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Friday, August 24th, 2012, 00:02 UTC
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[00:57:42] darkstarbyte: Is there a way to set a time offset on certain channels?
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[00:58:29] darkstarbyte: One channel I get most of my stuff from is always off by 30 seconds which I think confuses that commercial scrapper.
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[03:34:59] sphery: darkstarbyte: no, we assume that the listings are good... You can create "this channel" rules for shows that air on that channel and add in a 1min start early. Note, though, that whether it starts on time or not will have no effect on the commercial detection.
[03:36:02] sphery: darkstarbyte: and if you some of the shows you record on that channel need "any channel" rules, you can create both--first create a "this channel" rule for an episode on that channel, then find an episode on another channel and create an "any channel" rule without the start early, and all will work properly
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[06:50:29] lucas^: thanks wagnerrp for the shiny new Tmdb3 wrapper, it works great and migration was a breeze!
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[07:00:47] lucas^: file caching doesn't work on Windows for some odd reason (permission denied exception), but the null cache engine works great, and I'm not making too many repeated queries anyway
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[07:55:49] Shadow__X: I just added an empty drive to storage groups amd mythweb is reporting that there is 95,944MB used on the drive. Whats going on there?
[08:02:24] Shadow__X: ah sorry guys. I see now that its due to reserved space that mkfs takes by default. Is it ok to reduce that amount?
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[08:07:55] lucas^: mkfs takes up 95GB in reserved space?
[08:09:03] Shadow__X: its a 2tb drive
[08:10:21] Shadow__X: 1800gb * .05 =90 which seems to be whats going on
[08:12:01] partoj: Shadow__X: If it's not a system disk I think it's safe to lower the amount.
[08:13:11] lucas^: yeah, I'm not sure how ext4 or whatever you're using works, but 95gb on any drive is crazy high
[08:14:23] Shadow__X: yeah i just checked with tune2fs -l and its about 93.15gb of reserved space
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[12:36:41] akovia: hi, I am having troubles with a script to update my videos db with thumbs. I am using this script http://www.mythtvtalk.com/thumbnails-name-8006/ but it doesn't seem to do anything. Is this outdated or is there any alternative?
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[12:39:49] akovia: My video thumbs are already created and are in the same folder as their videos with the same name but a .png extension.
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[13:42:23] wagnerrp: lucas^: https://github.com/wagnerrp/pytmdb3/issues/5
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[16:13:31] akovia: could anyone tell me if the following mysql command is valid if all the substitutions are correct?
[16:13:40] akovia: mysql "${DB}" -u "${USER}" -h "${HOST}" -p"${PASSWORD}" \
[16:13:40] akovia: -e "SELECT intid,filename FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile='No Cover';" -BN
[16:14:10] jm|laptop: is filename reserved in mysql?
[16:14:29] akovia: unfortunately I have no idea
[16:14:30] clever: i dont believe it is
[16:14:37] jm|laptop: you could tick it
[16:14:53] clever: `` doesnt work right inside "", so you would need to swap the quotes
[16:15:32] akovia: I'm trying to trouble shoot a script I found on mythtalk.com http://www.mythtvtalk.com/thumbnails-name-8006/
[16:15:42] jm|laptop: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/reserved-words.html suggests it's not reserved, anyway
[16:16:35] akovia: so put the single tick on the outside?
[16:17:01] clever: its not reserved, so that wont have any effect
[16:17:39] akovia: k
[16:21:03] akovia: hmm, I can kinda troubleshoot bash scripts but I'm lost with mysql. Any advise where to turn?
[16:21:23] clever: akovia: run that part manualy and see what it does (with the variables set properly)
[16:22:15] akovia: i ran that command in mysql and I just get a blank prompt
[16:22:26] clever: did you include the -e?
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[16:22:41] akovia: lemme try again, sec
[16:23:18] akovia: yes, just blank prompt >
[16:23:31] clever: that would be the \ at the end, waiting for the second half of the command
[16:23:39] akovia: mysql mythconverg -u mythtv -h localhost -pmypw -e 'SELECT intid,filename FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile='\''No Cover'\''; -BN
[16:23:39] clever: normal bash stuff
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[16:24:05] clever: change the quotes back to what they where
[16:27:37] akovia: I haven't changed them, can you show me on what I posted above?
[16:30:38] akovia: ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' to database 'mythconverge'
[16:31:09] akovia: from...mysql mythconverge -u mythtv -h localhost -pmypw -e "SELECT intid,filename FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile='No Cover';" -BN
[16:31:52] akovia: oops, sec
[16:32:37] akovia: mispelled db, with the correct spelling it just spits back out to a bash prompt
[16:36:02] akovia: the script was posted in 2008, I wonder if it's something to do with newer version of mysql
[16:41:24] akovia: if I do $mysql mythconverge -u mythtv -h localhost -pmypw I get a mysql>
[16:41:55] akovia: should I be able to try the rest of the command from there?
