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Saturday, August 11th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
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[00:05:16] Twiggy2cents: "advanced bash shell script" is there really such a thing?
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[01:01:55] n1md4: hello. how can i disable autoexpire?
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[01:22:02] n1md4: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detail . . . ion_Frontend says (Setup->TV Settings->General) but there is no TV Settings under Setup(!)
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[01:33:45] neufeld_AFK: n1md4: Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> TV Settings -> General in 0.25
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[01:59:05] skd5aner: !seen sphery
[01:59:05] MythLogBot: sphery was last seen 3 days 12 hours 34 minutes 22 seconds ago
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[03:07:54] fearedbliss: anyone using lirc with an ir blaster?
[03:09:07] [R]: tons of people
[03:09:09] [R]: do you have an actual question?
[03:10:28] fearedbliss: [R], yes I've been trying to get my IR blaster to be recognized. It isn't being created at /dev/lirc0 or anything else.
[03:10:41] fearedbliss: [R], My drivers are compiled into the kernel and they load successfully (including firmware)
[03:10:50] [R]: well use modules
[03:10:53] [R]: and look at dmseg whe nyou laod it
[03:11:02] fearedbliss: [R], let me rephrase, I enabled module support in the kernel
[03:11:13] [R]: ok well...
[03:11:19] [R]: [08:10:53] [R] and look at dmseg whe nyou laod it
[03:11:22] fearedbliss: [R], as I just siad "They loaded succesfully"
[03:11:47] [R]: i highly doubt it says that in dmesg
[03:11:54] fearedbliss: I also recompiled udev as maybe that was the problem, since for w/e it isnt creating it
[03:12:01] fearedbliss: [R], I will post my dmesg then, and you be the judge
[03:13:26] fearedbliss: [R], http://bpaste.net/show/39645/
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[03:18:54] fearedbliss: [R], so have you found anything that says it "failed"?
[03:19:11] [R]: when did i ever say there was going to be anythign that said failed?
[03:19:29] fearedbliss: [R], hah! you said "I highly doubt it says in the dmesg"
[03:19:43] [R]: i said to look in dmesg
[03:19:47] [R]: yopu said "they loaded succesfully"
[03:19:51] [R]: no where does it say that in dmesg
[03:19:55] fearedbliss: [R], I've been using Linux for 7 years.. I think I know where to look.
[03:20:04] [R]: yeah you know
[03:20:09] [R]: i dont feel like helpping you anymore
[03:20:12] fearedbliss: [R], what a smart ass I can't believe I'm wasting my time on you
[03:20:24] [R]: rofl
[03:20:25] fearedbliss: [R], the first thing you said was "tons of people, do you have an actual question?" douchebag
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[04:11:41] rumblebumble: what is the best naming convention for video files
[04:12:05] [R]: there is a wiki page
[04:12:10] [R]: about all the forums mythvideo understands
[04:12:10] rumblebumble: OK
[04:13:11] rumblebumble: I am going to try to bust a bunch of bug tonight
[04:13:25] rumblebumble: silly things I never set up properly
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[04:14:33] rumblebumble: Also I am retying out 0.26, seems good so far, only thing so far is mythbackend setup does not exit cleanly
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[08:51:53] whyzzyrd: good morning. Can you tell me when the 0.25-fixes changelog on the wiki is going to start updating again?
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[09:02:28] ManGEE2: Can anyone help me with the web API for streaming live TV?
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[09:05:44] ManGEE2: I'm issuing the call http://192.168.1.165:6544/Content/AddRecordin . . . -11T08:32:00
[09:06:07] ManGEE2: but i get this error returned: 501Call to method failed401Invalid Action
[09:06:56] ManGEE2: Looking at the logs I can see this error every time I issue the API command: HTTPRequest::FormatFileResponse() – cannot find file
[09:13:07] whyzzyrd: turn up apache debugging to insane, to see what the filename it can't find is?
[09:13:31] whyzzyrd: strace -f the apache server?
[09:13:58] ** whyzzyrd applies sledgehammer to hazelnut **
[09:14:10] ManGEE2: I considered that, but I'm assuming the API component doesn't use the standard mythweb services?
