| Monday, August 13th, 2012, 00:06 UTC | ||
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| [00:07:59] | Luke-C: | No, it's not... |
| [00:08:03] | Luke-C: | I've just had a look. |
| [00:08:11] | Luke-C: | It's actually calling thumb_url |
| [00:08:30] | Luke-C: | Which ends with: |
| [00:08:32] | Luke-C: | return root_url."tv/get_pixmap/{$this->hostname}/{$this->chanid}/{$this-> recstartts}/$width/$height/$secs_in/$filename.{$width}x{$height}x$se$ |
| [00:08:33] | Luke-C: | |
| [00:09:25] | Luke-C: | Oh, wait. get_pixmap might then call the other function. I see. |
| [00:09:33] | kormoc: | right, it should |
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| [00:16:37] | Luke-C: | I've echo'd all the stuff in get_pixmap.php, which seems fine. |
| [00:16:59] | Luke-C: | Though I can't help but think that $path[x] is a bit dodgy... |
| [00:17:18] | Luke-C: | If someone were to put mythweb in a sub-folder, it's stop working, right? |
| [00:17:49] | kormoc: | shouldn't |
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| [00:20:20] | kormoc: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/blob/master . . . ines.php#L44 |
| [00:20:40] | kormoc: | we pull the path here, and it goes from the myth web base, so sub folders/etc shouldn't matter |
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| [00:21:41] | Luke-C: | Ah. |
| [00:21:42] | Luke-C: | Ok. |
| [00:22:00] | Luke-C: | I've disabled the content type, which is causing the png to be dispalyed as text. |
| [00:22:21] | Luke-C: | It looks reasonably valid. |
| [00:22:30] | Luke-C: | It starts with ‰PNG HDR |
| [00:22:41] | Luke-C: | And ends with IEND®B`‚ |
| [00:22:50] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [00:22:58] | alleria: | i could use some help with picking my frontend i have a xbox360 a dtv dvr and a amd phenom II 620 2.6gig with 4.00 gigs of ram that i am planning to use as my backend would appreciate some help with this |
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| [00:24:03] | Luke-C: | The actual image starts with �PNG |
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| [00:27:11] | Luke-C: | I think that they're both the same, but it's hard to tell. |
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| [00:33:13] | Luke-C: | ls lists them as the same length, but diff says that they differ. |
| [00:35:23] | kormoc: | Luke-C, hrm. The backend might be converting them somehow |
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| [00:44:59] | Twiggy2cents: | (Far off chance) but does anybody in here have a scheduler roomba? |
| [00:45:18] | Twiggy2cents: | I want to program a start date into my roomba but lirc doesnt have a scheduler remote :( |
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| [00:47:16] | Luke-C: | Ran them throuh cmp |
| [00:47:31] | Luke-C: | There are 5500 bytes different, which is a not insignificant number... |
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| [00:57:09] | Luke-C: | Ok, I'm happy. |
| [00:57:18] | Luke-C: | I've given up on getting them to work. |
| [00:57:47] | Luke-C: | I wasn't really that bothered, but I wanted to be able to play flash. |
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| [00:58:43] | Luke-C: | If anyone else somes in with the same problem, just tell them to delete lines 666–670 (I think, they're gone now) of modules/tv/tmpl/default/detail.php |
| [01:01:26] | kormoc: | Luke-C, you should do up a ticket, so folks know what's up at least |
| [01:02:06] | Luke-C: | I'm not exactly sure what's causing it. |
| [01:02:17] | kormoc: | That's okay, someone will figure it out |
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| [01:02:22] | Luke-C: | It's quite possibly my tinkering, to get php5.4 to work. |
| [01:02:25] | Luke-C: | Alright. |
| [01:02:35] | Luke-C: | I'll do it in the morning, it's late here! XD |
| [01:02:50] | kormoc: | Heh, no worries. :) |
| [01:02:57] | Luke-C: | Thanks for your help :) |
| [01:03:12] | ** kormoc tips his hat ** | |
| [01:04:24] | Luke-C: | Although, I only get flash player on programs that are currently recording. Is that normal? |
| [01:04:42] | kormoc: | No, it should work with any of them |
| [01:05:54] | Luke-C: | Oh. |
| [01:06:08] | Luke-C: | My setup just seems to be breaking things all over the place. |
| [01:06:47] | Luke-C: | It doesn't have that box with job info or options to stream / download on the detail page at all. (though I can do those two from the recorded programs screen. |