[16:46:47] neufeld_AFK: akovia: yes. Try it without the qualifier. That is, skip everything from WHERE onwards, and remember to put in the semicolon.
[16:47:32] neufeld_AFK: Doing this: ''select intid,filename from videometadata;'' at the mysql command line gives me many rows of output.
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[16:47:57] akovia: yes, same
[16:48:05] akovia: 6129 rows
[16:48:38] neufeld: Do it again, but now say select coverfile from videometadata; See what the potential strings are
[16:48:52] neufeld: I don't have any with the text 'No Cover'
[16:49:08] neufeld: I do have many with a blank field there
[16:49:59] akovia: it runs but returns 6129 empty rows
[16:50:24] neufeld: So, you should be looking for an empty string, I suspect, rather than for "No Cover"
[16:50:52] akovia: hmm
[16:50:58] neufeld: so, your WHERE clause would be "WHERE coverfile='';
[16:51:09] akovia: is there a gui tool to look at the db?
[16:51:30] wagnerrp: akovia: why arent you just running this from directly within mysql?
[16:51:39] akovia: what would be the opposite command so i could see ones with covers?
[16:51:41] wagnerrp: why are you doing individual queries on the command line?
[16:52:07] neufeld: akovia: I'm not aware of a GUI for investigating mysql databases, but I'm sure there are some out there.
[16:52:08] akovia: trying to troubleshoot bash script i found wagnerrp
[16:52:27] wagnerrp: well there's the first problem
[16:52:36] wagnerrp: trying to access a mysql database through bash
[16:52:51] akovia: lol i agree wagnerrp, but i'm not clever enough to write one from acratch
[16:52:59] wagnerrp: what does the script do?
[16:53:16] akovia: script is here if interested http://www.mythtvtalk.com/thumbnails-name-8006/
[16:54:07] neufeld: The converse of coverfile='' in SQL is coverfile != ''.
[16:55:30] akovia: I cobbled this script together to create my thumbnails http://pastebin.com/MfRbXu6X and am trying to use that other script to apply them to the db wagnerrp
[16:58:01] akovia: hmm, I can't seem to get it right neufeld I tried this...
[16:58:19] akovia: SELECT coverfile FROM videometadata WHERE coverfile!='';
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[16:58:52] wagnerrp: these are home videos, things that wouldnt have a cover file through one of the metadata sites?
[16:59:00] neufeld: akovia: works for me. I get 90 rows back, those that have downloaded cover art
[16:59:27] neufeld: akovia: are you running it at the mysql> prompt, or from a shell script? The '!' character can cause pain in shells.
[16:59:49] akovia: i got it now, was my mistype
[17:00:41] akovia: wagnerrp, these are various type of videos from home movies, anime, etc.. stuff that's not able to get meta from the web
[17:02:10] akovia: I might be able to get what I need with this now, will play around with it again. Thanks for the help!!
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[17:26:24] wagnerrp: akovia: was away for a bit
[17:26:40] wagnerrp: basically, you want to scan for anything that does not have a cover file, and produce a cover file?
[17:27:17] akovia: i already have my covers and they are in the same dirs as the videos with the exact name but a .png ext
[17:27:30] wagnerrp: oh, well thats dead simple then
[17:27:52] akovia: i wish it was for me
[17:36:34] wagnerrp: takes me a bit, i dont recall all the structures im using off the top of my head
[17:47:23] wagnerrp: akovia: try http://pastebin.com/ifUydKd2
[17:50:27] akovia: wagnerrp, do i need to set any variables?
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[17:50:50] wagnerrp: shouldnt
[17:51:01] wagnerrp: note, that is untested, it may error on some things
[17:51:28] akovia: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:51:28] akovia: File "/home/akovia/bin/vidthums.py", line 33, in <module>
[17:51:28] akovia: for vid in [v for v in Videos.getAllEntries() if v.coverfile in ('', 'No Cover')]:
[17:51:28] akovia: NameError: name 'Videos' is not defined
[17:51:40] wagnerrp: make that 'Video', no 's'
[17:53:04] akovia: it scrolled every vid in my library with the message "Could not find"....then
[17:53:14] akovia: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:53:14] akovia: File "/home/akovia/bin/vidthums.py", line 39, in <module>
[17:53:14] akovia: print "Could not find {0}".format(vid.filename)
[17:53:14] akovia: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xb4' in position 81: ordinal not in range(128)
[17:53:23] wagnerrp: bah
[17:53:38] akovia: that bad?
