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| [00:50:46] | Sharky112065: | Getting this on every hdhomerun tuner and every channel all 7 of them :( Thousands and thousands and they just stream by constantly if I tail -f the mythbackend log file. 2012-07–02 05:57:10.764927 E [15066/18354] HDHRStreamHandler mpeg/atscstreamdata.cpp:479 (HandleTables) – ATSCStreamData::HandleTables(): Unknown table 0xb3 |
| [00:52:17] | Sharky112065: | Eventual leads to a deadlocked mythbackend |
| [00:55:50] | Sharky112065: | hmm this channel is really dead today :( |
| [01:00:26] | Sharky112065: | Oh I forgot to mention i get that when recording on any of those channels and on any of the hdhomerun tuners.. |
| [01:02:06] | Twiggy2cents: | seems like it was really busy up until the point of 0.25 release. Normally wagnerp is hanging out in here but he must be on vacation or something. |
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| [01:17:18] | Sharky112065: | Ive spent two weeks and $4000 on this and its not looking good :( |
| [01:17:52] | Sharky112065: | And I already had the tuners |
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| [01:19:36] | Sharky112065: | The ceton infini cards are working great. The Hdhomerun tuners not so much. they record, but constant errors in the log file and eventually the backend hardlocks |
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| [02:31:12] | linuxtech: | Has stability gone out the window for anyone else recently? |
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| [02:31:34] | [R]: | nope |
| [02:33:36] | linuxtech: | I think I have a filesystem issue, but logs are not showing it... Since the Derecho storm blew through things have been getting worse. I start the backend and seems to do fine for a couple hours and then it just hangs, the usual service mythtv-backend doesn't seem to kill it completly either. |
| [02:35:33] | linuxtech: | I can try a manual fsck, I have already tried the force on boot up, but I have seen a problem like this on a frontend machine that had a power failure and reformatting the drive was the only thing that worked. |
| [02:36:25] | linuxtech: | It sucks to reinstall the backend, no CD or monitor on the machine, hours of work to prepare... |
| [02:36:59] | Sharky112065: | My backend is hanging as well |
| [02:38:44] | linuxtech: | The only thing I have seen on the backend logs is something about the preview image generation, other than that no errors I have noticed. On a frontend I am getting a protocol error, but that is because the backend only is partially responding... |
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| [03:05:04] | Sharky112065: | What version are you on? |
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| [03:05:22] | linuxtech: | .25 |
| [03:05:28] | Sharky112065: | fixes? |
| [03:05:34] | linuxtech: | on Ubuntu 12.04 |
| [03:05:38] | linuxtech: | yes |
| [03:06:26] | Sharky112065: | same for me. I just did a pull today hoping it would fix it, but it did not. And nobody that knows what they are doing has responded to any of my requests for help today. |
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| [03:07:13] | linuxtech: | I found a harddrive I can use to boot it via usb, now I need to get that ready and look for a monitor, all that just to manaully fsck it, and if that doesn't work reinstall... |
| [03:07:56] | linuxtech: | Did you have power issues from that Derecho storm? |
| [03:08:22] | Sharky112065: | no, Im in seattle |
| [03:09:25] | Sharky112065: | I have to kill -9 the pid of mythbackend just to stop it. normal kill does not work |
| [03:09:54] | linuxtech: | Ou rpower flickered a number of times, and the backend is on a UPS, but these cheap UPS's just could deal with the on, off, on, off... of the storm. I am in Lancaster VA, we didn't lose power except those little on off things, but a few million people in VA lost power. |
| [03:12:19] | Sharky112065: | I have no ups, but if I loose poewer my Adaptec Hardware raid card has a vmm moudule so I will have no data loss. |
| [03:13:12] | Sharky112065: | Your problem is probably different from mine then. |
| [03:13:27] | Sharky112065: | If you were running fine before and did not do any pulls recently |
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| [04:26:53] | ** J-e-f-f-A growls as after upgrading to 0.25 over the weekend, he has no audio in mythtv on his backend... :-( ** | |
| [04:27:11] | ** J-e-f-f-A hasn't upgraded his frontend[s] yet. ** | |
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| [04:37:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gah... this could be the issue... "Audio output device is set to an ALSA device but ALSA support is not compiled in!" D'oh... |