| [01:07:03] | Luke-C: | I'll have a look in the morning. Really need to get to bed! |
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| [03:12:51] | wagnerrp: | SteveGoodey: you're up early |
| [03:16:27] | wagnerrp: | you know, im not sure what i find more disturbing... |
| [03:16:43] | wagnerrp: | people who run VMs for software that need special access to some piece of hardware |
| [03:17:00] | wagnerrp: | or people who run file servers inside VMs |
| [03:17:21] | wagnerrp: | if anything is asking for dedicated hardware, its those two applications |
| [03:18:07] | SteveGoodey: | Yeah, a bit hot and couldn't get back to sleep. Thought I'd so some work on my McLaren Formula 1 model car. |
| [03:18:43] | wagnerrp: | 1:1 scale? |
| [03:23:14] | SteveGoodey: | Ha, yeah I wish. 1:8. Some glue I've used doesn't seem to want to go off. Have to retry with something else. |
| [03:25:57] | SteveGoodey: | Good, the DVB-T radio recordings have converted to mp3. Wonder what PES packet size mismatch means? |
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| [03:56:05] | fafa88_: | last day of olympics and I ran out of hard drive space! |
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| [04:02:20] | fafa88_: | hm, i deleted a bunch of recordings but my diskspace isn't increasing. |
| [04:02:47] | [R]: | fafa88_: in 25 by deafult it goes to a "deleted" group |
| [04:02:52] | [R]: | it'll be deleted within 15 minutes or so |
| [04:03:02] | [R]: | maybe 5... |
| [04:04:32] | wagnerrp: | next run of the autoexpire routine |
| [04:04:44] | wagnerrp: | which runs every 15 at minimum |
| [04:07:11] | fafa88_: | wagnerrp: thanks, waiting for it so I can force the recording :) |
| [04:11:17] | fafa88_: | wow, i freed up 1TB of space! |
| [04:11:21] | wagnerrp: | it will speed up that rate if your expected recording rate will fill the disk in under 15 minutes |
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| [04:12:28] | wagnerrp: | actually, it will run faster if your recording rate will drop you below the minimum required free space in under the pre-set 15 minute interval |
| [04:12:45] | wagnerrp: | which defaults to 1GB, or maybe 10GB these days |
| [04:26:03] | fafa88_: | after the disk full condition, I had to force recordings and start/stop some, myth thought it was still recorded, but it wasn't. |
| [04:37:46] | skd5aner: | well, that's the default... |
| [04:37:56] | skd5aner: | for example, I have mine set to stay in the deleted group for 3 days I believe |
| [04:38:40] | skd5aner: | and, I vaugley recall seeing a change go in at somepoint in this current dev cycle that indicates there could potentially be a bug where auto-expirable content would delete prior to deleted content in certain circumstances |
| [04:39:25] | fafa88_: | i am more concerned about myth lying when it hits the disk full condition and thinks that it is still recording, but obviously the writes to disk have failed. |
| [04:39:35] | skd5aner: | not sure if that got backported to 0.25-fixes or not, or if I even recall the bug correctly – but I've seen weird things happen where deleted things didn't delete and auto-expirable content did because of how things balance across recording groups |
| [04:39:44] | skd5aner: | (storage groups that is) |
| [04:40:10] | skd5aner: | fafa88_: and, yes, that did happen to me for the first time ever a few moths ago |
| [04:40:21] | skd5aner: | fafa88_: the last problem you just stated |
| [04:40:57] | fafa88_: | yup, 2nd time it happened to me ;) I think it happens so few that people blink and ignore it when it happens. |
| [04:41:08] | skd5aner: | to the point where my drive was truly full... I think some basic troubleshooting showed it wasn't able to expire/delete things in a timely fashion... I don't really remember |
| [04:41:27] | skd5aner: | yea, basically what I did... but I was PISSED because it was during the final 20 laps of the Indy 500 :P |
| [04:41:45] | fafa88_: | i am glad I caught it otherwise I would miss the entire closing ceremony! |
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| [04:42:39] | skd5aner: | Watching the first 400 miles of a 500 mile race is kinda a waste of time when you can't see the last 100 |
| [04:42:59] | fafa88_: | Yup, loved skipping to the end! |
| [04:43:38] | fafa88_: | I really enjoyed using myth this round.. kids/wife did also. |
| [04:43:46] | skd5aner: | anyway – I haven't followed 0.26 dev closely at all, so I don't know if it's been fixed or not, but I think at least some of it was |
| [04:44:04] | skd5aner: | anyway – off to bed for me |
