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| [00:19:10] | Sharky112065: | YES YES YES YESSSSSSSS! |
| [00:19:27] | Sharky112065: | commit 25dd4ce330 is good.. no lockups woot. |
| [00:19:33] | Sharky112065: | it was the code |
| [00:19:56] | Sharky112065: | So ill be testing each commit and maybe I can submit a ticket then |
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| [01:38:06] | ViperSBT: | Twiggy2Cents – The audio tester in Mythfrontend works great and I get perfect audio... But it only works for videos and such... If I go into Music then I get the error and nothing plays.... |
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| [02:07:16] | Sharky112065: | Found it! commit 5eb97790f3 Front end unresponsive to backend right after recordings finish. Also backend cannot be stopped without kill -9. I will submit a ticket and the logs for both frontend and backend. I will revert to 5b843c1287. |
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| [03:06:10] | Sharky112065: | OK, 14 simultanius HD recordings and all are good. No front end lock up at the end of recordings. |
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| [03:21:59] | Sharky112065: | Time for a few drinks :p |
| [03:23:36] | ertyu-m: | I hope your persistence paid off |
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| [04:32:32] | Sharky112065: | ertyu-m: looks like it may have. I submitted a ticket, so hopefully they will fix it soon. Meanwhile at least I have a version that can be used. |
| [04:37:03] | Beirdo: | bored bored bored. |
| [04:39:17] | ertyu-m: | take a ticket, the line for the bored is long |
| [04:39:33] | Beirdo: | I have enough tickets already, man. :) |
| [04:40:05] | Beirdo: | ah man, 16 of them? |
| [04:40:14] | ertyu-m: | that's it? |
| [04:40:31] | lapion: | Is it just on my system or is mythtranscode thoroughly broken ? |
| [04:47:38] | Beirdo: | that's all that's in MY queueu |
| [04:47:46] | Beirdo: | there are plenty of others |
| [04:53:19] | ertyu-m: | what are you doing here, get back to work |
| [04:56:15] | Beirdo: | pffffft |
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| [05:09:06] | Beirdo: | bah |
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| [05:14:09] | oobe: | if I were to say something like "Guess what everybody?" I would hope this channel flooded with all 154 current users various ideas as to what I may be referring. |
| [05:14:19] | oobe: | and then I would say "nothing" |
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| [05:14:28] | ** Beirdo gets the trout ** | |
| [05:14:51] | oobe: | hi Beirdo |
| [05:17:20] | Beirdo: | heya |
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| [05:18:12] | PaulWay[w]: | Hi all! |
| [05:19:00] | Beirdo: | Let's face it. SOAP is painfull. It's a dumb idea, the only reason you should ever consider using SOAP is if someone holds a gun to your head or pay you a lot of money for it. |
| [05:19:04] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [05:19:05] | Beirdo: | soooo true |
| [05:19:43] | PaulWay[w]: | I've recently upgraded to 0.25 and I'm now getting timeouts when running anything – error messages like "readStringList: Error, timed out after 7000 ms" and "The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty." |
| [05:19:51] | PaulWay[w]: | Beirdo: with you on that. |
| [05:20:21] | PaulWay[w]: | Stupid Object Access Protocol is my expansion for it. And don't even start me on the incompatible libraries. |
| [05:20:54] | ** ertyu-m takes the engineering approach, I don't care how elegant or awful, it just needs to work right ** | |
| [05:21:11] | Beirdo: | hehe, I have a more colorful word for the S, but then again, I'd have to kick myself from the channel for swearing |
| [05:22:38] | Beirdo: | trying to unbork the stupid national weather service scripts |
| [05:22:58] | Beirdo: | but they are using gzip encoding now, and SOAP::Lite can't do it |
| [05:23:04] | Beirdo: | crappy module |
| [05:23:25] | Beirdo: | so now I need to figure out how to rework this crap to use a different SOAP module in Perl. |
| [05:25:25] | PaulWay[w]: | Yeah – that stuff did my head in. |
| [05:26:09] | ertyu-m: | perl, eww |
| [05:29:30] | Beirdo: | great, now it's not complaining, but also not getting data? |
| [05:29:46] | PaulWay[w]: | Probably because the headers are different. |
| [05:30:06] | PaulWay[w]: | I dunno – I've tried to wipe that bit of my memory. |