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| [04:53:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | duh... Ok, my fault... when I first compiled mythtv, I hadn't un-installed pulseaudio yet... all sorted now. D'oh! |
| [04:54:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | Note that the Setup "Audio" page segfaults if not compiled with alsa support and pulseaudio is not installed... |
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| [08:15:31] | PaulWay: | I've upgraded to MythTV 0.25 recently and am getting seven second timeouts ("MythSocket(a3a6f0:14): readStringList: Error, timed out after 7000 ms.") on trying to connect. |
| [08:16:35] | PaulWay: | It then goes through and actually gets the data, which is OK for stuff like recording, but for playing back and mythweb it means that everything eventually dies. |
| [08:16:38] | PaulWay: | Any ideas what might be causing this? |
| [08:17:02] | PaulWay: | I've searched the webutrons but can't find any obvious "how to fix that" posts. |
| [08:20:22] | PaulWay: | Curse – gotta go, will be back later to ask. |
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| [09:24:21] | peitolm: | anyone here with UK's 5* working on DVB-S? I'm having problems getting myth to see the transponder |
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| [11:23:04] | wizbit: | what are: External Codec Options used for? do i require any of those? |
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| [11:28:24] | wizbit: | i dont remember those options in 24.x ./configure options |
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| [11:45:26] | wizbit: | my rc.mythbackend doesnt work anymore |
| [11:45:33] | wizbit: | all i need is mythbackend -d ? |
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| [12:30:38] | Twiggy2cents: | wizbit, external codecs are for transcoding and HLS streaming. You can run mythbackend by its self but you should at least set up some logging. A better option would be to figure out why the script doesnt start it |
| [12:34:51] | wizbit: | Twiggy2cents: i currently use this but it doesnt work anymore: |
| [12:34:54] | wizbit: | /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --noupnp --user mythtv -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -v important,general -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d |
| [12:37:51] | Twiggy2cents: | -l changed to --logpath |
| [12:38:51] | Twiggy2cents: | do mythbackend --help or man to verify that the rest of your options are still good |
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| [12:39:43] | wizbit: | ok thanks |
| [12:39:46] | wizbit: | /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --noupnp --user mythtv --logpath /var/log/mythbackend.log -v general -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d |
| [12:39:49] | wizbit: | that works! |
| [12:39:59] | wizbit: | can you see anything there what is missing? |
| [12:42:24] | Twiggy2cents: | make sure your logging is working and you have no perm issues. other than that that seems fine. |
| [12:42:29] | Twiggy2cents: | Why no pnp? |
| [12:42:48] | Twiggy2cents: | s/pnp/upnp |
| [12:43:43] | wizbit: | i dont use it |
| [12:44:31] | Twiggy2cents: | gotcha... I just see a year and a half down the road you have somethign with upnp and wont be able to figure out why it doesnt work. ;-) |
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| [12:44:37] | Twiggy2cents: | That is something I would do |
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| [13:01:14] | Sharky112065: | hmm log file shows complaints about taking 2.5 seconds to write ocasionally. That is odd since I just did a write test of a 64 GB file and it avereged 400MB per sec. And when the 8 shows were recording it was only writing 11 MB per sec. No jobs were set to run just to make sure disk io was not what is causing my backend to no longer allow the front ends to function, and having to kill -9 |
| [13:01:14] | Sharky112065: | the backend just to terminate it. |
| [13:03:40] | Sharky112065: | sphery oh sphery, where art thou |
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| [13:12:27] | sphery: | Sharky112065: Shall I hear more, or shall I speak at this? |
| [13:13:20] | sphery: | Sharky112065: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 20206#520206 |
| [13:13:38] | sphery: | and I'd appreciate any feedback on whether it helps you, too |
| [13:15:05] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I am going to try that right now |
| [13:15:40] | Sharky112065: | It blew me away that my raid aray is faster at writes than my ssd :p |
