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Saturday, July 14th, 2012, 00:07 UTC
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[02:18:34] Beirdo: yay for DirecTV
[02:19:03] Beirdo: Guitar Center sponsors a show of intimate concerts...
[02:19:27] Beirdo: today they had Megadeth, and I got it scheduled about 15min before it started :)
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[04:30:43] saintdev: I wanted to test HLS streaming, when I go to install JW player from the backend, it asks for a username/password. What user/password would this be?
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[04:44:25] tt8888: hi all, has anyone encountered a problem where whilst you are watching live tv, a recording wanted to start, and you select "record it, and watch it whist it is recording" but it didn't record?
[04:44:48] tt8888: i don't even know where to begin debugging this one ..
[04:45:03] tt8888: logs doesn't say anything ..
[04:45:20] [R]: are you sure you selected the correct option?
[04:45:26] wagnerrp: could you pastebin them?
[04:45:50] tt8888: %[R] – yep .. selected the correct option
[04:46:06] tt8888: running 12.04 mythbuntu but with latest mythtv
[04:46:15] tt8888: before 0.25 upgrade it was working fine
[04:46:33] tt8888: after 0.25 .. it is really funny
[04:46:47] tt8888: checking logs to find a place to pastebin then .. hangon
[04:53:09] tt8888: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090984/
[04:53:25] tt8888: this is where it starts.. from ASK_RECORDING ...
[04:53:36] tt8888: what I wanted to record is "Once Upon A Time"
[04:54:49] tt8888: then ...
[04:55:27] tt8888: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090986/
[04:57:00] tt8888: i'm not sure if I'm reading the log right ... :(
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[05:05:09] tt8888: hmmm .. it might be related to this?
[05:05:10] tt8888: Permalink
[05:05:33] tt8888: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/522016#522016
[05:07:20] tt8888: seems livetv -> scheduler is a little broken in 0.25
[05:11:45] tt8888: it could explain why I cant see the recording if it had gone into livetv group ... this would explain my problem I reckon
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[05:15:40] tt8888: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10489 – Here's the bug... oh darn its milestone at 0.26 :(
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[05:21:04] [R]: tt8888: it may wind up getting backported
[05:22:14] tt8888: lets hope so, priority is set to major atm .. but danielk has a blocker on his hand for 0.26 ...
[05:22:26] tt8888: maybe I'm reading 2 much into it either ..
[05:22:33] [R]: plus 26 should be out soon anyway
[05:24:20] tt8888: yep ... not complaining ...
[05:24:38] Sharky112065: That will be a short time between releases.
[05:25:01] Sharky112065: mythtv-firefox
[05:25:52] wagnerrp: the plan several years ago with the release of 0.22 was for a ~6mo average release cycle
[05:26:06] wagnerrp: that fell apart after 0.24
[05:26:28] wagnerrp: so, were trying it again, with a slight variation
[05:26:35] wagnerrp: longer feature release, shorter cleanup release
[05:27:07] [R]: that's what she said
[05:27:14] tt8888: so 0.25.1, 0.25.2 ... etc ...
[05:27:40] Beirdo: no
[05:27:43] wagnerrp: i just work here
[05:27:45] Beirdo: 0.26 :)
[05:27:53] tt8888: righto ..
[05:28:40] ertyu-m: even fixes, odd features?
[05:28:55] wagnerrp: odd features dont go into a -fixes branch
[05:29:04] Beirdo: there's a chance that fixes will be backported, but don't count on it this weekend
[05:29:09] [R]: whats an odd feature?
[05:29:11] [R]: lol
[05:29:21] wagnerrp: the opposite of an even feature
[05:29:24] [R]: lol
[05:29:30] ertyu-m: one that only one person uses
[05:29:32] Beirdo: we are going into feature freeze after this weekend, so there will be some rush to get stuff in, likely
[05:29:40] wagnerrp: is that sunday night?
