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| [03:29:16] | neil2000: | Hi, new installation, upgraded but cannot configure 2 capture cards. Leadtek Winfast 2000 XP Expert & Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q What am I missing? |
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| [03:30:32] | [R]: | "cannot configure" doesn't really say anyhting |
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| [03:34:58] | neil2000: | OK. V4L and Mpeg2 probes failed when configuring the cards with MythTV Backend |
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| [04:29:26] | analogue: | anyone seen the 'recorded' table locked up like this for so long? http://pastebin.com/jYrmq0WD |
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| [12:45:28] | MartinCz: | Hi guys. Is there some hardware recommendation for the frontend and backend parts? Thanks |
| [12:50:52] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hardware |
| [12:52:39] | Twiggy2cents: | Its a little dated but that serves as a basis. If you want VDPAU for video output you need a newer Nvidia card. If you want to use the CPU's grunt for video decode you need a good core2 or higher. |
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| [17:37:24] | Twiggy2cents: | Ugh it is disgusting to see mobile phone rom "Devs" asking for donations because they modified the colors of a rom and repackaged it. |
| [17:38:31] | sphery: | ooh, I could start doing that with mythtv themes! |
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| [17:43:58] | Twiggy2cents: | Yeah it is crazy to think that you guys WONT accept donations and those people are begging for them |
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| [20:03:43] | DeviceZer0: | anyone here know if using freebsd for a backend with a hdhr prime would work? |
| [20:03:55] | wagnerrp: | should work |
| [20:04:01] | DeviceZer0: | Since its all done via netowork apposed to hardware |
| [20:04:10] | DeviceZer0: | nice..iirc you run fbsd wagnerrp ? |
| [20:04:14] | wagnerrp: | aye |
| [20:04:15] | DeviceZer0: | or at least on one of your backends |
| [20:04:20] | wagnerrp: | primary |
| [20:04:33] | DeviceZer0: | just out of curiosity whats your set?(fbsd version, tuner type, ect ect0 |
| [20:04:40] | DeviceZer0: | *setup |
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| [20:04:54] | DeviceZer0: | and any big "gotchas" |
| [20:05:14] | wagnerrp: | memory, you need gobs and gobs of memory |
| [20:05:23] | DeviceZer0: | yea? |
| [20:05:30] | DeviceZer0: | for zfs? or just in general? |
| [20:05:34] | wagnerrp: | zfs |
| [20:05:49] | DeviceZer0: | that box has 4gigs iirc |
| [20:06:06] | DeviceZer0: | and a AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor |
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| [20:06:58] | wagnerrp: | ive got... PII X2 560, 4GB DDR3, 9x750GB + 2x2TB + 2x320GB on an areca RAID card, and an old hdhomrun |
| [20:07:30] | DeviceZer0: | I'm just trying to weigh my options here. I was previously using a hdpvr but since getting my hdhr prime its all I use now. Always liked fbsd for servers....but I'm just worried if verizon ever starts flagging channels more then they do now..ill have to completely wipe the fbsd install and revert to linux + hdpvr |
| [20:07:37] | wagnerrp: | zfs eats up every last bit i have, then starts swapping idle programs and eats some more |
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| [20:07:53] | DeviceZer0: | ah |
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| [20:08:13] | wagnerrp: | i would continue running freebsd as my primary backend and file server, even if i had to run a separate slave backend for my tuners |
| [20:08:25] | DeviceZer0: | while I certainly would like to use zfs...im not 100% sure if I need to. THough using fbsd...and not using zfs seems weird hehe |
| [20:09:04] | DeviceZer0: | ah. I just cant really run more computers here..i could scrap together another puter to run linux+hdpvr...but not sure I would. |
| [20:09:17] | DeviceZer0: | as is my room is like 1000000 F lol |
| [20:09:17] | wagnerrp: | i do have an older AthX2 5050e, with another 2x320GB, and an HVR-1250 and 2xPVR-150s |
| [20:09:23] | wagnerrp: | running as a slave backend |
| [20:09:44] | wagnerrp: | your room? single room apt? |
| [20:09:50] | DeviceZer0: | hehe |
| [20:09:57] | sphery: | DeviceZer0: fios? have you seen: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/521514#521514 (only hearsay--I have no knowledge of whether it's true) |
| [20:10:09] | sphery: | but if so, sounds like you have a week |
