| Tuesday, July 17th, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:06] | jwh: | I get 7 days on terrestrial, 14 on satellite |
| [00:00:19] | jwh: | EIT is useful for when they change programming though |
| [00:00:51] | wagnerrp: | myth itself struggles with dynamic EIT in some scenarios |
| [00:00:53] | BFlo: | I like to plan my schedule down to the minute 8–10 days in advance so detailed data that far out is essential |
| [00:01:06] | jwh: | and also I certainly have a resentment for having to use the internet to receive broadcasts |
| [00:01:09] | jwh: | defeats the purpose entirely |
| [00:01:17] | wagnerrp: | schedules direct will give you 14 days of data |
| [00:01:35] | wagnerrp: | although the whole purpose of the DVR is that you DONT have to plan out your TV viewing |
| [00:01:42] | jwh: | yeah |
| [00:01:51] | wagnerrp: | you tell mythtv to record some series, or anything matching some custom power rule |
| [00:01:53] | jwh: | pick series/time, auto record |
| [00:02:00] | wagnerrp: | and then you watch the shows some time later at your leisure |
| [00:02:06] | k-man: | what sort of computer should I get for a frontend only, capable of playing any hd content i might throw at it? |
| [00:02:33] | jwh: | wagnerrp: does the myth xml stuff to series link too? |
| [00:02:37] | jwh: | s/to/do |
| [00:02:58] | wagnerrp: | gibberish |
| [00:03:00] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [00:03:06] | jwh: | so no? :P |
| [00:03:27] | wagnerrp: | by 'series link', are you talking about the MHEG 'red button' stuff? |
| [00:03:54] | wagnerrp: | and i dont know what "myth xml stuff" is |
| [00:04:07] | jwh: | nono, in the xmltv data some providers list linked timeslots |
| [00:04:39] | wagnerrp: | where if you record one show, it will automatically record several other shows? |
| [00:05:00] | jwh: | well, whatever is listed as being in the series |
| [00:05:00] | jwh: | yeah |
| [00:05:17] | wagnerrp: | a single record is a single record, it wont automatically pick up other stuff |
| [00:05:22] | jwh: | ah |
| [00:05:35] | wagnerrp: | however if youre talking about a record all of some series, and the original show had a programid specified |
| [00:05:51] | wagnerrp: | it will use the programid rather than the show title for series matching |
| [00:06:09] | jwh: | hm, is that always static? |
| [00:06:12] | BFlo: | Talking about the scheduling, I'm curious how well MythTV/Schedules Direct handles something like when an athletic event goes into overtime and pushes the programing back, does it adapt well or is it like everything else and the schedule is off by 10 minutes for the rest of the evening? |
| [00:07:01] | wagnerrp: | a programid is supposed to be static for the entire duration of the series (series being the american definition, and not just a single season) |
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| [00:07:31] | wagnerrp: | BFlo: there is no mechanism in mythtv to allow for that currently |
| [00:07:41] | jwh: | yeah, never looked into that |
| [00:07:47] | jwh: | wonder how many providers actually stick to it |
| [00:07:55] | wagnerrp: | in theory, if you were using EIT data, you could pick up the changes and follow it through the night |
| [00:08:01] | BFlo: | ok just a thought, it happened quite a bit on sunday evenings if the football games go long for me in the past |
| [00:08:09] | jwh: | the public broadcast ones are more likely to, as closed stuff has its own implementations |
| [00:08:13] | wagnerrp: | in practice, NA EIT data is crap, and is rarely updated in that manner anyway |
| [00:08:57] | wagnerrp: | it would be nice to do, but no real mechanism by which to do it |
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| [00:09:31] | wagnerrp: | years back, there was some external script that would scrape various sports sites to detect game overruns, and update the schedule accordingly |
| [00:09:31] | jwh: | I really need to learn how the DVB api works so I can try and decode some of these proprietary epg channels |
| [00:09:44] | wagnerrp: | im not aware if that still functions, either with the site or with mythtv |
| [00:10:46] | wagnerrp: | and dont try to mix SD or XMLTV data with EIT data on the same channel |
| [00:11:00] | wagnerrp: | the scheduler isnt designed for it, and it will just screw with duplicate matching |
| [00:11:33] | jwh: | one day I'll be able to use myth as my fulltime solution, still doing on-off testing though atm |
| [00:11:48] | jwh: | then I can test all these things out |
