| Monday, July 2nd, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:26] | sphery: | Sharky112065: so doing that will delete the cache, and you'll get a new pull... when you re-try mythfilldatabase, do a mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [00:01:39] | sphery: | (and if that works, I apologize for not recognizing the symptoms, earlier... guess I've been distracted with real life (work travel last week and now visitors for the holiday)) |
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| [00:09:36] | Sharky112065: | sphery: hmm when I did that mythfilldatabase I used the file manualy downloaded. I just did a mythfilldatabase --dd-graball and it worked.. all populated |
| [00:10:04] | Sharky112065: | sphery: now ill add a ceton and do the same thing and see if it works, maybe they had a problem somewhere in the file they were sending. |
| [00:10:35] | sphery: | used the file you downloaded manually? you mean with mythfilldatabase --dd-file /path/to/file/from/xmltv/dd-path.xml |
| [00:11:38] | Sharky112065: | sphery: yes |
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| [00:12:14] | sphery: | did you try deleting the cache, too? |
| [00:12:43] | Sharky112065: | not yet I will after this grab gets done if it did not work |
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| [00:19:05] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I get a message after it says "Updating MythTV channels"; it says "Cardutil: ToDo Ceton Is Cablecard present?" Any idea what that is about? Maybe that is the problem. |
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| [00:20:54] | Sharky112065: | OMG! OMG! I have data fo every thing! |
| [00:21:34] | sphery: | no, that seems to be an extraneous comment |
| [00:21:42] | sphery: | ignore it |
| [00:21:53] | Sharky112065: | Schedules Direct must have had something in their feed and downloaded feed that was amiss. When I looked at the data it looked good, but it could have been something small |
| [00:22:12] | sphery: | I think you have a bad cache |
| [00:22:24] | Sharky112065: | Most people would not have noticed because they already had data |
| [00:22:27] | sphery: | something corrupt in there... maybe an interrupted download |
| [00:22:39] | sphery: | and because you kept trying, it never expired that cache |
| [00:22:51] | Sharky112065: | no, not on my end, because I wiped eveything and started over, remember |
| [00:23:00] | sphery: | cache on file system |
| [00:23:04] | sphery: | sudo rm -rf /tmp/mythtv_dd_cache_* |
| [00:23:07] | Sharky112065: | oh you mean the temp cache? |
| [00:23:13] | sphery: | that you probably weren't removing |
| [00:23:18] | Sharky112065: | no I was not |
| [00:23:26] | Sharky112065: | I did not even know about it |
| [00:23:28] | sphery: | I've seen this happen once before |
| [00:24:01] | sphery: | for that person, though, it was good data--just old |
| [00:24:10] | sphery: | this is the first time I've seen that /plus/ bad data |
| [00:24:28] | sphery: | it's possible the bad data was from a --only-update-channels pull (meaning it had basically no listings) |
| [00:24:36] | sphery: | and for some reason it just didn't go away properly |
| [00:24:52] | sphery: | anyway, I'm glad you've got it working, now\ |
| [00:25:13] | sphery: | if you remove the cache, it should work without using mythfilldatabase --dd-file |
| [00:26:30] | Sharky112065: | Ok, Im going ot add all the other tuners now. I have one hdhomerun and one ceton tuner configured, if I move the cetons Schedule order number and live order number up to like 30 temporarily, can I add the other Hdhomoeruns, look at the number of the last one, add one to it and then change the ceton to that number and then continue adding cetons? |
| [00:27:09] | Sharky112065: | will that work, or should I just remove every thing? |
| [00:27:13] | Sharky112065: | and start over |
| [00:27:28] | sphery: | schedule order and live tv order are how you change which is used first, now |
| [00:27:36] | sphery: | order you add things makes no difference |
| [00:27:41] | sphery: | don't even have to change ceton order, now |
| [00:27:53] | sphery: | just go back after and set preferences in the order you want |
| [00:28:31] | sphery: | and then--enjoy (finally :) |