[17:53:39] wagnerrp: yeah, im not up to fixing unicode issues right now
[17:53:47] akovia: no worries
[17:53:49] wagnerrp: Python 2.x and unicode do not mix well
[17:53:57] akovia: oic
[17:54:10] akovia: still appreciate the help
[17:54:53] akovia: fyi, i definately have some odd characters in my path and filenames like {}[] etc..
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[17:55:28] wagnerrp: if you named them properly, chances are mythtv would pick up some data for them
[17:56:13] akovia: I'm headed out of town for the weekend anyway, will revisit it on Sunday.. Thanks again!
[17:57:26] wagnerrp: seems thetvdb.com has at least some anime
[17:57:53] wagnerrp: i wonder if anidb has an API of any sort
[17:58:08] akovia: yes they do but it's beyond me
[17:58:29] akovia: that is truely the only real db that could fill my mets
[17:58:34] akovia: meta
[17:58:53] wagnerrp: depending on the format, ive got a framework that could make a functional grabber in maybe an hor
[17:58:56] wagnerrp: hour
[18:00:11] wagnerrp: udp client? why the hell would they be using udp?
[18:00:15] akovia: looking for the link
[18:01:50] akovia: http://wiki.anidb.info/w/API
[18:02:39] wagnerrp: that makes no sense... why would they want to use UDP
[18:02:53] akovia: lol, got me
[18:03:18] akovia: guess that's why no one has ever bothered with it =/
[18:03:55] akovia: Their DB is second to none, but I guess you have to jump through hoops to use it
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[18:07:16] wagnerrp: that reminds me, i need to get tmdb3.py cleaned up and set as the primary for 0.26
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[18:16:48] akovia: well time to get packed. Thanks again for everything.
[18:16:54] caelor: a question regarding 0.26 beta – I had to rebuild seektables for all previous recordings. Is that expected?
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[18:17:20] caelor: I have some recollection of it being mentioned during 0.26 development, but didn't see anything about it on the release notes as being required
[18:17:42] tgm4883: caelor, I didn't have to rebuild any seek tables
[18:18:32] caelor: ok. I don't know for definite that all recordings needed seektable rebuilds, but my wife reported that every recording she tried to edit cutlists on came up with a "no seektable" error
[18:19:28] caelor: tgm4883, correct me if I'm wrong, are you one of the Ubuntu/Mythbuntu maintainers?
[18:19:30] neufeld: I had to rebuild the seek tables between 0.24 and 0.25, because the reported durations of the recordings made prior to 0.25 were all well off, high by a factor of 4 to 10.
[18:20:23] caelor: it's probably good practice to do it when upgrading releases then. Something to add to my list of upgrade tasks... :)
[18:21:39] caelor: thanks guys
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[18:38:51] wagnerrp: caelor: correct
[18:43:05] sphery: caelor: you don't have to rebuild seektables unless you used a broken-for-a-short-time revision of unstable/development code to upgrade the database
[18:43:40] sphery: caelor: it will automatically convert your old seektables to the new format stuff... that said, it sounds like somehow you lost yours, so rebuilding was the proper solution
[18:44:04] wagnerrp: we have a new format?
[18:44:18] wagnerrp: sounds like something i need to fix in the bindings
[18:44:22] sphery: but there's no need for distros to do it for you--at least not if they properly load the time zone data into mysql
[18:44:25] sphery: wagnerrp: new time format
[18:44:41] wagnerrp: why would the timezone stuff have anything to do with the seektables
[18:44:45] sphery: i.e. the "all sane programs use UTC, so it would fix every single problem with mythtv"
[18:44:52] wagnerrp: or are you just talking about them indexing off chanid/starttime?
[18:44:57] sphery: yes
[18:45:01] sphery: chanid/starttime
[18:45:28] sphery: there was about a 24hr period right after the conversion where we were missing code to convert the seektable and markup times to utc
[18:46:02] sphery: if you used one of those revisions to upgrade, MythTV's housekeeper ran after that, you'd lose your seektable data
[18:46:09] sphery: but normally, you won't
[18:46:34] wagnerrp: right, the daily cleanup for orphaned content
[18:46:53] sphery: however, since mythtv won't upgrade the db if you don't have time zone data in the db, if distros do that, you'll be able to upgrade with current (working) upgrade code and all is good
[18:46:56] tgm4883: caelor, yea
[18:46:58] tgm4883: caelor, sorry for the delay, been doing some monitor switching
[18:47:47] tgm4883: caelor, I don't use the cutlist editor
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[18:56:15] wagnerrp: eew
[18:56:22] wagnerrp: crawly thing on my desk
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[21:22:34] joltman: so i just asked a question on the mailing list, but was curious if anyone knew the answer...when we're watching LiveTV, are we watching a stream directly from the tuner (HDHR/Prime, PVR-x50, HDPVR) or are we watching a "recording" (buffer) that's around 1–3 seconds behind realtime broadcast?