| [00:13:28] | jwh: | gonna get another dish up and hook up a seperate machine though to see if I can make it behave nicely with xbmc |
| [00:14:11] | wagnerrp: | get myth behaving with xbmc? |
| [00:14:24] | jwh: | yeah, pvr client still sucks |
| [00:14:43] | jwh: | checked latest, still not working properly |
| [00:14:55] | wagnerrp: | talking about dvrheadend? |
| [00:14:58] | jwh: | yeah |
| [00:15:24] | wagnerrp: | is that actually an independent project, or is pat of xbmc? |
| [00:15:28] | jwh: | got tvheadend as main tv stuff atm, wanna give myth a try |
| [00:15:34] | wagnerrp: | erm, tvheadend |
| [00:15:40] | jwh: | seperate for now, probably won't be merged for a while :( |
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| [00:16:11] | wagnerrp: | i really need to get a big chunk of the video library rewritten |
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| [00:16:53] | wagnerrp: | well, not a big chunk, but the file scanner |
| [00:16:55] | jwh: | I can't say I've ever used the frontend apart from testing live tv |
| [00:17:16] | wagnerrp: | i intended to get it in for 0.26, but the freeze came too quickly, and i had been waiting on other changes from other devs before i could start |
| [00:17:21] | jwh: | doh |
| [00:20:58] | BFlo: | anyone have experience getting the ios app synced? |
| [00:29:11] | wagnerrp: | you are just using the one machine currently? |
| [00:30:31] | wagnerrp: | bflo: you are just using the one combined frontend/backend? |
| [00:31:06] | BFlo: | yeah thats right, its all on one right now |
| [00:31:23] | BFlo: | and thats really the only one I will need a remote for, the rest will theoretically be laptops |
| [00:31:25] | wagnerrp: | in mythtv-setup, when you configured the IP, what IP did you use? |
| [00:31:37] | BFlo: | 10.0.1.219 |
| [00:32:08] | BFlo: | I'm able to access it remotely with my laptop |
| [00:32:11] | wagnerrp: | can you access a web server at 10.0.1.219:6544? |
| [00:32:48] | BFlo: | yes, the app seems to indicate it can reach the backend but it isn't able to go on and find the front end |
| [00:33:07] | BFlo: | i enabled the setting in the front end for LIRC remote something |
| [00:33:21] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if it uses the network control socket, or the new services api stuff for the frontend |
| [00:34:28] | BFlo: | well here is the remote's website http://mymote.wikispot.org/Front_Page |
| [00:34:37] | BFlo: | it doesn't have too much detail on the myth end |
| [00:35:25] | BFlo: | looks like socket interface |
| [00:35:34] | wagnerrp: | oh, thats not the ios app i was thinking of |
| [00:35:34] | BFlo: | it references this wiki page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Telnet |
| [00:35:53] | BFlo: | its called "MyMote" is there a better one though? I have no attachment to this one at all |
| [00:37:40] | wagnerrp: | http://fecitfacta.com/blog1/torc/ |
| [00:38:26] | wagnerrp: | it can be used as a remote |
| [00:38:38] | wagnerrp: | but is intended as a full frontend |
| [00:38:56] | BFlo: | I'd rather stick with free apps as much as possible since I'm still testing everything out and seeing how I like it |
| [00:39:54] | wagnerrp: | well those two things are designed for completely different purposes |
| [00:40:16] | BFlo: | what do you mean? |
| [00:40:34] | wagnerrp: | mymote is just a remote, on your iphone/ipad |
| [00:40:46] | wagnerrp: | torc for ios can be used to control another frontend, but it itself is a frontend |
| [00:41:14] | wagnerrp: | i.e. it is a playback device, with access to your recordings and videos |
| [00:41:34] | BFlo: | I really just want to use it as a remote, I'm not going to watch anything on my itouch |
| [00:41:54] | BFlo: | yeah yeah I understand, so you could theoretically pull something up on your iphone and watch it |
| [00:42:32] | wagnerrp: | intended for an ipad, im not aware how well it works on an iphone |
| [00:43:14] | BFlo: | ok that makes more sense, i could see it working well, mine is an itouch though |
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| [00:45:43] | wagnerrp: | the only problem is that none of those platforms can play the content as it is recorded by mythtv |
| [00:45:49] | wagnerrp: | which means transcoding |
| [00:46:12] | wagnerrp: | which mythtv does on-the-fly for those clients by consuming large amounts of CPU power on the backend |
| [00:47:01] | BFlo: | ok but what if I want to use the itouch just as a controller, as in literally I can turn the volume up/down or change the channel, that wouldn't involve CPU power would it? Just execution of commands? |
