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| [00:27:47] | Sharky112065: | Got a segmentation fault on mythtv-setup first inital run. Can some one help? http://pastebin.com/RKjaPGNw |
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| [00:29:16] | wagnerrp: | can you get a backtrace? |
| [00:30:54] | Sharky112065: | How do I do that? |
| [00:31:24] | gkk: | hello |
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| [00:34:17] | gkk: | I have run into a config issue with a 12.04 mythbuntu install. I had a working 2-tuner system with 10.04 that I just upgraded. Had some channel issues after the upgrade so went ahead and did a clean delete and re-add of the tuners and input connections in backend-setup. Both of my channel scans ran successfully, at least according to what it said, but only one tuner shows/records video and only one sourceid shows up in the channel info scr |
| [00:34:17] | gkk: | of myth web. |
| [00:34:49] | gkk: | Any suggestions on what to look for would be a great help. |
| [00:38:30] | Sharky112065: | +wagnerrp: if you mean do what is at this url http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging then I may have to wait until tomorrow. that will be a lot of work uninstalling cleaning rebuilding and reinstalling..... |
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| [00:46:26] | wagnerrp: | the only difference is that 'strip' is called on the executables prior to installation |
| [00:46:58] | Sharky112065: | +wagnerrp: I re launched the setup and it seems to be running. |
| [00:47:47] | Sharky112065: | Although it has filled up my entire screen and I can no longer look at the web page on that box that I was following for the setup |
| [00:48:28] | wagnerrp: | see --geometry and --windowed |
| [00:48:37] | wagnerrp: | and --mouse-cursor |
| [00:50:22] | Sharky112065: | OK thanks I did not know there were options for that. next time I run it, I will do that. I just switched over to this computer and am looking at the guide now. |
| [00:51:16] | wagnerrp: | those settings are configurable in the frontend |
| [00:51:31] | wagnerrp: | whatever you tell the frontend to do for that host, mythtv-setup will follow |
| [00:52:11] | Sharky112065: | oh nice. |
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| [01:22:54] | Sharky112065: | E: Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt did I not configure something? |
| [01:26:10] | wagnerrp: | that file will have been created when you ran mythtv-setup |
| [01:26:18] | wagnerrp: | or connected to the database from any mythtv application |
| [01:27:41] | Sharky112065: | I ran mythtv-setup but have not gone through all the options yet. I get that error every time I run and exit mythtv-setup |
| [01:29:08] | wagnerrp: | the very second thing that happens, when it asks for database information, it writes that file |
| [01:29:13] | wagnerrp: | (the first being language selection) |
| [01:29:53] | Sharky112065: | It asked me language. but remember it crashed soon after that |
| [01:31:23] | wagnerrp: | well mythtv-setup will not run at all if it has no access to the database |
| [01:31:37] | wagnerrp: | if you get to the main menu, it is connected to one somewhere |
| [01:32:50] | Sharky112065: | Should I not have done the mysql -u root -pmypassword < mc.sql prior to running mythtv-setup? |
| [01:33:08] | Sharky112065: | is that leftover old .024 instructions? |
| [01:33:54] | wagnerrp: | nope, still need to do that |
| [01:34:04] | wagnerrp: | that just sets up the shell of a database, and some basic properties |
| [01:34:17] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup then creates the tables it needs when you run it |
| [01:34:55] | wagnerrp: | the idea is that mythtv-setup then doesnt need mysql root privileges to actually create the initial database itself |
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| [01:35:35] | Sharky112065: | Should I delete the database recreate it and then rerun mythtv-setup again? |
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| [01:36:25] | wagnerrp: | what program complained with that error? |
| [01:39:09] | Sharky112065: | When I exit mythtv-setup it is on the screen. every time |
| [01:40:44] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup should be storing that to ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [01:40:54] | wagnerrp: | is it possible it does not have write access to its own home directory? |
| [01:41:10] | Sharky112065: | leme check |
| [01:41:21] | wagnerrp: | is it possible mythtv-setup is a wrapper script, that points $HOME somewhere else? |
| [01:43:09] | Sharky112065: | should I be running this as the mythtv user or can I be running it as myself aka mike. Have been running it as mike but there is a .mythtv and I have permissions to write and it is owned by me and in the users group |
| [01:43:32] | wagnerrp: | ideally, you run mythtv-setup as the user that is going to run mythbackend |
| [01:44:05] | wagnerrp: | there are a handful of permissions checks that only properly work if the user and environment is the same as mythbackend would run in |
| [01:45:02] | wagnerrp: | plus it means those handful of files stored in the user home directory are where they are expected |
| [01:45:29] | Sharky112065: | well wont eventually the backend be getting run at startup thus by root? |