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[21:28:47] tgm4883: joltman, a recording
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[21:48:39] joltman: tgm4883: I'm confused. if we're watching a recording, why are there so many issues with watching LiveTV? I'm assuming we're using the same video player to watch LiveTV as we are for a recording. Yet recordings don't seem to suffer from the same LiveTV issues?
[21:49:20] tgm4883: joltman, IDK what the LiveTV issues are, I'm in the "we should get rid of Live TV completely" camp
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[21:49:53] tgm4883: I'm pretty sure they'll make a movie about me and sphery
[21:49:55] joltman: interesting. I disagree, and think LiveTV should be available. I don't use it often, but when I do, it's a nice to have.
[21:50:00] tgm4883: tgm4883 and sphery vs the world
[21:50:04] joltman: lol
[21:50:25] Jay2k1: "i don't always use livetv, but when i do, it has issues" heh
[21:50:30] lucas^: issues with liveTV? what issues?
[21:50:30] joltman: this is true
[21:50:32] uglyoldbob: some things work better when watched when they are broadcast (news, weather are two things i think of)
[21:50:35] Jay2k1: </9gag>
[21:50:47] Jay2k1: sports events
[21:50:52] Jay2k1: like, soccer
[21:50:57] joltman: when I switch channels in LiveTV, it can sometimes cause the frontend to crash
[21:51:07] lucas^: the frontend's an unstable POS
[21:51:10] lucas^: it always crashes, so what
[21:51:12] joltman: i haven't tried it since I've moved to 0.25 though
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[21:51:28] joltman: maybe this weekend
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[21:51:58] Jay2k1: guys, i could seriously use some help with lirc
[21:52:16] Jay2k1: cat /dev/input/event2 and check for output: check
[21:52:26] Jay2k1: use evtest on it: check
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[21:52:38] Jay2k1: learn remote with irrecord: check
[21:52:53] Jay2k1: saved as lircd.conf in /etc and /etc/lirc
[21:52:59] Jay2k1: still, irw shows nothing
[21:53:31] Jay2k1: also, when using socat, nothing shows up
[21:53:37] Jay2k1: what am i missing?
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[21:57:08] tgm4883: Jay2k1, just because you are recording something, doesn't mean you can't watch it "live"
[21:57:41] joltman: is there a "live" button somewhere that I'm not configuring? (Like TiVo's Live button?)
[21:57:52] ** awalls almost exclusively uses live TV **
[21:58:14] Jay2k1: assuming you have pay tv with a single smartcard, you'll wanna put that in the box instead of the tv so you can record pay tv channels
[21:58:36] Jay2k1: so if you wanna watch live tv on paid channels, you'll use mythtv
[21:58:55] tgm4883: joltman, IDK if there is one, I'm assuming not, although perhaps there is a skip to end button
[21:59:05] Jay2k1: because of the buffer it's never really "live" anyway
[21:59:19] tgm4883: Jay2k1, because of the FCC, it's never really live anyway
[21:59:26] joltman: yes well, i'm just going by what I know of how the TiVo operates...
[21:59:31] lucas^: don't TiVo units have a slight timeshift too?
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[21:59:33] Jay2k1: i think the best i ever got was 6 seconds
[21:59:54] joltman: there's a Live button, and it will skip to the absolute latest of the current channel
[22:00:09] lucas^: whining about 5 seconds of latency doesn't really make much sense unless you're trying to play a video game or something
[22:00:15] Jay2k1: it kinda sucks when you watch soccer world championships in the summer with open windows and all your neighbors start cheering and a few seconds later you see how your team scores a goal
[22:00:21] tgm4883: Jay2k1, 6 seconds, plus the transmission time from the sporting event though all the cable operator stuff to your house
[22:00:23] lucas^: or if you're on Skype with some guy watching hockey or something
[22:00:28] joltman: yeah, i always assumed LiveTV was about 1–6 seconds lagging of broadcast
[22:00:30] joltman: it's not a big deal
[22:00:48] Jay2k1: but that's not myth's mentality and that's ok for me
[22:01:07] lucas^: W7MC does the same thing, although it's a shorter delay
[22:01:12] tgm4883: FTFY <Jay2k1> it kinda sucks when you watch soccer
[22:01:14] Jay2k1: if i really need "live" in terms of "not more delay than other people have" then i'll just watch directly on tv
[22:01:30] Jay2k1: s/soccer/any popular kind of sport
[22:01:39] Jay2k1: if you're in the US, take superbowl
[22:01:48] Jay2k1: or big baseball events, whatever
[22:02:15] tgm4883: Jay2k1, I watch all sporting events after at least a 15 minute delay
[22:02:22] sphery: but there's no possible way you can get closer to live in Live TV than when watching a recording in progress... so the "liveness" is no different whether you're in "I refuse to tell you, MythTV, what's important to me" Live TV or "please record this for me because it's important" scheduled recording played back while it's recording
[22:02:32] tgm4883: More often than not, it's more like an hour delay
[22:03:00] sphery: i.e. playback of Live TV or in-progress recording uses the same code to keep from going past the end/keep the right distance from current
[22:03:22] tgm4883: With my delay, it mean A) other people can cheer and I have no idea when/why they are cheering in terms of game time, and B) I can watch the same game as they do in 1/2 the time
[22:03:48] Jay2k1: you mean because of the ads?