[05:29:47] [R]: Beirdo: THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
[05:29:52] Beirdo: I believe that's the date set, yes
[05:30:09] wagnerrp: two days... i should be able to get this stuff in by then
[05:30:24] wagnerrp: need to get some caffeine and stop watching reruns
[05:30:30] Beirdo: heheh
[05:31:21] tt8888: [R] lol
[05:31:43] tt8888: here's another q .. how can I find out the exit status of comm flags?
[05:31:59] wagnerrp: what is the status?
[05:32:00] tt8888: i've been having failed exit status 140
[05:32:14] [R]: 140 is th exit status..
[05:32:20] [R]: thats hwo you find it out
[05:32:36] tt8888: instead of asking for answers I wanna be more self sustain and find the answer meself
[05:32:54] wagnerrp: mythtv/libs/libmythbase/exitcodes.h
[05:32:55] tt8888: the failed status is 140 but how can I tell what it meant
[05:32:55] Beirdo: then stop asking :)
[05:33:04] tt8888: thanks wagnerrp
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[05:37:13] ** wagnerrp wishes these people would stop talking about their bash scripts to generate ebuilds **
[05:41:36] Beirdo: yeah, they should be using apt-get :)
[05:45:28] Beirdo: time to compile on the frontend to work on some mythweather
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[06:01:07] Beirdo: argh, did someone bump the schema AGAIN?
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[06:02:00] wagnerrp: i had a schema bump i was thinking about doing last night
[06:02:03] wagnerrp: cant recall what it was
[06:02:36] wagnerrp: it wasnt a real schema bump, but something to change settings around
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[06:06:43] Beirdo: oh crap.
[06:06:49] Beirdo: it's a plugin schema change
[06:06:52] Beirdo: heh
[06:07:15] Beirdo: we need something on the frontend while it runs the db backup
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[06:07:50] Beirdo: music schema to be exack
[06:08:30] Beirdo: so you turned on link-local now?
[06:09:22] wagnerrp: yeah, jya mentioned it as an option a while back as a quick way to make the airplay stuff work
[06:09:37] Beirdo: heh
[06:09:43] wagnerrp: since that only works if you are using link-local
[06:09:51] wagnerrp: it cannot use the normal addresses
[06:09:52] ** Beirdo mumbles "I told ya so" very quietly **
[06:09:53] Beirdo: heh
[06:10:01] Beirdo: airplay is idiotic
[06:10:14] Beirdo: I knew we'd find something that needed link-local ;)
[06:10:35] wagnerrp: why it cant use normal networking mechanisms, i have no idea
[06:10:48] Beirdo: beats me
[06:11:29] wagnerrp: just a stop-gap until i get the code into the backend protocol to remove the ip address requirement all together
[06:12:30] wagnerrp: as explained on the mailing list, statically define the master backend by whatever means
[06:12:42] wagnerrp: and use the master backend to track where backends and frontends exist
[06:12:47] wagnerrp: rather than doing lookups through the database
[06:13:50] wagnerrp: we dont have any kind of housekeeper in the frontend do we?
[06:14:00] Beirdo: not that I know of
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[06:14:06] Beirdo: it's a slob like me
[06:15:21] wagnerrp: i think i might split that out into one of the libraries, make it modular, and shove smolt in there
[06:16:19] Beirdo: heh
[06:16:29] Beirdo: should fix the server side too sometime somehow
[06:16:39] wagnerrp: well thats the idea
[06:16:50] wagnerrp: shove it into the housekeeper, in both the frontend and backend
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[06:17:15] Beirdo: nrecoverable error parsing script output
[06:17:18] Beirdo: blast it
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[07:11:26] Beirdo: OK, still need to unbork the animated gif support
[07:23:42] jya: Beirdo: the issue is more to do with how we're using Bonjour. We tell Bonjour to advertise a service. It does so on all interfaces. So the client chooses one, except that we're not listening at those addresses
[07:24:36] jya: now maybe the Bonjour call could be changed to specifically only advertise on addresses we listen to instead of all…
[07:29:22] jya: wagnerrp: Shouldn't the allowLinkLocal flag also used for IPv4 ?