| [01:45:45] | wagnerrp: | one would surely hope not |
| [01:45:59] | wagnerrp: | the only things that should ever be run as root are administrative tasks by an interactive user |
| [01:48:42] | Sharky112065: | How does one start it up on boot up then? |
| [01:48:46] | Sharky112065: | the backend |
| [01:49:53] | wagnerrp: | through init scripts |
| [01:49:59] | wagnerrp: | like any other service |
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| [01:55:02] | Sharky112065: | ah I see. found the example init.d script at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debian_init.d_mythbackend |
| [01:55:31] | Sharky112065: | the user would be mythtv. so I will delete the database, recreate it, then run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user. |
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| [02:02:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: hehe, and with all the expected comments from the /.'ers |
| [02:02:41] | sphery: | though I loved this particular one: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=293 . . . cid=40414149 |
| [02:02:55] | sphery: | (as that's my description of an Atom, too :) |
| [02:04:29] | wagnerrp: | rich0 is one of the gentoo developers, you should recognize jedidiah |
| [02:04:34] | wagnerrp: | the number guy... no idea |
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| [02:05:13] | wagnerrp: | speaking of which, havent seen him around recently |
| [02:05:20] | wagnerrp: | !seen jedidiah |
| [02:05:20] | MythLogBot: | jedidiah was last seen 350 days 9 hours 23 minutes 34 seconds ago |
| [02:05:24] | wagnerrp: | !seen jedi_ |
| [02:05:24] | MythLogBot: | jedi_ has not been seen here |
| [02:05:26] | wagnerrp: | !seen jedi__ |
| [02:05:26] | MythLogBot: | jedi__ was last seen 1248 days 3 hours 4 minutes 4 seconds ago |
| [02:05:34] | wagnerrp: | !seen JEDIDIAH |
| [02:05:34] | MythLogBot: | JEDIDIAH was last seen 350 days 9 hours 23 minutes 48 seconds ago |
| [02:05:49] | wagnerrp: | i think he used some other variation at some point |
| [02:15:37] | wagnerrp: | !seen jedidiah_ |
| [02:15:38] | MythLogBot: | jedidiah_ was last seen 1306 days 1 hour 6 minutes 50 seconds ago |
| [02:18:41] | Sharky112065: | Well that is not gonna work for me. cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| [02:25:13] | Sharky112065: | does the sql user for mythtv have to be mythtv or the user name of the user running mythtv-setup and mythbackend? |
| [02:25:55] | wagnerrp: | system and mysql user accounts are completely independent |
| [02:26:08] | Sharky112065: | ok thanks |
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| [02:36:54] | Sharky112065: | guess ill have to do the debug thing on this afer all. got the segmentation fault again |
| [02:39:46] | Sharky112065: | the segmentation fault was at a differnt area on the text output this time |
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| [13:42:59] | frankster: | I have a pci dvb tuner, and a usb tuner. both will tune channels when connected on their own no problem, but if I connect them both via a splitter the pci card stops being able to tune. any thoughts? |
| [13:49:13] | sphery: | frankster: too much signal loss from splitting? |
| [13:49:41] | sphery: | frankster: if you have 2 devices use a 2-way splitter (or if you have to use a 3-way or more, make sure you terminate unused ends with coax terminators) |
| [13:50:21] | sphery: | frankster: or, if you are using 2-way splitter, might need a signal amplifier (ideally close to the antenna--when S/N ratio is highest) |
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| [13:56:59] | frankster: | sphery: this is kind of what i suspected. the only thing is that both devices are by kworld, and the chipset is af9015 and af9135, so I woudl vaguely expect them to be roughyl as receptive to signal as each otehr |
| [13:57:19] | frankster: | though it is the lower numbered chipset that has the problems, so maybe its been improved in the higher numbered chipset |
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| [14:08:14] | sphery: | frankster: also, might be more interference inside the case with/closer to the other electronics |
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| [15:33:22] | tgm4883: | Is there a way to run mythfilldatabase to a file rather than importing it into the database? |
| [15:33:42] | tgm4883: | I'm trying to figure out why when I run mythfilldatabase, it is adding a channel that isn't in my SD lineup |
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| [15:54:12] | rich0: | Anybody here familiar with ION and willing to shed some light on a video artifacts problem? It occurs on one distro, but not on another – same build of mythtv (that is, same sources). |
| [15:56:19] | rich0: | I'm not sure which libraries are most likely to be involved in actually getting the video displayed. The problem occurs with almost any combination of playback settings. |
| [15:59:51] | rich0: | Some of the artifacts aren't visible at all on minimyth vs the same package on Gentoo. Others are definitely there, but only briefly and show up as translucent areas vs huge areas of pink blocks and such. It seems like the video itself contains flaws (OTA HD), but the rendering on minimyth handles them more gracefully. |