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| [13:22:41] | ViperSBT: | Trying to get MythMusic working and it has recognized my music collection, but when I try to get something to play it just sits there... All the frontend tells me is this: http://pastebin.com/KQ7EDFLR |
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| [13:24:44] | Sharky112065: | sphery: OK, 8 hd shows scheduled to record in 2 minutes |
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| [13:33:44] | Sharky112065: | sphery: still getting log messages saying TFWWrite ThreadedFileWriter.cpp is taking up to 2000 ms, and total write throughput is 11 MB/s |
| [13:33:55] | Sharky112065: | so dropped about half a second |
| [13:35:23] | Sharky112065: | I do not know what filter options to turn on to get the data we need. (all) was way too much for me to handle |
| [13:37:27] | Sharky112065: | At 400 MB average throughput, that should be more than enough to handle 20 tuners recording; it's having trouble with just 8 |
| [13:39:11] | Sharky112065: | When these recording are done in 23 min, I will see if the front end is non-responsive again |
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| [13:44:55] | jmusits: | k |
| [13:45:06] | sphery: | Sharky112065: the problem may just be all the seeking required... most people use multiple file systems on separate spindles for recording--ideally at least one per concurrent recording |
| [13:45:25] | sphery: | 8 concurrent recordings to a single file system is asking a lot |
| [13:46:04] | sphery: | Sharky112065: either that or you have barriers enabled, so each write has to wait until the data is on the platter (versus the disk cache) |
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| [13:58:29] | Sharky112065: | How do I check to see if barriers is enabled? That is new to me. |
| [13:59:07] | Sharky112065: | Might be because it was a fresh Debian Squeeze install and I did not do any out of the box kinda stuff other then all the dependancies for mythtv |
| [13:59:15] | jmusits: | Sharky112065: what fs? |
| [13:59:21] | Sharky112065: | XFS |
| [13:59:44] | Sharky112065: | 17TB Raid array |
| [13:59:59] | jmusits: | its a mount option, nobarrier will turn it off |
| [14:00:16] | Sharky112065: | What test/cmd do I do to see if it is on? |
| [14:00:22] | jmusits: | mount |
| [14:00:33] | jmusits: | it will be in the mount options if you mounted w/ nobarrier |
| [14:01:10] | sid3windr: | that's to see if it is off, not to see if it is on, then ;) |
| [14:02:24] | Sharky112065: | The word barrier did not show on the screen when I typed mount |
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| [14:08:11] | Sharky112065: | ok, im going to try it, im just wondering what it does, is there a risk to loosing data? |
| [14:08:47] | Sharky112065: | Oh I reread what sphery said |
| [14:09:08] | Sharky112065: | I have cache backed up by vmm on the raid card so I guess nobarrier woudl be safe for me |
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| [14:19:12] | ViperSBT: | Trying to get MythMusic working and it has recognized my music collection, but when I try to get something to play it just sits there... All the frontend tells me is this: http://pastebin.com/KQ7EDFLR .... This appears to be the problem "CoreContext audio/audiooutput.cpp:242 (Error) – AudioOutput Error: AOOSS: Error opening audio device (): |
| [14:19:12] | ViperSBT: | eno: No such file or directory (2)" I just can't find anything that tells me what is causing it... |
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| [14:26:46] | wizbit: | Error opening jump program file... |
| [14:26:59] | wizbit: | do i need to do a re-scan when running 25.1 |
| [14:30:24] | jmusits: | Sharky112065: does your raid card have a battery backup for the cache? |
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| [14:31:03] | jmusits: | if not you have a potential for data loss on power loss |
| [14:32:03] | wizbit: | strange error messages |
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| [14:34:32] | wizbit: | wow live tv came on, then it froze :-S |
| [14:34:47] | Sharky112065: | ok nobarrier is in. |
| [14:35:13] | Sharky112065: | set 8 recording 5 minutes in 2 recording failed and front end is not responding |
| [14:36:37] | Sharky112065: | This cant be drive related. I have recorded 9 programs on the same drive on windows with a combo of sagetv and media center. |
| [14:37:14] | Sharky112065: | jmusits: no it does not, it has a vmm module that does the same thing |
| [14:38:03] | jmusits: | http://bit.ly/P2ojJO |