| [00:28:46] | Sharky112065: | but I want the cetons after the hdhomeruns, because I want mythtv to record programs off the 7 channels I have configured for the hdhomeruns first before it hits the cetons |
| [00:28:49] | sphery: | glad you kept at it--it should be worth it once you've got it working |
| [00:29:33] | sphery: | right, so just add new hdhrs, then go in and set hdhrs to 1, 2, 3, 4... (or just 1) and then cetons to 5, 6, ... |
| [00:29:36] | sphery: | or whatever |
| [00:29:50] | Sharky112065: | That way I do not have to buy another ceton to be able to record back to back programs with padding |
| [00:29:51] | Sharky112065: | got it |
| [00:30:20] | Sharky112065: | Thanks for sticking through this with me.. Thanks for all the help :) |
| [00:30:27] | sphery: | just wish I thought of this sooner\ |
| [00:30:54] | Sharky112065: | OK, im off to configure the rest of the tuners. bbl |
| [00:36:48] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I also deleted all the crap channels in mythconverg with phpMyAdmin. That worked great. The ones that the Hdhomerun's scan created. |
| [00:37:12] | Sharky112065: | Since there is no way to do it within mythtv-setup |
| [00:46:25] | sphery: | Sharky112065: D in the channel editor in mythtv-setup |
| [00:46:31] | sphery: | (select channel, hit D) |
| [00:49:46] | Sharky112065: | sphery: Input Group 1, shows as Generic. For the 2nd Hdhomerun tuner on the first box. The first Hdhomerun tuner I created it made an input goup and it called it "HDHOMERUN_10119E4A-0". Should I make an Input group for the 2nd one and call it "HDHOMERUN_10119E4A-1"? |
| [00:50:36] | Sharky112065: | I know to leave the cetons as generic. Dosent this have to do with multiplexing? |
| [01:01:22] | sphery: | input groups are to keep 2 inputs from being used at the same time |
| [01:01:56] | sphery: | so, for example, if you're using a STB with HD-PVR and same STB for firewire--you'd put the firewire and HD-PVR in the same input group so only one is used at a time |
| [01:02:52] | Sharky112065: | Why did it automatically create an input group for the hdhomerun and not the ceton? |
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| [01:07:38] | Sharky112065: | NVM it changed the 2nd one to its own input group when I hit next |
| [01:12:21] | sphery: | ah, cool |
| [01:12:35] | sphery: | haven't set up an HDHR, so didn't know how it works |
| [01:17:17] | Sharky112065: | sphery: it is probably because hdhomeruns you can multiplex. The cetons it leaves as Generic |
| [01:22:35] | Sharky112065: | Lol @ 20 Tuners |
| [01:25:02] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I have a question that I have not been able to figure out by reading the wiki. When watching live tv it says to press "C" to switch tuners. That never works for me. What is the method for switching tuners? |
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| [01:46:57] | Sharky112065: | sphery: I think that I did it wrong :( I have to create two video sources dont I.. to use both the hdhomeruns and the cetons? |
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| [02:10:51] | lapion: | hmm if you copy back the un- transcoded .nuv.old file over the failed .nuv file the system keeps on using the size of the failed file instead of the size of the file that was just put back. |
| [02:12:05] | Twiggy2cents: | Hmm... bob ross freaking rocks! |
| [02:12:22] | Twiggy2cents: | He can make the most un artistic painter feel like they could paint anything |
| [02:12:23] | lapion: | painting by numbers ? |
| [02:12:45] | Twiggy2cents: | He just scribbles and before you know it, it is a perfect picture |
| [02:13:46] | lapion: | well he forgets to mention that scribbles do art not make |
| [02:14:12] | Twiggy2cents: | His do, at least they do moreso than mine do. |
| [02:15:04] | lapion: | he makes people desperate. |
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| [02:15:19] | lapion: | even suicidal. |
| [02:15:37] | Twiggy2cents: | Granted he makes pretty much the same thing every time. |
| [02:17:06] | lapion: | "It's so easy how come I cannot do it?" can really drive people to frustration. |
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| [02:18:34] | lapion: | but oth he relaxes people to such an extend they eventually do not care whether they fail or not |