| [20:10:12] | DeviceZer0: | no I live in a house with other people...but I keep my equipment in here since there isnt really any other place for them |
| [20:10:20] | wagnerrp: | basement? |
| [20:10:36] | DeviceZer0: | sphery, reading now.... |
| [20:11:41] | sphery: | not sure how much content will be flagged, but anything that is won't be accessible on the prime |
| [20:12:28] | DeviceZer0: | ugh |
| [20:12:44] | sphery: | the phonetic spelling of DRM? |
| [20:12:47] | DeviceZer0: | I knew this was to good to last |
| [20:13:00] | DeviceZer0: | dammit dammit dammit |
| [20:13:02] | DeviceZer0: | :( |
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| [20:14:09] | sphery: | just have to set up your bsd box fast, and really use it a lot for a week to get the enjoyment out of it before copy once is enabled :) |
| [20:14:23] | wagnerrp: | that reminds me, ive still got those two case designs i want to build, one of them for the basement |
| [20:14:26] | sphery: | then go back to GNU/Linux + HD-PVR |
| [20:14:38] | DeviceZer0: | lol |
| [20:14:59] | DeviceZer0: | I know...right when I'm seriously considering moving to fbsd....but I do thank you for pointing this out Spanky |
| [20:15:02] | DeviceZer0: | *sphery |
| [20:15:18] | DeviceZer0: | you saved me TONS of work. |
| [20:15:23] | sphery: | hehe, just heard verizon and prime and figured you might be interested |
| [20:15:41] | DeviceZer0: | for sure. |
| [20:15:53] | DeviceZer0: | gah. this really stinks. |
| [20:16:15] | sphery: | and I really wish I remembered enough of The Little Rascals to make an appropriate Spanky-related reference/joke |
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| [20:26:00] | ThisNewGuy_: | wagnerrp: I hope I'm not being a pain but I was wondering if you had a chance to look into the bindings issue I posted a few days ago? |
| [20:26:24] | wagnerrp: | not yet, still have the tracebacks open though |
| [20:26:38] | ThisNewGuy_: | k – thanks! |
| [20:31:59] | justinh: | Twiggy2cents: I used to accept donations. Though I did spend virtually *all* me free time doing themes. Still didn't take away the pain of the emails from assholes though |
| [20:33:48] | justinh: | I like to think I did a little bit more than just change colour schemes :P |
| [20:34:36] | justinh: | regarding droid ROMs.. I think it takes the biscuit when they're asking for donations & still using crappy 'free' hosting on megaupload-alike services |
| [20:35:06] | wagnerrp: | heh |
| [20:35:22] | wagnerrp: | its not even like semi-respectable download sites charge you |
| [20:35:47] | wagnerrp: | they just offer somewhat less anonyminity |
| [20:36:04] | agile: | are there any decent toots or guides online for developing a new theme? |
| [20:36:22] | wagnerrp: | not really |
| [20:36:42] | wagnerrp: | image editor and a text editor, all by hand |
| [20:36:51] | justinh: | toot toot! |
| [20:37:12] | agile: | look at the existing ones for examples and reference this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development I guess? |
| [20:37:27] | justinh: | or just a text editor if all you're doing is moving things & only using shapes :-) |
| [20:38:59] | justinh: | agile: yeah the wiki is a brilliant resource for theme working now. has been since the advent of mythui really |
| [20:39:27] | ** justinh still hasn't finished his 'new' theme. Heh ** | |
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| [21:16:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Fi . . . atch_live_TV does that make any sense to use with any file system you know of? |
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| [21:16:33] | sphery: | seems to be saying that the permissions on the directory on the parent file system on which you mount another file system affects the ability to write to the mounted file system? |
| [21:16:50] | wagnerrp: | ive never heard of such |
| [21:17:45] | sphery: | Beirdo mentioned (in PM) maybe automount might be borked by parent file system permissions? |
| [21:17:56] | wagnerrp: | unless perhaps its something as simple as mythtv reading the permissions of /some/directory (getting the underlying mountpoint) while everything else reads the permissions of /some/directory/ |
| [21:18:16] | wagnerrp: | mythtv reads no write permissions, and discards the definition |
| [21:19:02] | sphery: | or perhaps they're automounted file systems and we check perms before automount mounts them? |
| [21:19:10] | wagnerrp: | could be that |
| [21:19:23] | sphery: | (as on my systems, whether you check /some/dir or /some/dir/ you get the mounted file system permissions) |
| [21:20:03] | wagnerrp: | youve tried using the API calls? or are you talking 'ls'? |