| [05:31:19] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [05:31:22] | Beirdo: | what a pain |
| [05:31:47] | PaulWay[w]: | It's stupid. |
| [05:32:24] | PaulWay[w]: | I've seen a SOAP source that was sensitive to the order of the header tags. |
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| [06:13:04] | Beirdo: | this makes me want to hurl my macbook across the room |
| [06:13:12] | Beirdo: | but that would be a waste of good money |
| [06:13:56] | PaulWay[w]: | Let me distract you with a simple one (hopefully) – any ideas what I might have done wrong with an upgrade to 0.25 now that there seems to be a seven second pause and timeout in communicating with the backend? |
| [06:14:53] | Beirdo: | likely has to do with the IPs |
| [06:15:51] | PaulWay[w]: | Yeah – I'd heard it was something to do with IPv6? |
| [06:16:32] | PaulWay[w]: | But the backend is configured with a local, non-127* for IPv4 and a non-::1 address for IPv6... |
| [06:16:46] | Beirdo: | I think it's been covered many times over in the mailing list... |
| [06:17:06] | Beirdo: | you need to run the mythtv-setup on the frontend to set its IP too I think |
| [06:18:24] | PaulWay[w]: | OK, so what about getting the same error from mythbackend --printsched on the backend? |
| [06:18:34] | PaulWay[w]: | http://fpaste.org/y5uN/ is my netstat -tulpn | grep mythbackend |
| [06:19:07] | PaulWay[w]: | I have tried googling, but I didn't find anything that seemed like the obvious answer. |
| [06:19:15] | PaulWay[w]: | Lots of stuff from 2009 and 2007 and so forth... |
| [06:19:27] | PaulWay[w]: | Sorry for being a pain and FAQing. |
| [06:20:10] | PaulWay[w]: | Oh, no, it's probably iptables... |
| [06:20:26] | PaulWay[w]: | No, that rule is there... |
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| [06:28:09] | Beirdo: | GAH |
| [06:28:14] | Beirdo: | GAH GAH GAH |
| [06:28:23] | Beirdo: | we were missing the unit type |
| [06:28:49] | PaulWay[w]: | Ouch. |
| [06:33:08] | Beirdo: | WOOHOO |
| [06:33:22] | Beirdo: | OK, now what else is in that directory and needs retesting/... |
| [06:34:31] | PaulWay[w]: | Nice work there. Good save on the not throwing the laptop across the room. |
| [06:34:34] | PaulWay[w]: | :-) |
| [06:34:49] | Beirdo: | some of this stuff is so infuriating |
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| [06:53:15] | Beirdo: | Ticket closed. |
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| [07:05:11] | Beirdo: | and a nuvexport ticket fixed |
| [07:05:59] | PaulWay[w]: | Rocking. |
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| [07:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Looking at the settings table directly, I can't see any IP address setting that is localhost in some form or other. |
| [07:21:24] | PaulWay[w]: | And even processes on the backend like mythbackend --printsched get the same timeout |
| [07:21:35] | PaulWay[w]: | which makes me think it isn't necessarily a network issue. |
| [07:22:15] | PaulWay[w]: | Would it be a schema problem? How do I find out what schema version it's at? |
| [07:22:19] | Beirdo: | well, with no logs to look at, there's no way anyone can say for sure without being... telepathic |
| [07:22:39] | PaulWay[w]: | Happy to post logs if you want them – one moment. |
| [07:23:41] | PaulWay[w]: | Here's mythfilldatabase running on the backend: http://fpaste.org/UVtS/ |
| [07:23:50] | Beirdo: | and an LVR patch put in |
| [07:24:03] | PaulWay[w]: | Thanks for your patience with me Beirdo :-) |
| [07:24:57] | Beirdo: | and where's the delay you were seeing? |
| [07:25:21] | PaulWay[w]: | At 17:08:37 |
| [07:25:39] | PaulWay[w]: | When it tries to connect to the backend. |
| [07:25:44] | Beirdo: | 1912 programs wow. I have nearly 100k |
| [07:25:47] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [07:25:53] | Beirdo: | is the backend running? |
| [07:26:04] | PaulWay[w]: | It definitely should be. |
| [07:26:11] | PaulWay[w]: | Hence the netstat posted earlier. |
| [07:26:15] | PaulWay[w]: | I will restart it JIC. |
| [07:26:20] | Beirdo: | got backend logs? |
| [07:27:56] | PaulWay[w]: | I'd disabled it earlier because it didn't seem to recognise the --logfile option any more, but let me mabulate that a bit to see if it's working now. |
| [07:29:15] | Beirdo: | you need to use --logpath and give it a directory to write logs into... or use syslog |
| [07:29:18] | PaulWay[w]: | Ah, stupid me. Fixed it to --logpath. |