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| [16:17:01] | Defense|Twin: | Hi, I try to connect my mythtv box with my android tablet... With the right player it works nice to browse an play content from mythtv on the tablet. The App MediaHouse also displays that mythtv can be used as a dlna-renderer, but sadly mediahouse doesn't work at all with mythtv. So has anyone experiences using mythtv as an dlna renderer, knows a good app for connecting mythtv with android or any helpful hint? |
| [16:18:33] | Defense|Twin: | rich0: do you use vdpau? whats about the graphics driver? both times nvidia driver? same driver version? |
| [16:18:54] | rich0: | Yes, using vdpau, both are using nvidia, but different versions. |
| [16:19:30] | rich0: | Minimyth is using 270.41.19, and Gentoo is using 295.59 |
| [16:19:43] | rich0: | However, I've been having this issue for a while across a number of nvidia versions on Gentoo. |
| [16:21:33] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean it doesnt work at all? |
| [16:21:39] | wagnerrp: | it cant even pick up mythtv? |
| [16:22:53] | Defense|Twin: | wagnerrp: it cant browser the library, so the app finds the mythtvbox but it can't browser through the "files" |
| [16:23:32] | Defense|Twin: | rich0: same result without vdpau? |
| [16:23:45] | rich0: | I don't think I've been able to get it to not use vdpau... |
| [16:24:32] | rich0: | On that board CPU rendering should be obvious, but video playback seems smooth with most of the settings I've tried, so I suspect that some library is just sending eveyrthing to vdpau anyway. |
| [16:25:52] | rich0: | I posted a write-up and more details at: http://rich0gentoo.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/m . . . rustrations/ |
| [16:27:56] | Defense|Twin: | rich0: my experience is that mythtv uses vdpau only if you selected it in the playback profile |
| [16:29:07] | rich0: | And if not, where does it actually send the video? And where does that send it...? I imagine there is a chain of libraries from mythtv to the display, so the issue may be in one of those, or one of those might be passing it back to vdpau... |
| [16:29:22] | wagnerrp: | yes, VDPAU is not used by default |
| [16:29:26] | wagnerrp: | the frontend must be told to use it |
| [16:30:28] | Defense|Twin: | rich0: I would try to find out if this is vdpau related or not |
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| [16:31:16] | rich0: | Ok, I just realized I have to run. But, I'll explore that. Worst case I can completely strip all vdpau support from the system (likely compiler-flag controlled)... |
| [16:31:30] | Defense|Twin: | rich0: since you are using different driver versions there is a possibility that vdpau causes these problems |
| [16:32:02] | wagnerrp: | im using 295 on my gentoo systems, and VDPAU is working fine |
| [16:32:12] | wagnerrp: | although these are AMD with discrete graphics |
| [16:32:50] | Defense|Twin: | wagnerrp: AMD + vdpau?!? |
| [16:33:08] | wagnerrp: | AMD cpu, discrete nvidia gpu |
| [16:33:20] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to intel atom and integrated gpu |
| [16:33:31] | Defense|Twin: | hm k |
| [16:36:55] | Defense|Twin: | wagnerrp: btw. the mediahouse app also finds the mythtv renderer but it cant use it to play videos |
| [16:37:49] | wagnerrp: | the mediarenderer in the frontend really doesnt do anything but advertise itself |
| [16:38:01] | wagnerrp: | upnp push support was never written |
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| [16:40:51] | Defense|Twin: | wagnerrp: hm thats sad :-/ but good to know, then I don't need to bother the mediahouse dev to fix the mythtv compatibility ;-) |
| [16:41:06] | Sharky112065: | Anyone else get seg faults when running mythtv-setup for the first time, right after seleting Language setting? Trying ot find out if someone has the answer before I compile debug version and submit a ticket. |
| [16:41:18] | Defense|Twin: | btw. it you be very cool if mythtv would support such a upnp push function |
| [16:41:43] | Defense|Twin: | especially for playing music |
| [16:52:10] | tgm4883: | Would the airplay functionlity suffice? |
| [16:52:23] | tgm4883: | I thought that was in 0.25 |
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| [17:00:41] | Seeker`: | argh, managed to delete all of my freesat channels. Gonna take me hours to weed out all the rubbish again |
| [17:02:34] | wagnerrp: | only for apple devices |
| [17:02:41] | wagnerrp: | tgm4883: ^^^ |
| [17:02:52] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, ah |
| [17:03:34] | tgm4883: | wagnerrp, do you know if there is a way to mythfilldatabase to a file rather than into the DB? |
| [17:03:44] | tgm4883: | There doesn't appear to be a documented way |
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| [17:04:14] | wagnerrp: | i think ive done it before, but i dont recall how |
| [17:04:18] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [17:04:22] | ** wagnerrp pokes xris ** | |
| [17:04:59] | tgm4883: | I'm trying to work out if my issue is a mythtv issue or an SD issue |
| [17:05:01] | wagnerrp: | at some point, he showed me how to get a datadirect file |
| [17:05:11] | wagnerrp: | but i dont remember if MFD pulled it, or i just downloaded it directly |