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| [02:46:31] | Azelphur: | Does anyone have a clever way of remotely managing files inside a bunch of mythtv video folders? whatever type of remote filesystem I use, when I move a file it downloads the file onto my machine, then uploads it again. :( |
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| [02:54:48] | [R]: | ssh |
| [02:57:43] | Azelphur: | [R]: that's how I've been doing it, but it's a common thing I'm doing so would prefer something graphical in the file browser |
| [02:58:32] | [R]: | gtraphical |
| [02:58:34] | ** [R] rofls ** | |
| [02:59:03] | Azelphur: | [R]: when your working with a small set of directories, dragging and droping files is faster than typing out the full source and destination in ssh, much faster :P |
| [02:59:36] | Azelphur: | a file browser is always gonna be better than ssh at being a file browser. |
| [02:59:58] | [R]: | mc |
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| [03:27:19] | sphery: | Sharky112065: yes, you'll need different video sources for HDHR and Ceton because they tune the channels very differently |
| [03:27:53] | sphery: | Sharky112065: and to switch tuners, either use MENU or map a key to NEXTCARD in Utilities/Setup|Edit Keys |
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| [03:51:26] | Sharky112065: | sphery: Wew! I just got done. My dedline for all of this was tonight by 9 pm.. it is 10 min to 9 pm. Gotta redcord falling skies lol. |
| [03:52:48] | Sharky112065: | sphery: yeah I did set up two sources. Kinda is not so good though, because now 7 of the channels I have listed twice in the program guide. I wanted it to only show those channels once in the guide and always record those 7 channels from the Hdhomeruns first before maybe having to go to the cetons if they were full. |
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| [04:51:08] | Sharky112065: | Well that was a fail :( I told it to record faling skies on channel 662 and its recording The Closer on channel 111. These are both Ceton InfiniTV4 channels. |
| [04:54:41] | Sharky112065: | hmm I just set it to record ncis on channel 672 a ceton channel and it worked ok for that. I hope this is not gonna be unreliable. |
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| [05:23:06] | Sharky112065: | Ok I must be on magic mushrooms or something. I watched what I was recording "Falling Skies" and Was actually watching "The Closer" All the way to about 40 minues. I came back after the recording was done and now it is acutally "Falling Skies" WTH? I did tune to a channel on a different ceton tuner on watch live tv at the start of that recording so maybe myth got confused and when I went |
| [05:23:06] | Sharky112065: | to watch my recording in progress it stayed on the stream I was watching before? |
| [05:23:26] | ** Sharky112065 wishes he really had some magic mushrooms :p ** | |
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| [05:33:15] | Primer: | Hi, I have an odd question that doesn't pertain to mythtv at all but I was hoping perhaps someone here had knowledge on this subject. I have a pc hd-2000 tuner card, but I only want to connect a dedicated camera to it. This camera works fine when plugged into a generic bttv card's composite input |
| [05:33:39] | Primer: | The camera itself has a BNC cable, and connects to the generic bttv via BNC to RCA |
| [05:34:10] | Primer: | Now, I'm curious if anyone knows what it takes to "tune" the signal via such a card's coax input |
| [05:35:01] | Primer: | since the coax input apparently is RF |
| [05:35:19] | [R]: | bnc to rca? |
| [05:35:27] | [R]: | you need a modulator |
| [05:35:28] | [R]: | to tune rf |
| [05:36:59] | Primer: | Glad to know someone here knows :) |
| [05:37:17] | Primer: | My understanding is that the card should be able to do this |
| [05:37:32] | Primer: | I mean, can't such cameras be plugged into TVs directly? |
| [05:37:39] | Primer: | and like, tuned to channel 3 or something? |
| [05:38:17] | Primer: | Right now the camera works with BNC to RCA going into the composite input of the card. Presumably this is how it'd work on a normal TV |
| [05:38:17] | [R]: | well if tahts the case |
| [05:38:22] | [R]: | then you need a card with an analog input |
| [05:38:34] | Primer: | But what if the TV was super old and only had coax in? |