| [21:20:06] | sphery: | if it's the "automount is too slow" thing, then it would mean either a proper dir structure couldn't be used (where your SGs never have mount point dirs in them) |
| [21:20:16] | sphery: | or it means the user is using the wrong structure, which is why it's failing |
| [21:20:19] | sphery: | I'd guess the latter |
| [21:20:27] | sphery: | I haven't tried the api calls... I can do that |
| [21:20:50] | wagnerrp: | actually, thats not the case at all |
| [21:20:56] | wagnerrp: | since the mountpoint is /media/data |
| [21:21:03] | wagnerrp: | while the recording directory is /media/data/mythtv/recordings |
| [21:21:08] | sphery: | my parent file system dir perms are very different (and much more locked down) than the mythtv recording file system perms |
| [21:21:12] | wagnerrp: | so my postulation is simply not possible |
| [21:21:39] | sphery: | nor is my "not using the proper dir structure" one... |
| [21:21:51] | sphery: | I can't see how he could get that result |
| [21:22:05] | sphery: | unless it's automount failing to work properly or fast enough |
| [21:22:15] | wagnerrp: | could be automount |
| [21:22:19] | dekarl: | is it on purpose that we offer nullvdpau and nullvaapi as display method in mythfrontend? from the commit message it appears to only be relevant for transcoding and the like. ("null" hinting at "no display") |
| [21:22:29] | wagnerrp: | except its mounted through fstab, so no |
| [21:22:52] | sphery: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10873 + http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/521734#521734 |
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| [21:23:37] | sphery: | Beirdo: know anything about nullvdpau ^^^ (dekarl's comment) |
| [21:23:56] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe... maybe he's running some other *nix |
| [21:24:11] | sphery: | custom-patched kernel file system drivers or something |
| [21:24:19] | sphery: | not posix, but negativix |
| [21:24:57] | Beirdo: | sphery: that was markk's crap I think |
| [21:25:06] | Beirdo: | my crap is different |
| [21:25:12] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [21:25:19] | sphery: | maybe we could just skip them when creating the list |
| [21:25:27] | Beirdo: | would be a good plan, I think |
| [21:25:28] | sphery: | yay, more changes to dead setup code :) |
| [21:27:35] | dekarl: | we are getting rid of frontend video display setup? |
| [21:28:15] | sphery: | eventually we have to--it's all non-mythui hack using qt-based widgets and non-themable |
| [21:28:54] | dekarl: | I don't mind if it gets replaced by autodetection |
| [21:28:59] | sphery: | which is why it's tiny if you use steppes (or any other high-base-resolution themes) |
| [21:29:21] | sphery: | steppes-narrow may actually be even smaller since it's high-base-res and generally displayed at low-real-res |
| [21:29:46] | sphery: | I'm just saying that the settings code itself if dead code |
| [21:29:53] | sphery: | we'll probably still have the options |
| [21:30:32] | sphery: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10092 |
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| [22:02:33] | Cardoe: | Any reason why since upgrading to 0.25, the built in run of mythfilldatabase no longer works? |
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| [22:03:01] | Cardoe: | Additionally, when mythfilldatabase is run it spams tons of "content-type missing in HTTP POST, defaulting to application/octet-stream". Which I'm guessing content-type isn't being set with its libcurl usage. |
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| [22:05:51] | sphery: | Cardoe: is this Gentoo? I know a lot of users of some distro had some problems with mythfilldatabase that magically disappeared after a system reboot |
| [22:06:01] | sphery: | No clue which distro that was, but it's a quick 30s test... |
| [22:06:39] | Cardoe: | I've rebooted since upgrading to 0.25 |
| [22:06:53] | sphery: | Qt 4.7.1? |
| [22:06:57] | Cardoe: | 4.8.2 |
| [22:07:02] | sphery: | ok, so not the Qt bug |
| [22:07:10] | Cardoe: | When I run it on the command line it works fine |
| [22:07:22] | Cardoe: | Its the built in one setup via mythtv-setup that no longer gets data. |
| [22:07:28] | sphery: | how about: sudo rm -r /tmp/mythtv_dd_cache_* |
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| [22:07:30] | sphery: | then re-run |
| [22:07:37] | sphery: | and/or check to make sure you have sufficient room in /tmp |
| [22:08:14] | Cardoe: | 511mb free in /tmp |
| [22:08:21] | sphery: | should be plenty... |
| [22:08:22] | Cardoe: | didn't have any /tmp/mythtv_* files |