| [17:05:21] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [17:05:32] | tgm4883: | I plan on getting the file and seeing if this XMLID exists in there |
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| [17:26:04] | sid3windr: | just upgraded to 0.25 |
| [17:26:13] | sid3windr: | setup and stuff has become super user friendly |
| [17:26:18] | sid3windr: | excellent work guys :) |
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| [17:41:56] | Sharky112065: | if you are not upgrading but installing new it segfaults. wish I were upgrading and not new to mythtv |
| [17:42:42] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, not sure that entirely makes sense |
| [17:43:03] | tgm4883: | it's easy enough for someone to test though |
| [17:44:48] | Sharky112065: | I found another ref on google where someone had the same problem. Im compiling a debug version now. Will hvae to go through the whole ticket thing before I can get up and running... |
| [17:45:05] | Sharky112065: | happens right after you select your language and hit next |
| [17:45:09] | Sharky112065: | every time |
| [17:46:00] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, do the logs say anything? |
| [17:52:52] | Sharky112065: | tgm4883: not really |
| [17:53:50] | Sharky112065: | tgm4883: the last time I ran mythtv-setup I put in the option to use a log file but it did not do it. ther is a line in messages that shows the segfault |
| [17:54:11] | tgm4883: | Sharky112065, what distro? |
| [17:54:19] | Sharky112065: | debian squeeze |
| [17:54:19] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: you around? |
| [17:54:48] | Sharky112065: | just compiled for debug. going to install it so I can get a backtrace |
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| [18:10:21] | sphery: | tgm4883: tv_grab_na_dd --dd-data /path/to/file pulls raw data (not XMLTV format) into the specified file |
| [18:10:47] | sphery: | tgm4883: alternatively, you can try and hope to catch the data in the /tmp/mythtv_dd_data or whatever dir |
| [18:10:53] | tgm4883: | sphery, and with that I can grep for an XMLID? |
| [18:11:13] | sphery: | at the top of the DD file will be a list of channels and their identifiers (which are the xmltvids) |
| [18:11:35] | tgm4883: | sphery, ok I'll run that |
| [18:11:48] | sphery: | you can see which channels are represented in the data by just reading through the <channel> elements (think that's what they're called) |
| [18:13:32] | tgm4883: | sphery, does the data contain any timezone info? |
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| [18:13:52] | sphery: | not sure how times are represented |
| [18:13:55] | tgm4883: | nm that wouldn't make sense either |
| [18:14:05] | tgm4883: | since it's pulling this random other XMLID |
| [18:19:07] | Sharky112065: | Having trouble generating the backtrace http://pastebin.com/Wj185tAC |
| [18:21:09] | Sharky112065: | lol nvm |
| [18:21:26] | Sharky112065: | I used vi to crate the file instead of just pasting the file to terminal |
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| [18:23:32] | tgm4883: | sphery, thanks for the info. It's definitely pulling both XMLIDs for the same channel number, so it looks like I'm opening a SD ticket |
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| [18:28:40] | Sharky112065: | Ok, I have a backtrace for the segfault now... http://pastebin.com/Wj185tAC |
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| [18:31:42] | wagnerrp: | so its problems with CEC |
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| [18:31:57] | wagnerrp: | Sharky112065: do you actually have one of these pulse-eight adapters? |
| [18:32:15] | Sharky112065: | no, ill configure without it and see if it fixes it.. thanks |
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| [18:32:46] | wagnerrp: | if youve got a recent copy of their libraries installed, it may be worth reporting the traceback to pulse-eight |
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| [18:33:45] | Sharky112065: | the scrren shows that it disables it because it is not used then segfaults much later on after lang selection |
| [18:34:04] | Sharky112065: | so I would never have thought it to be that |
| [18:34:27] | wagnerrp: | it could be we're feeding it bad information at some point, i dont know |
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| [18:37:05] | Sharky112065: | I have --logpath /var/log and its not creating any myth log files |
| [18:37:38] | wagnerrp: | does your user account have write access to that folder? |
| [18:37:55] | Sharky112065: | hmmm. maybe not. ill check |
| [18:38:33] | Sharky112065: | yep permission denied |
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| [18:54:48] | Sharky112065: | Weird.. lastnight it was taking 5 minutes to compile mythtv now with debugging on it is taking only like 30 seconds. I did do a make distclean first. |
| [18:56:23] | wagnerrp: | you can if you want, but its probably not necessary |
| [18:56:50] | wagnerrp: | the makefiles should know when they need to flush out old compiled objects |
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| [19:03:31] | Sharky112065: | yay no seg fault |