| [04:45:18] | bill6502: | wagnerrp: Any objection of I add S252 and S26 to the Script info template? |
| [04:45:50] | bill6502: | s/of/if |
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| [04:51:35] | wagnerrp: | if youve made images for them, go for it |
| [04:53:27] | bill6502: | i have them, but never added an image before. is it done with the "Upload file" special page? |
| [04:53:37] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [04:53:43] | bill6502: | thanks |
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| [05:00:13] | ahhughes: | so, how long before we get some real ARM support? http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/08/samsungs-ne . . . eo-at-60fps/ |
| [05:01:50] | [R]: | never... |
| [05:03:11] | ahhughes: | you must work for microsoft. |
| [05:03:16] | ahhughes: | ;) |
| [05:03:36] | [R]: | huh? |
| [05:03:44] | [R]: | the devs have said it many a time on the mailinglist |
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| [05:27:44] | northrup: | I'm confused… |
| [05:28:04] | northrup: | does MythTV use instruction sets that are native only to the x86 chipset? |
| [05:28:21] | [R]: | ffmpeg isn't too happy with arm sometimes |
| [05:28:36] | northrup: | Ahh, OK |
| [05:28:47] | [R]: | plus most arms people want to use with myth |
| [05:28:49] | [R]: | suck big time |
| [05:29:04] | northrup: | but they're nothing stopping someone from checking out the code and compiling against the ARM? |
| [05:29:18] | [R]: | nothign except for when the code doesnt compile |
| [05:29:23] | [R]: | because of various arm sucks issues |
| [05:29:26] | northrup: | I agree – using MythTV with ARM is an uphill battle |
| [05:29:29] | [R]: | tons of examples in the mailinglist |
| [05:30:11] | northrup: | I can well imagine, I haven't gone trolling through the list – I really don't have any masochistic desire to use ARM |
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| [06:02:59] | ahhughes: | the fact is that ARM and x86 have different qualities. There are very legitimate reasons to use ARM over x86. However ARM is very much in its infantcy and somewhat unrealistic. But if you were to graph the maturity (i.e. time vs cost vs performace) of ARM over the past 3 years, or even 12 months it would months how much its growing. The same rates of development can't be found in x86. |
| [06:03:32] | ahhughes: | ...it would show how much its growing" |
| [06:03:34] | [R]: | i use arm |
| [06:03:37] | [R]: | where it belongs |
| [06:03:40] | [R]: | in embeddeded systems |
| [06:03:58] | [R]: | not with a huge honkin c++ app |
| [06:04:38] | ahhughes: | You'd have to tell me why only embedded is a good idea... |
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| [06:12:56] | northrup: | I think that ARM is a great new thing (not *that* new, but you know) |
| [06:13:32] | ikrabbe: | actually myth and arm would be a nice combination, thinking about arm devices embedded in TV's |
| [06:13:37] | northrup: | I think that if ARM levels out and matures that it could be a good platform for MythTV, but MythTV needs to slim down and ARM needs to stabilize |
| [06:14:06] | northrup: | the ability to run MythTV on a small ARM stack without the need for massive amounts of cooling and what not make it sexy for a front end |
| [06:14:09] | ikrabbe: | and its not the fault of the arm platform that it isn't able to compile mythtv |
| [06:15:11] | northrup: | this is true… however, to be fair the folks that codified ffmpeg never envisioned it running on that architecture… |
| [06:15:28] | northrup: | so it's not that easy to move a ship that large given the amount of complexity that happens inside of the ffmpeg code base |
| [06:17:00] | ikrabbe: | what from ffmpeg does not work on arm, btw? |
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| [06:18:52] | ikrabbe: | http://odroid.foros-phpbb.com/t338-ffmpeg-com . . . -android-ndk |
| [06:19:29] | northrup: | honestly – I think it's all in how much you're willing to work for it and how much of it you understand |
| [06:20:08] | northrup: | if you understand compiler options and flags, where your libraries are and your headers, then hopefully for most it's not that big of a deal |
| [06:20:42] | northrup: | I think that when there are people complaining about things like this, it's because they issues the 'make' command without and understanding of what was happening and then complained when it didn't magically work. |