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| [07:31:22] | PaulWay[w]: | OK, I've got backend log. I can't see anything in the backend log corresponding to the time that I run mythbackend --printsched (in another terminal window). |
| [07:34:42] | PaulWay[w]: | Re 1912 programs: welcome to regional Australia :-) |
| [07:34:58] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:35:11] | PaulWay[w]: | It says it's currently on schema 1299 – is that reasonable? |
| [07:35:26] | Beirdo: | dunno offhand |
| [07:35:39] | PaulWay[w]: | Fair enough :-) |
| [07:35:57] | Beirdo: | I stopped using 0.25 technically about half an hour after it was released :) |
| [07:36:07] | PaulWay[w]: | Touche :-) |
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| [07:37:44] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. |
| [07:37:53] | Beirdo: | mythbuild.sh update |
| [07:38:08] | Beirdo: | which means I need to do an update for the bootstrap.sh too later |
| [07:44:59] | Beirdo: | unexpected end of file in patch |
| [07:45:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [07:58:04] | Beirdo: | anyways, bedtime for me |
| [07:58:51] | PaulWay[w]: | Thanks for your help there Beirdo. |
| [07:59:18] | PaulWay[w]: | Still problems, still can't work it out, but I appreciate any suggestions :-) |
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| [09:03:29] | pentux: | hi – I am a newbie to mythtv |
| [09:04:02] | pentux: | when I run tvtime in Ubuntu 11.10 I get the following error: |
| [09:04:17] | pentux: | videoinput: Can't get tuner info: Invalid argument |
| [09:04:37] | pentux: | and ... |
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| [09:04:49] | pentux: | mixer: find error: Success |
| [09:04:50] | pentux: | mixer: Can't open mixer default, mixer volume and mute unavailable. |
| [09:04:50] | pentux: | mixer: Can't open device default/Line, mixer volume and mute unavailable. |
| [09:07:13] | pentux: | from the configuration files it looks as all is correct though. I can see video0 in /dev and the card appears in the sound configuration under Hardware |
| [09:08:29] | pentux: | I have tried to run it as root with audio and mythtv groups added |
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| [09:09:59] | pentux: | I am using the SAA7134 Video Broadcast decoder |
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| [09:13:34] | lapion: | pentux this channel is for mythtv only not tvtime |
| [09:28:10] | pentux: | ok |
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| [09:57:11] | sulx: | anyone experiencing mythfrontend segfault on start with mythbuntu? |
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| [11:20:12] | wizbit: | is there a way to turn on network control 6546 from mythweb? |
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| [11:45:17] | PaulWay: | BTW, can someone else do a netstat -tulpn | grep myth and tell me what addresses your mythbackend is listening on please? |
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| [11:59:12] | peitolm: | is anyone familiar with any current/recent issues doing dvb-s scans (particularly of astra 2) I'm running an oldish git release (somewhere late 0.24), |
| [12:00:47] | peitolm: | or can anyone tell me where the channel scanning lives? |
| [12:02:52] | PaulWay: | No idea here, I'm afraid, I only use dvb-t. |
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| [12:08:25] | dekarl: | peitolm: you are thinking of bugs like these? http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10054 |
| [12:10:26] | peitolm: | dekarl: could be, |
| [12:10:35] | peitolm: | let me check where i am in relation to that commit |
| [12:11:08] | dekarl: | peitolm: I have collected some DVB specific issues here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Dekarl/Burndown_DVB (need to update that someday) |
| [12:11:35] | ** peitolm wonders how to work out if v0.25-beta-1-gd1a6cc8 contains that patch ** | |
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| [12:13:53] | peitolm: | is there a way to trigger a channel scan manually? |
| [12:14:04] | peitolm: | from the CLI, rather than bringing up mythtv-setup |
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| [12:48:26] | peitolm: | dekarl:don't suppose you have any tunings of 28.8E? |
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| [13:50:31] | dekarl: | peitolm: nah, I live in a 19.2E country without satellite :( |
| [13:51:11] | dekarl: | does a scan with fixes/0.25 stop, too? |
| [13:54:59] | dekarl: | btw, beta 1 was ~18 days before the fix |