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| [01:02:19] | SteveGoodey: | wagnerrp: Any thoughts on/have you seen this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter |
| [01:07:54] | wagnerrp: | i saw it earlier, but didnt see any real explanation of what it is capable of |
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| [02:23:01] | bill6502: | Beirdo: Was your comment on http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-07-16 at 17:31:28 about me (Bill Meek) re: "posting the version info" tongue-in-cheek? There is a version.txt attached to #10867. |
| [02:23:01] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10867 ** | |
| [02:24:44] | Twiggy2cents: | I really wish the green arrow in "Arrow" was the oliver queen from smallville... |
| [02:26:07] | Beirdo: | bill6502: some of the tickets you've put up have none, or maybe it was someone else, but your name popped up somehow :) |
| [02:26:24] | Beirdo: | anyways, I think some people just think we'll remember what version they had last time |
| [02:26:36] | Beirdo: | and believe me... with this many tickets, not likely :) |
| [02:26:48] | Twiggy2cents: | I just assume you guys know I am running .12 |
| [02:26:52] | Twiggy2cents: | :-P |
| [02:27:07] | Beirdo: | bill6502: not to worry, I just need more coffee :) |
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| [02:27:53] | Beirdo: | BTW, it's especially necessary with backtraces :) |
| [02:29:06] | Beirdo: | bill6502: and I think the wrong name popped into my head. My apologies |
| [02:30:51] | Beirdo: | bill6502: but... since you're here :) |
| [02:30:57] | bill6502: | Beirdo: NP, FYI re 10867, mythshutdown --lock --nodblog -v refcount produces interesting results. |
| [02:31:09] | Beirdo: | no idea on the Real-time signal 0 |
| [02:31:22] | Beirdo: | that spews like crazy :) |
| [02:32:28] | bill6502: | thats what I get too, but not on my production box which is holding at: v0.26-pre-547-g970d9b1 |
| [02:32:56] | Beirdo: | I've never once seen the Real-time signal 0, but danielk has |
| [02:33:20] | Beirdo: | I'm wondering just what the heck its current issue is. |
| [02:33:54] | wagnerrp: | are we going to tag a beta for the freeze? |
| [02:33:59] | Beirdo: | the latest backtrace is in the database handling... |
| [02:34:22] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: hmm, yeah, good question. |
| [02:35:04] | Twiggy2cents: | I have an issue with running pm-suspend from remote. I had this issue on another computer and I dont remember what I did. It seems that sudo doesnt like working right with out a pts number and when you start irexec at boot it doesnt have one., |
| [02:35:12] | Twiggy2cents: | Any ideas on what to do? |
| [02:35:35] | Beirdo: | ummm, nope |
| [02:35:44] | Beirdo: | I don't suspend my boxes. |
| [02:36:27] | [R]: | Twiggy2cents: its passwordless? |
| [02:36:38] | Twiggy2cents: | For that command |
| [02:37:23] | Twiggy2cents: | It is set up to allow my user to execute sudo pm-suspend with no password but it only works if I start irexec from a terminal so it is tied to a pts session |
| [02:38:09] | Twiggy2cents: | I wouldnt worrry about suspending my dedicated frontends if I didnt think bad things would happen from people sitting on remotes and stuff like that. |
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| [04:23:11] | wagnerrp: | im building a new kernel for my laptop, running 'make oldconfig' |
| [04:23:20] | wagnerrp: | theres an option DRM_LOAD_EDID_FIRMWARE |
| [04:23:34] | wagnerrp: | allowing one to force an EDID block, rather than probing for it |
| [04:23:59] | wagnerrp: | ... does that mean all other graphics drivers now support forcing an edid block? not just nvidia? |
| [04:24:13] | wagnerrp: | or only the ones built into the kernel? |
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| [05:41:30] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [05:41:50] | Beirdo: | Does Steven Adeff ever show his face on IRC? |
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| [13:12:06] | wagnerrp: | huh... |
| [13:12:09] | wagnerrp: | !seen xand |
| [13:12:09] | MythLogBot: | xand was last seen 288 days 1 hour 34 minutes 5 seconds ago |
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| [18:00:37] | wagnerrp: | SteveGoodey: this one was cute... http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fUiFxeLV |
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| [18:29:03] | ThisNewGuy: | hey all – Can anyone help me debug why transcoding produces empty files for both my HD-PVR and HDHR recordings? |