| [05:38:35] | [R]: | well if you plug it in to composite on the tgv |
| [05:38:39] | [R]: | the nits not tunign to channel 3 |
| [05:38:40] | [R]: | make up your mind |
| [05:38:48] | Primer: | I have 2 cards and 2 cameras |
| [05:38:50] | Primer: | that's the problem |
| [05:38:54] | Primer: | the other card only has coax |
| [05:38:58] | Primer: | no composite |
| [05:39:03] | [R]: | then you need a modulator |
| [05:39:26] | Primer: | ok, seems that answers the question then. Thanks, really appreciate your time |
| [05:39:31] | Primer: | And sorry for the off-topic |
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| [06:34:54] | Sharky112065: | God some times im such a tard. I had ceton 0–1 defined twice 0–1, 0–1, 0–2, 0–3; instead of 0–0,0–1,0–2,0–3. :( Well at least it makes me feel better. I was worried that recording was not gonna be reliable and it was me all along. |
| [06:42:56] | Sharky112065: | Nice. Recording 10 shows simultaniously and only using 5–10% CPU and 5% of my memory. |
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| [11:12:42] | dewman: | Hi there. I have made a few cut points within a recorded video, saved the cut points and then I went back to transcode the video but I keep getting unrecoverable error via mythweb. I have pasted the backend log and the mythtranscode log. Currently running .25 fixes of mythbuntu |
| [11:13:04] | dewman: | http://pastebin.com/LYJ5KEna |
| [11:13:07] | dewman: | woops. |
| [11:18:30] | dewman: | Not sure if the above issue could be related to this audio error that I just came across in the mythcommflag log. http://pastebin.com/6sXqbnMX |
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| [11:49:24] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [11:50:13] | PaulWay: | I've upgraded to MythTV 0.25 recently and am getting seven second timeouts ("MythSocket(a3a6f0:14): readStringList: Error, timed out after 7000 ms.") on trying to connect. |
| [11:50:31] | PaulWay: | It then goes through and actually gets the data. I've heard this is an IPv6 misconfiguration problem. Is that true? |
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| [11:57:26] | PaulWay: | I'm also getting "The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty." |
| [11:58:09] | PaulWay: | Have just got an IPv6 ULA address set up in the fd range, timeout still occurs. |
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| [20:48:31] | unixbeardxd: | Got a quick question, replaced my fried mobo with one without spdif headers. Looks like my video card needs the header, what is the best way, without spending a lot? |
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| [20:59:06] | Sharky112065: | Getting these errors in the backend log when I set up 6 recordings on Hdhomeruns and 4 on Ceton's. Then the front end becomes unresponsive and if you exit out of the front end and go back in, still un responsive (as in menu works, but freezes for a while when you go into look to see what recordings you have, and then it displays blank information). 2nd set of programs never recorded 4 |
| [20:59:06] | Sharky112065: | hours later. Had to hard kill mythbackend with kill -9. After restart of backend it started recording the programs it was scheduled to record. |
| [20:59:08] | Sharky112065: | 2012-07–02 05:57:10.764927 E [15066/18354] HDHRStreamHandler mpeg/atscstreamdata.cpp:479 (HandleTables) – ATSCStreamData::HandleTables(): Unknown table 0xb3 |
| [20:59:20] | Sharky112065: | Getting thousands and thousands of those |
| [21:00:14] | Sharky112065: | System resource usage is minimal during the recordings |
| [21:00:43] | Sharky112065: | I have 8 cores and 32GB of ram and a hw raid 6 araay. |
| [21:01:29] | Sharky112065: | ringbuffer is set to max on backend setup and setup for 8 jobs |
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| [21:38:06] | ViperSBT: | My InfiniTV card requires that I start an application as root in order to control the Tuner Adapter... I've been opening CLI and doing this manually, is there a better way in Fedora to autostart a program as root on boot? |
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| [21:56:25] | sid3windr: | hm, mythdroid doesn't do 0.25? :/ pity |
| [21:58:24] | sid3windr: | oh, it's being developed at least, I can see in svn :) |
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