[09:14:18] ManGEE2: runs on a different port
[09:14:34] whyzzyrd: indeed, didn't spot that
[09:14:51] ManGEE2: I'm gussing it uses a built in socket as part of the mythback-end server
[09:15:02] whyzzyrd: still, stracing the process that's listening on 6544 would acheive the same result
[09:16:36] whyzzyrd: tis indeed the mythbackend process that's listening on 6544 on mine :)
[09:17:12] dekarl: whyzzyrd: for the fixes changelog to update it takes someone to do the actual work ;) but you can always look at the raw data at http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/log/?h=fixes/0.25
[09:17:28] whyzzyrd: Ahh. I thought it might be autogenerated
[09:18:30] whyzzyrd: Thanks for the link to the cgit page, never thought of hoking around there
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[09:25:08] whyzzyrd: found a typo in the description of ce8f9e25a627d4b164361a5328c3e013dd68476e Freesat moved to Astra 1N (at 28.2E) not Astra 1G (at 23.5E) :)
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[19:47:39] Blaidd: I'm seeing a weird tuner/tuner driver/linux issus that I don't know how to go about troubleshooting. Is there anyone around who might be able to help me out?
[19:50:52] [R]: well seeing as "weird tuner issue" doesn't explain anything
[19:50:56] [R]: how do you expect anyone to know if they can help?
[19:51:51] Blaidd: I wanted to see if anyone was around before typing it all out.. My apologies
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[19:52:33] Blaidd: basically I have two hvr-1600 tuners, and they're both detected in the OS. What I'm seeing though is that which ever tuner is mapped to /dev/video1 doesn't collect video
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[19:53:42] Blaidd: All i get is a solid coloured screen indicating that it's not capturing. I have noticed that if I reboot the two tuners will sometimes switch positions (so the one that was video0 becomes video1) and the it won't recieve video anymore. The tuner that was switched to video0 then starts to be able to recieve..
[19:54:08] [R]: how very odd
[19:54:15] [R]: sounds like a kernel bug
[19:55:00] Blaidd: Ya, it seemed really weird to me too..
[20:00:39] Blaidd: I ust thought maybe it was an irq conflict or something like that.. i just don't know how to find that out in linux
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[20:10:44] RagingMind: Blaidd, cat /proc/interupts
[20:11:16] RagingMind: oops. 'cat /proc/interrupts'
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[20:22:56] Blaidd: RagingMind, thanks
[20:24:07] Blaidd: Damn, they're both on individual interrupts
[20:33:32] RagingMind: Blaidd, have you ever had them working together in a computer?
[20:34:15] Blaidd: Not these two. I had one 1600 working with a 500, but the 500 died of old age, so I bought the second 1600 to replace it
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[20:40:19] Blaidd: And I had considered it was one of the tuner cards, and was actually willing to write one of them off, until I rebooted the system and they had switched /dev/video* assignments. The one I was going to right off ended up in the /dev/video0 slot and works, whereas the other one moved to the /dev/video1 slot and doesn't accept video anymore
[20:42:43] RagingMind: have you tested them one at a time, or moved them to different pci slots?
[20:43:23] Blaidd: yup, and they each work individualls
[20:48:27] RagingMind: googling came up with a post from someone that mentioned the drivers from H* only allow one per computer, but that's on windows
[20:49:19] Blaidd: i've seen a couple of posts that have people with multiple H* cards working, or so they say, so I hope it's not something like that.. You never know though..
[20:49:56] Blaidd: i've had the old pvr-500 card working with the hvr 1600 before, but that was on an older version of the os (possibly pre ivtv drivers)
[20:49:58] RagingMind: what's the computer you're stuffing these in?
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[20:50:53] Blaidd: it's a custome build dual core with 4 gigs of ram running mythbuntu 12.04. I've built the most recent cx drivers from the site
[20:53:17] RagingMind: sometimes, but not often, when I hit weird issues like this, which seems to happen frequently, resetting the BIOS's saved PnP data helps
[20:53:52] Blaidd: hm.. interesting idea. Let me try that. The comps in a different room so it will be acouple of mins
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[21:10:36] Blaidd: RagingMind: I saw that my bios was treating the OS as if it didn't support pnp. After changing that everything seems to be workiing. I"ll leave it for a little while before I go and clean up the tuner numbers, but that's for you help
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[21:45:44] rumblebumble: Hi Guys, just wanted some advice, my provider just updated my channel line up, changed everything around. I have a list of the channels. I logged into SD and removed removed my extra channels from there. To update I did a "mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates". It does not seem to be removing channels that were disabled. What is the best way to do this? Is it best to manage you disabled channel in mythtv or on schedules direc
[21:45:44] rumblebumble: t. Thanks
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[21:51:41] Blaidd: rumblebumble: Someone may tell me this is wrong, but I find I need to do both.