[07:30:09] wagnerrp: it does
[07:30:35] wagnerrp: line 145
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[07:31:00] jya: I was looking at line 173
[07:32:50] wagnerrp: the old behavior where everything is accepted if nothing is defined still holds
[07:32:56] wagnerrp: even if linklocal is otherwise unchecked
[07:33:02] jya: ok.
[07:34:25] jya: I'll have a more thorough review later
[07:34:50] wagnerrp: the logic should all be the same as before
[07:35:09] wagnerrp: just with a short circuit that allows linklocal if the option is true
[07:35:28] wagnerrp: (assuming i didnt screw up the massive if...elseif... somewhere)
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[07:51:47] jya: I thought that if nothing was defined in IPv6 field before, it would just disable IPv6 ?
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[07:52:12] wagnerrp: no, if either field, is undefined, it uses everything
[07:52:15] jya: I'm sure there's a way to configure bonjour to advertise on the same interface the services are listening on...
[07:52:51] jya: by everything, you mean all non RFC1918 addresses and IPv6 link-local...
[07:53:05] jya: s/non/non routable/
[07:53:24] wagnerrp: any "private" ipv4 addresses (including link local), or anything ipv6
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[10:00:20] wizbit: anybody use this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHomeRun
[10:00:25] wizbit: looks tempting
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[10:02:14] wizbit: i could buy one of those then install freebsd on my server :D
[10:04:44] wizbit: looks like that have IR built in :D
[10:04:47] wizbit: *they
[10:04:53] ** wizbit ponders **
[10:05:09] wizbit: maybe i should wait for a DVB-T2 dual tuner versin
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[15:43:41] wagnerrp: Beirdo: you want to switch mythgallery over to internal system calls (rather than shell calls) lest that guy get pissy?
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[15:49:44] aramus: Hi there I was wondering if anyone knows of a stable myth plugin for xbmc
[15:51:00] wagnerrp: better to ask in #xbmc
[15:51:27] aramus: will do thank you sir
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[16:12:19] Beirdo: wagnerrp: whatcha talking about?
[16:12:54] wagnerrp: remember the shell escaping guy, for image raws or something
[16:13:22] wagnerrp: "no, were not going to shell escape because thats just stupid. you get rid of the shell, and then there is no reason to escape"
[16:14:14] wizbit: wagnerrp: will you be able to browse the main menu in a future mythtv release?
[16:14:25] wagnerrp: browse the main menu?
[16:14:30] wizbit: yep
[16:14:34] wizbit: whilst watching live tv
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[16:14:39] wizbit: or a recording . video
[16:14:53] wizbit: i hate quitting what im watching to browse main menu
[16:15:00] wagnerrp: with a proper video widget, i suppose it would be possible
[16:15:06] wizbit: surely we have the tech tech technology
[16:15:12] wizbit: tech tech tech technolody
[16:15:43] wizbit: watch tv — quit tv to turn light off --- watch tv again
[16:15:45] wizbit: annoying
[16:15:59] wizbit: watch tv --- check weather --- watch tv again
[16:16:33] wizbit: also tv lacks a smooth gliding pointer
[16:16:42] wizbit: but it looks and feels a lot better
[16:17:14] Beirdo: wagnerrp: ah. He can bite me :)
[16:18:15] wizbit: im using that new theme what begins with 's'
[16:18:18] wizbit: i forget its name
[16:19:58] wizbit: arghh its note even listed on mytthv website
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[16:21:20] wagnerrp: hotmail.combr... somehow i dont think that person will ever get their wiki confirmation email
[16:21:40] wizbit: Steppes
[16:21:42] wizbit: thats the one
[16:21:46] wizbit: not bad
[16:22:10] wizbit: can Steppes be used with a movie fanart background? or does that work only only certain themes?
[16:22:44] wizbit: steppes and retro make mythtv look nice again :D
[16:24:07] wizbit: https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Steppes/blob . . . ckground.png
[16:24:15] wizbit: maybe i can symlink that to fanart directory
[16:25:08] AndChat|465716: Looking to buy a new video card, is the Asus fan less GT430 the best card for mythtv going these days?