| [14:41:11] | Sharky112065: | jmusits: thanks, yeah I turned off each drives write cache but did not know about the barriers. It is sorted now. Still I cannot record shows without it locking up the backend.. well its not locked, I just cant kill it the normal way with out the -9 and frontend is unresponsive some time after the recordings start |
| [14:46:24] | wizbit: | arggghhh .25 keeps on putting a mouse pointer on my screen |
| [14:46:29] | wizbit: | nothing workssss arggghgh |
| [14:46:37] | wizbit: | no logging video starts then freezes |
| [14:46:42] | sphery: | Sharky112065: usually, you can find barrier status by using: cat /proc/mounts |
| [14:47:24] | wizbit: | lets first start with logging |
| [14:47:37] | wizbit: | exec mythfrontend -v general --logpath /var/log/mythfrontend.log |
| [14:47:47] | sphery: | wizbit: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Logging |
| [14:47:48] | wizbit: | for some reason nothing gets logged with that above line |
| [14:47:51] | sphery: | broken command line |
| [14:48:37] | sphery: | wizbit: for mouse cursor, you probably have disabled, "Hide mouse cursor in MythTV" in Appearance settings |
| [14:50:05] | wizbit: | thats the mouse problem solved :D |
| [14:50:34] | sphery: | wizbit: what distro |
| [14:50:48] | wizbit: | slackware |
| [14:51:03] | wizbit: | -v general --logpath /var/log/mythfrontend.log <--- will general log most errors etc |
| [14:51:05] | sphery: | ok, so you'll probably have to decide how to do logging--either file logging or syslog logging |
| [14:51:14] | wizbit: | yep i can do that |
| [14:51:23] | sphery: | read teh linked page, though, to figure out how to use each (as your --logpath is broken) |
| [14:51:40] | sphery: | --logpath requires mythtv user to have write access to the specified path |
| [14:51:55] | wizbit: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 3 15:28 /var/log/mythfrontend.log |
| [14:51:58] | sphery: | syslog doesn't require that, but requires explicit configuration of your syslog implementation |
| [14:52:02] | sphery: | read the linked page |
| [14:52:07] | sphery: | your --logpath is broken... |
| [14:52:13] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Logging#File_Logging |
| [14:52:46] | sphery: | (where the --help output for --logpath tells you what's broken about that argument :) |
| [14:52:59] | sphery: | shown in the page at the place linked |
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| [14:53:55] | sphery: | oh, and if this logpath arg is coming from a distro/package-provided start script, please get the packagers to fix it, too |
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| [14:56:43] | wizbit: | i will use 'all' |
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| [14:57:29] | wizbit: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 0 Jul 3 15:57 /var/log/mythfrontend.log |
| [14:58:17] | sphery: | it's the logpath that's broken |
| [14:58:22] | sphery: | can't be /var/log/mythfrontend.log |
| [14:58:34] | wizbit: | that is the log path? |
| [14:58:40] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Logging#File_Logging |
| [14:58:58] | sphery: | read the part after, "File logging is disabled by default and may be enabled with the argument: " |
| [14:59:38] | wizbit: | i see |
| [14:59:46] | wizbit: | so all i need is: --logpath /var/log/ |
| [15:00:19] | sphery: | assuming mythtv user has write access to /var/log |
| [15:00:30] | sphery: | (where, if that's the case, your /var/log file permissions are broken :) |
| [15:00:45] | sphery: | as non-privileged users shouldn't be writing to /var/log... |
| [15:00:55] | sphery: | I'd recommend /var/log/mythtv at least |
| [15:01:09] | sphery: | set perms on /var/log/mythtv to allow mythtv user to write there |
| [15:01:13] | wizbit: | ok thanks |
| [15:01:14] | sphery: | or use syslog logging |
| [15:01:31] | sphery: | or (as I do), log to some other non /var/log location |
| [15:02:45] | wizbit: | that works!!!! |
| [15:02:48] | wizbit: | you clever sod |
| [15:03:04] | wizbit: | lets find out whats broke |
| [15:04:16] | wizbit: | ok when i hit live tv |
| [15:04:22] | wizbit: | it shows for a few seconds then freezes |
| [15:04:25] | wizbit: | the logs show this: https://paste.lugons.org/raw/TxR5vqC99gXZlumS2lVA/ |
| [15:07:02] | wizbit: | i will restart all boxes |
| [15:07:17] | sphery: | try hitting pause after it starts, wait a couple seconds, and see if it works when you resume |
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| [15:22:04] | Sharky112065: | sphery: well I shceduled 8 programs to record, something happened and only 7 are recording, but it is still going. It also seems to have a mind of its own. I have it set up to start 180 seconds early and 180 seconds late. and durring my testing I have made sure not to do any back to back recording. Sometimes it puts the padding on boths sides, some times it only puts it on one side. Once |