| [19:04:15] | Sharky112065: | no, I was just wondering why it took 5 minutes each time to compile last night and today every time is under 30 seconds to compile mythtv. only difference is now using debug on configure |
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| [19:12:42] | Sharky112065: | hmm. with debug taken out of configure its taking much longer to compile |
| [19:13:24] | Sharky112065: | I dont really care, just wondering why that would be so much of a drastic difference |
| [19:14:19] | wagnerrp: | it shouldnt matter one way or another |
| [19:14:54] | wagnerrp: | the only difference should be a 'strip' call on each binary, to remove all the debugging symbols |
| [19:15:05] | wagnerrp: | it may have something to do with optimizations |
| [19:15:09] | Sharky112065: | libcec-dev is version 1.6.2–1 in case you wanted to know. |
| [19:15:16] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if a debug build forces lighter optimizations |
| [19:15:34] | Sharky112065: | ah optimizations.. that explains it |
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| [19:25:21] | Sharky112065: | Is it normal for it to give a message about sql and storage group on first initial run of mythtv-setup? |
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| [19:42:56] | wagnerrp: | a popup? or something in the logs? |
| [19:43:20] | BonaC: | Hello |
| [19:43:21] | Sharky112065: | probably in log, but on the text screen used to launch mythtv-setup |
| [19:43:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah, terminal logs |
| [19:43:46] | wagnerrp: | if nothing else appears to be wrong, dont worry about the logs |
| [19:48:32] | BonaC: | Hmm.. Is there already some kind of solution to this kind of problem: I thought I could put MythTV onto my server computer with a USB TV card. I run my server headless so is there already any HTTP-based plugin that I could just open up a browser and then watch TV through it? |
| [19:49:05] | wagnerrp: | you can use the new HLS code in 0.25 |
| [19:49:38] | wagnerrp: | but it is designed for portable devices, and low quality/resolution, and uses a lot of CPU power on the backend, and requires a web browser with HLS support |
| [19:49:52] | BonaC: | Hmm |
| [19:50:01] | Sharky112065: | +wagnerrp: thanks for all your help. |
| [19:51:08] | BonaC: | I'm not that deep in MythTV, at least not yet |
| [19:51:14] | BonaC: | But that could work? |
| [19:51:19] | wagnerrp: | BonaC: why a web browser rather than 'mythfrontend' |
| [19:51:36] | BonaC: | ... |
| [19:51:40] | wagnerrp: | also, you can watch pre-recorded content through the asx streams in mythweb |
| [19:51:44] | wagnerrp: | but no live tv |
| [19:51:45] | BonaC: | Complete blackout |
| [19:51:54] | BonaC: | I'd like to watch it live |
| [19:52:00] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what that means |
| [19:52:26] | BonaC: | Watch TV live without it being pre-recorded |
| [19:52:48] | wagnerrp: | "complete blackout" |
| [19:53:06] | BonaC: | Brainfreeze, I had to gather up my thoughts |
| [19:54:09] | BonaC: | Hmm |
| [19:54:39] | BonaC: | Could I be able to have MythTV live rerouted to a stream? |
| [19:55:00] | BonaC: | I should test that would my stick even work with Linux |
| [19:55:35] | wagnerrp: | mythtv records everything it touches |
| [19:55:47] | wagnerrp: | livetv in mythtv is just a recording, with playback lagging a couple seconds behind |
| [19:55:58] | BonaC: | Hmm |
| [19:56:10] | wagnerrp: | you could stream that recorded file through some other application |
| [19:56:26] | wagnerrp: | you could stream it through mythweb |
| [19:56:55] | BonaC: | I'm having a shitstorm of ideas and most of them are bad |
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| [19:57:13] | wagnerrp: | there is just no existing web application designed to link up the controls necessary to start and stop those recordings on demand to make livetv operate over a web browser |
| [19:57:43] | BonaC: | So... |
| [19:57:54] | BonaC: | Can I run a bash version |
| [19:57:59] | wagnerrp: | bash version? |
| [19:58:08] | BonaC: | Linux's bash |
| [19:58:10] | BonaC: | The command line |
| [19:58:30] | wagnerrp: | no, there is no analog to mythtv written in bash |
| [19:58:35] | BonaC: | Hmm |
| [19:59:02] | wagnerrp: | and anyone trying to write a schedulable DVR and video player using bash, or any other batch scripting language, would be batsh-- insane |
| [19:59:20] | BonaC: | So I would have to figure out a way to A) Put the live video to a website, if MythWeb isn't doing it B) Figure out how to control it |
| [19:59:23] | wagnerrp: | are you actually asking if there is any sort of terminal-based control of mythtv? |
| [19:59:34] | BonaC: | Well.. |
| [20:00:08] | wagnerrp: | bash is just a shell which operates within the terminal and provides a command line interface |
| [20:00:32] | BonaC: | I run my server headless, I know what bash is |
| [20:00:38] | wagnerrp: | command line interfaces and terminal access do not require bash |
| [20:01:08] | wagnerrp: | but when you ask for a "bash version", i dont think you really do understand what it is |
| [20:01:35] | BonaC: | Damn it |
| [20:03:27] | BonaC: | Bah |
| [20:05:00] | BonaC: | So if there is no existing web interface which can link up the controls |
| [20:05:08] | wagnerrp: | you could write a terminal application that would allow command line control of a livetv session, but i do not believe there is anything already written |