[22:04:23] tgm4883: Jay2k1, that, but also during football season, I don't have to wait for refs to figure out challenges, I don't have to hear crap commentary betwen snaps, etc
[22:04:29] sphery: ad + timestretch ftw!
[22:04:37] sphery: er, ad skipping + timestretch
[22:04:52] lucas^: it's just not the same watching Starcraft 2 or whatnot six or twelve hours after the match already happened
[22:05:05] lucas^: for one, you can skip straight to the end at any time
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[22:05:34] tgm4883: lucas^, what is the point of skipping to the end?
[22:05:52] sphery: lucas^: does that mean you really liked Stephen King's experimental "I'll write more chapters as you guys pay for them" approach to novels (so you couldn't skip ahead and find out what happened :)
[22:06:04] lucas^: Stephen King's novels all suck
[22:06:13] tgm4883: sphery, that would imply that he can read
[22:06:17] tgm4883: j/k
[22:06:30] sphery: IIRC, that approach only yielded 3 chapters :)
[22:06:30] lucas^: fun fact: the movies only are any good if they deviate sharply from the novel's contents
[22:06:45] tgm4883: lucas^, seriously though, what is the point of skipping to the end?
[22:06:58] tgm4883: lucas^, if you want to watch something, why skip to the end just because you can?
[22:07:05] lucas^: the fact that you can do it kind-of invalidates the experience
[22:07:08] lucas^: in my opinion
[22:07:21] tgm4883: lucas^, how do you watch movies?
[22:07:25] lucas^: for one, it's almost impossible to not eventually notice the runtime of the video
[22:07:25] Jay2k1: yeah i know what you mean
[22:07:38] tgm4883: I am so confused
[22:07:39] Jay2k1: but only regarding sports ;)
[22:07:43] lucas^: if it's short you know that someone's going to lose to a bunker rush or something
[22:07:49] sphery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plant ... seems he got 6
[22:07:58] lucas^: if it's long you'll know that player A survives this push
[22:08:20] lucas^: same thing goes for football in a looser sense, if it's 3:30 hrs long, it's probably into overtime
[22:08:21] tgm4883: so don't look at that?
[22:08:32] sphery: but since MythTV doesn't know whether it's still going on, the recorded time means nothing
[22:08:35] tgm4883: actaully no
[22:08:37] lucas^: also, you lose the ability to discuss the match live on the internet
[22:08:51] tgm4883: that is a bunch of BS, you have absolutly no idea how long it is to the end
[22:09:00] tgm4883: sphery, +1
[22:09:04] sphery: i.e. generally you have to set a "end late" on the rule to make sure that MythTV records it all in spite of the stupid networks scheduling too little time, then being an hour late on other stuff
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[22:09:19] sphery: so wouldn't give away much
[22:09:53] lucas^: I just can't invision a couple of guys huddled around a TV watching a prerecorded game
[22:09:58] tgm4883: lucas^, so let me get this straight. You want to watch it, but don't care what is happening enough to not skip forward to live, but you also care enough about what is happening that you want to tweet about it
[22:10:02] lucas^: look at the Olympics, everyone hated NBC's coverage of it
[22:10:29] tgm4883: lucas^, I hated the coverage of the Olympics because NBC comentator couldn't shut up
[22:10:38] tgm4883: not because it was time delayed
[22:10:39] Jay2k1: there's that how i met your mother episode where they want to watch the superbown but everyone is busy that day, so they record it and want to meet the next evening to watch it. basically the whole episode is about how they tried very hard not to get spoiled
[22:10:56] sphery: (not like American Ninja Warrior that showed the first 88 finalists compete in Stage 1, then said, "Tune in next week to see the top 12 finalists compete in Stage 1 and those who succeed compete in Stages 2, 3, and 4")
[22:11:11] tgm4883: Jay2k1, delaying something 1 hour is a lot different than delaying it 24 hours
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[22:11:30] sphery: i.e. "everyone will suck and virtually no one will go to Stage 2, and 3 and 4 are a pipe dream"
[22:12:12] sphery: then again, there was a study that said that in general, people's enjoyment is actually increased due to spoilers
[22:12:27] tgm4883: lucas^, Jay2k1 further, making a sporting event a scheduled recording doesn't mean you can't start watching it as soon as it starts
[22:12:35] Jay2k1: on soccer championships, when your team wins, people will drive their cars through the city honking all the time and cheering. also, when your team scores some people ignite crackers and rockets. its just disappointing when you already get spoiled when your team scores before you see it
[22:12:46] lucas^: sure, but GomTV airs at around 2–3am in America
[22:12:57] lucas^: and lasts for around three hours
[22:12:58] tgm4883: Jay2k1, please see my previous comment
[22:13:01] sphery: http://www.vulture.com/2011/08/spoiler_alert.html + http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/spo . . . il-anything/ + http://www.themarysue.com/spoilers-study/ + ...