| [15:22:04] | Sharky112065: | it put it on both sides but only put padding on the start of one program.. I think my new setup is cursed :( |
| [15:24:12] | Sharky112065: | I think I may have to go back to media center and jsut write off the ability to do padding and write off the 2+ weeks I put into this. I don't know what else to do, I have reached my limit of what I can figure out on it. |
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| [15:33:02] | wizbit: | what the heck does this mean: |
| [15:33:03] | wizbit: | 2012-07–03 16:32:47.161018 I [2686/2778] DVBRead mpeg/pespacket.cpp:161 (VerifyCRC) – PESPacket: Failed CRC check 0x2f153247 != 0xf6b33fd1 for StreamID = 0x70 |
| [15:33:06] | ** wizbit is confused ** | |
| [15:33:20] | wizbit: | lots of that floating down the log |
| [15:33:27] | EvilGuru: | wizbit: Bad reception |
| [15:33:38] | EvilGuru: | I think, anyway |
| [15:33:40] | wizbit: | my reception was fine on 24.3 |
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| [15:33:53] | wizbit: | maybe i need to retune |
| [15:34:23] | ** wizbit feels like a scared cat ** | |
| [15:34:42] | Sharky112065: | The connection to the backend server has gone away for some reason, is it running? wth |
| [15:35:19] | wizbit: | ythtv 2686 4.3 0.9 588084 35992 ? Ssl 16:20 0:37 /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --noupnp --user mythtv --logpath /var/log/mythtv -v all -p /var/run/mythbackend.pid -d |
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| [15:36:08] | wizbit: | i restarted it |
| [15:36:23] | wizbit: | looks better now |
| [15:37:13] | wizbit: | i love the way i can turn on a frontend via pfsense |
| [15:37:17] | wizbit: | using wol |
| [15:39:19] | sphery: | Sharky112065: the only padding that's guaranteed is per-rule start early/end late... the global setting doesn't work like people think (and really should be removed) |
| [15:40:15] | Sharky112065: | there are two places to set it, one shows it in seconds, and one in minutes, which one should be used? |
| [15:41:02] | sphery: | the one using minutes--i.e. the one in the recording rule |
| [15:41:06] | Sharky112065: | I cant get into the front end right now to look at the wording |
| [15:41:17] | Sharky112065: | ok ill change it then |
| [15:41:46] | sphery: | the global setting in Utilities/Setup is meant to allow you to start a capture card early, when it takes your system a few seconds to load firmware or whatever |
| [15:42:13] | Sharky112065: | sphery: have any of the developers tested 0.25 with 7 or more tuners recording HD at the same time? I'm thinking yes, but need to ask. |
| [15:42:16] | sphery: | so it's only used at card start up |
| [15:42:25] | sphery: | I'm guessing some have |
| [15:42:47] | sphery: | I'll also guarantee that if there's a problem it's due to system configuration/resource issues |
| [15:43:06] | sphery: | and it may be that those issues are triggered earlier with mythtv and its write patterns than on, for example, WinMCE |
| [15:43:13] | Sharky112065: | 32GB RAM, 8 Core CPU, and HW raid should be more than enough to handle it. So something is awry in the code |
| [15:43:34] | sphery: | I can tell you my system has no problems whatsoever with 6 concurrent recordings |
| [15:43:39] | sphery: | but it does it to 6 different file systems |
| [15:43:47] | sphery: | on 6 different drives |
| [15:44:09] | sphery: | single file system on raid would actually be detrimental because it would be constantly seeking |
| [15:44:20] | sphery: | (not to mention fragmenting) |
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| [15:44:33] | Sharky112065: | seeking on writes? it is mostly writes at this point |
| [15:45:10] | sphery: | yes, HDD head seeking to the appropriate block for writing for this file |
| [15:45:15] | wizbit: | tv is playing on 1 frontend now |
| [15:45:20] | jmusits: | anyone have any ideas as to why mythfrontend would be in a tight loop stat-ing /etc/localtime and spitting out the following: http://pastebin.com/rmUhY5zY indefinitely? |
| [15:45:27] | sphery: | i.e. write file 1, write file 2, write file 3, write file 4... |
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| [15:45:45] | wizbit: | the sound quality sounds different, more high pitched |
| [15:46:10] | jmusits: | contents from strace, this nearly pegs both cores on the frontend machine |
| [15:46:36] | sphery: | with 8 multi-gb files being written at the same time, there's a lot of seeking around as it writes various parts to the various blocks allocated for the various recordings |