[16:25:45] AndChat|465716: Requirements are audio over HDMI, bluray rip playback and ota HDTV
[16:25:51] wizbit: AndChat|465716: choose a class D card
[16:26:04] wizbit: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[16:26:15] wizbit: C i mean
[16:26:20] Sharky112065: AndChat|465716: I just bought the pny GT430 with fan, and it seems to be working great
[16:26:23] AndChat|465716: So the gt520 instead? Or are there others
[16:27:19] AndChat|465716: Sharky112065: are you doing audio over HDMI? I remember reading some people had issues with that with the pony card
[16:27:20] Sharky112065: AndChat|465716: I cannot hear the fan
[16:27:39] AndChat|465716: PNY*
[16:28:17] Sharky112065: AndChat|465716: yes audio over HDMI
[16:28:23] wagnerrp: pony card?
[16:28:29] wagnerrp: oh, pny
[16:28:32] Sharky112065: AndChat|465716: I disabled on board sound
[16:30:07] Sharky112065: I use Debian Squeeze, so I had to use the backport kernel and driver, which worked out, because I needed it anyway for lirc to work. (using lirc from Wheezy repo)
[16:31:20] Sharky112065: anyway bbl, got to replace my air conditioner before the heat hits this afternoon.
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[16:50:52] wizbit: [pfsense.firewall] --- [slackware.server] --- [freebsd.nas]
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[16:50:53] wizbit: or
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[16:51:12] wizbit: [pfsense.firewall] --- [freebsd.server] --- [hdhomerun]
[16:51:16] ** wizbit ponders **
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[17:17:44] wizbit: im still using the same mythtv recordings drive since i first used mythtv
[17:17:54] wizbit: considering how much it gets used, its doing well
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[22:16:48] k-man: is it possible add custom rules to a recording schedule in mythweb? i'm doing a channel record on a show called Louie, but turns out there is 2 shows with that name. i want to add a rule like "only between these hours"
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[22:19:12] dekarl: k-man, you mean like the "prime time" filter? should be possible
[22:19:38] k-man: oh, is there a prime time filter?
[22:20:00] dekarl: but you have to define the rule somewhere before you can check the filter :)
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[22:20:27] k-man: dekarl, ah i see
[22:20:55] k-man: in mythweb, it seems as though you can't convert a channel record into a custom record, i think i just have to make a new rule
[22:22:43] k-man: oh can i create my own filters?
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[22:23:26] dekarl: I think so, but I have not yet looked into *how* to do it
[22:24:11] k-man: the showing i want is essentially in NOT primetime
[22:24:14] k-man: hmmm
[22:26:06] dekarl: maybe create a power rule "program.title = 'Nova' AND HOUR(program.starttime) < 19" (adapted from the prime time power example)
[22:26:25] dekarl: ^- obviously needs some localtime <-> UTC foo
[22:27:18] k-man: ah – ok
[22:27:56] dekarl: hmm, only if you are on master/0.26 though
[22:30:13] k-man: dekarl, yeah, i think .25 is still on local time
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[22:30:28] k-man: anyway, your power search idea is the go
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[22:32:10] k-man: gah, managed to exit it without saving
[22:33:33] k-man: oh wow, the ui is nasty, if you press down off the bottom of the ui, it loses everything
[22:39:27] k-man: so when i create a new rule, it seems to always save it as a rule example rather than a real rule
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[22:45:16] k-man: oh, i was hitting "store" instead of record
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[22:57:09] rumblebumble: anyone have any experience setting up a XFS on a system with a real raid card. I wanted to split my raid drive up into 2 partitions. I followed the mythtv optimize documentation and was successful mounting my first partition. The second partition does not seem to want to mount properly with the optimized settings. If I remove the settings from my fstab it will mount but preforms quite poorly. Any suggestions?
[22:59:23] rumblebumble: So I guess I guys I am wondering if anyone wants to chat about xfs
[23:00:09] k-man: rumblebumble, try #xfs
[23:00:23] rumblebumble: I will
[23:00:33] rumblebumble: k-man, Thanks
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[23:13:35] lapion: who had the idea to let mythtranscode write the whole output to memory before writing it to disk ?
[23:14:41] lapion: That way it is not possible to transcode big files
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