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| [18:47:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | ThisNewGuy, master or 0.25? both are semi-broken at the moment. |
| [18:51:43] | ThisNewGuy: | Captain_Murdoch: master – I saw that some patches were recently posted which made me think that some devs must have it working at least partially so maybe it's an issue with my system |
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| [18:59:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | it's broken in master. I have 2 fixes lined up to go in tonight and a 3rd that I hope to get in tonight as well. |
| [19:00:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | same fixes will also go into 0.25 fixes as well. |
| [19:01:32] | ThisNewGuy: | Awesome! Can't wait! |
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| [19:41:32] | zarbo: | anyone who can help with keymapping issues? |
| [19:43:04] | zarbo: | flat forehead with lircrc — gets read, nothing happens in the app |
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| [19:49:06] | jafa: | hi guys, vlc doesn't like something about the mythtv upnp DMS... will file a bug against vlc, but short term, what is the recommended way to disable mythtv upnp DMS? |
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| [19:50:51] | tgm4883: | jafa, probably using the --noupnp option |
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| [19:52:46] | jafa: | using mint linux (based on ubuntu which switched everything over to upstart)... i don't see a config file for mythbackend startup options |
| [19:54:49] | jafa: | oh, found it |
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| [19:56:22] | jafa: | /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf |
| [19:56:39] | jafa: | confirmed, upnp disabled, thanks for your help! |
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| [20:04:40] | wagnerrp: | i bet that was an IP reset... |
| [20:04:53] | zarbo: | ouch. |
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| [20:05:44] | wagnerrp: | oddly just on the IP im using for irc... go figure... |
| [20:06:31] | zarbo: | help. debugged keypresses all the way up to "irw" have maps in ~/.mythtv/lircrc ... log says file is being read ... no key response in myth |
| [20:06:43] | zarbo: | checked for bugs |
| [20:06:59] | wagnerrp: | `irw` is reporting keypresses? |
| [20:07:04] | zarbo: | yes |
| [20:07:13] | wagnerrp: | can i see an example of what it is outputting? |
| [20:07:18] | wagnerrp: | just one line |
| [20:07:49] | zarbo: | 00000014d7120000 00 '6' ati_remote_wonder_rf |
| [20:08:06] | wagnerrp: | just checking... |
| [20:08:15] | zarbo: | understood |
| [20:08:34] | wagnerrp: | a not insignificant number of people open a terminal, run irw, press buttons on their remote, and see keypresses come up in the terminal |
| [20:08:50] | zarbo: | ha. |
| [20:08:52] | wagnerrp: | only its not anything from irw, theyre just typing into their terminal with their remote |
| [20:09:03] | zarbo: | blacklisted ati_remote |
| [20:09:33] | zarbo: | myth reads the lircrc file in the frontend. turned on logging. |
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| [20:10:22] | zarbo: | 2012-07–17 13:09:54.519390 I [30054/30054] CoreContext lirc.cpp:308 (Init) – LIRC: Successfully initialized '/dev/lircd' using '/home/myth/.mythtv/lircrc' config |
| [20:10:54] | wagnerrp: | doh! |
| [20:11:03] | zarbo: | doh? |
| [20:11:04] | wagnerrp: | its not 'checkup.dyndns.org', its 'checkip.dyndns.org' |
| [20:11:13] | zarbo: | ah. |
| [20:11:16] | wagnerrp: | "why is wget not returning anything?" |
| [20:12:29] | wagnerrp: | did godaddy drop Patrick? theyve got some guy on their front page now |
| [20:13:49] | EvilGuru: | When watching BBC HD I see an MP2 and AC3 2Ch audio tracks, how does mythtv decide which one to use? |
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| [20:52:40] | wizbit: | i still cannot get my videos to show in mythweb |
| [20:52:50] | wizbit: | i can see a directory tree, but thats it |
| [20:52:54] | wizbit: | nothing happens when i click on it |
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| [21:24:25] | zarbo: | #quit |
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| [22:48:52] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: you'll be happy to know that Python is growing on me. :) |
| [22:49:43] | Beirdo: | Still hate the crappy pseudo-threading, but such is life. Python's not alone on that count. |
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