| [20:05:09] | BonaC: | Are the controls how hard to link |
| [20:05:37] | wagnerrp: | the livetv chain is not a simple thing to interface with |
| [20:05:48] | wagnerrp: | since its really a low level interface through the internal backend protocol |
| [20:05:59] | wagnerrp: | not designed to be "easy", since it was never really intended for 3rd party use |
| [20:06:28] | BonaC: | Sounds really complicated |
| [20:07:24] | BonaC: | I quess if there's no even semi-easy way to link the controls to a bash script, I'm pretty much done for. |
| [20:08:01] | wagnerrp: | bash, no... because you need to interface with the TCP socket |
| [20:08:26] | wagnerrp: | perl, python, or php would be easier, as there are bindings available to interface with that TCP socket |
| [20:08:40] | wagnerrp: | but there is nothing built in those official bindings for controlling a livetv session |
| [20:09:53] | BonaC: | So |
| [20:10:27] | BonaC: | Are the interface commands insanely hard? |
| [20:10:58] | wagnerrp: | never really looked into them much |
| [20:11:08] | wagnerrp: | (hence why i never wrote them into the python bindings) |
| [20:11:10] | BonaC: | So there's 80/20 chance they are |
| [20:12:41] | wagnerrp: | chances are someone is eventually going to write such a thing for the new HLS interface |
| [20:12:54] | wagnerrp: | but in the near future, its not going to be simple to get livetv from mythtv sent out over http |
| [20:13:52] | BonaC: | Ok |
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| [20:20:55] | BonaC: | So |
| [20:21:32] | BonaC: | The most important thing is now clear: MSI Mega Sky 580 should work, since it is told to be supported. |
| [20:25:47] | BonaC: | So |
| [20:26:13] | BonaC: | Now I have to start MythTV without the local GUI |
| [20:26:43] | BonaC: | If it is possible that is |
| [20:27:08] | wagnerrp: | im not sure what you mean |
| [20:27:33] | BonaC: | I don't have a screen connected to the server computer – I can't see it |
| [20:27:52] | wagnerrp: | recording does not require a monitor or have a GUI |
| [20:27:59] | BonaC: | So |
| [20:28:15] | BonaC: | Hmm |
| [20:29:42] | BonaC: | Derp |
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| [20:36:10] | Sharky112065: | anyone know what the git pull command would be to just have it show if there are any changes and not actually do the pull? |
| [20:37:10] | wagnerrp: | git fetch will do the pull, but not actually apply it to your checkout |
| [20:37:29] | Sharky112065: | Ok thanks |
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| [20:41:19] | Sharky112065: | hmm dont think that is what I wanted. If I run it a second time it does nothing. |
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| [20:42:19] | wagnerrp: | because it has already pulled the necessary data |
| [20:42:38] | Sharky112065: | I want a way from the commandline to be able to periodically check to see if there were updates. without actually pulling anything |
| [20:42:59] | wagnerrp: | you could poll the github api |
| [20:46:01] | wagnerrp: | i have a script that generates new gentoo ebuilds that operates in specifically that manner |
| [20:48:54] | Sharky112065: | I think "git status" might be what I wanted. Won't be able to try it untill the next change |
| [20:49:52] | wagnerrp: | nearly all the functions in git are only going to be designed to operate on the local repository |
| [20:50:03] | wagnerrp: | meaning they wont tell you anything until you pull the remote changes to look at |
| [20:50:38] | Sharky112065: | Well that is problemationc in that supposidly im supposed to make uninstall before pulling new changes |
| [20:51:00] | Sharky112065: | that word was supposed to be problematic |
| [20:52:44] | wagnerrp: | are you trying to perform automatic rebuilds and updates? |
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| [20:53:59] | Sharky112065: | no, I just want to check ever now and then to see if there were changes so I can manually do an update/rebuild |
| [20:56:08] | wagnerrp: | write down what changeset you are currently at, git pull |
| [20:56:11] | wagnerrp: | if there are updates |
| [20:56:32] | wagnerrp: | git checkout <changeset>, make uninstall, git checkout master, make, make install |
| [20:56:59] | wagnerrp: | the only time you really need to uninstall first is when there are changes in library names, or additions/deletions |
| [20:57:03] | wagnerrp: | which rarely happen |
| [21:01:06] | Sharky112065: | how do I have it apply the changes that were from the fetch I did earlier? |
| [21:03:02] | wagnerrp: | checkout |
| [21:03:10] | Sharky112065: | ty |
| [21:03:51] | Sharky112065: | It did not do anything. so i guess there were no chnages |
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| [21:15:28] | pakosto: | Good night |
| [21:16:35] | pakosto: | I have a question, is there any way to watch livetv without delay? Recomended for sports events or something... |
| [21:16:45] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [21:16:58] | wagnerrp: | is that 2–3 second delay really that problematic? |
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| [21:17:15] | pakosto: | Yes |
| [21:17:25] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [21:17:52] | pakosto: | If you are watching a match and ghe people claim goooooool |
