| Thursday, July 26th, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:24] | sphery: | how much data would a datachunk chunk... |
| [00:00:40] | Beirdo: | hehe, it's blowing chunks |
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| [00:30:46] | Pocketflyer: | anyone familiar with myth for Mac? I'm trying to run front and back on same machine. I got it to record one show but now it won't record anything else. |
| [00:30:51] | Pocketflyer: | I'm using a hdhomerun dual. |
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| [00:36:23] | Seeker`: | Anyone running Mountain Lion yet? |
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| [01:35:30] | LongInTheTooth: | Good evening. I'm trying to find some help with image corruption. |
| [01:35:55] | LongInTheTooth: | I'm running ubuntu 11.02 and a WIN-TV 1800. |
| [01:36:18] | wagnerrp: | analog or digital? |
| [01:36:24] | LongInTheTooth: | digital. |
| [01:37:00] | LongInTheTooth: | The image is fine when viewed with mplayer, but live and recorded video on mythtv has vertical red lines and distorted image. |
| [01:37:11] | wagnerrp: | what graphics card? |
| [01:37:14] | LongInTheTooth: | It worked fine some months ago, but I stopped watching live tv. |
| [01:37:50] | LongInTheTooth: | nvidia GeForce 8500 GT |
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| [01:38:09] | LongInTheTooth: | I started to revive it this week in prep for the olympics and noticed I've had this problem for a while. |
| [01:38:20] | LongInTheTooth: | I wonder if maybe it started when I went to the 3.0 kernel? |
| [01:41:15] | LongInTheTooth: | I've been looking around the forums but everyone seems to assume that once you get it running on mplayer its going to work fine on myth. |
| [01:41:42] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to do software or VDPAU decoding? |
| [01:41:43] | LongInTheTooth: | I haven't found any troubleshooting guides that continue past that point. |
| [01:41:57] | LongInTheTooth: | Don't know. Is that a myth backend setting or a driver thing? |
| [01:42:06] | wagnerrp: | frontend, playback profile |
| [01:43:55] | LongInTheTooth: | CPU+, so I guess software? |
| [01:44:05] | wagnerrp: | try switching to Slim |
| [01:45:00] | LongInTheTooth: | Leave the rez settings default? |
| [01:45:02] | LongInTheTooth: | 1 and 2? |
| [01:45:09] | wagnerrp: | just the stock Slim is fine |
| [01:45:59] | LongInTheTooth: | That did it! |
| [01:46:05] | LongInTheTooth: | Thanks so much! |
| [01:46:43] | LongInTheTooth: | Any way to buy you a beer? I've sunk two hours into this already and got nowhere. |
| [01:48:01] | wagnerrp: | nope, just rest peacefully in the knowledge that in current versions of mythtv, the cpu+ profile is no more |
| [01:48:38] | LongInTheTooth: | Heh. Yes, thoughts like that do help me stay warm at night. |
| [01:48:42] | LongInTheTooth: | Wonder why it worked before... |
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| [01:49:17] | LongInTheTooth: | Anyhow, thanks again brother. |
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| [05:22:50] | Beirdo: | meep meep |
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| [18:34:11] | GlemSom: | Using a ION2 frontend, with a DVB-C backend. Most of my shows have a bad "motion". It's not due to incorrect frequency (like short pauses) – but more like a sort of ghosting. Some shows have it – others does not (Like sports usually have extremly nice motion!!). I've taken a snapshot of a serie – is it really supposed to look like this -> http://troll.ws/i/CbGgkf.png |
| [18:36:05] | wagnerrp: | thats called interlacing |
| [18:36:32] | GlemSom: | The picture is deinterlaced using VDPAU temporal x2 (for HD content, advanced x2 for SD) |
| [18:36:42] | wagnerrp: | no... interlacing would just be two copies |
| [18:38:18] | GlemSom: | I see the same in most american shows – though, in this specific snapshot, it's quite easy to see due to the colors... If I for example watch the danish morning news, there's no such "ghosting" – and the picture looks really great... But, a lot of shows looks (in my eyes) like bad convertation from NTSC to PAL ? |
| [18:38:40] | GlemSom: | Or am I wrong here ? |
| [18:38:50] | wagnerrp: | nope, its rendered right into the source animation... http://snag.gy/DsQDg.jpg |
| [18:39:41] | GlemSom: | So, the source looks this bad ? |
| [18:39:57] | wagnerrp: | thats what my recordings look like |
| [18:40:21] | GlemSom: | Where are you from ? |
| [18:40:30] | wagnerrp: | US |
| [18:40:51] | GlemSom: | Ok, so perfect conditions at your end... and the source still looks like that... |