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[21:55:23] rumblebumble: Blaidd, That is what I seemed to notice, there must be a way to do this.
[21:55:40] rumblebumble: I will keep digging through the forum
[21:56:19] RagingMind: I had to go into mythtv-setup and redownload the channels/icons
[22:00:29] sphery: rumblebumble: what kind of channels (how are you recording them)?
[22:00:58] sphery: --do-channel-updates doesn't do anything except give mythtv-setup permission to change things about the existing channels that can cause them to stop working
[22:01:19] sphery: it does /not/ update your in-DB channels to match your Schedules Direct lineup
[22:04:21] rumblebumble: sphery, Thanks, I thought it would update my listings since my schedules direct changed
[22:04:43] rumblebumble: sphery, I am recording them with an HD-pvr
[22:04:59] sphery: so they're analog recordings, which means mythtv-setup can insert them using Fetch channels
[22:05:05] sphery: so update your lineup at SD
[22:05:18] sphery: then go into mythtv-setup and delete the old/broken/wrong ones using Channel Editor
[22:05:28] sphery: then go into Input Connections and Fetch channels...
[22:05:59] rumblebumble: sphery, ok, will do
[22:06:06] rumblebumble: Thanks
[22:06:14] sphery: good luck
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[22:50:24] rumblebumble: sphery, Seem to be running into a caching problem, deleted all channels, regrabbed channels list, When it added the channels, it is also added to old channel at there previous channel number. (so moved channels have two entries)
[22:52:13] rumblebumble: these old channels numbers are not in my schedules direct lineup
[22:52:44] rumblebumble: Btw I am using 0.26
[22:52:59] sphery: you deleted channels from mythtv database using mythtv-setup's channel editor?
[22:53:06] rumblebumble: Yes
[22:53:16] rumblebumble: I select delete all
[22:53:53] sphery: if you're doing a delete all, you're likely better off just deleting the whole video source (or--better--all video sources, if you don't have any others)
[22:54:15] sphery: though mythtv-setup can't add any channels that aren't in the data it's given
[22:54:19] rumblebumble: Then I Fetch channels from my connect source
[22:54:29] sphery: it does cache some info at /tmp/mythtv-dd* (or something like that)
[22:54:46] sphery: but it should be cleaning that up
[22:55:42] rumblebumble: Hummm, I am not sure, I have tried this 3 times and it is still duplicating the moved channels
[22:58:14] rumblebumble: What I mean by that is say CNN HD was on channel 215 and was recently moved to 220. Schedules direct has the correct data. When I retrieve channel line up from SD, I seem to have an entry for CNN HD both on 215 and 220.
[22:58:50] rumblebumble: I have cleared channels by going to channel editor and selecting delete all
[22:59:20] rumblebumble: I added channel line up by goign to input connections
[23:00:08] rumblebumble: How would I go about deleting video sources
[23:00:29] sphery: if that's the case, it sounds like TMS (providers for SD data) is reporting old and new channels
[23:00:33] rumblebumble: Nevermind, stupid question
[23:00:35] sphery: so you'd just need to do what you've done
[23:00:42] sphery: then go into channel editor and delete the old ones
[23:00:50] rumblebumble: OK
[23:00:53] sphery: hit D on each bad channel
[23:01:02] sphery: (to delete individual entries)
[23:01:37] rumblebumble: I will remake my video souces and try again
[23:06:12] rumblebumble: sphery, I am not sure if this idea has been suggested, perhaps it would be a good idea to do a "butter" release. What I mean by that is what android did 4.1. Just focus on smoothness. Perhaps on one theme or just smoothness in general.
[23:09:33] rumblebumble: I am just thinking there could be some development with transitions and caching for remote frontends
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