| [21:18:11] | pakosto: | And you have to wait 4 seconds to see the gol |
| [21:18:16] | pakosto: | Jajajajanananna |
| [21:18:23] | wagnerrp: | then the people talking on the TV are synchronized to the actions on the TV |
| [21:18:32] | wagnerrp: | audio and video are delayed equally |
| [21:18:35] | wagnerrp: | i fail to see the problem |
| [21:19:00] | pakosto: | The delay with mythtv |
| [21:19:16] | pakosto: | Kaffeine seems to hqve no delay |
| [21:19:39] | wagnerrp: | kaffeine displays directly, while mythtv records and then plays the recording |
| [21:20:21] | pakosto: | Hez |
| [21:20:31] | pakosto: | But... |
| [21:20:49] | pakosto: | There is no way to do the same with mytht |
| [21:21:22] | [R]: | myth is a dvr, not a playback program |
| [21:21:28] | pakosto: | No problem |
| [21:21:48] | wagnerrp: | thats correct, mythtv records everything, and due to the split between the frontend and backend, reducing that delay to smaller than what it currently is is no simple task |
| [21:21:48] | pakosto: | I konw |
| [21:21:55] | wagnerrp: | but i still fail to see why this is a problem |
| [21:22:15] | wagnerrp: | why does it matter if youre watching the game a few seconds behind the broadcast? |
| [21:22:21] | wagnerrp: | its not like the broadcast is in real time either |
| [21:22:31] | wagnerrp: | its going to be delayed several seconds from the action on the field |
| [21:22:36] | pakosto: | Apologize about my english |
| [21:22:36] | Sharky112065: | Still getting "Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt" in the log file for mythtv-setup ==> http://pastebin.com/rVThuZJ6 happens every time I start mythtv-setup |
| [21:23:15] | wagnerrp: | the delay is really only a nuisance if you're changing channels |
| [21:23:30] | wagnerrp: | since it means it takes a couple seconds extra to spool up, beyond the requirements of the hardware |
| [21:24:30] | pakosto: | no its a problem |
| [21:24:44] | pakosto: | I like mythtv for a long time |
| [21:24:50] | wagnerrp: | and i dont understand why its a problem |
| [21:24:51] | pakosto: | But thid time |
| [21:25:41] | pakosto: | This evening,i have used to mount on a cofee to watch the match spain-frsnce |
| [21:26:34] | wagnerrp: | i mean the only indication that there is any offset at all should be the couple second difference between current and end when the UI is visible |
| [21:26:49] | pakosto: | The only needed for perfect progrsm is to switch beetwen livetv and delayed tv or pvr |
| [21:26:52] | wagnerrp: | if the UI is hidden, you should be completely unaware |
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| [21:28:41] | wagnerrp: | you said you could hear the announcers claiming "goal" several seconds before you actually saw the goal in the video |
| [21:28:48] | wagnerrp: | there are only two ways that could have happened |
| [21:29:26] | wagnerrp: | either 1) the announcers actually announced the goal several seconds ahead in the broadcast, meaning kaffeine, mplayer, physical tvs, and everything else would experience the same delay |
| [21:30:03] | wagnerrp: | or 2) you have an analog capture card misconfigured, so you are hearing the passthrough audio directly as it occurs, but the video is being offset by mythtv's recording delay |
| [21:30:26] | wagnerrp: | and were this a remote backend, you would not hear the audio at all, because you were not recording it |
| [21:30:49] | wagnerrp: | similarly, if you hit 'pause', the audio would continue in the background |
| [21:32:00] | wagnerrp: | i keep pressing why you think this is a problem, because i think you are suffering that latter possibility |
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| [21:35:25] | wagnerrp: | bah... he quit |
| [21:38:10] | ertyu_: | I've seen some sports broadcasts where the audio and video got seriously out of sync |
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| [21:41:27] | Sharky112065: | I don't get why mythtv-setup is not creating mysql.txt in ~home/.mythtv? it creates the .mythtv directory and puts files there so it has permission to write to it. |
| [21:42:17] | Sharky112065: | ~/.mythtv rather |
| [21:49:34] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv are you running? |
| [21:49:53] | wagnerrp: | its making you enter the database credentials every time you run it? |
| [21:50:28] | Sharky112065: | 0.25 fixes. guess if it works just ignore the message? |
| [21:50:44] | Sharky112065: | no, im not having to enter datbase credentials every time. |
| [21:50:45] | wagnerrp: | can you pastebin the logs that you think are a problem? |
| [21:50:51] | Sharky112065: | I did |
| [21:51:00] | Sharky112065: | ill scroll up and repaste sec |
| [21:51:30] | Sharky112065: | [14:22] <Sharky112065> Still getting "Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt" in the log file for mythtv-setup ==> http://pastebin.com/rVThuZJ6 happens every time I start mythtv-setup |
| [21:52:14] | wagnerrp: | but there is no mysql.txt being written to /home/mike/.mythtv/mysql.txt? |
| [21:52:20] | wagnerrp: | is there a /home/mike/.mythtv/config.xml? |
| [21:52:57] | Sharky112065: | yes |
| [21:52:58] | wagnerrp: | i mean its clearly connecting to the database on its own somehow |
| [21:53:29] | Sharky112065: | there is a config.xml |