| [06:20:42] | ahhughes: | I've got no doubt that there could be a lot of work involved. I'm suprised at the number of people who just look at ARM and say "NO" outright. Fact is that tablets and mobile computing would be (and today are effectively) nothing on x86. Regardless of the work required, there are many benefits to ARM which don't deserve an outright "NO" answer, |
| [06:21:38] | northrup: | granted – I'll also say that I've been on the side of "WTF?!" scratching my head and tracking down ghosts when I was trying to get a custom kernel compiled with a broadcom ePCI card to offload MPEG and H.264 processing… |
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| [06:23:11] | northrup: | ahhughes: I completely agree – then again I'm old enough and have world long enough in IT to firmly remember a day that was VAX, RISC, MIPS, Alpha, and x86… as opposed to the world we have today that seems to think that x86 is the only architecture that there ever was or should be. |
| [06:23:23] | northrup: | s/world/worked/g |
| [06:24:46] | dekarl1: | arm is a 32bit architecture from 1983, I would not call that new :) The issue with arm systems and mythtv is that usually people want to run on old arm chips with the processing power of a pentium 2 and unsupported video acceleration APIs. If you compile on one of the new models there are no issues (power wise) |
| [06:24:50] | dekarl1 is now known as dekarl | |
| [06:26:21] | dekarl: | e.g. Dockstar or Raspberry PI |
| [06:26:42] | ahhughes: | well, if they can spin the clock cycle of x86 up/down as needed then I'd be happy. |
| [06:29:33] | northrup: | @dekarl I agree |
| [06:31:13] | northrup: | my comment about new was a rash 'mis-comment'… They've been around for a LONG time and used in lots of specialized application roles… they concept that they would be used for broader roles and more generally used with non-custom operating systems is a relatively new rise to popularity and spotlight |
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| [06:32:12] | northrup: | dekarl: I agree though, generally what you find is people compiling for an old ARM, and then bitching when it doesn't work… |
| [06:32:42] | ahhughes: | so you saying myth will compile and run on a pi? |
| [06:33:31] | ahhughes: | backend only (no transcoding) would suit me. |
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| [06:36:32] | dekarl: | it should work in principle, but with such low amounts of memory you will be very limited. You would be swapping to some bigger box over the network to get decent performance. Which means you might as well run the backend there :) |
| [06:37:24] | northrup: | as a backend I don't see why you couldn't use the raspberry pi |
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| [06:38:53] | ahhughes: | yeah, to be honest I think pi is a waste of time. I would be happy to pay several hundred for a more powerful ARM machine. Something with more ram, esata... |
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| [06:47:53] | northrup: | I'm curious as to what everyone else is using for back end storage? |
| [06:48:11] | northrup: | and if anyone is using a mutl-backend system setup? |
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| [06:50:52] | dekarl1: | northrup: because it has no memory (256mb *shared* with the gpu) and no io (only one USB 2.0 port). |
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| [06:52:58] | northrup: | heh… ok – so it wouldn't be a very effective back end ;-) |
| [06:53:29] | northrup: | I'm wondering if anyone has used iSCSI as a backend? |
| [06:53:41] | northrup: | well, for backend storage |
| [06:53:47] | northrup: | and if they'v been happy with it |
| [06:54:59] | dekarl: | has been done, just look for the "virtualization is the best thing since sliced bread" thread on the users list :) (i forgot the actual title, but it was a rather long thread earlier this year) |
| [06:55:21] | northrup: | ha! |
| [06:56:10] | northrup: | I've seen people post about multi-node backend systems, and that's really got my curiosity peaked… |
| [06:56:13] | dekarl: | usually talking about 1U compute nodes and 3+U storage nodes |
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| [06:56:49] | northrup: | in terms of it is my understanding that all of the backend nodes would need to mount the same chuck of disk space |
| [06:56:58] | northrup: | chunk that is |
| [06:57:23] | dekarl: | no need for shared storage |
| [06:57:33] | northrup: | no? |