| [18:41:04] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [18:41:22] | GlemSom: | I just expectec an animation to look better... but, guess that's just my opinion... :P |
| [18:41:51] | wagnerrp: | its intentionally blurred, to make up for the relatively low framerate |
| [18:41:57] | wagnerrp: | its only running 24fps |
| [18:42:07] | wagnerrp: | its telecined, not interlaced |
| [18:42:07] | GlemSom: | 29... ? |
| [18:42:54] | wagnerrp: | 24fps source, with a 4-frame -> 10-frame conversion (2:3 pullup) |
| [18:43:06] | wagnerrp: | to make 60 interlaced fields |
| [18:43:17] | wagnerrp: | s/frame/field/ |
| [18:43:44] | GlemSom: | Series are shot at 24fps... Ok, I didn't expect that... |
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| [18:43:54] | GlemSom: | In that case, I guess there's nothing wrong with my setup... |
| [18:44:05] | GlemSom: | I just dislike the way things are... :?P |
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| [19:42:23] | ikke-t: | hello, anyone here with logitech harmony experiences? |
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| [19:42:45] | ikke-t: | i don't get the webinterface understand there is mythtv pvr available for any of the activities |
| [19:42:57] | ikke-t: | any experience on that? |
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| [19:52:01] | innatech: | Hello. Need help with Myth ignoring mceusb keycodes. |
| [19:52:17] | innatech: | (being received as confirmed by irw) |
| [19:52:51] | skd5aner: | innatech: some of them or all of them? |
| [19:53:03] | innatech: | all. No response to the remote. |
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| [19:55:47] | innatech: | Exactly the same thing as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/166812/after-u . . . 68548#168548 |
| [19:56:26] | innatech: | given that irw sees the codes, I'm thinking this has to do with the migration to a new myth version....something mangled in the configs? |
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| [20:13:10] | innatech: | so...even running irxevent doesn't seem to make Myth respond. What gives? |
| [20:14:41] | frankster: | does ircat mythtv give sensible output? |
| [20:15:10] | innatech: | no output. |
| [20:15:28] | innatech: | irw spams away happily but nothing coming from ircat mythtv |
| [20:15:29] | innatech: | \ |
| [20:15:45] | frankster: | ok so i reckon problem is in the lirc mapping |
| [20:16:07] | frankster: | i have been using mythbuntu-lirc-generator to map the codes from irw to keypresses for mythtv |
| [20:16:14] | innatech: | maybe just manually slap a conf in /etc and put the include schema aside? |
| [20:16:15] | frankster: | .lircrc |
| [20:16:21] | innatech: | ah. |
| [20:17:14] | innatech: | is this related to the dynamic mapping setting in the MCC? |
| [20:17:25] | innatech: | maybe this is in fact a 'buntu problem. |
| [20:17:27] | frankster: | what do you mean by mcc |
| [20:17:33] | innatech: | mythbuntu control center. |
| [20:18:05] | frankster: | im not sure what dynamic mapping controls...its possibly this |
| [20:18:11] | innatech: | I'm going to try removing the remove and re-adding it w/o that enabled. |
| [20:18:52] | frankster: | but the way mine's setup is that .lircrc includes some other files in the .lirc directory, and there's one for each app |
| [20:19:07] | frankster: | mythtv mplayer vlc etc |
| [20:19:39] | frankster: | its got stuff like: |
| [20:19:41] | frankster: | begin remote = devinput prog = mythtv button = KEY_NUMERIC_0 config = 0 repeat = 0 delay = 0 |
| [20:19:45] | frankster: | end |
| [20:19:45] | innatech: | aha. Reapplying that setting appears to do the mythbuntu-lirc-generator thing. |
| [20:22:13] | innatech: | that did it. Apparently one needs to re-generate the settings after upgrade. The box appeared to be permanently checked, which apparently isn't supposed to be how it works. I'll file a bug. |
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| [20:33:36] | wagnerrp: | ikke-t: the "mythtv" profile on the harmony database is nothing more than a hauppauge gray remote |
| [20:34:05] | wagnerrp: | if you arent using the built in IR receiver found on certain hauppauge tuner cards, you dont want to use it |
| [20:34:30] | wagnerrp: | ive occasionally considered petitioning logitech to get that profile removed |
| [20:34:45] | wagnerrp: | since as you say... mythtv does not produce hardware, so that profile makes zero sense |
| [20:35:07] | wagnerrp: | innatech: you should not be using irxevent |
| [20:35:23] | wagnerrp: | irxevent turns IR inputs into X keyboard and mouse commands |
| [20:35:32] | innatech: | I'm not, now. |