| [22:08:32] | sphery: | running out of ideas |
| [22:08:45] | Cardoe: | if I ssh in and run it, its fine |
| [22:08:52] | sphery: | do you have logs from built-in runs? |
| [22:09:04] | sphery: | are those the ones with the http header messages? |
| [22:09:58] | Cardoe: | http://bpaste.net/show/36619/ |
| [22:10:10] | sphery: | fwiw, 0.25 is the first version of MythTV that no longer uses wget to retrive Schedules Direct data--it's now using Qt-based code |
| [22:10:37] | Cardoe: | the http header messages happen in the logs as well as on the command line |
| [22:11:03] | Cardoe: | the only only reason I know its not working is mythweb says on the status that there's only like 4 days of guide data and the last run didn't insert anything |
| [22:11:16] | sphery: | I'm guessing that paste was from a good run via ssh, not the built-in run |
| [22:12:16] | Cardoe: | nope that was a "bad" run |
| [22:12:26] | Cardoe: | My wife just complained that there was no guide data for tomorrow |
| [22:12:38] | Cardoe: | so I logged in and ran "mythfilldatabase" on the command line |
| [22:12:41] | Cardoe: | and there's guide data |
| [22:12:49] | Cardoe: | The logs say its working |
| [22:13:59] | Cardoe: | Its almost like it fills a temp database |
| [22:14:03] | Cardoe: | and never moves it over? |
| [22:14:05] | Cardoe: | I dunno |
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| [22:16:42] | Cardoe: | sphery: Could it be the LANG thing? |
| [22:16:43] | sphery: | seems to have worked based on the logs, except for: http://pastebin.com/PdJJJ3cN |
| [22:16:46] | Cardoe: | I guess I could try that |
| [22:16:54] | Cardoe: | because when I ssh in |
| [22:16:56] | Cardoe: | that's the difference |
| [22:17:05] | sphery: | you should set lang/lc vars, but that's unlikely to cause the problem... |
| [22:17:11] | sphery: | unless it's affecting parsing of the args? |
| [22:17:36] | Cardoe: | hmm the dates are wrong |
| [22:17:41] | Cardoe: | in what you pasted |
| [22:17:42] | Cardoe: | no? |
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| [22:18:08] | sphery: | Beirdo: at http://pastebin.com/PdJJJ3cN (excerpted from http://bpaste.net/raw/36619/ ), any ideas on why we'd be messing up the dates/days in mfdb schedules direct grab? |
| [22:18:30] | sphery: | a /lot/ of users keep reporting similar issues, but this is the first time I've noticed that we're grabbing wrong-day data |
| [22:18:37] | sphery: | don't know if it's us or SD |
| [22:19:02] | sphery: | Cardoe: can you try going to Schedules Direct website and doing a "Re-add all my lineups", please, and see if it helps |
| [22:19:08] | Cardoe: | sure |
| [22:19:27] | Cardoe: | I'll obviously have to wait ~24 hrs of whenever my next auto-schedule run is |
| [22:19:29] | sphery: | I'm guessing it won't, but it should help point back to our code versus SD service |
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| [22:20:09] | sphery: | it's possible, though, that your lineup "ends" on the 30th/31st for some weird reason and re-adding it will fix it |
| [22:21:33] | Cardoe: | makes sense |
| [22:22:19] | Cardoe: | well I'll report back after the next automatic run |
| [22:23:12] | sphery: | Cardoe: also, I'm guessing all will work properly (assuming your system has sufficient resources) if you change the auto-run mythfilldatabase to use --dd-grab-all (see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 49416#449416 )... That's something you probably want to do, anyway, unless your backend/DB server is underpowered |
| [22:27:27] | Cardoe: | ah ok |
| [22:27:29] | Cardoe: | I'll do that |
| [22:28:08] | sphery: | at least with that approach, we're just grabbing everything that SD has in one pull, so if our code messes up the dates when trying to grab individual days, it should still work |
| [22:28:33] | Cardoe: | Yeah that makes sense. |
| [22:28:41] | Cardoe: | the LANG warning btw |
| [22:28:47] | Cardoe: | It says to set LC_ALL |
| [22:28:57] | Cardoe: | Which is something you really shouldn't set |
| [22:29:08] | Cardoe: | Because that overrides everything and its not possible to override anything else. |
| [22:29:11] | sphery: | yeah, you can jus tset LC_CTYPE |
| [22:29:20] | Cardoe: | People with strange locales will have badness with that |
| [22:29:40] | sphery: | I just didn't want to explain how to properly deal with locale stuff when most people have everything set to one value |
| [22:29:50] | Cardoe: | The weird thing to me, if you run "locale" it claims they're all set right |
| [22:29:58] | sphery: | those who want different need to figure out how on their own |