| [15:47:40] | sphery: | and because there's no way to know how much space to pre-allocate (and no standard/portable way to pre-allocate large amounts of space for a single file that's written over an hour or so of time), multiple recordings to a single file system get very fragmented |
| [15:47:54] | wizbit: | mythtv is suddenly working |
| [15:47:55] | wizbit: | how strange |
| [15:47:57] | sphery: | which causes even more seeking |
| [15:48:17] | wizbit: | do i notice any difference between 24.x |
| [15:48:20] | wizbit: | no lol |
| [15:48:38] | sphery: | yeah, 0.25 had mainly "background" changes |
| [15:48:51] | sphery: | few other changes in not-primary parts |
| [15:48:53] | wizbit: | it feels a bit snappier |
| [15:49:00] | sphery: | (though things like captions are much improved) |
| [15:49:29] | Sharky112065: | OK, here is what I will do, I will cut it down to 4 recording and record multiple times. If it fails It is not hardware. If it cant handle 4 recordings then something has to be wrong with the code |
| [15:49:43] | sphery: | or the configuration... |
| [15:49:55] | Sharky112065: | what is to configure? |
| [15:49:55] | sphery: | as 6 concurrent recordings works fine for me :) |
| [15:50:07] | sphery: | if I knew, I'd tell you what to fix ;) |
| [15:50:38] | sphery: | there's so much with kernel and file system and scheduling and ... that can affect mythtv |
| [15:50:48] | Sharky112065: | It is also loosing data from the cable cards. I noticed a lot of those messages, which may be the entire problem |
| [15:50:57] | sphery: | right, that could be a problem |
| [15:50:57] | wizbit: | oh i wish retro 4:3 was included |
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| [15:51:05] | sphery: | and might be due to buffer overflow due to slow writes |
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| [15:52:27] | wizbit: | us poor 4:3 users only have mythcenter theme to use :( |
| [15:52:39] | wizbit: | or steppes narrow :-S |
| [15:53:09] | wizbit: | menus do feel nice and snappy |
| [15:53:12] | wizbit: | more smooth |
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| [15:55:22] | sphery: | steppes narrow is extremely nice (as is the normal wide one) |
| [15:55:35] | wizbit: | actually its growing on me |
| [15:55:40] | sphery: | but 4:3 users also have the option of creating a new theme, too... |
| [15:56:15] | wizbit: | retro 4:3 already existed once |
| [15:56:19] | wizbit: | what happened to it? |
| [15:56:28] | sphery: | yes, but was designed for the old, legacy ui engine |
| [15:56:34] | wizbit: | oh |
| [15:56:54] | sphery: | and no one cared enough to make a version for the new engine |
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| [15:58:38] | wizbit: | this is much faster than 24.x |
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| [15:59:38] | Cocodude: | Hello. Probably a simple query. Often when I try to tune into a channel not carrying live TV (e.g. encrypted, off air or just MHEG), I get the error "error opening jump program file" (0.25-fixes branch). This seems to be quite a nasty crash and the error window doesn't respond to keypresses. I know I probably shouldn't tune directly into these anyway, but should it error in such a bad/crashy way? |
| [16:01:49] | sphery: | wizbit: for the most part "converting" to the new engine, the only thing that's reusable from an old theme is the actual position of things--everything else needs rewriting (meaning it's probably easier to write a new theme from scratch than to convert an old one--and you'll probably get a better theme that way, too, since it will be designed for/able to take advantage of the capabilities of the new theme engine) |
| [16:02:28] | sphery: | which is why it wasn't generally worthwhile to convert old themes |
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| [16:15:42] | Sharky112065: | sphery:interesting, it did add the 3 minutes to the end. It just did not show it because it had not happened yet. I guess that is the way it works. It showed the padding on the front end because it had already padded it. |
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| [16:23:39] | Sharky112065: | sphery: thing is, the recording record all the way to the end. I just get where the front end can no longer function after recordins have been going for a while. Also cant restart frontend to fix it. I have to hard kill the back end because my init.d script with stop will not stop it, and a normal kill will not stop it. I have to kill -9. Something is getting corrupted in the software |
| [16:23:39] | Sharky112065: | I believe. |
| [16:24:27] | Sharky112065: | So maybe I will just have to record tv and not watch any tv untill all of my recording are done for that night :( that will suck |