| [20:35:33] | wagnerrp: | you want mythtv to be interfacing with lircd directly |
| [20:35:44] | innatech: | It was a troubleshooting step suggested on the myth wiki. |
| [20:35:55] | innatech: | Having generated the mapping, it's working normally. |
| [20:36:00] | wagnerrp: | is `irw` actually spamming the keycodes? |
| [20:36:05] | innatech: | it was. |
| [20:36:06] | wagnerrp: | or is it typing characters to the screen |
| [20:36:18] | innatech: | the mceusb keycodes. |
| [20:36:25] | wagnerrp: | you should see one independent line, with a bunch of verbose description, for each keypress |
| [20:36:33] | wagnerrp: | not a single character |
| [20:36:42] | innatech: | yep. Which myth was ignoring after 11.04 --> 12.04 |
| [20:36:55] | wagnerrp: | then just check the frontend logs when it starts up |
| [20:37:01] | wagnerrp: | and make sure it is trying to read the correct lircrc |
| [20:37:10] | wagnerrp: | and that the lircrc is set to use the correct codes |
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| [20:37:12] | innatech: | It's fixed already. Redoing the mapping in MCC took care of it. |
| [20:37:35] | wagnerrp: | oh... should probably read through to the end before trying to help... :P |
| [20:37:46] | innatech: | heh, that's OK. I appreciate the support! |
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| [20:42:32] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: the series in question are shot in 24 frames/sec? They should simple be played a bit faster in 25 Hz countries like movies. So GlemSom is right when he thinks its a bad conversion from 60 fields/sec source to 50 fields/sec target. |
| [20:43:46] | wagnerrp: | nearly every scripted series ive recorded has been 24FPS, telecined to 60FPS |
| [20:43:55] | wagnerrp: | so it probably would have been just sped up |
| [20:44:32] | wagnerrp: | however, i see the same "rendering issues" on my versions |
| [20:44:38] | wagnerrp: | its not an artifact of the conversion |
| [20:44:44] | wagnerrp: | its just a style of the animation |
| [20:45:00] | wagnerrp: | intentionally blurred |
| [20:45:31] | wagnerrp: | but blurred by rendering at like 240fps, and blending all 10 frames together |
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| [20:45:46] | wagnerrp: | see the two images in question |
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| [20:48:09] | dekarl: | I can't see yours, but when I first looked at his it appeared as two frames.. but looking again it looks like the 240fps rendering... |
| [20:48:19] | wagnerrp: | site blocked? |
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| [20:49:33] | dekarl: | seems like site broken in Opera/FreeBSD |
| [20:50:31] | dekarl: | getting a html page back instead of an image |
| [20:50:54] | wagnerrp: | http://www.wagnerrp.com/snapshot.png |
| [20:50:59] | ikke-t: | wagnerrp: thanks, i just poured my problems to users mailing list before i saw your irc. Maybe i try the MCE setup for Harmony. It was mentioned to have lot of buttons pre-configured |
| [20:51:17] | ikke-t: | and I do have a generic serial lirc receiver |
| [20:51:22] | dekarl: | ahh, almost the same frame :) |
| [20:51:34] | wagnerrp: | yeah, its just their generic startup/transition animation |
| [20:52:01] | wagnerrp: | ikke-t: decent choice |
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| [22:00:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | dekarl, 10729 was a tracking ticket, backporting to 0.25 could happen, but isn't priority right now with 0.26 looming on the horizon. I think jya wanted that ticket to track multiple issues which are either known or as-of-yet unknown so I'm fine with leaving it open for now. |
| [22:02:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | dekarl, regarding the auto-zoom, my long-term plan was to have mythcommflag store the values it learned during flagging in order to auto-zoom during playback. mythcommflag is in the middle of a major rewrite though, so that code should probably wait until Beirdo finishes his gpucommflag rewrite that offloads processing onto the GPU. |
| [22:02:33] | dekarl: | I see, just wanted to help with cleanup |
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| [22:09:29] | fibres: | Evening All |
| [22:09:30] | fibres: | Can anyone tell me where the settings for playback profile are in the database? |
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| [22:11:29] | wagnerrp: | well if its not a development related question, the next one is what do you want to do that you think you need to tinker in the database? |