[22:13:13] tgm4883: lucas^, you make absolutely no sense
[22:13:16] Jay2k1: tgm4883 im not even talking about scheduling, i'm only talking about watching it LIVE, and having delay is NOT live, it's delayed.
[22:13:23] Jay2k1: that's the whole point
[22:13:46] sphery: live isn't nearly as live as you might think--even without mythtv
[22:13:49] tgm4883: Jay2k1, news flash, from the time it actually happens until the time you see it on your screen is 20+ seconds
[22:13:58] tgm4883: and likely a lot more
[22:14:32] Jay2k1: just like everyone else
[22:14:53] tgm4883: Jay2k1, except for the people at the stadium cheering and setting off fireworks
[22:15:02] Jay2k1: thing is, if everyone sees it with 5 min delays, it doesn't matter
[22:15:08] tgm4883: but I guess THAT goes against your argument, so it's invalid
[22:15:11] sphery: oh, and what about in the Olympics... NBC is airing the Olympics, but saves "the good stuff" for prime time... So, of course, after <Olympian> competes, but before NBC airs that competition, <credit card company> puts an ad--on NBC--that says, "Congratulations to <Olympian> on (his|her) first individual gold"
[22:15:37] sphery: which implies if you don't want spoilers about the Olympics, you needed to not watch the Olympics
[22:15:47] lucas^: everyone saw it on the Twitter hours ago
[22:15:53] lucas^: this is the information age
[22:15:54] sphery: hehe, that too
[22:16:12] tgm4883: I'm not sure what that has to do with the discussion
[22:16:24] tgm4883: actually, I'm not entirely sure what the discussion is about anymore
[22:16:29] lucas^: you know what really pisses me off about recorded broadcasts?
[22:16:42] lucas^: censorship / editing of classic movies
[22:16:45] tgm4883: people that inconsistantly complain about live tv?
[22:16:45] sphery: still, the difference between Live TV and scheduled recordings is not when you watch it/how close to live you are, it's only whether you've told MythTV you're interested in actually seeing it and that it should record it even if you get home late or your frontend crashes during Live TV or ...
[22:16:56] lucas^: I've got a WTV of Scarface on AMC
[22:17:02] lucas^: I'm not even sure I'm going to transcode it
[22:17:22] sphery: if you don't tell MythTV it's important to you, don't complain when MythTV fails to record it or some parts of it
[22:17:34] tgm4883: lucas^, I don't bother recording movies, all mine are DVD rips
[22:17:46] lucas^: yeah, I'm thinking I should just buy the DVD for $2 at some pawnshop
[22:18:06] lucas^: you get lucky sometimes. TCM airs unedited movies
[22:18:12] tgm4883: yea you can find DVD's super cheap now
[22:18:19] lucas^: it's basically the same as a DVD rip, minus the chapters
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[22:18:38] lucas^: although I still need to find a decent deinterlace filter for ffmpeg
[22:18:54] lucas^: and something to remove black-bars, although Handbrake needs to do that too
[22:18:56] sphery: +1, I get DVDs of cable-only TV or of movies rather than pay for cable and save a fortune without that cable subscription fee
[22:19:12] sphery: (and still have more recorded TV than I'll ever watch)
[22:19:17] tgm4883: sphery, please oh please lets rename "schedules recordings" to "Important recordings" and "watch tv" to "unimportant recordings"
[22:19:31] lucas^: these days there's also Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Google Video...
[22:19:35] lucas^: who needs cable?
[22:19:44] tgm4883: I do :/
[22:19:46] sphery: tgm4883: I like those names!