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| [16:25:45] | Sharky112065: | recording above should have been recordings |
| [16:30:06] | Sharky112065: | sphery: intuition is telling me that mythtvbackend is not getting enough system resources. Is there some system settins that limit what a normal user can have as far as resources? |
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| [16:48:14] | analogue: | hello |
| [16:48:23] | wizbit: | logfiles now look like a big mess with serial numbers :-S |
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| [16:48:48] | analogue: | anyone getting master backend lockups with the latest testing MythBuntu build? mythbackend version: fixes/0.25 [v0.25.1-53-g1282eb3] |
| [16:49:44] | analogue: | this is the most problematic it has been in YEARS :-( |
| [16:50:04] | tgm4883: | testing Mythbuntu build? |
| [16:50:35] | tgm4883: | I'm on 0.25, but I haven't updated in a few days. I haven't noticed any issues |
| [16:50:48] | analogue: | tgm: well maybe not testing. whatever is served up by: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.25/ubuntu precise main |
| [16:51:34] | analogue: | have to restart it every few hours. just stops responding to commands on *.:6543 |
| [16:52:18] | analogue: | the wacky upstart/syslog/logfiles business doesn't help much either |
| [16:53:01] | tgm4883: | analogue, you calling the upstart/syslog/logfiles stuff wacky without actually giving me any info on how it should be better really makes me want to help you while I'm at work |
| [16:54:20] | analogue: | tgm: just venting :-( nothing actionable. i just find it weird that sometimes log files go to /var/log/upstart then other times they go to /var/log/mythtv |
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| [16:56:02] | analogue: | anyone know how to get the mythtv backend process to dump a stack trace w/o loading it up in gdb? |
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| [16:56:41] | sl1ce: | how do people ever live without mythtv? |
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| [16:57:13] | tgm4883: | analogue, I'd imagine that only the upstart errors go to the upstart log |
| [16:57:23] | tgm4883: | and that anything mythtv related would be in /var/log/mythtv/ |
| [16:58:11] | analogue: | tgm: -rw-r----- 1 root root 2975 Jul 3 09:57 /var/log/upstart/mythtv-backend.log |
| [16:58:23] | analogue: | tgm: thats where my mythtv logging goes |
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| [16:59:19] | analogue: | tgm: i do have a slightly modified /etc/init/mythbackend.conf though: LANG=$LANG /usr/bin/mythbackend --user mythtv --noupnp --nodblog --verbose most --logpath /var/log/mythtv --loglevel warning |
| [16:59:58] | tgm4883: | analogue, and that is the actual mythtv log file? |
| [17:00:14] | analogue: | tgm4883: it sure is |
| [17:00:18] | tgm4883: | or is it stuff that is mirrored from /var/log/mythtv/mythtv-backend.log |
| [17:01:28] | analogue: | tgm: http://pastebin.com/g1P8cy19 |
| [17:01:56] | tgm4883: | analogue, is this a fresh install? |
| [17:02:41] | analogue: | tgm4883: this is an install that is probably 4 years old. been upgraded from 0.21 -> 0.25.1 with the requisite ubuntu upgrades along the way |
| [17:03:55] | ** analogue should have stuck with 0.24 in retrospect ** | |
| [17:07:03] | tgm4883: | analogue, are you on 12.04 as well then? |
| [17:07:36] | tgm4883: | analogue, and this just started happening the last few days? |
| [17:07:41] | tgm4883: | like since sunday? |
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| [17:10:29] | analogue: | tgm4883: yes, on 12.04 and started happening in the last few days |
| [17:10:54] | analogue: | tgm4883: 'like since sunday' sounds about right |
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| [17:13:50] | tgm4883: | analogue, have you rebooted? |
| [17:14:18] | analogue: | tgm4883: rebooted a couple days ago |
| [17:14:36] | analogue: | up 2 days, 8:54 |
| [17:14:39] | tgm4883: | analogue, would that be before midnight sunday morning? |
| [17:15:44] | tgm4883: | I know it sounds like a cop-out, but the june 30th leap second caused some havoc for some linux servers |
| [17:16:08] | analogue: | tgm4883: yeah..i rebooted after the whole leap second thing |
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| [17:16:30] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [17:16:36] | tgm4883: | I'll have to check mine when I get home |
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| [18:22:35] | ViperSBT: | Trying to get MythMusic working and it has recognized my music collection, but when I try to get something to play it just sits there... |