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| [22:17:30] | wagnerrp: | fibres: i ask as a quick table listing would have turned up the likely candidates displayprofiles and displayprofilegroups, and you asking that makes me concerned you may be getting yourself in over your head |
| [22:17:50] | wagnerrp: | when what you want to do is likely to be done just as well through the UI, or is simply not possible |
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| [22:23:04] | fibres: | It is where the setting of which profile is used on ech frontend I was looking for. I think I have found it in the settings table called DefaultVideoPlaybackProfile |
| [22:24:06] | wagnerrp: | right, but im asking what you are looking to do, that you want direct database access |
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| [22:25:15] | fibres: | The reason I am looking into the database is that on the system I am using Which is Dianemo an off branch of Linuxmce, every time I reboot the main server the network boot frontends return to the default playback profile of Normal instead of VDPAU slim. |
| [22:26:01] | wagnerrp: | thats odd... perhaps is the client screwed up in some manner such that it is not properly saving the setting back to the database? |
| [22:26:24] | wagnerrp: | you are running the one global database, correct? not a separate one on the client? |
| [22:26:59] | fibres: | The biggest problem is that the tv button goes direct to live tv, and on the Atom frontends it causes the tv to crash out if it is tuned to a HD channel and is a pain in ares to get to settings to try and change it! |
| [22:27:08] | fibres: | Yes one global database. |
| [22:27:32] | fibres: | It is saving back to database as I can see it set in the database now. |
| [22:27:49] | wagnerrp: | if you were running mythtv, i would say thats a bug that would need to be filed against Trac |
| [22:27:57] | wagnerrp: | but a fork of a fork, i would raise the issue with them |
| [22:28:37] | fibres: | I have but they have not had change to look at it properly so am digging in to try and find out myself. |
| [22:28:59] | fibres: | I believe in Dianemo theyt arte using a pretty stock mythtv 0.24 |
| [22:29:27] | wagnerrp: | any chance your startup script might be defining overrides on the command line, or in a override file? |
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| [22:29:38] | fibres: | Linuxmce use a custom version of frontend based on 0.22 with their own integrations but these are not there in dianemo |
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| [22:30:14] | fibres: | That is what I am wondering. As the settings seem to be in the database and then change there must be a script running somewhere on server reboot which is doing a database update. |
| [22:32:19] | wagnerrp: | see the --override-settings and --override-settings-file on the command line |
| [22:32:47] | wagnerrp: | they internally override options internally, for that specific run, but don't push the changes back to the database |
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| [22:35:06] | fibres: | Well the changes are being pushed back to the database as I can see them in database. I can also stop tv and reboot the frontend machine and the settings stay ok. Its only when I reboot the server which runs the backend it loses settings. |
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| [22:35:33] | wagnerrp: | the stock mythtv server will not do anything such as that iself |
| [22:35:47] | wagnerrp: | so its either something they changed, or some startup script |
| [22:38:23] | fibres: | I am guessing it is some startup script which is causing the problem so gonna go down that line. Gonna do a system reboot tomorrow and see what the setting in the database look like straight after a reboot before I have tried to launch and frontends. |
| [22:45:34] | fibres: | Well Im gonna goto bed and leave my server searching every file for "DefaultVideoPlaybackProfile" and see if it is being referenced in any scripts. Thanks for your help +wagnerrp. |
| [22:46:26] | wagnerrp: | note that the Atoms are generally capable of VDPAU Normal |
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| [22:46:35] | wagnerrp: | which uses better deinterlacers than VDPAU Slim |
| [22:48:23] | fibres: | Ok ill bear that in mind. I think I was having some issues on one with that. Ill give ti a whril though. |
| [22:48:25] | fibres: | Regards |
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| [22:57:56] | Beirdo: | squid, thou art a pain in mine arse. |
| [22:58:27] | Beirdo: | I can't get NTLM auth to passthrough a chain of proxies successfully |
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