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| [21:54:10] | Sharky112065: | Maybe it is just a bug that it outputs that given that it is using the xml format instead of the txt file |
| [21:54:41] | Sharky112065: | I really dont mind now that I understand but for new users it is really confusing |
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| [22:20:23] | wagnerrp: | in 0.26, the old txt file is removed completely, and that whole chunk of code has been rewritten |
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| [22:29:41] | bmanahan: | Hey all. I read at – http://www.mentby.com/Group/mythtv-users/myth . . . -issues.html that I may need to "change the storage engine" ?? My mythfilldatabase command is hanging at a particular point. Sorry for the novel. ~Brian |
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| [22:30:57] | tgm4883: | bmanahan, are you using Mythbuntu 12.04? |
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| [22:33:15] | JoshTriplett: | We just ran into a strange bug. A program scheduled to record occurred on a channel LiveTV was already watching, and the program ended up not recording at all. The log suggests some database errors regarding duplicate entries, suggesting that the recorded program couldn't supercede the LiveTV recording. |
| [22:33:23] | JoshTriplett: | MythTV 0.25.1 |
| [22:33:48] | JoshTriplett: | I haven't found any mentions of this issue in trac; does this sound like a known issue or new issue? |
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| [22:39:19] | ** JoshTriplett will copy/paste the logs. ** | |
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| [22:48:51] | JoshTriplett: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10852 |
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| [23:12:52] | Sharky112065: | wow im finding literally nothing for configuring hdhomerun dual on mythtv 0.25. and nothing to show how to get acurate mappings to scheldules direct... |
| [23:13:05] | Sharky112065: | google is not being my friend today |
| [23:13:26] | wagnerrp: | add a card, select hdhomerun from the dropdown, let mythtv autodetect it |
| [23:14:04] | wagnerrp: | map it to a video source, scan, hope your channel name scan into the same as that in your SD lineup so they can be matched automatically |
| [23:14:19] | wagnerrp: | anything that isnt, you have to supply the XMLTVID for it manually before you get guide data |
| [23:14:24] | Sharky112065: | I managed to do that ok, and scanned for channels. |
| [23:15:01] | Sharky112065: | yeah that is the part im stuck on. |
| [23:15:34] | wagnerrp: | matching those that did not happen automatically? |
| [23:15:45] | Sharky112065: | in windows it was easy. just use hdhomeruns software to look at the channel onscreen and if it was the correct channel I could put the channel in. but I have no way to view the feed from linux |
| [23:15:52] | Sharky112065: | yes |
| [23:16:30] | wagnerrp: | start mythbackend, start mythfrontend, start watching livetv |
| [23:16:44] | Sharky112065: | ultimatly I will not be using these later. I have two ceton cards which should be much easier. but I want to test a bit on these before I yank the cards out of my windows box |
| [23:16:50] | wagnerrp: | if the channel editor built into mythfrontend is currently functional, you can set the xmltvids there |
| [23:17:03] | wagnerrp: | if not, there is one in mythweb, and one in mythtv-setup |
| [23:17:11] | Sharky112065: | ah ok.. I havent started backend or frontend yet.. |
| [23:17:26] | wagnerrp: | look up the xmltvid on the schedules direct website by mousing over channels in your lineup |
| [23:17:45] | Sharky112065: | ok ill play with it |
| [23:18:07] | Sharky112065: | oh.. one more question |
| [23:18:34] | Sharky112065: | I set up a group for all the hdhomeruns. if I scan for channels on one will it be good for all or do I need to scan on all of the tuners? |
| [23:19:27] | wagnerrp: | if they are all connected to the same antenna, you can use the same video source for all tuners |
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| [23:19:48] | Sharky112065: | its cable. |
| [23:20:01] | wagnerrp: | same thing |
| [23:20:10] | Sharky112065: | ok sounds good |
| [23:20:10] | wagnerrp: | the video source is just a list of channels |
| [23:20:22] | wagnerrp: | and any tuner attached to a video source must be able to tune each channel in that video source |
| [23:20:51] | Sharky112065: | thats what I was thinking. so when I put my cetons in I would specify a different video source name? |
| [23:21:06] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [23:21:11] | Sharky112065: | gotcha.. thanks |
| [23:21:19] | wagnerrp: | one for the cablecard tuners, one for the clearqam tuners |
| [23:21:32] | Sharky112065: | awesome. |
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| [23:29:17] | Sharky112065: | do I leave the channel number as it is ex 11_1 or swap it out for the guide channel number 111? |
| [23:30:32] | Sharky112065: | Or would 111 go on XMLTV ID |
| [23:30:46] | wagnerrp: | whatever you prefer |
| [23:30:55] | wagnerrp: | all you need to pull guide data is that XMLTV ID |
| [23:31:15] | Sharky112065: | AH ok.. that must be where to put it then |
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