[22:20:14] tgm4883: Can't get sporting events on those, and unless the BBC opens up their ITV stuff, Can't get Doctor Who without cable
[22:20:28] tgm4883: lucas^, but I agree, you can get most things though those
[22:20:30] sphery: well, let's see... Netflix = Silverlight DRM (meaning can't be used on open GNU/Linux)
[22:20:42] lucas^: you know what else I hate
[22:20:46] tgm4883: sphery, I hope that changes soon, didn't MS deprecate Silverlight?
[22:20:48] lucas^: people who insist on calling it 'GNU/Linux'
[22:20:52] sphery: Amazon Instant, Hulu (and Hulu Plus) = Flash (meaning basically dead on GNU/Linux)
[22:20:55] lucas^: Stallman, you had fuck-all to do with Linux
[22:20:57] sphery: Google Video = ?
[22:21:12] tgm4883: sphery, I think that only works on android
[22:21:17] lucas^: you hijacked the entire open-source movement for your dumb political lobby
[22:21:19] sphery: is that just YouTube (I've seen a guy fall off a skateboard, so don't need to see it again.)
[22:21:44] tgm4883: https://play.google.com/store/movies
[22:22:04] sphery: oh, Google Video on Android only would mean I can sit in front of my 68" HDTV and watch a movie while holding my 10.1" tablet in front of me
[22:22:28] lucas^: I think it's called Google Play now
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[22:22:37] sphery: oh, wait, no, Apple sued to prevent them from selling me that 10.1" tablet because--shock--it's rectangular with rounded corners, so I have to watch it on my 7" tablet
[22:22:38] tgm4883: IDK if you can watch it in a browser, I can't be bothered to install flash to find out
[22:22:49] lucas^: and it also plays on computers and such, so it's possible to put on a TV
[22:23:03] sphery: on computers that don't run Windows or Mac OS X?
[22:23:18] tgm4883: I bet it works on chromeos
[22:23:20] lucas^: but that would make the MPAA cry
[22:23:30] lucas^: you want little Jimmy to buy his new jet, right?
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[22:23:57] sphery: (granted, I have done Netflix streaming on my XBox 360, and will likely use that for Amazon Instant--since I have some "free when you buy it on DVD" stuff on there, but it would be nice to have an option that I could actually use on my MythTV box)
[22:24:38] lucas^: honestly, content producers are nervous enough putting things on Netflix, for many reasons other than copy protection
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[22:24:44] sphery: oh, and all the Flash-based ones are unusable at full screen (because of Trash software scaling) at 1920x1080 on my dual-core 3GHz with 4GB RAM and GeForece GT220 with VDPAU system
[22:24:52] tgm4883: sphery, yea I'd like there to be some sort of integration. Currently I use my TV for Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon
[22:25:17] sphery: yeah, IMHO, that's the best option, now... TV or game console or Roku or similar
[22:25:40] tgm4883: yea :/
[22:25:42] sphery: we GNU/Linux users aren't worth the support, so I don't see that changing in the future
[22:25:58] tgm4883: Everything should just be required to have an API
[22:26:03] tgm4883: that can be used for this
[22:26:12] sphery: and, since it's a federal felony offense for me to play back a DVD on my GNU/Linux machine in the US, the XBox 360 does that, too
[22:26:17] tgm4883: I swear, when I run for president, things are gonna change
[22:26:19] lucas^: Stallman would just whine about DRM and everyone would oppose it as some sort of fascist Microsoft takeover of Linux
[22:26:27] lucas^: like what's happening with Steam currently
[22:26:39] sphery: and I haven't switched to BluRay, but for that would use a PS3, likely
[22:26:48] tgm4883: lucas^, people would have to take stallman seriously first
[22:26:56] tgm4883: s/stallman/FSF
[22:27:17] sphery: well, it's impossible to do DRM on F/LOSS, so ...