| [18:22:36] | ViperSBT: | All the frontend tells me is this: http://pastebin.com/KQ7EDFLR .... |
| [18:22:37] | ViperSBT: | This appears to be the problem "CoreContext audio/audiooutput.cpp:242 (Error) – AudioOutput Error: AOOSS: Error opening audio device (): eno: No such file or directory (2)" |
| [18:22:38] | ViperSBT: | I just can't find anything that tells me what is causing it... |
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| [19:32:43] | sphery: | ViperSBT: set your audio output device properly in mythfrontend's (main) General settings (not the General under Video playback) |
| [19:33:10] | ViperSBT: | Ohhh... Let me check that out... |
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| [20:12:58] | earthw0rm: | Hello lads, how do I play stuff off a USB stick in MythTV? |
| [20:13:11] | earthw0rm: | ... or copy it to my library |
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| [20:22:13] | ViperSBT: | Still appears to be doing the same thing: http://pastebin.com/W8FYcinM |
| [20:22:14] | ViperSBT: | I am using iec958 and all of my videos, recordings and TV play perfectly |
| [20:22:14] | ViperSBT: | SPDIF header going into NVIDIA video card and putting the audio on the HDMI |
| [20:22:15] | ViperSBT: | All Surround Sound channels working as they should... But, not simple playback of an music file... :( |
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| [20:56:05] | lapion: | what acceleration options does an ati/amd card off for mythtv/transcoder ? |
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| [20:57:03] | devinheitmueller: | lapion: none |
| [20:57:13] | devinheitmueller: | MythTV doesn't support any hardware acceleration for transcoding. |
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| [21:20:34] | ViperSBT: | This is what I am using for my audio sound card setting in MythTV Audio Setup: |
| [21:20:35] | ViperSBT: | iec958:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 |
| [21:20:35] | ViperSBT: | HDA NVidia, ALC662 rev1 Digital |
| [21:20:36] | ViperSBT: | IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output |
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| [21:37:45] | ViperSBT: | everything plays normally through mplayer... So it has to be something specific to Myth |
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| [21:50:22] | ViperSBT: | Maybe this will be of more help: http://pastebin.com/yQ5jaLuj |
| [21:50:22] | ViperSBT: | I enabled -v audio with the logging |
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| [21:53:29] | ViperSBT: | Why does MythMusic suspend PulseAudio and what Audio Output device is it trying to open? |
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| [22:18:03] | Twiggy2cents: | ViperSBT, are you sure it isnt dev=1 or 2? |
| [22:18:21] | Twiggy2cents: | My hdmi port uses dev=2 or maybe 1 |
| [22:19:15] | Twiggy2cents: | Isnt there an audio tester now in the setup wizard in .25? |
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| [22:42:31] | Sharky112065: | sphery: you still around? I went back to what I knew was working before I commited to moving the ceton's over to the new server. Previously I was able to record 5 shows simultaniously on hdhomeruns. I was able to do this multiple times which gave me the confidence to go ahead and put all tuners on mythtv and start using it. now I cannot even record 4 shows on the hdhomeruns without the |
| [22:42:31] | Sharky112065: | front end becomming unresponsive and the backend needing to be killed with kill -9. |
| [22:42:58] | Sharky112065: | sphery: how can I take my source tree back to commit 25dd4ce330 ? |
| [22:43:11] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I would like to test my theory out. |
| [22:45:08] | Sharky112065: | sphery: on the fixes/0.25 version |
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| [22:48:53] | Sharky112065: | analogue: I am getting backend lockups as well, with the same version. |
| [22:49:17] | Sharky112065: | analogue: I know that is a delayed response, but I just read what you said. |
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| [23:07:22] | AlexJFisher: | Are there downsides to using storage groups? |
| [23:09:08] | AlexJFisher: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo says 'it is critical to note that the Storage Group implementation is not complete'. But is that information out of date? Perhaps implementation was all finished in 0.25 release? |
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| [23:21:05] | Sharky112065: | sphery: nvm I got it "git checkout 25dd4ce330". I will test and if it works, I will put in one commit at a time until I find the one that breaks it. |
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