:07:46] | LonEagle: | i run just fine with a single drive machine |
| [23:07:50] | mythnew: | well if it were to act as a centralized media storage |
| [23:07:56] | LonEagle: | but all i do is record & play OTA tv |
| [23:08:12] | wagnerrp: | for archival storage, RAID6 or similar would be good |
| [23:08:30] | wagnerrp: | if you're recording a lot, any form of RAID is going to be detrimental to performance |
| [23:08:31] | mythnew: | can it hit CIFS for a remote library? |
| [23:08:35] | mythnew: | i've got a raid1 in my current desktop |
| [23:08:48] | mythnew: | where i store pics/music |
| [23:08:50] | wagnerrp: | mythtv itself cannot use CIFS |
| [23:08:59] | mythnew: | i could prolly move my videos to a single drive hdd in the myth box |
| [23:09:09] | wagnerrp: | but theres nothing stopping you from mounting a remote CIFS share to the local filesystem, and accessing it with mythtv... besides sanity of course |
| [23:09:09] | mythnew: | ok, so i'd set that up in ubuntu and mount it |
| [23:09:34] | LonEagle: | lautriv: i take it you have seen http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Dvb-apps |
| [23:10:28] | wagnerrp: | desktops are generally systems that get turned off or put in standby, rather than left on all the time |
| [23:10:44] | wagnerrp: | mythtv expects everything it may want to access to be under its control |
| [23:10:59] | wagnerrp: | meaning machines that are always on, or machines that mythtv has the ability to turn on as needed |
| [23:11:42] | wagnerrp: | if you have a server, it only makes sense to put all your storage on the server, and let the various desktops and other clients function independently of each other |
| [23:12:38] | mythnew: | ok, thanks for all this info |
| [23:13:14] | mythnew: | if i have music on my desktop now, and setup a backend/frontend myth box..i'm just thinking i'd want to keep from dup'ing my data |
| [23:13:39] | mythnew: | i guess i'd have to either mount it remotely via windows (but i dont see samba in myth) or have a cifs mount from myh to windows |
| [23:13:48] | wagnerrp: | ideally, the myth box would just be a general purpose server, that also runs mythtv |
| [23:14:18] | wagnerrp: | put all your data on it, mount it on your other machines for whatever other uses you want |
| [23:14:29] | lautriv: | LonEagle, i know them, but makes no sense to use it because i have to check/alter the state in mythtv which is used to mysql and flaky about changes. the given option to edit a transponder should just work :( |
| [23:14:42] | wagnerrp: | that way only the one server needs to be up for anything to be available |
| [23:14:54] | wagnerrp: | rather than several machines throughout your house storing smaller amounts of data |
| [23:15:04] | mythnew: | do you know if any ol tuner card works with most cable companies? for example time warner brings a digital tv tuner to my area. |
| [23:16:04] | wagnerrp: | any analog tuner card is going to be of no use, since hardly anyone does analog cable these days |
| [23:16:26] | wagnerrp: | digital tuner cards are really only going to be of value for broadcast digital, since everything else is typically encrypted |
| [23:17:06] | wagnerrp: | cablecard tuners can capture everything... but since mythtv is not a cablelabs licensed application (as we are open source and cannot uphold drm), we are only allowed the DRM-free "copy freely" content |
| [23:17:21] | wagnerrp: | on comcast and fios, that's just about everything but the premium channels |
| [23:17:38] | wagnerrp: | on time warner, that's typically nothing... and youre stuck back with a digital tuner and the local broadcast channels |
| [23:17:54] | wagnerrp: | the only alternative for someone like time warner is analog capture off their cable boxes |
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| [23:19:45] | mythnew: | hmm well that is pretty crappy |
| [23:20:15] | LonEagle: | lautriv: so you know that your card can pull the channel you want, it's just that myth isn't manipulating it correctly? |
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| [23:20:29] | wagnerrp: | nothing we can do about it |
| [23:20:30] | LonEagle: | mythnew: yup, this has been playing out for years. |
| [23:20:58] | wagnerrp: | we couldnt support cablelabs DRM even if we wanted to, since it would be trivial for anyone to simply compile out the parts that protect the content |
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| [23:21:21] | fafa88_: | wagnerrp: lol, stupids DRM. |
| [23:21:25] | wagnerrp: | which would only leave reverse engineering the encryption scheme... which would of course land us in jail |
| [23:21:44] | wagnerrp: | gotta love the DMCA |
| [23:22:06] | fafa88_: | wagnerrp: created by men in suits smoking crack. |
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| [23:23:55] | lautriv: | LonEagle, exactly. on the same transponder is a chan. which works fine so it has to be a detail to select a proper stream. |
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| [23:24:25] | fafa88_: | in head, you guys know issues where the frontend would crash when the hdhomerun's cable signal is interrupted? like start livetv, pull coax, mythfrontend freaks out and crashes (max buffering). |
| [23:24:39] | lautriv: | LonEagle, i get a "partial lock" and then a timeout. |
| [23:25:50] | LonEagle: | fafa88_: i have never had good luck with my hdhomerun when the signal is not good. |
| [23:26:17] | LonEagle: | lautriv: yeah sounds like you are on the right track. |
| [23:27:07] | fafa88_: | It worked for the longest time, then last week, it started croaking out. most frustrating thing ever. Although I knew guys who had tuners going bad in the hdhomerun. |
| [23:27:43] | lautriv: | LonEagle, also i found someone using VDR and can view this chan. |
| [23:30:22] | fafa88_: | The good thing that came out of my frustrations is that I am now on the head (0.26), helping test that :) |
| [23:32:09] | LonEagle: | fafa88_: i've never been amused with the quality of my HDHR tuner. |
| [23:33:26] | fafa88_: | LonEagle: what is particular are you not satisfied with? I have been using them for years. First a HDHomerun, then most recently a HDHomerun prime (with cablecard). |
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| [23:34:08] | fafa88_: | i gotta get a cable guy over to check my signal levels though, I just hate dealing with the cable guy. |
| [23:34:58] | wagnerrp: | especially when he becomes a crazed leach friend who forces you to go to medieval times |
| [23:38:01] | LonEagle: | fafa88_: i think i have the first gen HDHR, i've had it for years. |
| [23:38:18] | LonEagle: | fafa88_: it's less sensitive of a tuner than my panasonic plasma |
| [23:38:39] | LonEagle: | fafa88_: i'm going to fix all my problems by putting an antenna on the roof, though. that will eliminate all multipath. |
| [23:40:41] | LonEagle: | and i won't have to have to reserve a choice window spot for my antenna for good reception. |
| [23:41:18] | lautriv: | can myth export a channels.conf from DB ? |
| [23:42:21] | fafa88_: | i should see how many channels I get with an antenna. |
| [23:44:26] | fafa88_: | I retired my old HDHR when I got the prime. |
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