[22:27:39] sphery: basically, as long as there's an insistence on using DRM, we're out of luck
[22:27:58] tgm4883: sphery, true, but you can do it in closed source software
[22:28:21] tgm4883: although I think we're mixing conversations now
[22:29:43] tgm4883: speaking of Apple vs Samsung, the Jury is apparently in on that case
[22:29:48] tgm4883: still awaiting verdict
[22:30:13] lucas^: a good example of why patent reform is so badly needed here
[22:30:44] tgm4883: lucas^, yes, there are far too many things that shouldn't be patentable that have patents
[22:31:08] tgm4883: or rather, you should be able to take existing stuff, add "on a phone" and be able to patent it
[22:31:15] tgm4883: shouldn't*
[22:31:43] lucas^: too easy to obtain a patent without actually having to prove any intent or serious effort in implementing the technology in a timely manner
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[22:31:57] Jay2k1: my point is, there are things when you want to watch the direct stream from the tv card, just as you would see it when watching tv on your tv, not through myth. vdr does that, myth can't. then again, in myth i can pause or rewind whenever i like, vdr can't do that
[22:32:04] Jay2k1: i chose myth so its fine
[22:32:21] Jay2k1: but that is what many people complain about – and i can understand that
[22:32:39] lucas^: there's always W7MC I guess
[22:33:05] tgm4883: Jay2k1, I see your point, I'm just unsure why you are making it
[22:33:16] tgm4883: That wasn't the discussion
[22:33:28] fbnts: Hi, Recently my mythtv installation has been very unstable. The backend will stop recording dvb-t. From looking at the logs I am getting: DVBRead dvbstreamhandler.cpp:214 (RunTS) DVBSH(/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Device EOF detected
[22:33:41] tgm4883: Live TV isn't going away (as much as I'd like it to, it will stay)
[22:34:41] tgm4883: I don't think the "stream recording from disk or stream from card" is up to debate
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[22:35:13] fbnts: I am also seeing a lot of log messages like: TFWWrite ThreadedFileWriter.cpp:499 (DiskLoop) TFW(/recordings/1001_20120824232700.mpg:88): write(58280) cnt 44 total 2542700 — took a long time, 4299 ms
[22:35:18] fbnts: is that anything to worry about?
[22:40:24] sphery: fbnts: seems your file system and/or I/O subsystem isn't keeping up
[22:40:59] sphery: could be something like running MySQL with data on ext4 file system that's also used for recordings
[22:41:11] sphery: or any of a number of other things
[22:41:33] sphery: i.e. very hard to track down, but mythtv is doing the best it can for the performance it's getting from your system
[22:41:44] sphery: (could even be just an underpowered system in use)
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[22:44:23] fbnts: well its a 2tb SATA-III drive but it is running MySQL DB from the same HD
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[22:52:07] lapion: is it just the ubuntu ppa maintainers, or is everyone of mythtv on vacation.
[22:54:48] tgm4883: lapion, I'm suppose to be on vacation?
[22:54:53] ** tgm4883 leaves **
[22:55:22] tgm4883: lapion, seriously though, snarky isn't the best introduction
[22:55:37] lapion: nice.. well deserved.. There is only one way to keep up the good work, take a vacation now and then
[22:56:14] lapion: was not meant to be a snarky comment, it was a question..
[22:56:18] tgm4883: lapion, please though, let me know how I'm not doing my job
[22:56:27] tgm4883: <-- Ubuntu PPA maintainer
[22:58:48] tgm4883: Granted, I do have today off, but that is because during the summer I work 4 10 hour days, so not exactly a vacation
[22:58:53] lapion: well my question was out of nothing more then curiosity. (no pun intended)
[22:59:21] tgm4883: and I do have a slight headache, which I'm trying to combat with juice and kit kat bars
[23:00:03] tgm4883: So was there something you needed?
[23:00:40] lapion: Sugar will raise your blood pressure, and chocolate thickens your blood.
[23:01:08] lapion: No like I said I was just wondering.
[23:01:41] tgm4883: I'll have to counter that with Rum then
[23:01:51] desto: how about aspirin in the first place? :)
[23:02:03] desto: give it 40 minutes .. or 20 if you have a good placebo effect and youre headache-free.
[23:02:10] tgm4883: desto, that doesn't sound like nearly enough fun
[23:07:26] lapion: so kitkat bars, juice and alcohol will only worsen you headache, all three dehydrate your body leading to headaches and hangovers.
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[23:08:21] lapion: The best solution for dehydration and/or a hangover is lots of water
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[23:12:07] sphery: lapion: you weren't supposed to tell tgm4883 that all the other Mythbuntu guys went on vacation without him--there's a reason they didn't invite him
[23:12:25] tgm4883: :(
[23:12:37] tgm4883: probably cause I'm the only one around here doing any work ;)
[23:12:57] sphery: (because, of course, they knew he could handle doing all the work himself--after all, he already does a ton of stuff for MythTV :)
[23:13:05] sphery: hehe, yeah
[23:13:41] tgm4883: my most common though "WTF is this developer doing here in this code?"
[23:13:46] tgm4883: thought
[23:14:48] sphery: hehe, me too
[23:15:02] sphery: (sometimes "this developer" turns out to be me, too)
[23:15:35] tgm4883: heh
[23:15:49] tgm4883: I usually comment my stuff enough that I remember what I'm doing
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[23:16:06] ** sphery decides to push the change he promised and /then/ have dinner **
[23:16:10] tgm4883: it's when I have to do stuff in multiple places and I haven't touched the code in awhile that gets me in trouble
[23:17:30] sphery: yeah
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[23:30:54] lapion: sphery, I assumed that might be a possibility, and wanted to ask over here to be certain.
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