| [22:30:09] | Beirdo: | sphery: no cllue |
| [22:30:10] | sphery: | right, but they're probably not set in the environment that starts mythbackend |
| [22:30:14] | sphery: | i.e. the init script |
| [22:30:18] | Cardoe: | true |
| [22:30:23] | Cardoe: | didn't think about that |
| [22:30:27] | Beirdo: | we'd have to look at the data we send and what we receive in great detail |
| [22:30:32] | sphery: | Beirdo: yeah, tracing it and not finding anything... I'm on DataDirectProcessor::DDPost() so far |
| [22:30:48] | Beirdo: | waot |
| [22:30:52] | Beirdo: | O dpm |
| [22:30:52] | sphery: | starting to think it's a date format issue in the postdata |
| [22:30:55] | Beirdo: | t see a [rpb;e, |
| [22:31:03] | Beirdo: | I don't see a problem |
| [22:31:04] | Beirdo: | rather |
| [22:31:10] | sphery: | except with your typing? ;) |
| [22:31:21] | Beirdo: | Grabbing data for Jul 22 offset 9 means Jul 31 |
| [22:31:28] | Beirdo: | yeah, other than that |
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| [22:31:50] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [22:32:08] | Beirdo: | except the data returned is off by 2 days?! |
| [22:32:08] | sphery: | does Qt::ISODate change in Qt 4.8? |
| [22:32:20] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [22:32:23] | sphery: | did they add the Z in there (if so, when we re-add it, it may bork things?) |
| [22:33:20] | sphery: | what did they do to the Qt docs in 4.8 |
| [22:33:22] | sphery: | can't find anything |
| [22:33:41] | sphery: | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/index.html ,,, is http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/classes.html really the class reference? |
| [22:34:09] | sphery: | the "one long vertical list" approach to design... much more useful than http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/classes.html |
| [22:34:18] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think it is |
| [22:34:19] | sphery: | after all, I /love/ to exercise my scroll wheel finger... |
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| [22:34:43] | Beirdo: | wah wah wah :) |
| [22:34:46] | sphery: | ah, I suppose backwards progress is still progress... |
| [22:35:59] | sphery: | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qt.html#DateFormat-enum in 4.6 and http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt.html#DateFormat-enum in 4.8 |
| [22:36:14] | sphery: | I can't tell if they're saying that the Z is now part of it... |
| [22:36:41] | sphery: | this would explain why it's working for some and not for others, though--dependent on Qt version (and just now appearing as more start using 4.8) |
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| [22:37:37] | sphery: | If the format is Qt::ISODate, the string format corresponds to the ISO 8601 extended specification for representations of dates and times, taking the form YYYY-MM-DDTHH:mm:ss[Z|[+|-]HH:mm], depending on the timeSpec() of the QDateTime. If the timeSpec() is Qt::UTC, Z will be appended to the string; if the timeSpec() is Qt::OffsetFromUTC the offset in hours and minutes from UTC will be appended to the string. |
| [22:37:43] | sphery: | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qdatetime.html |
| [22:37:43] | sphery: | grrr |
| [22:38:18] | sphery: | I guess I get to start a Qt 4.8 build tonight for testing |
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| [22:39:31] | Cardoe: | Well sounds like I gave you guys something fun to mull over. :-D |
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| [23:05:39] | Oleg_: | hi |
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| [23:25:02] | sphery: | Cardoe: yes, thanks for the report--and at a time when I had a chance to look it over... it's been on my todo list for a couple of weeks as I've seen some reports, but haven't had the time to look at code until now |
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| [23:57:59] | brandon-dacrib: | when I am in the video manager, what is the button I need to hit to update the update the metadata for a single video from imdb |
| [23:58:16] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt support pulling data from IMDB |
| [23:58:30] | wagnerrp: | neither does IMDB for that matter |
| [23:59:03] | brandon-dacrib: | where does the metadata for movies come from |
| [23:59:10] | wagnerrp: | themoviedb.org |
| [23:59:21] | sphery: | and the key for that is W (by default) |
| [23:59:45] | brandon-dacrib: | thats what I was looking for |
| [23:59:54] | sphery: | which makes sense for "update the update the metadata"--double u :) |
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