| [06:58:05] | northrup: | So if you had two nodes, for example B1 and B2, where B1 is the master and has the disk, and B2 is going to perform services like commercial flagging and chopping… |
| [06:58:17] | northrup: | B2 doesn't have to see the same storage on B1? |
| [06:58:34] | dekarl: | thats the way its meant to be. |
| [06:58:45] | northrup: | how does B2 do the commercial flagging and chopping? transfer the recording to B2 and then transfer it back to B1 when done? |
| [06:59:19] | dekarl: | comflag should be streaming, not sure why chopping should be done remotely |
| [07:02:34] | northrup: | right, comflag is done to the frontend by modifying start/stop times in the file that is being streamed |
| [07:02:55] | northrup: | but the comflag process that determines where commercials are and flags the meta data in the file is a backend process. |
| [07:03:17] | northrup: | if I wanted a backed to perform the comflag process that is not the backend that recorded the show and had the show stored on it via local storage |
| [07:03:35] | northrup: | I would need to share that storage out to the backend performing the comflag process, right? |
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| [07:19:12] | dekarl: | northrup: Thats what I was trying to say. mythcommflag should be able to stream the recording directly from the backend instead of going via NFS/SMB |
| [07:20:34] | northrup: | Ahh, OK. So dumb question – does that mean that mythcommflag has to stream the show and review it in real time for drop-to-back? |
| [07:22:24] | dekarl: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936049 says its working but the backend wants tuners... that has been solved in the meantime by providing mythjobqueue (and mythmediaserver for providing videos) |
| [07:23:32] | dekarl: | mythcommflag can flag in realtime (as in it can't commflag into the unrecorded future) or as a batch job once the recording is done (faster the realtime in this case) |
| [07:27:52] | dekarl: | northrup: that sounded strange.. I was trying to say mythcommflag will usualy not be limited by the CPU. (unless you run it on a Dockstar or similar) |
| [07:28:28] | dekarl: | I'm off to work, ttyl |
| [07:29:39] | northrup: | thanks dekarl! |
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| [11:21:48] | mal: | I seem to have myself in a bit of a quandry. I have mythbuntu installed on 2 machines (1 backend, 1 frontend) but I can't stand the backend, it says no uPnP backend found, can someone help please |
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| [12:04:22] | jayvee: | mal: statically configure it instead of using upnp? |
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| [12:04:57] | mal: | I gave both the boxes a static ip. is that what you mean? |
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| [18:37:46] | mlg9000: | Is there a way to tell Myth to always record one program instead of another, regardless if that program doesn't play later or not? |
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| [18:44:10] | ronoc-work: | mlg9000: Priority +1? |
| [18:45:04] | jarle: | mlg9000: for the show you want to have priority, set it to record the first airing |
| [18:45:32] | jarle: | mlg9000: AND increase it's priority also.. |
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| [18:46:51] | jarle: | mlg9000: the "first airing" (I'm not sure what it is called in the english version) rule is found under "filters" for the recording rule. |
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| [18:59:45] | mlg9000: | Except that is what I already have and it does not work |
| [19:01:08] | mlg9000: | It seems that if it can't find another showing for the lower priority and it can for the higher priority show... the lower priority showing always wins and the higher priority show gets pushed back |
| [19:01:32] | mlg9000: | I'd like it to just not record the lower priority showing instead |
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| [19:13:57] | jarle: | mlg9000: I see... not sure how to solve that one... |
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| [22:56:32] | ablyss: | hi all... is it "normal" to have video but no sound when I connect to my remote backend... the backend is version .25 and uses hauppauge 1600 to capture /dev/video0 ....the frontend also uses version .25 |
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| [23:48:41] | ablyss: | Okay I got sound to work but adjusting the frontends settings to use pulseaudio instead of alsa default |
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