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| [14:40:45] | peitolm: | dekarl: o.k. i'm quite a bit before beta1 |
| [14:40:49] | peitolm: | i think |
| [14:40:51] | peitolm: | maybe not |
| [14:41:01] | peitolm: | anyhow, i'll update to 0.25 over the weekend and re-test |
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| [15:17:56] | L3top: | How difficult is it to setup a headless backend? |
| [15:21:50] | tank-man: | why would it be difficult? |
| [15:22:20] | tank-man: | you might need a monitor at first to do setup, not sure |
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| [15:28:50] | AndyCap: | L3top: you need a way to run mythtv-setup on an X display, over the net or on a local monitor. |
| [15:29:18] | AndyCap: | L3top: and whatever tools you need to install your actual distro to run myth on. |
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| [15:51:24] | L3top: | I am working with LinuxMCE to create a schema for headless installs. Can I use ssh -X to run setup from a media director? Thank you for the reply AndyCap. |
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| [15:56:37] | AndyCap: | L3top: I have used ssh -X to run mythtv-setup. Hopefully someone will yell if that is broken |
| [15:57:04] | AndyCap: | L3top: (I am lagging behind the current release a bit, since it works fine for me. :P) |
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| [15:57:17] | AndyCap: | but I'lll be upgrading soon. promise. |
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| [16:01:24] | L3top: | AndyCap: We are stuck on .23 until 12.04 so I feel you there. A lot would have to be rewritten to get us to the highly regarded .25 |
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| [17:05:47] | RagingMind: | the seagate sv35 series of drives (optimized for video surveillance) sounds like a good fit for a mythbox, does anyone in here have experience with them? |
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| [17:34:02] | jm|laptop: | o.O |
| [17:34:13] | jm|laptop: | my Mythbackend appear to have 'found' a new channel all by itself. Does it do that now? |
| [17:34:24] | jm|laptop: | I don't remember a placeholder for it from last time I did a channel scan |
| [17:36:40] | EvilGuru: | RagingMind: I would be surprised if it is anything more than a normal 3tb drive with a different firmware |
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| [17:37:41] | EvilGuru: | The issue — as always — is that unless something is seriously wrong most drives nowadays will last to 12,000 hours |
| [17:38:05] | EvilGuru: | So by the time people can say 'that series is/was reliable' they are long gone from the market place |
| [17:40:28] | ertyu-m: | unless there is a significant price disparity, the mainstream drives are probably better |
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| [17:45:10] | Sharky112065: | 12,000 hours? Guess I've been lucky; never had a drive with so short a lifesapn. |
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| [17:51:18] | AndyCap: | yeah, 1.5 years is a tad on the short side. |
| [17:54:13] | EvilGuru: | If it goes bad before then I'll write it off as a bad drive with no hard feelings, anything past that and I'll count it against the model/series |
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| [17:59:03] | AndyCap: | EvilGuru: how long should it last before you're satisfied? |
| [18:01:14] | EvilGuru: | AndyCap: 30,000 ish is a reasonable run |
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| [18:46:30] | jrb^: | Greetings! |
| [18:47:41] | jrb^: | I am scanning back through todays history, and I am thinking maybe my problem i posted on the news group is fixed regarding backend lockups? I am referencing the commit Sharky112065 referenced shortly after midnight. |
| [18:49:51] | Sharky112065: | Yes, I was just talking with stuartm, the commit that caused the problem has been reverted. |
| [18:50:08] | RagingMind: | EvilGuru, they also have a slower spindle speed and a current-limited spin up |
| [18:50:37] | jrb^: | cool! I see it just popped up in the commit history for .25-fixes |
| [18:51:22] | Sharky112065: | Caused me great distress :) Thought maybe something was wrong with my new hardware or something as I am new to Mythtv |
| [18:51:25] | Beirdo: | jrb^: you know, you don't need to anonymize logs :) |
| [18:51:47] | jrb^: | ok. thanks Beirdo |
| [18:52:13] | Beirdo: | if you see a password in the logs, please be sure to let us know and we'll fix the logs :) |
| [18:52:22] | jrb^: | ditto that Sharky112065 |
| [18:52:39] | jrb^: | ok. i'll make a note of that! |
| [18:53:10] | Beirdo: | anyways, glad your problem has been fixed (hopefully). |
| [18:53:32] | jrb^: | just need to wait for the build bot for mythbuntu to kick in! |
| [18:55:26] | jrb^: | I have faith in the upcoming fix! |
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| [19:59:27] | lwizardl: | hello |
| [20:01:26] | lwizardl: | looks like my cable box is showing signs of needing to be replaced again. So I am looking for info on which comcast cable box would be best for use with myth |
| [20:01:38] | lwizardl: | currently have a rng110 |
| [20:02:23] | [R]: | how are you connected to it? |
| [20:02:39] | lwizardl: | currently RCA |
| [20:03:00] | lwizardl: | composite |
| [20:03:57] | [R]: | then it doesnt matter |
| [20:03:59] | [R]: | myth doesnt care |
| [20:04:14] | tgm4883: | why do you have an RNG110 if you are only doing SD? |
| [20:04:46] | lwizardl: | tgm4883, because that is what my local office uses, they stopped using the motorola boxes |
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| [20:06:29] | tgm4883: | lwizardl, hope they aren't charging you an HD fee for that |
| [20:07:12] | lwizardl: | tgm4883, yes they do charge me for HD channels, but if I don't use the hd channels my signal quality sucks |
| [20:07:38] | tgm4883: | that doesn't make much sense |
| [20:08:09] | tgm4883: | if you are using composite, then there is no signal quality issues at the mythtv end |
| [20:08:21] | tgm4883: | which means that the signal quality issues are going to be from comcast |
| [20:08:27] | lwizardl: | exactly |
| [20:08:35] | tgm4883: | which you should make them fix if their box can't tune their channels |
| [20:08:52] | lwizardl: | I have been dealing with various issues from comcast for over 3 years now and they never can fix the problem |
| [20:09:05] | tgm4883: | yea that sucks |
| [20:09:10] | tgm4883: | what tuner do you have |
| [20:09:36] | tgm4883: | and probably more importantly, how do you change the channels |
| [20:09:43] | lwizardl: | uploading a sample of what the box is doing now. its been like this on most channels for 3 weeks now. and I have had them send the reactivation signal about 40 times |
| [20:10:51] | lwizardl: | when i got the rng110 i had to manually change the channels before that i had the dct6200. I have a ir blaster for the channel changing that used to work with the old box |
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| [20:11:04] | lwizardl: | the tuner in the myth box is a PVR-150 |
| [20:11:12] | tgm4883: | I've got an RNG110 and I change via firewire |
| [20:11:41] | jrb^: | hi. I was looking at the latest commit in fixes.25 |
| [20:11:43] | lwizardl: | okay I could try that |
| [20:12:03] | jrb^: | and looks like it restored what was reverted? |
| [20:12:27] | lwizardl: | if I get another box. I honestly think the cablecard in the rng110 keeps deauthorizing which could be causing my issue |
| [20:13:34] | lwizardl: | upload finished http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arAuUsVSi78&feature=youtu.be |
| [20:15:24] | lwizardl: | that is what i have been getting live from the cable box and not through mythtv |
| [20:16:08] | tgm4883: | yea thats a bad signal |
| [20:16:46] | lwizardl: | yeah |
| [20:17:02] | lwizardl: | its just another item in the long list of problems I have had with comcast |
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| [20:30:10] | lwizardl: | tgm4883, do you also use the firewire for saving the shows ? |
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| [20:46:53] | tgm4883: | lwizardl, no, I have an HDPVR |
| [20:47:02] | lwizardl: | ah okay |
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| [22:25:40] | wizbit: | excellent |
| [22:25:52] | wizbit: | telnet localhost 6546 |
| [22:25:57] | wizbit: | message hello! |
| [22:26:26] | wizbit: | is there a way to scroll messages across the screen in 25.1 ? |
| [22:31:02] | wizbit: | mythmusic now looks awesome |
| [22:31:07] | ** wizbit is amazed ** | |
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| [22:32:26] | wizbit: | i need to update all my FLACS with graphics |
| [22:32:31] | wizbit: | and meta data |
| [22:33:35] | wizbit: | play music url URL |
| [22:33:39] | wizbit: | holy cows |
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